The Desire for God and the Desire of God....

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Dear All,

 

As you have stated, Chuck, there is a difference between the `lower desires' and

the `higher desires'. The `higher desires' are all in the direction of the

Desire for God.

 

'Desirelessness' has a somewhat deeper meaning than the word itself seems to

indicate. It can be said that when we are 'desireless', then we are also

`surrendered instruments' of the Divine within. This is such a close

relationship that a person ceases making a distinction between 'their' desire

and the Desire of God, (which is the Holy Spirit/Adi Shakti Within). Therefore,

this state can truly be described as a 'desireless' state.

 

Even with one's connection to the Divine, there are still small daily steps to

be taken to achieve this 'desireless State'. These steps involve introspection

and 'witnessing' one's Self and meditating on the Adi Shakti within. These are

the same steps that, once we have our Self-Realization, actually help us to

'establish' that Self-Realization. In other words, we not only start to identify

our Self with our Spirit, but we become the Spirit.

 

On the road to 'becoming the Spirit', a person can sometimes be in the

'desireless' State where they feel and know the One-ness and at other times, to

forget who they really are (which is the Spirit) and slip up by identifying

themselves with their body, mind, or emotions, which results in a feeling of the

loss of that One-ness. Then it could be said, that a person is of 'two minds'

rather than of the One-ness of Mind, Heart, Soul, and Spirit. This loss of

One-ness is a result of a person identifying themselves with the desires of

their body, mind and emotions ('lower desires'). Once a person identifies

themselves with their body, mind and emotions, it is but a small step to give in

to the 'lower desires'.

 

However, as we are steadfast and forge ahead in our meditative, introspective

spiritual life, there will come a time when the 'desireless' State will appear

to stay and this may not even necessarily be noticed by ourselves in a dramatic

way, but only by the peace, joy and satisfaction that we feel.

 

This 'desireless' state is the channel from which comes the manifestation of

God's Love not only to ourselves, but to others. It is a natural outflow of the

Divine within ourselves in the same way that a Mother's love just flows to Her

Children. i will never forget Shri Mataji's love to us all. Here are Her Words

for you: -

 

" During all of Pujas and Public Programmes, I raise my Kundalini and put you in

My Body. So I know everything about you. The relationship between you and me is

so intimate but if you do not meditate, that relationship is not there. I have

nothing to do with you. There

is no connection. You maybe high in Sahaja Yoga…. get a degree from your leader,

but you are nothing to me. I see clearly when you are not meditating.

 

In meditation you grow, nothing else matters! If you are mature in Sahaja Yoga.

You will not want to give up meditation, then I take responsibility for you " .

 

(Australian Sahaja Newsletter – June 18, 1993)

 

i hope this helps.

 

Violet

 

 

, " chuck87_1957 "

<chuckhennigan@s...> wrote:

> Dear All,

>

> I just read Jagbir's post and something stood out. That truth

alone

> wins is as much as gravity or magnetism. If I speak the truth, it

wins

> everytime. I said in my last post that I have desires as I spoke

of

> before. Seeking the truth, is it not right to have these desires?

Yet

> as I meditate daily the Holy Spirit is fulfilling my desires every

day

> and bringing my spirit closer to God. I think maybe what Jagbir

says is

> that when personal fancies and false conditionings determine our

> choices then sorrow is assured. Yet i don't believe sorrow and

> suffering are the same. Sorrow comes from the lower self as does

grief,

> lust, selfish desires, and wants. Violet once told me that God

fulfills

> all our needs but maybe not all our wants.

>

> Love,

>

> Chuck