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, " Matt " <mpc5995>

wrote:

> jagbir,

>

> It is unfortunate that people have turned their children, their

> lives, etc. over to this cult.

>

> When there is organization, there is corruption. This is the Way

> in Maya. It doesn't matter how holy the person who started it,

> look at Christianity and other religions now. They are such

> powerful cults that people don't even realize it becuase they are

> so brainwashed starting at an early age!

>

> It is unfortunate when an organization stands between people and

> the truth. The truth is your birthrigth! Seek out God yourself,

> Shri Mataji has opened the door for many but it is up to each of

> us to deepen this realtionship with God ourselves. No school, no

> organization will do this for us. We must do it ourselves.

> Change the world by changing oneself. The truth is within.

>

> I am sorry that you had the experiences you did and it is good

> that you openly speak about them.

>

> Inner Peace,

>

> Matt

 

 

Matt, i believe your post will not be welcome at 'official' SY

forums as most subtle system SYs believe in and relate to the

external, not internal, Adi Shakti. i wonder if they know that the

internal Adi Shakti is eternally young, unlike Her aging incarnation

Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi. Over the years i have hardly found any

discussion about this truth despite Shri Mataji's claim that She

exists in their Sahasraras. Sometimes i wonder why.

 

Anyway, i was lying in bed just now, still wide awake near midnight,

thinking about an email from a religious person who had complained

that Shri Mataji should not claim Herself to be the Adi Shakti. i

corrected him by explaining that Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi is the

_incarnation_ of the Shakti who had to come in a physical form

carrying God Almighty's (Brahman) Divine Message to humanity. Since

he did not mind worshipping idols but not a human being i explained

it would be better he meditated on Brahman/Shakti within. i also

sent him the post:

 

Nirguna Brahman is not unique to Judaism or Islam but Hinduism too

/message/4582

 

What i realized more clearly is that in future people will react to

worshipping/meditating on Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi because of Her

human form. However, since it is the absolute truth that She is

indeed the incarnation of the Shakti within, that is the way it must

be presented from now onwards:

 

" Seek out God yourself, Shri Mataji has opened the door for many but

it is up to each of us to deepen this realtionship with God

ourselves. No school, no organization will do this for us. We must

do it ourselves. Change the world by changing oneself. The truth is

within. "

 

If we follow what you too believe then it will be impossible for any

leader/organization to come between us. And once seekers are assured

and convinced that it is the Adi Shakti within, not Her incarnation

Shri Mataji without, that is the Source of bodily resurrection and

spiritual immortality many will respond favorable to the Divine

Message in future. If God (Light) and His Spirit (Shakti) is within

then their aversion to worshipping a physical being is removed. All

religions and scriptures have this collective unifying truth though

sometimes it needs clarification, especially in Islam. But for the

first time in history Shri Mataji has released this truth upon human

consciousness. All we need is to gather the scriptural evidence and

present it to all. People will be able to seek the Divine within

themeselves, bypassing the unnecessary rituals and pitfalls that

many have experienced in this organization. This realization has

been getting stronger and clearer lately.

 

When i look back at the sudden 'sickness' and silence Shri Mataji

has displayed since last year it is slowly removing all forms of

external worship, steadily strenghtening my faith and attention on

Her Inner Sanctuary. But that is where She had been all the while

.................. long before Her physical incarnation awakened and

made us deeply conscious of the Divine within:

 

TO MY FLOWER CHILDREN

 

You are angry with life

Like small children

Whose Mother is lost in Darkness

Your sulk expressing despair

At the fruitless end of your journey

You wear Ugliness to discover Beauty

You name everything false in the name of Truth

You drain out emotions to fill the cup of Love

My sweet children, my darlings

How can you get peace by waging war

With yourself, with your being, with joy itself?

Enough are your efforts of renunciation

The artificial mask of consolation

Now rest in the petals of the lotus flower

In the lap of your gracious Mother

I will adorn your life with beautiful blossoms

And fill your moments with joyful fragrance

I will annoint your head with Divine Love

For I cannot bear your torture anymore

Let me engulf you in the ocean of joy

So you lose your being in the Greater one

Who is smiling in your calyx of Self

Secretly hidden to tease you all the while

Be aware and you will find Him

Vibrating your every fibre with blissful joy

Covering the whole Universe with light.

 

YOUR MOTHER NIRMALA

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> How can it possible without Sahaja Yoga collectivite

people see, develop themselves? On internet and this

" Adi Shakti " groups ? Or in their home ?

