Self-realization is our Second Birth....

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Sakis " <mprgrandmaster wrote: -

 

" So, in my opinion, not strict rules should be given. She Herself

has rarely given strict rules to Her Children. I think we shouldn't

be that harsh and accuse anyone who doesn;t say from the very first

time that Shri Mataji is Adi Shakti. "

 

Dear Sakis,

 

Our self-realization is known as the Second Birth that Jesus talked about. When

you give people their self-realization, you should tell them that this

experience is exactly the same experience that Jesus referred to as the " Second

Birth " . Then people will know that this experience is in the context of all the

spiritual traditions. It is only from the Hindu tradition generally, that people

know what " kundalini " means. Most people don't understand the word " kundalini "

as they do not know Sanskrit. Therefore, when they get their Self-Realization,

if you call it their Second Birth of the Spirit, which is the same thing as

their " kundalini-awakening " , they will understand better the greatness of this

experience, because it is talked about in all global religions.

 

If you are only comfortable with saying that this is also your

Second Birth as Jesus taught, that is fine. At least you have put

Self-Realization in its proper and right context, so that they then realize the

spiritual importance of it.

 

At the second program, you can be more brave, and actually tell them

that Shri Mataji is the Comforter that has come as Jesus promised.

That should make people very interested indeed.

 

You have to be comfortable with this knowledge yourself, Sakis. When

you feel more comfortable with expressing the universal truth of the Second

Birth or Self-Realization, rather than just expressing it from only the Subtle

System angle, you will see how much easier and effective this is.

 

It is a good idea to listen to some Public Program tapes and use Shri Mataji as

an example of how to present the Truth of the Spirit Within and you cannot go

wrong. She in Public Programs taught that Self-Realization was the same as your

Second Birth that Jesus taught, and She did this from the very first day.

 

However, no one is making rules for you, Sakis, really. You misunderstand. The

idea is that you present Self-Realization in its right context, which is an

extension and expansion of all the spiritual teachers of all time.

 

Kind regards,

 

Violet

[Guest guest]

Dear Violet,

 

When Sakis gave my Self Realisation, he didn't use the exact

word " Second Birth " but he and a fellow Sahaja Yogi did stress the

importane of it and I knew something actually happened there. I

regret the fact that he didn't tell me earlier who Shri Mataji is

because it would have saved a lot of trouble for me but he had his

reasons although I still regret it. Anyway this turned out to help

me because the second time I joined I did it to find the truth and

not to destroy negativity.

 

And people are not particularly happy when they hear who Shri Mataji

is. We were even acused of satanism by a friend who saw the mantra

book and our respect towards mother. Even though that person didn't

really believe it, it is normal that we don't run screaming who Shri

Mataji is isn't it. Not all people are the same though. My mother

didn't have a problem even though she doesn't feel like joining. But

you cannot always predict each person's reaction and do likewise...

 

Michalis

 

, " Violet " <vtubb@b...>

wrote:

> Sakis " <mprgrandmaster@h... wrote: -

>

> " So, in my opinion, not strict rules should be given. She Herself

> has rarely given strict rules to Her Children. I think we

shouldn't

> be that harsh and accuse anyone who doesn;t say from the very

first

> time that Shri Mataji is Adi Shakti. "

>

> Dear Sakis,

>

> Our self-realization is known as the Second Birth that Jesus

talked about. When you give people their self-realization, you

should tell them that this experience is exactly the same experience

that Jesus referred to as the " Second Birth " . Then people will know

that this experience is in the context of all the spiritual

traditions. It is only from the Hindu tradition generally, that

people know what " kundalini " means. Most people don't understand the

word " kundalini " as they do not know Sanskrit. Therefore, when they

get their Self-Realization, if you call it their Second Birth of the

Spirit, which is the same thing as their " kundalini-awakening " , they

will understand better the greatness of this experience, because it

is talked about in all global religions.

>

> If you are only comfortable with saying that this is also your

> Second Birth as Jesus taught, that is fine. At least you have put

> Self-Realization in its proper and right context, so that they

then realize the spiritual importance of it.

>

> At the second program, you can be more brave, and actually tell

them

> that Shri Mataji is the Comforter that has come as Jesus promised.

> That should make people very interested indeed.

>

> You have to be comfortable with this knowledge yourself, Sakis.

When

> you feel more comfortable with expressing the universal truth of

the Second Birth or Self-Realization, rather than just expressing it

from only the Subtle System angle, you will see how much easier and

effective this is.

>

> It is a good idea to listen to some Public Program tapes and use

Shri Mataji as an example of how to present the Truth of the Spirit

Within and you cannot go wrong. She in Public Programs taught that

Self-Realization was the same as your Second Birth that Jesus

taught, and She did this from the very first day.

>

> However, no one is making rules for you, Sakis, really. You

misunderstand. The idea is that you present Self-Realization in its

right context, which is an extension and expansion of all the

spiritual teachers of all time.

>

> Kind regards,

>

> Violet