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This is absurd Prena.

If u are not aware of what ur doing, then please read

the following word of Shri Mataji.

 

Raksha-Bandhan and Maryadas for Sahaja Yogis

 

Shri Mataji,

Hounslow, London

11th

Aug. 1984

 

Today is a very great day of Rakshabandhan. So I have

to tell

you something about Raksha-bandhan. Before that we

have to

talk about the maryadas (boundaries of pure

relationships)

that have to be observed by Sahaja Yogis.

One of the things I discovered here, in the West, that

though

we have understood the importance of Mooladhara, which

is a

very important thing, that unless and until we

establish our

Mooladhara fully we are not going to have speediest

ascent.

Despite all that, there are lingering things you see

around.

Like, people start choosing their life-partners in

Sahaja

Yoga. That is not allowed. That is not allowed.

You are not to spoil your Ashrams, your centres -

using them

for a marriage searching society. You must respect

this point,

you must respect. If you have to marry, then you can

find your

life partners 'outside' Sahaja Yoga - to begin with -

But if

you want to marry 'in' Sahaja Yoga, then you should

not go on

searching people in Sahaja Yoga. It is 'very

dangerous' thing

for Sahaja Yoga itself, and for you people. That is

one thing

one should 'never' try to do with Sahaja Yoga. For all

practical purposes you are brothers and sisters. And

that's

why I always encouraged marriage between people who

belong to

another country or another centres.

As we are now having a big marriage programme, I would

say

that most of the

marriages which were done like that, are 'very'

successful

than the marriages that were selected and were done.

It's very

wrong to do such a thing as to arrange your marriage

with a

Sahaja Yogi by yourself. It will be dangerous. I don't

want to

say anything; but it wouldn't turn out to be good

because it

is anti-God activity. Absolutely anti-God. You are

supposed to

develop your brahmacharya, you are supposed to develop

your

Mooladhara. Instead of that if you start using a

Sahaja Yogini

or a Sahaja Yogi for the selection of your married

life, it's

going to be very very troublesome, your Mooladhara is

not

going to settle down. I mean that's a bad stroke for

your

development.

Because of the background and the kind of the

conditioning you

have had, you people don't understand that it is

important to

maintain the purity of the centres. And of every

place. So any

such relationship in one city is a very very wrong

thing. It

spoils everyone. To add up to the trouble, it's a

habit of

people, I have heard, that they try to tease that

''you look

better together'', ''you're nice together''. They

'tease' and

enjoy. It's a kind of a very perverted enjoyment of

mooladhara. To tease others, ''You are looking very

nice with

him, and you better marry him.'' It's a kind of a

romantic non-

sense.

Of course, for all this, yogis - they have to have a

Brahmacharya. But even if you can't have brahmacharya.

You

must have 'Maryadas.' Not to tease each other and

enjoy that

kind of a non-sense, when the marriage is not settled;

- if

marriage is settled it is alright. And this kills

completely

the joy of marriage. because there is no curiosity

left. And

many a times I find that 'absurd' relations are

established.

Some of them are really no good. And they will really

be

detrimental and some of them are never established. So

if they

are established, they are wrong, and if they are not

established, they are heartbreaking.

So all this kind of thing you should not do. You have

got

experiences of people who married outside and brought

'wonderful' people to Sahaja Yoga. If you can do it,

you

should do it. If you have to marry Sahaja Yogi, you

should not

marry them at the cost of destroying the purity and

the

idealism it has. For your own sake, for your 'own'

pleasures

you should not spoil the name of Sahaja Yoga.

That is one thing I have seen, so I would say that

today, as

it is the day of purity between relationships, let us

know

that you have to treat each other as brothers and

sisters. No

such play should be followed. Don't allow your mind to

drift

into this. Because if you allow, then there's no end

to it. As

it is, you know how hard it is to bring you back to

normalcy.

When Christ had said, " Thou shalt not have adulterous

eyes " ,

He did not say it because it was not practical. It is

quite

practical for Sahaja Yogis. And there is nothing to

worry

about marriages so much, what is so important ? So

many are

married and what has happened to them. 'Even' with the

Sahaja

Yoga marriage, some have failed because of these bad

habits.

So you 'better' get rid of these bad habits before

marriage.

Because after marriage also they go on like this, and

searching for boys and girls. Because if these habits

are not

curbed, 'before' marriage, then they go on lingering

on. So,

one should not try to do all these things before

marriage. And

I have seen such marriages are never, never successful

so far.

And even if they are, it is a sort of make-believe

thing. It

doesn't give real joy, it's a joyless pursuit. May be

in one

case - may be - successful, that does not mean that

you take

help from such difficult things, but have 'normal'

marriage

which are enjoyable, which have created permanent

bondages

between people.