 

> there can be corruption, lies,whatever may be can

occur even in Sahaja Yoga Collectivity but All these

are part of maya, game ...We just see ourselves, our

problems in this collectivite and just can correct

ourselves,and just help ourselves and each other in

Sahaja Yoga Collectivite... We can not know Who help

to us or who we help in this collectivite..Cause it is

very strange thing one day you can find yourself help

one of Sahaja Yogi who you never quess and one day you

are been helped a Sahaja Yogi who really never quess

...As long as Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi not say on the

contarary Vishwa Nirmala Dharma Organization and

cancel this organization we must accept this

organization as our collectivite..

>Leaders, World Councul all off them are story, game..

They can exit today can leave tomorrow... But this

organization under our Mother's attention and we just

must look ourselves, our development... We must trust

our mother and i believe mother do whatever necessery

.... We are not above Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi. For

example May be the world leader can be the worst

people in the world but although this even i say ,

" This is mother choice and there must be a wisdom in

this choice.. and just watch it... How can we know

much from her... Otherwise we must accept All these

are nonsense...

JSM

><

 

-- jagbir singh <adishakti_org wrote:

 

> , " Matt "

> <mpc5995>

> wrote:

> > jagbir,

> >

> > It is unfortunate that people have turned their

> children, their

> > lives, etc. over to this cult.

> >

> > When there is organization, there is corruption.

> This is the Way

> > in Maya. It doesn't matter how holy the person

> who started it,

> > look at Christianity and other religions now.

> They are such

> > powerful cults that people don't even realize it

> becuase they are

> > so brainwashed starting at an early age!

> >

> > It is unfortunate when an organization stands

> between people and

> > the truth. The truth is your birthrigth! Seek out

> God yourself,

> > Shri Mataji has opened the door for many but it is

> up to each of

> > us to deepen this realtionship with God ourselves.

> No school, no

> > organization will do this for us. We must do it

> ourselves.

> > Change the world by changing oneself. The truth

> is within.

> >

> > I am sorry that you had the experiences you did

> and it is good

> > that you openly speak about them.

> >

> > Inner Peace,

> >

> > Matt

>

>

> Matt, i believe your post will not be welcome at

> 'official' SY

> forums as most subtle system SYs believe in and

> relate to the

> external, not internal, Adi Shakti. i wonder if they

> know that the

> internal Adi Shakti is eternally young, unlike Her

> aging incarnation

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi. Over the years i have

> hardly found any

> discussion about this truth despite Shri Mataji's

> claim that She

> exists in their Sahasraras. Sometimes i wonder why.

>

> Anyway, i was lying in bed just now, still wide

> awake near midnight,

> thinking about an email from a religious person who

> had complained

> that Shri Mataji should not claim Herself to be the

> Adi Shakti. i

> corrected him by explaining that Shri Mataji Nirmala

> Devi is the

> _incarnation_ of the Shakti who had to come in a

> physical form

> carrying God Almighty's (Brahman) Divine Message to

> humanity. Since

> he did not mind worshipping idols but not a human

> being i explained

> it would be better he meditated on Brahman/Shakti

> within. i also

> sent him the post:

>

> Nirguna Brahman is not unique to Judaism or Islam

> but Hinduism too

>

/message/4582

>

> What i realized more clearly is that in future

> people will react to

> worshipping/meditating on Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> because of Her

> human form. However, since it is the absolute truth

> that She is

> indeed the incarnation of the Shakti within, that is

> the way it must

> be presented from now onwards:

>

> " Seek out God yourself, Shri Mataji has opened the

> door for many but

> it is up to each of us to deepen this realtionship

> with God

> ourselves. No school, no organization will do this

> for us. We must

> do it ourselves. Change the world by changing

> oneself. The truth is

> within. "

>

> If we follow what you too believe then it will be

> impossible for any

> leader/organization to come between us. And once

> seekers are assured

> and convinced that it is the Adi Shakti within, not

> Her incarnation

> Shri Mataji without, that is the Source of bodily

> resurrection and

> spiritual immortality many will respond favorable to

> the Divine

> Message in future. If God (Light) and His Spirit

> (Shakti) is within

> then their aversion to worshipping a physical being

> is removed. All

> religions and scriptures have this collective

> unifying truth though

> sometimes it needs clarification, especially in

> Islam. But for the

> first time in history Shri Mataji has released this

> truth upon human

> consciousness. All we need is to gather the

> scriptural evidence and

> present it to all. People will be able to seek the

> Divine within

> themeselves, bypassing the unnecessary rituals and

> pitfalls that

> many have experienced in this organization. This

> realization has

> been getting stronger and clearer lately.

