Guest guest Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Dear Jagbir, When I came to this web site I knew nothing about Sajha Yoga. That was in July of this year. I read Shri matij Devi and what she had to say. I read of the new age children. I had questions which Violet has so kindly answered. Never once did I read where I had to use any other types of outside influences to get realization. Everything I read kept pointing to within, within, within. That is where I went. When Shri Matij Devi showed me how to get realization she said, You are your own master, I am! You are a spirit, I am! You are not guilty, No I am not!, and you forgive everyone, I do. Now ask your Mother for your realization and if you so desire it you will have it. I did! This is not complicated. But it starts with the spirit. I am a spirit. That is where everything starts. That was my eperience. I hope this helps, Yhank You Jagbir, Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2005 Report Share Posted September 14, 2005 Dear Chuck, Thank you for sharing your experience here with us. As you say, everything begins with the Spirit within. I don't know if you have yet read the following especially beautiful poem by Shri Mataji, so I'll post it here. Love, Semira To My Flower Children You are angry with life Like small children Whose Mother is lost in Darkness. Your sulk expressing despair, At the fruitless end of your journey You wear Ugliness to discover Beauty, You name everything false in the name of Truth, You drain out emotions to fill the cup of Love My sweet children, my darlings, How can you get peace by waging war With yourself, with your being, with joy itself? Enough are your efforts of renunciation - The artificial mask of consolation. Now rest in the petals of the lotus flower In the lap of your gracious Mother. I will adorn your life with beautiful blossoms And fill your moments with joyful fragrance. I will annoint your head with Divine Love For I cannot bear your torture anymore. Let me engulf you in the ocean of joy, So you lose your being in the Greater one Who is smiling in your calyx of self, Secretly hidden to tease you all the while. Be aware and you will find Him Vibrating your every fibre with blissful joy Covering the whole Universe with light! Mother Nirmala , " chuck87_1957 " <chuckhennigan@s...> wrote: > Dear Jagbir, > > When I came to this web site I knew nothing about Sajha Yoga. That was > in July of this year. I read Shri matij Devi and what she had to say. I > read of the new age children. I had questions which Violet has so > kindly answered. Never once did I read where I had to use any other > types of outside influences to get realization. Everything I read kept > pointing to within, within, within. That is where I went. When Shri > Matij Devi showed me how to get realization she said, You are your own > master, I am! You are a spirit, I am! You are not guilty, No I am not!, > and you forgive everyone, I do. Now ask your Mother for your > realization and if you so desire it you will have it. I did! > This is not complicated. But it starts with the spirit. I am a spirit. > That is where everything starts. That was my eperience. > I hope this helps, > > Yhank You Jagbir, > > Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2005 Report Share Posted September 14, 2005 Dear Semira, Thank you for sharing that poem. It is very comforting to read. Thank you again Semira, Chuck , " semirafields " <semirafields> wrote: > Dear Chuck, > Thank you for sharing your experience here with us. As you say, > everything begins with the Spirit within. > I don't know if you have yet read the following especially beautiful > poem by Shri Mataji, so I'll post it here. > Love, Semira > > To My Flower Children > > You are angry with life > Like small children > Whose Mother is lost in Darkness. > Your sulk expressing despair, > At the fruitless end of your journey > You wear Ugliness to discover Beauty, > You name everything false in the name of Truth, > You drain out emotions to fill the cup of Love > My sweet children, my darlings, > How can you get peace by waging war > With yourself, with your being, with joy itself? > Enough are your efforts of renunciation - > The artificial mask of consolation. > Now rest in the petals of the lotus flower > In the lap of your gracious Mother. > I will adorn your life with beautiful blossoms > And fill your moments with joyful fragrance. > I will annoint your head with Divine Love > For I cannot bear your torture anymore. > Let me engulf you in the ocean of joy, > So you lose your being in the Greater one > Who is smiling in your calyx of self, > Secretly hidden to tease you all the while. > Be aware and you will find Him > Vibrating your every fibre with blissful joy > Covering the whole Universe with light! > > Mother Nirmala > > > , " chuck87_1957 " > <chuckhennigan@s...> wrote: > > Dear Jagbir, > > > > When I came to this web site I knew nothing about Sajha Yoga. That > was > > in July of this year. I read Shri matij Devi and what she had to > say. I > > read of the new age children. I had questions which Violet has so > > kindly answered. Never once did I read where I had to use any > other > > types of outside influences to get realization. Everything I read > kept > > pointing to within, within, within. That is where I went. When > Shri > > Matij Devi showed me how to get realization she said, You are your > own > > master, I am! You are a spirit, I am! You are not guilty, No I am > not!, > > and you forgive everyone, I do. Now ask your Mother for your > > realization and if you so desire it you will have it. I did! > > This is not complicated. But it starts with the spirit. I am a > spirit. > > That is where everything starts. That was my eperience. > > I hope this helps, > > > > Yhank You Jagbir, > > > > Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2005 Report Share Posted September 14, 2005 , " chuck87_1957 " <chuckhennigan@s...