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, " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org> wrote:

>

> On the premise that Shri Mataji is indeed the Adi Shakti, on what

> basis do the sahaja yogis take it upon themselves to discriminate

> as to whom is delivered the message of her present incarnation and

> by what convoluted process that message is selectively delivered?

> To take upon themselves to make such discriminations is an

> expression of an elitist, missionary culture motivated by power

> and authority over others. The message must be very plain and

> simple if every person on the planet is to be afforded the

> opportunity to draw their own conclusions about the goddess

> incarnate. Why do the sahaja yogis make something so simple so

> complicated?. Why are they doing so poor a job in telling the

> world of Shri Mataji, when as the goddess she will surely stand

> and be recognised as the reality they claim she is?

>

> My parting word is that like it or not, Shri Mataji and her sahaja

> yogis must face the issues presented by those who challenge them.

> Intelligent response is required and what remains to be seen is

> whether they are capable of this. The longer they avoid it, the

> more SY will be clearly identified to be lacking in credibility

> and its members in integrity. The more they will appear to be a

> cultish throw-back to the dark ages. I recommend the sahaja yogis

> today change their whole approach and start promoting SY as what

> it is - a religion focused around a personality who has claimed,

> and is understood by them, to be the Adi Shakti, divine mother of

> the universe. This is, after all, the year of exposure for SY.

>

> May truth prevail.

>

> Alex "

>

 

 

Yes, it is common sense that the message must be very plain and

simple if every person on the planet is to be afforded the

opportunity to draw their own conclusions about the goddess

incarnate. Yes, it is an unfathomable mystery why do the sahaja

yogis make something so simple so complicated?. Yes, it is mind

boggling why are they doing so poor a job in telling the world of

Shri Mataji, when as the goddess she will surely stand and be

recognised as the reality they claim she is?

 

These were questions raised during the last century by those who

could see through the prevailing atmosphere of deception, dishonesty

and incompetence. But today the whole atmosphere is one of despair,

disillusionment and diabolical disregard for dharma as the World

Council has no intention of being transparent. It is when they use

words like " the World Council has the highest powers in sahaja

yoga, presenting the Will of Shri Mataji " that i truly shudder at

their boldness and temerity to state the unthinkable. And when one

listens to ordinary SYs like Alex and understand that it is World

Council that is responsible for the dishonesty, deception and fear

that pervails in all collectives today we are at a loss for words.

What can penetrate the thickness of hide or dullness of mind?

 

But if they had just done what Alex so brilliantly suggested years

ago Sahaja Yoga today would have been far more successful. The

internet is an extremely powerful and versatile medium of mass

communications that is superbly suited to announce the Divine

Message to all corners of the world. All they needed have done was

to draw upon the collective strength of books like " Meta Modern

Era " , " The Advent " , " Bible Enlightened " , " Koran Enlightened " and

Shri Mataji's speeches to form a formidable front to project the

Divine Message upon human consciousness. Thousands of SYs could have

backed it with their experiences of the Cool Breeze, the Sure Sign

of the Last Judgment and Resurrection. And many seekers would have

responded favorable because the truth would have touched their

hearts, mind and soul.

 

i am absolutely convinced that SYs must state the plain and simple

truth " if every person on the planet is to be afforded the

opportunity to draw their own conclusions about the goddess

incarnate. " i believe this from the bottom of my heart because

despite hearing the truth for the very first time i continue to

receive emails like the one that just came in two days ago:

 

" Mr Jagbir; I did glance thru your web page on your

guru. I have to say, there could hardly be anyone with so

clear a vision on their guru as you do. Many are

fanatical but they couldnt back up with evidences from

the scriptures or great souls. But you do so artfully.

 

I really liked the sections on Lalitha Sahasranam.

Such brilliance of interpretation and illustration is

rarely seen in any other homepages or books.

 

There are so many who would easily die for their guru

to show their devotion, but would not go to the

extent like you do in seeing the overall picture ,

finding the truths reflected throughout the millenium

in backing up your visions .

 

And with a heart of gold and pure wishing the best

for all to attain the highest, your unselfish work

will be revarded and attain a height very few works on

their guru have attained.