>

> When i look back at the sudden 'sickness' and

> silence Shri Mataji

> has displayed since last year it is slowly removing

> all forms of

> external worship, steadily strenghtening my faith

> and attention on

> Her Inner Sanctuary. But that is where She had been

> all the while

> ................. long before Her physical

> incarnation awakened and

> made us deeply conscious of the Divine within:

>

> TO MY FLOWER CHILDREN

>

> You are angry with life

> Like small children

> Whose Mother is lost in Darkness

> Your sulk expressing despair

> At the fruitless end of your journey

> You wear Ugliness to discover Beauty

> You name everything false in the name of Truth

> You drain out emotions to fill the cup of Love

> My sweet children, my darlings

> How can you get peace by waging war

> With yourself, with your being, with joy itself?

> Enough are your efforts of renunciation

> The artificial mask of consolation

> Now rest in the petals of the lotus flower

> In the lap of your gracious Mother

> I will adorn your life with beautiful blossoms

> And fill your moments with joyful fragrance

> I will annoint your head with Divine Love

> For I cannot bear your torture anymore

> Let me engulf you in the ocean of joy

> So you lose your being in the Greater one

> Who is smiling in your calyx of Self

> Secretly hidden to tease you all the while

> Be aware and you will find Him

> Vibrating your every fibre with blissful joy

> Covering the whole Universe with light.

>

> YOUR MOTHER NIRMALA

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005

 

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Dear buket ak,

the arguments you brought here sound exactly as the

arguments of religious leaders that pretend to

represent the will of God and that's why the inocent

people must always obey with their disgusting rules

they created in order to have the control. And it

seems that SY organization it is turning more and more

into

something like the Church. And i do not believe this

is the will of God.

Calin

 

 

 

 

 

--- buket ak <buketak2000 wrote:

 

> > How can it possible without Sahaja Yoga

> collectivite

> people see, develop themselves? On internet and this

> " Adi Shakti " groups ? Or in their home ?

>

> > there can be corruption, lies,whatever may be can

> occur even in Sahaja Yoga Collectivity but All

> these

> are part of maya, game ...We just see ourselves, our

> problems in this collectivite and just can correct

> ourselves,and just help ourselves and each other in

> Sahaja Yoga Collectivite... We can not know Who help

> to us or who we help in this collectivite..Cause it

> is

> very strange thing one day you can find yourself

> help

> one of Sahaja Yogi who you never quess and one day

> you

> are been helped a Sahaja Yogi who really never quess

> ..As long as Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi not say on

> the

> contarary Vishwa Nirmala Dharma Organization and

> cancel this organization we must accept this

> organization as our collectivite..

> >Leaders, World Councul all off them are story,

> game..

> They can exit today can leave tomorrow... But this

> organization under our Mother's attention and we

> just

> must look ourselves, our development... We must

> trust

> our mother and i believe mother do whatever

> necessery

> ... We are not above Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi. For

> example May be the world leader can be the worst

> people in the world but although this even i say ,

> " This is mother choice and there must be a wisdom

> in

> this choice.. and just watch it... How can we know

> much from her... Otherwise we must accept All these

> are nonsense...

> JSM

> ><

>

> -- jagbir singh <adishakti_org wrote:

>

> > ,

> " Matt "

> > <mpc5995>

> > wrote:

> > > jagbir,

> > >

> > > It is unfortunate that people have turned their

> > children, their

> > > lives, etc. over to this cult.

> > >

> > > When there is organization, there is corruption.

>

> > This is the Way

> > > in Maya. It doesn't matter how holy the person

> > who started it,

> > > look at Christianity and other religions now.

> > They are such

> > > powerful cults that people don't even realize it

> > becuase they are

> > > so brainwashed starting at an early age!

> > >

> > > It is unfortunate when an organization stands

> > between people and

> > > the truth. The truth is your birthrigth! Seek

> out

> > God yourself,

> > > Shri Mataji has opened the door for many but it

> is

> > up to each of

> > > us to deepen this realtionship with God

> ourselves.

> > No school, no

> > > organization will do this for us. We must do it

> > ourselves.

> > > Change the world by changing oneself. The truth

> > is within.

> > >

> > > I am sorry that you had the experiences you did

> > and it is good

> > > that you openly speak about them.