 

 

--- sahajamatch <sahajamatch wrote:

 

> JSM,

>

> We introduce a new to you:

> sahajamatch

> -----------------------

> Dear Sahaja Yogi's and Yogini's

>

> If you are a Sahaja Yogi of marriageable age, and

> were wanting to

> explore options to marry another Sahaja Yogi, but

> were not able to do

> so for various reasons, here is YOUR platform, where

> you exercise

> YOUR

> RIGHT to be YOUR OWN GURU.

>

> Here you may post your matrimonial profile, and view

> other sahaja

> yogi's profiles, communicate, and make your own

> decision if you would

> want to marry that person. Yes! Let us be as own own

> masters and be

> able to talk to each other.

>

> I am waiting for your suggestions. Remember, this

> forum is created

> for you and you are welcome to air your views.

> Ofcourse with each

> right there is a responsiblity. Lets keep this forum

> an honest,

> decent & friendly one.

>

> God bless you all, JSM.

> Love....Prerna.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

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This New group should be closed immediately. Prerna you need some meditation. Ask Shri Mataji's forgiveness for indulging in antisahaj activities. Shri Ganesh is not going to like it and it could be dangerous for you to play with fire.

 

Jai Shri Mataji

 

Mahesh Khatriindia107 sahaji <india335 wrote:

This is absurd Prena.If u are not aware of what ur doing, then please readthe following word of Shri Mataji. Raksha-Bandhan and Maryadas for Sahaja Yogis Shri Mataji,Hounslow, London 11thAug. 1984Today is a very great day of Rakshabandhan. So I haveto tellyou something about Raksha-bandhan. Before that wehave totalk

about the maryadas (boundaries of purerelationships)that have to be observed by Sahaja Yogis.One of the things I discovered here, in the West, thatthoughwe have understood the importance of Mooladhara, whichis avery important thing, that unless and until weestablish ourMooladhara fully we are not going to have speediestascent.Despite all that, there are lingering things you seearound.Like, people start choosing their life-partners inSahajaYoga. That is not allowed. That is not allowed.You are not to spoil your Ashrams, your centres -using themfor a marriage searching society. You must respectthis point,you must respect. If you have to marry, then you canfind yourlife partners 'outside' Sahaja Yoga - to begin with -But ifyou want to marry 'in' Sahaja Yoga, then you shouldnot go onsearching people in Sahaja Yoga. It is 'verydangerous' thingfor Sahaja Yoga itself, and for you

people. That isone thingone should 'never' try to do with Sahaja Yoga. For allpractical purposes you are brothers and sisters. Andthat'swhy I always encouraged marriage between people whobelong toanother country or another centres.As we are now having a big marriage programme, I wouldsaythat most of themarriages which were done like that, are 'very'successfulthan the marriages that were selected and were done.It's verywrong to do such a thing as to arrange your marriagewith aSahaja Yogi by yourself. It will be dangerous. I don'twant tosay anything; but it wouldn't turn out to be goodbecause itis anti-God activity. Absolutely anti-God. You aresupposed todevelop your brahmacharya, you are supposed to developyourMooladhara. Instead of that if you start using aSahaja Yoginior a Sahaja Yogi for the selection of your marriedlife, it'sgoing to be very very troublesome, your

Mooladhara isnotgoing to settle down. I mean that's a bad stroke foryourdevelopment.Because of the background and the kind of theconditioning youhave had, you people don't understand that it isimportant tomaintain the purity of the centres. And of everyplace. So anysuch relationship in one city is a very very wrongthing. Itspoils everyone. To add up to the trouble, it's ahabit ofpeople, I have heard, that they try to tease that''you lookbetter together'', ''you're nice together''. They'tease' andenjoy. It's a kind of a very perverted enjoyment ofmooladhara. To tease others, ''You are looking verynice withhim, and you better marry him.'' It's a kind of aromantic non-sense.Of course, for all this, yogis - they have to have aBrahmacharya. But even if you can't have brahmacharya.Youmust have 'Maryadas.' Not to tease each other andenjoy thatkind of a non-sense, when the

marriage is not settled;- ifmarriage is settled it is alright. And this killscompletelythe joy of marriage. because there is no curiosityleft. Andmany a times I find that 'absurd' relations areestablished.Some of them are really no good. And they will reallybedetrimental and some of them are never established. Soif theyare established, they are wrong, and if they are notestablished, they are heartbreaking.So all this kind of thing you should not do. You havegotexperiences of people who married outside and brought'wonderful' people to Sahaja Yoga. If you can do it,youshould do it. If you have to marry Sahaja Yogi, youshould notmarry them at the cost of destroying the purity andtheidealism it has. For your own sake, for your 'own'pleasuresyou should not spoil the name of Sahaja Yoga.That is one thing I have seen, so I would say thattoday, asit is the day of purity between