 

I might not agree to many that you might say, but

then, when you are talking about truth as it is, I am

sure you are not bothered yourself whether anyone

accepts the truth as it is, probably like lord krishna

says in the gita something like " Thy duty is to work

and act and not worry about the result thereof " . "

 

 

This person has just started reading the website and two days is

hardly enought to understand Shri Mataji and Her Divine Message to

humanity. It will take months, probably weeks at least to grasp its

form and visualize it. It will definitely take longer to identify

oneself with the DEVI within.

 

But SYs should not be bothered whether anyone accepts the truth or

not. Our sacred duty is just to state the truth as it is, even if

World Council members refuse to abide by dharma. So please don't

allow them to corrupt your conscience. One day you will realize that

some of them were so dumb, materialistic or tainted by past misdeeds

that their claiming to present the Will of the Shakti is probably

one of the greatest tradegy to befall us SYs. Take care and

understand what they are not doing. Don't let their hype fool you.

 

Jai Shri Mataji,

 

 

jagbir

[Guest guest]

My parting word is that like it or not, Shri Mataji

and her sahaja yogis must face the issues presented by

those who challenge them.

 

WAW jAGBÝR. You are giving an advice Shri Mataji

Nirmala Devi ?

--- jagbir singh <adishakti_org wrote:

 

> ,

> " jagbir singh "

> <adishakti_org> wrote:

> >

> > On the premise that Shri Mataji is indeed the Adi

> Shakti, on what

> > basis do the sahaja yogis take it upon themselves

> to discriminate

> > as to whom is delivered the message of her present

> incarnation and

> > by what convoluted process that message is

> selectively delivered?

> > To take upon themselves to make such

> discriminations is an

> > expression of an elitist, missionary culture

> motivated by power

> > and authority over others. The message must be

> very plain and

> > simple if every person on the planet is to be

> afforded the

> > opportunity to draw their own conclusions about

> the goddess

> > incarnate. Why do the sahaja yogis make something

> so simple so

> > complicated?. Why are they doing so poor a job in

> telling the

> > world of Shri Mataji, when as the goddess she will

> surely stand

> > and be recognised as the reality they claim she

> is?

> >

> > My parting word is that like it or not, Shri

> Mataji and her sahaja

> > yogis must face the issues presented by those who

> challenge them.

> > Intelligent response is required and what remains

> to be seen is

> > whether they are capable of this. The longer they

> avoid it, the

> > more SY will be clearly identified to be lacking

> in credibility

> > and its members in integrity. The more they will

> appear to be a

> > cultish throw-back to the dark ages. I recommend

> the sahaja yogis

> > today change their whole approach and start

> promoting SY as what

> > it is - a religion focused around a personality

> who has claimed,

> > and is understood by them, to be the Adi Shakti,

> divine mother of

> > the universe. This is, after all, the year of

> exposure for SY.

> >

> > May truth prevail.

> >

> > Alex "

> >

>

>

> Yes, it is common sense that the message must be

> very plain and

> simple if every person on the planet is to be

> afforded the

> opportunity to draw their own conclusions about the

> goddess

> incarnate. Yes, it is an unfathomable mystery why do

> the sahaja

> yogis make something so simple so complicated?. Yes,

> it is mind

> boggling why are they doing so poor a job in telling

> the world of

> Shri Mataji, when as the goddess she will surely

> stand and be

> recognised as the reality they claim she is?

>

> These were questions raised during the last century

> by those who

> could see through the prevailing atmosphere of

> deception, dishonesty

> and incompetence. But today the whole atmosphere is

> one of despair,

> disillusionment and diabolical disregard for dharma

> as the World

> Council has no intention of being transparent. It is

> when they use

> words like " the World Council has the highest powers

> in sahaja

> yoga, presenting the Will of Shri Mataji " that i

> truly shudder at

> their boldness and temerity to state the

> unthinkable. And when one

> listens to ordinary SYs like Alex and understand

> that it is World

> Council that is responsible for the dishonesty,

> deception and fear

> that pervails in all collectives today we are at a

> loss for words.

> What can penetrate the thickness of hide or dullness

> of mind?