> wrote: > Dear Jagbir, > > When I came to this web site I knew nothing about Sajha Yoga. That > was in July of this year. I read Shri matij Devi and what she had > to say. I read of the new age children. I had questions which > Violet has so kindly answered. Never once did I read where I had > to use any other types of outside influences to get realization. > Everything I read kept pointing to within, within, within. That is > where I went. When Shri Matij Devi showed me how to get > realization she said, You are your own master, I am! You are a > spirit, I am! You are not guilty, No I am not!, and you forgive > everyone, I do. Now ask your Mother for your realization and if > you so desire it you will have it. I did! This is not complicated. > But it starts with the spirit. I am a spirit. That is where > everything starts. That was my eperience. > Dear Chuck, i believe people like you and Semira have a head start over many SYs who have spent years in Sahaja Yoga. Those who believe in the Divine Message and then start meditating on the Adi Shakti (Holy Spirit) have a number of distinct advantages. Among those that matter most are: i) they will have joined because of the truth presented upfront that the Last Judgment and Resurrection has begun. They will join because of the faith, hope and joy in God Almighty's Divine Plan for humanity, not to cure cirrhosis or relieve a stress. The Cool Breeze will be a constant and self-evidence reminder that they are being resurrected in mind, body and soul, just as the holy scriptures promised. All the Believers taking part will constantly remember the Divine and conscientiously strive to lead dharmic lives. ii) they will become their own masters from the start and bypass years of trying to learn about/cleanse chakras on the endless advise from 'senior' SYs. Being constantly subject to the guilt of having a 'sick' and 'unclean' subtle system induces many new seekers to think they need the enlightenment and guidance of other SYs. Right away their 'ignorance' and lack of knowledge makes them dependant on others. It will take them a long time (if at all) to realize that such knowledge was in fact petty and largely unnecessary. iii) they will begin meditating on the Adi Shakti within right away instead of external images of Shri Mataji. Most management- controlled SYs cannot meditate without Her photograph and any suggestion to meditate internally without any image whatsoever is rejected. This external fixation will be severely tested when She leaves. Those who have begun to meditate on Her within will not experience the mourning most SYs will undergo when Shri Mataji decides to leave. iv) they will be able to spread Sahaja Yoga far more successfully than was done in the past. The overriding reason for this optimism is that these people, unlike past SYs, will state the truth of the Divine Message upfront, a message that any Jew, Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Sikh or anyone else can identify and feel comfortable with. The untold damage caused by the official suppression of the Divine Message and Shri Mataji's identity will never be quantified. Only those new seekers who will openly uphold the plain truth will overcome this shocking resistance to God Almighty's plan for all His children. As Shri Mataji predicted, those outside the organization will complete Her Work if SYs do not. We have begun to witness just that. Jai Shri Mataji, jagbir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 , " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org> wrote: > > The Cool Breeze will be a constant and self-evidence reminder that > they are being resurrected in mind, body and soul, just as the > holy scriptures promised. All the Believers taking part will > constantly remember the Divine and conscientiously strive to lead > dharmic lives. > DRUGS " If you take cannabis you are definitely dragged into Ida nadi and the ego recedes for the time being. … All drugs take you away from your awareness. My experience about the druggist and chemist has been a painful one. Those who come were very slow. … They have been very weak and vulnerable to left-sided attacks. … I am sorry for the druggist. They have to use their will to accept the challenge and give up their slavery to drugs. " Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi (Letter to Jeremy, 1982, printed in Nirmala Yoga no.12) " Now, drugs hit you on the left-Nabhi – left-Nabhi, or on the right. The ones that hit you on the left-Nabhi can take you very deep, down. And you can be sometimes so aggressive, despite the fact that you have taken a left-sided one. It is surprising. Just, you see, suddenly you get stunned. … That person can become mad – anything can happen to a person who takes drugs. " Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi Pune, 1/12/87 Alcohol " All the saints in the world have said that alcohol is very dangerous for life. The reason is that it goes against our awareness, this is a fact, you know that after taking a drink our awareness becomes blurred or excited, it is not normal, that's the reason they said no. " Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi 2nd Sydney Talk 27/3/81 " Alcohol, as you know, has different variations depending on the habits of the person. … alcohol is very dangerous because it finishes-off your liver; it finishes off your awareness; it makes you very clumsy; your attention is fuzzy. … Because alcohol makes a person in such a way. That he loses all his dharma. " Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi Pune, India, 1/12/87) " I think the greatest enemy of our Self Realisation is the drinking. Drinking, if people take to drinking, they become such slaves; their brains are not alright. So I think at Sahasrara (they) must be also spoilt with drinking. So drinking I think is the worst enemy. " Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi Sahasrara Puja 2001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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