Guest guest Posted September 8, 2005 Report Share Posted September 8, 2005 When a person receives their Baptism of the Holy Spirit, also known as their Self-Realization, their Spirit becomes connected to the Divine, through the power of the Holy Spirit. This connection of your Spirit with the Divine then flows to your soul, energy centres and body. If there is a problem in your `soul' or character, it will also affect your energy centres (chakras) and your body. That is why introspection and meditation and prayer and communion with the Holy Spirit, also called the 'Shakti within' is very important in Sahaja Yoga. I am not saying that there is absolutely no place for chakra cleansing at all. Shri Mataji has given all the knowledge, but She always stressed the Spirit above everything else. What has happened is that yogis have become so obsessed over their energy centres to the point of developing fears about `catches' etc. This is how Sahaja Yoga then becomes a `cult' of the subtle system. Because of this obsession with energy cleansing in the organization of Sahaja Yoga, on this website we are stressing that people should put their attention on their Spirit and allow their relationship to the Holy Spirit to work things out. There are people such as myself who have needed the extra help of some energy centre cleansing to help the flow of the kundalini, but this does not mean that we have to insist on persons having to perform these rituals, such as is happening in the organization of Sahaja Yoga, where everyone must religiously follow these rituals. Chuck is an example of a person from the Christian background who has had his Baptism of the Holy Spirit and feels this connection within and wants nothing to do with, nor has any desire to perform Hindu-like rituals. The Truth is that it is the Holy Spirit or Kundalini that acts on the energy centres and not the other way around. So we have to be wise as this knowledge of Sahaja Yoga is not Hindu, as Jagbir has stated some time previously. It also is not Jewish, Christian or Islamic but on the other hand, includes all of them. From the information below, it can be seen that it is your Spirit that needs to be given the precedence, because it is your Spirit that acts upon the soul, energy centres and body and that is the order of hierarchy that Shri Mataji has revealed in Her Words, below. Therefore, it is the connection and relationship with our Spirit to the Divine that is the most influential in our spiritual growth. This is what Shri Mataji says on the subject: - " Jivatma is the soul. Means with these five elements. And these five elements give you your own identity, your own character, your own particularities etc. These five elements; the way they are placed in you. That's the causal element, the causal of the elements that are within you. Then these causals act on the chakras and through the chakras these causals act on the other ...on the grosser side. So from the subtle to the subtler to the ...you can say the subtlest. The subtlest we can say is the Spirit, supposing. Then the subtler is the soul. And the subtle you have the chakras. And the gross is the body. " (Volterra, Italy. July 25, 1986) Below in simple format is the information gleaned from Shri Mataji's Words: - The Spirit…. (also called " Atma " ) The Spirit is subtler than the soul, energy centres or body. The Spirit acts upon the Soul, which acts upon the energy centres, which act upon the body. The Spirit is eternal and not created. The Soul…. (also called " Jivatma " ) The Soul is subtler than the energy centres or body. The Soul acts upon the energy centres, which in turn act upon the body. The soul is created from the 5 elements of water, earth, air, fire and ether and is made up of the various combinations and permutations of these 5 elements. It is these combinations and permutations that give us our own identities, characters, particularities, etc. It is also the way that these 5 elements are placed in us that is the `causal element' that acts on our energy centres. ( " Causal " means the " cause, which causes " ) The Energy Centres (chakras)…. The energy centres are more subtle than the body. The energy centres act upon the body. The Body…. The body is not subtle at all but is called " gross " (meaning " most dense " ). Here are some more enlightened Words of Shri Mataji, where She states that the only way that you can find the Truth, is to surrender to the Divine. She states that rituals don't give you the Truth. She also talks about how people have become lost in all kinds of so-called religions and rituals in their quest for the Truth. Even Sahaja Yogis have to be careful that they do not become lost in all kinds of rituals: - " Today, I bow to all the Sahaja Yogis who have found the Truth. There has been, from ages, the seeking for the Truth. And when people discovered that there is no other way but to surrender to the Divine so that you can find the truth, they did not know how to do it, how to work it out. There have been seekers all over the world… Such darkness existed around people who were seeking. All over the world I found, when I was a little girl, that they were completely ignorant about how to find the truth; so many were lost in all kinds of so-called religions and rituals. All kinds of rituals they used to do, morning till evening, some sort of a ritual they would do. Whether they were Hindus, Christians, Muslims, they all believed that by doing all these rituals you will achieve something, that you will know the Truth, that you will get your Self Realisation. All such seekers went to wrong people and to wrong directions because they were really seeking from their heart. So they were very misled into such horrible black areas that they did not know what they were seeking, what they are supposed to seek, what they have to have. " (06. 05. 2001 - Cabella Ligure, Italia) There is no other way but to surrender to the Divine, so that you can find the Truth. Violet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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