Guest guest Posted September 18, 2005 Report Share Posted September 18, 2005 Dear Sakis, That was was a really well tought out message but the significant think is that it was also fair. Jagbir and Violet have their own view of SY and noone can accuse them of that since it's everyone's right to express their views. Apart from that though, they choose to critisize the rest of us who don't follow their way, not completely anyway. Their dislike towards rituals led to exaggeration about techniques in general either taught by Shri Mataji or not. She doesn't want us to talk ill of fellow Sahaja Yogis or not. From the talks of Hers tha I've read I gather that She dislikes gossiping and any kind of critisism. That's the reason I stoped replying to the " Talk-About-Sahaja-Yoga' group whose members so kindly call me troll. And tha's the reason I don't post my thoughts here too. But Since you did, I felt like reinforce you. I feel that Violet and Jagbir's views are essentially correct. We should rely more on our spirit rather that techniques. But begginers can't do that and they need techniques. Techniques as taught by Shri Mataji, that is to say not turnig them into rituals. She said we need our hands, we need to footsoak, we need to shoebeat and those deserving it, to do pujas. In short Violet and Jagbir express correct views, but in a wrong way, a way Shri Mataji doesn't approve of. Unless they think that when She said that we should not critisize She was refering to one person alone and not to all of us, as they do for some techniques. Love, Michalis PS: I too really want to read that book! I've only ganced it once and it was great , " Sakis " <mprgrandmaster@h...> wrote: > Jai Shri Mataji! > Deasr borthers and sisters, > I have read a good amount of what is being post here these days and I have felt an urgent feeling to say my opionion and set my quetions.Please,do not be offended even if what I say seems to be so out of my lack of skills. > > I have experienced the fact that when you talk to someone about Sahaja Yoga without telling them the truth about Shri Mataji they :a) cannot understand the meaning of some parts of Sahaja Yoga practise.So, I have given Self-Reaslisation to a couple of people or so. In the beggining I didn't tell them the Truth about the Mother,I did so in a month or so after they strted weel on the practise and as work permitted.Before telling them,they couldn't fully accept/understand the use of Her photograph. > > b)They cannot easily undesrand the meaning and importance of Sahaja Yoga and Self-Realisation.They didn't understand that the Awakening of Kundalini is such a precious gift, that was extremely rare in the past.They couldn';t fully accept/understand that this is about Union witht the Divine and the fulfilment of Revelation.After revealing the Truth about the Mother to them, they improved greatly. > > But, I still think telling the Truth from the very first Sahaja yoga presentation is too much, Today, many are creating sects,claim to be gods and deceive people. If someone heard that that Woman from India with a big red dot claims to be the Incarnation of the Supreme,what would they think? What should they believe just by hearing,without experiencing? Of course,I do not mean they should try Sahaja Yoga for years before revealing the Truth, but I think a month,less or more accordin to the person, should be left so thet the newcomer experiences the power of the Gift they have been given. > > So, in my opinion, not strict rules should be given. She Herself has rarely given strict rules to Her Children. I think we shouldn't be that harsh and accuse anyone who doesn;t say from the very first time that Shri Mataji is Adi Shakti. Even if they should, accusing them either directly or behind the, doesn;t not bring any benefits. > > Love, > Sakis > > P.S. I have started studying the Meta Modern Era. It is a wondeful book and I fully advice all our brothers and sisters to buy it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2005 Report Share Posted September 18, 2005 Ok, some terrible mistakes I did, so there we go again: Dear Sakis, That was a really well tought out message but the significant think is that it was also fair. Jagbir and Violet have their own view of SY and noone can accuse them of that since it's everyone's right to express their views. Apart from that though, they choose to critisize the rest of us who don't follow their way, not completely anyway. Their dislike towards rituals led to exaggeration about techniques in general either taught by Shri Mataji or not. She doesn't want us to talk ill of fellow Sahaja Yogis. From the talks of Hers that I've read I gather that She dislikes gossiping and any kind of critisism in general. That's the reason I stoped replying to the " Talk-About-Sahaja-Yoga' group whose members so kindly call me troll. And that's the reason I don't post my thoughts here too. But since you did, I felt like reinforcing you. I feel that Violet and Jagbir's views are essentially correct. We should rely more on our spirit rather than techniques. But begginers can't do that and they need techniques. Techniques as taught by Shri Mataji, that is to say not turning them into rituals. She said we need our hands, we need to footsoak, we need to shoebeat and those deserving it, to do pujas. In short, Violet and Jagbir express correct views but in a wrong way, a way Shri Mataji doesn't approve of. Unless they think that when She said that we should not critisize She was refering to one person alone and not to all of us, as they do for some techniques. Love, Michalis PS: I too really want to read that book! I've only glanced it once and it was great > > , " Sakis " > <mprgrandmaster@h...> wrote: > > Jai Shri Mataji! > > Deasr borthers and sisters, > > I have read a good amount of what is being post here these days > and I have felt an urgent feeling to say my opionion and set my > quetions.Please,do not be offended even if what I say seems to be so > out of my lack of skills. > > > > I have experienced the fact that when you talk to someone about > Sahaja Yoga without telling them the truth about Shri Mataji they :a) > cannot understand the meaning of some parts of Sahaja Yoga > practise.So, I have given Self-Reaslisation to a couple of people or > so. In the beggining I didn't tell them the Truth about the Mother,I > did so in a month or so after they strted weel on the practise and > as work permitted.Before telling them,they couldn't fully > accept/understand the use of Her photograph. > > > > b)They cannot easily undesrand the meaning and importance of > Sahaja Yoga and Self-Realisation.They didn't understand that the > Awakening of Kundalini is such a precious gift, that was extremely > rare in the past.They couldn';t fully accept/understand that this is > about Union witht the Divine and the fulfilment of Revelation.After > revealing the Truth about the Mother to them, they improved greatly. > > > > But, I still think telling the Truth from the very first Sahaja > yoga presentation is too much, Today, many are creating sects,claim > to be gods and deceive people. If someone heard that that Woman from > India with a big red dot claims to be the Incarnation of the > Supreme,what would they think? What should they believe just by > hearing,without experiencing? Of course,I do not mean they should > try Sahaja Yoga for years before revealing the Truth, but I think a > month,less or more accordin to the person, should be left so thet > the newcomer experiences the power of the Gift they have been given. > > > > So, in my opinion, not strict rules should be given. She Herself > has rarely given strict rules to Her Children. I think we shouldn't > be that harsh and accuse anyone who doesn;t say from the very first > time that Shri Mataji is Adi Shakti. Even if they should, accusing > them either directly or behind the, doesn;t not bring any benefits. > > > > Love, > > Sakis > > > > P.S. I have started studying the Meta Modern Era. It is a wondeful > book and I fully advice all our brothers and sisters to buy it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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