relationships, let usknowthat you have to treat each other as brothers andsisters. Nosuch play should be followed. Don't allow your mind todriftinto this. Because if you allow, then there's no endto it. Asit is, you know how hard it is to bring you back tonormalcy.When Christ had said, " Thou shalt not have adulterouseyes",He did not say it because it was not practical. It isquitepractical for Sahaja Yogis. And there is nothing toworryabout marriages so much, what is so important ? Somany aremarried and what has happened to them. 'Even' with theSahajaYoga marriage, some have failed because of these badhabits.So you 'better' get rid of these bad habits beforemarriage.Because after marriage also they go on like this, andsearching for boys and girls. Because if these habitsare notcurbed, 'before' marriage, then they go on lingeringon. So,one should not try to do all these

things beforemarriage. AndI have seen such marriages are never, never successfulso far.And even if they are, it is a sort of make-believething. Itdoesn't give real joy, it's a joyless pursuit. May bein onecase - may be - successful, that does not mean thatyou takehelp from such difficult things, but have 'normal'marriagewhich are enjoyable, which have created permanentbondagesbetween people.--- sahajamatch <sahajamatch wrote:> JSM,> > We introduce a new to you:> sahajamatch> -----------------------> Dear Sahaja Yogi's and Yogini's> > If you are a Sahaja Yogi of marriageable age, and> were wanting to> explore options to marry another Sahaja Yogi, but> were not able to do> so for various reasons, here is YOUR platform,

where> you exercise > YOUR> RIGHT to be YOUR OWN GURU.> > Here you may post your matrimonial profile, and view> other sahaja> yogi's profiles, communicate, and make your own> decision if you would> want to marry that person. Yes! Let us be as own own> masters and be> able to talk to each other.> > I am waiting for your suggestions. Remember, this> forum is created> for you and you are welcome to air your views.> Ofcourse with each> right there is a responsiblity. Lets keep this forum> an honest,> decent & friendly one.> > God bless you all, JSM.> Love....Prerna.> > > > > > > > Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free.http://music./unlimited/

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Dear Mahesh,

There is nothing wrong with people making a group like this; I do

not think that this is improper or antisahaj activity. The

organisation does not own the right of people to choose their

marriage partners as they wish with the best of intentions, and

people cannot prevent this.

Innocence is looking at something without conditionings; I suggedst

you try to do this.

Regards, Semira

 

 

 

, mahesh khatri

<maheshkhatri> wrote:

>

> This New group should be closed immediately. Prerna you need some

meditation. Ask Shri Mataji's forgiveness for indulging in antisahaj

activities. Shri Ganesh is not going to like it and it could be

dangerous for you to play with fire.

>

> Jai Shri Mataji

>

> Mahesh Khatri

>

> india107 sahaji <india335> wrote:

> This is absurd Prena.

> If u are not aware of what ur doing, then please read

> the following word of Shri Mataji.

>

> Raksha-Bandhan and Maryadas for Sahaja Yogis

>

> Shri Mataji,

> Hounslow, London

> 11th

> Aug. 1984

>

> Today is a very great day of Rakshabandhan. So I have

> to tell

> you something about Raksha-bandhan. Before that we

> have to

> talk about the maryadas (boundaries of pure

> relationships)

> that have to be observed by Sahaja Yogis.

> One of the things I discovered here, in the West, that

> though

> we have understood the importance of Mooladhara, which

> is a

> very important thing, that unless and until we

> establish our

> Mooladhara fully we are not going to have speediest

> ascent.

> Despite all that, there are lingering things you see

> around.

> Like, people start choosing their life-partners in

> Sahaja

> Yoga. That is not allowed. That is not allowed.

> You are not to spoil your Ashrams, your centres -

> using them

> for a marriage searching society. You must respect

> this point,

> you must respect. If you have to marry, then you can

> find your

> life partners 'outside' Sahaja Yoga - to begin with -

> But if

> you want to marry 'in' Sahaja Yoga, then you should

> not go on

> searching people in Sahaja Yoga. It is 'very

> dangerous' thing

> for Sahaja Yoga itself, and for you people. That is

> one thing

> one should 'never' try to do with Sahaja Yoga. For all

> practical purposes you are brothers and sisters. And

> that's

> why I always encouraged marriage between people who

> belong to

> another country or another centres.

> As we are now having a big marriage programme, I would

> say

> that most of the

> marriages which were done like that, are 'very'

> successful

> than the marriages that were selected and were done.