>

> But if they had just done what Alex so brilliantly

> suggested years

> ago Sahaja Yoga today would have been far more

> successful. The

> internet is an extremely powerful and versatile

> medium of mass

> communications that is superbly suited to announce

> the Divine

> Message to all corners of the world. All they needed

> have done was

> to draw upon the collective strength of books like

> " Meta Modern

> Era " , " The Advent " , " Bible Enlightened " , " Koran

> Enlightened " and

> Shri Mataji's speeches to form a formidable front to

> project the

> Divine Message upon human consciousness. Thousands

> of SYs could have

> backed it with their experiences of the Cool Breeze,

> the Sure Sign

> of the Last Judgment and Resurrection. And many

> seekers would have

> responded favorable because the truth would have

> touched their

> hearts, mind and soul.

>

> i am absolutely convinced that SYs must state the

> plain and simple

> truth " if every person on the planet is to be

> afforded the

> opportunity to draw their own conclusions about the

> goddess

> incarnate. " i believe this from the bottom of my

> heart because

> despite hearing the truth for the very first time i

> continue to

> receive emails like the one that just came in two

> days ago:

>

> " Mr Jagbir; I did glance thru your web page on your

> guru. I have to say, there could hardly be anyone

> with so

> clear a vision on their guru as you do. Many are

> fanatical but they couldnt back up with evidences

> from

> the scriptures or great souls. But you do so

> artfully.

>

> I really liked the sections on Lalitha Sahasranam.

> Such brilliance of interpretation and illustration

> is

> rarely seen in any other homepages or books.

>

> There are so many who would easily die for their

> guru

> to show their devotion, but would not go to the

> extent like you do in seeing the overall picture ,

> finding the truths reflected throughout the

> millenium

> in backing up your visions .

>

> And with a heart of gold and pure wishing the best

> for all to attain the highest, your unselfish work

> will be revarded and attain a height very few works

> on

> their guru have attained.

>

> I might not agree to many that you might say, but

> then, when you are talking about truth as it is, I

> am

> sure you are not bothered yourself whether anyone

> accepts the truth as it is, probably like lord

> krishna

> says in the gita something like " Thy duty is to work

> and act and not worry about the result thereof " . "

>

>

> This person has just started reading the website and

> two days is

> hardly enought to understand Shri Mataji and Her

> Divine Message to

> humanity. It will take months, probably weeks at

> least to grasp its

> form and visualize it. It will definitely take

> longer to identify

> oneself with the DEVI within.

>

> But SYs should not be bothered whether anyone

> accepts the truth or

> not. Our sacred duty is just to state the truth as

> it is, even if

> World Council members refuse to abide by dharma. So

> please don't

> allow them to corrupt your conscience. One day you

> will realize that

> some of them were so dumb, materialistic or tainted

> by past misdeeds

> that their claiming to present the Will of the

> Shakti is probably

> one of the greatest tradegy to befall us SYs. Take

> care

=== message truncated ===

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

, buket ak

<buketak2000> wrote:

>

> My parting word is that like it or not, Shri Mataji

> and her sahaja yogis must face the issues presented by

> those who challenge them.

>

> WAW jAGBÝR. You are giving an advice Shri Mataji

> Nirmala Devi ?

>

 

Buket,

 

i wish you read the post again. This article was critical of the way

Sahaja Yoga is spread. If management SYs do not want to annonce Her

Advent as the Adi Shakti sent to deliver the message of the Last

Judgemnt and Resurrection there is nothing She can do about it. Shri

Mataji has done Her job many times over since opening the Sahasrara

(Kingdom of God) 5 May 1970. Time and again She has said it is the

Last Judgemnt, even in public programs. She has left no stone

unturned in a life-long effort dedicated to the Divine Mission She

was entrusted with.

 

Unlike your interpretation there are no issues facing Her. No one

can challenge Her too.

 

The whole problem of issues and challenges is facing those who try

to present Her at www.sahajayoga.com and all 'official' websites.

That is what Alex is putting the blame of SYs doing a poor job,

wrongly thinking that Shri Mataji has not done much to rectify it.

But She has. But Shri Mataji is not responsible for SYs not

following Her intructions. Can i blame Her if you do not tell the

truth upfront in all honesty and faith?

 

BTW, the sentence " My parting word is that like it or not, Shri

Mataji and her sahaja yogis must face the issues presented by those

who challenge them " was written by Alex. Your putting his words in

my mouth and accusing me of saying them just shows how little you

comprehend the posts. Please read and understand my posts properly,

especially if you want to criticize me.

 

regards,

 

 

jagbir