> > >

> > > Inner Peace,

> > >

> > > Matt

> >

> >

> > Matt, i believe your post will not be welcome at

> > 'official' SY

> > forums as most subtle system SYs believe in and

> > relate to the

> > external, not internal, Adi Shakti. i wonder if

> they

> > know that the

> > internal Adi Shakti is eternally young, unlike Her

> > aging incarnation

> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi. Over the years i have

> > hardly found any

> > discussion about this truth despite Shri Mataji's

> > claim that She

> > exists in their Sahasraras. Sometimes i wonder

> why.

> >

> > Anyway, i was lying in bed just now, still wide

> > awake near midnight,

> > thinking about an email from a religious person

> who

> > had complained

> > that Shri Mataji should not claim Herself to be

> the

> > Adi Shakti. i

> > corrected him by explaining that Shri Mataji

> Nirmala

> > Devi is the

> > _incarnation_ of the Shakti who had to come in a

> > physical form

> > carrying God Almighty's (Brahman) Divine Message

> to

> > humanity. Since

> > he did not mind worshipping idols but not a human

> > being i explained

> > it would be better he meditated on Brahman/Shakti

> > within. i also

> > sent him the post:

> >

> > Nirguna Brahman is not unique to Judaism or Islam

> > but Hinduism too

> >

>

/message/4582

> >

> > What i realized more clearly is that in future

> > people will react to

> > worshipping/meditating on Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> > because of Her

> > human form. However, since it is the absolute

> truth

> > that She is

> > indeed the incarnation of the Shakti within, that

> is

> > the way it must

> > be presented from now onwards:

> >

> > " Seek out God yourself, Shri Mataji has opened the

> > door for many but

> > it is up to each of us to deepen this realtionship

> > with God

> > ourselves. No school, no organization will do this

> > for us. We must

> > do it ourselves. Change the world by changing

> > oneself. The truth is

> > within. "

> >

> > If we follow what you too believe then it will be

> > impossible for any

> > leader/organization to come between us. And once

> > seekers are assured

> > and convinced that it is the Adi Shakti within,

> not

> > Her incarnation

> > Shri Mataji without, that is the Source of bodily

> > resurrection and

> > spiritual immortality many will respond favorable

> to

> > the Divine

> > Message in future. If God (Light) and His Spirit

> > (Shakti) is within

> > then their aversion to worshipping a physical

> being

> > is removed. All

> > religions and scriptures have this collective

> > unifying truth though

> > sometimes it needs clarification, especially in

> > Islam. But for the

> > first time in history Shri Mataji has released

> this

> > truth upon human

> > consciousness. All we need is to gather the

> > scriptural evidence and

> > present it to all. People will be able to seek the

> > Divine within

> > themeselves, bypassing the unnecessary rituals and

> > pitfalls that

> > many have experienced in this organization. This

> > realization has

> > been getting stronger and clearer lately.

> >

> > When i look back at the sudden 'sickness' and

> > silence Shri Mataji

> > has displayed since last year it is slowly

> removing

> > all forms of

> > external worship, steadily strenghtening my faith

> > and attention on

> > Her Inner Sanctuary. But that is where She had

> been

> > all the while

> > ................. long before Her physical

> > incarnation awakened and

> > made us deeply conscious of the Divine within:

> >

> > TO MY FLOWER CHILDREN

> >

> > You are angry with life

> > Like small children

> > Whose Mother is lost in Darkness

> > Your sulk expressing despair

> > At the fruitless end of your journey

> > You wear Ugliness to discover Beauty

> > You name everything false in the name of Truth

> > You drain out emotions to fill the cup of Love

> > My sweet children, my darlings

> > How can you get peace by waging war

> > With yourself, with your being, with joy itself?

> > Enough are your efforts of renunciation

> > The artificial mask of consolation

> > Now rest in the petals of the lotus flower

> > In the lap of your gracious Mother

> > I will adorn your life with beautiful blossoms

> > And fill your moments with joyful fragrance

> > I will annoint your head with Divine Love

> > For I cannot bear your torture anymore

> > Let me engulf you in the ocean of joy

> > So you lose your being in the Greater one

> > Who is smiling in your calyx of Self

> > Secretly hidden to tease you all the while

> > Be aware and you will find Him

> > Vibrating your every fibre with blissful joy

> > Covering the whole Universe with light.

> >

> > YOUR MOTHER NIRMALA

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

> Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005

>

>

>

>

 

 

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