> It's very

> wrong to do such a thing as to arrange your marriage

> with a

> Sahaja Yogi by yourself. It will be dangerous. I don't

> want to

> say anything; but it wouldn't turn out to be good

> because it

> is anti-God activity. Absolutely anti-God. You are

> supposed to

> develop your brahmacharya, you are supposed to develop

> your

> Mooladhara. Instead of that if you start using a

> Sahaja Yogini

> or a Sahaja Yogi for the selection of your married

> life, it's

> going to be very very troublesome, your Mooladhara is

> not

> going to settle down. I mean that's a bad stroke for

> your

> development.

> Because of the background and the kind of the

> conditioning you

> have had, you people don't understand that it is

> important to

> maintain the purity of the centres. And of every

> place. So any

> such relationship in one city is a very very wrong

> thing. It

> spoils everyone. To add up to the trouble, it's a

> habit of

> people, I have heard, that they try to tease that

> ''you look

> better together'', ''you're nice together''. They

> 'tease' and

> enjoy. It's a kind of a very perverted enjoyment of

> mooladhara. To tease others, ''You are looking very

> nice with

> him, and you better marry him.'' It's a kind of a

> romantic non-

> sense.

> Of course, for all this, yogis - they have to have a

> Brahmacharya. But even if you can't have brahmacharya.

> You

> must have 'Maryadas.' Not to tease each other and

> enjoy that

> kind of a non-sense, when the marriage is not settled;

> - if

> marriage is settled it is alright. And this kills

> completely

> the joy of marriage. because there is no curiosity

> left. And

> many a times I find that 'absurd' relations are

> established.

> Some of them are really no good. And they will really

> be

> detrimental and some of them are never established. So

> if they

> are established, they are wrong, and if they are not

> established, they are heartbreaking.

> So all this kind of thing you should not do. You have

> got

> experiences of people who married outside and brought

> 'wonderful' people to Sahaja Yoga. If you can do it,

> you

> should do it. If you have to marry Sahaja Yogi, you

> should not

> marry them at the cost of destroying the purity and

> the

> idealism it has. For your own sake, for your 'own'

> pleasures

> you should not spoil the name of Sahaja Yoga.

> That is one thing I have seen, so I would say that

> today, as

> it is the day of purity between relationships, let us

> know

> that you have to treat each other as brothers and

> sisters. No

> such play should be followed. Don't allow your mind to

> drift

> into this. Because if you allow, then there's no end

> to it. As

> it is, you know how hard it is to bring you back to

> normalcy.

> When Christ had said, " Thou shalt not have adulterous

> eyes " ,

> He did not say it because it was not practical. It is

> quite

> practical for Sahaja Yogis. And there is nothing to

> worry

> about marriages so much, what is so important ? So

> many are

> married and what has happened to them. 'Even' with the

> Sahaja

> Yoga marriage, some have failed because of these bad

> habits.

> So you 'better' get rid of these bad habits before

> marriage.

> Because after marriage also they go on like this, and

> searching for boys and girls. Because if these habits

> are not

> curbed, 'before' marriage, then they go on lingering

> on. So,

> one should not try to do all these things before

> marriage. And

> I have seen such marriages are never, never successful

> so far.

> And even if they are, it is a sort of make-believe

> thing. It

> doesn't give real joy, it's a joyless pursuit. May be

> in one

> case - may be - successful, that does not mean that

> you take

> help from such difficult things, but have 'normal'

> marriage

> which are enjoyable, which have created permanent

> bondages

> between people.

>

>

> --- sahajamatch <sahajamatch> wrote:

>

> > JSM,

> >

> > We introduce a new to you:

> > sahajamatch

> > -----------------------

> > Dear Sahaja Yogi's and Yogini's

> >

> > If you are a Sahaja Yogi of marriageable age, and

> > were wanting to

> > explore options to marry another Sahaja Yogi, but

> > were not able to do

> > so for various reasons, here is YOUR platform, where

> > you exercise

> > YOUR

> > RIGHT to be YOUR OWN GURU.

> >

> > Here you may post your matrimonial profile, and view

> > other sahaja

> > yogi's profiles, communicate, and make your own

> > decision if you would

> > want to marry that person. Yes! Let us be as own own

> > masters and be

> > able to talk to each other.

> >

> > I am waiting for your suggestions. Remember, this

> > forum is created

> > for you and you are welcome to air your views.

> > Ofcourse with each

> > right there is a responsiblity. Lets keep this forum

> > an honest,

> > decent & friendly one.

> >

> > God bless you all, JSM.

> > Love....Prerna.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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