About spiritual maturity....

[Guest guest]

Dear All,

 

In the following excerpt, Shri Mataji advises how we can leave our spiritual

'babyhood' behind and become 'spiritually mature' Sahaja Yogis. Hopefully we can

all glean some wisdom for our spiritual growth from this talk.

 

Jai Shri Mataji!

 

Violet

 

 

(Excerpt from Guru Puja 1987 in Shudy Camps Park House

12 July, 1987)....

 

" On this point I have to say a few words. It's important. I have to make a few

points about the spontaneity aspect, which is quite interesting – the way people

think spontaneity works.

 

For example, with so many people, it's mostly the ego part, which says: " this is

spontaneous " . Especially the very old Sahaja Yogis think they are authorities on

spontaneity. Like we had some land in Vaitharna. So one of the older ones went

there and he said, " This land is vibrating, and this land is not vibrating. " So

everybody accepted that: " Alright, alright, alright. " Then he said: " In this

part of the land nobody should eat their food. " From where does this knowledge

come? I mean, eating food is not a sin, is it? As if it would be a sin, if you

were eating food there!

 

But religiously they'll follow: " A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H .... down to ....Z. "

Then, again: " A, B, C.... " `Sahaja' Yoga has gone to such an extent, that I

start thinking: " Now they have become another group of fanatic Sahaja Yogis.... "

But fanaticism is against Sahaja Yoga. Absolutely.

 

Now they'll ask, " How many times should we say this mantra? " Then I say, " Zero

times. " .... (Laughter) " How many drops of `ghee' should we put in our noses?

Then I say, " A full jug. " .... (Laughter) " Oh, I should not have gone from the

left side, I should have gone from the right side. " Then I would say, " just jump

up, where you are. " .... (Laughter) You have to be like children. But people's

ideas are so settled down in Sahaja Yoga, (even) now – in so few years. But your

ideas should not settle down. It's not 'sahaj'.... it's not spontaneous. " If you

do it this way, then it is wrong. That way, then it's wrong " . Nothing of the

kind. Nothing should be (theoretically) " wrong " for you people. If you do

anything really wrong, your vibrations will be lost, finished. So, what is there

to be so cautious about?

 

Like somebody said: " I don't want to look at this cigarette. " I said: " Why? "

" Even looking at it is sinful! " he said. I said: " When you look at it, what

happens? " " Then I feel like smoking. " So I said: " Then you'd better smoke once

and for all! " (Laughter).... Or they'll say: " I cannot hold a wine bottle in

my hand. " " Why? " " No, holding the wine bottle is sinful. " I mean, you can swim

in wine, (if you really want to)! (Laughter)

 

So, this kind of understanding (and discrimination) should be there. Though I

have always said: " If I say one thing, you tend to cling on to it (exclusively),

so I always say the other side of it too. " So don't " stick on " to anything.

Sahaja Yoga is not for " sticking on " to something. For example, somebody who had

learnt certain lessons about Sahaja Yoga at the beginning, say certain mantras

that they had learnt, and still today they are sticking on to the same stage.

No, no, no, no! You have to go ahead. (Sahaja Yoga is a process of growth), just

a staircase (a series of steps for going up ever higher). So, don't get stuck at

a particular point. We have had so many such cases here. People get really

`out-worn', as they say, (like a coat you should have discarded ages ago).

They'll go on telling you so many nonsensical ideas that they learnt at the

beginning: " You see, you do like this, then this happens, etc. "

 

First of all: Don't give ideas to others. That's the thing. If you decide: " We

won't give ideas about what is wrong with the other person, " half of your job is

done. Because in reality you don't have to do any job – just as I don't.

 

People have become so fanatical in their `knowledge' that even to new people

they'll say: " You are a bhoot! " And, instead of trying to help them, they'll

say: " let them get on with it. " I get reports from others, who say: " Your Sahaja

Yogis are wicked people, because they say to people: `You are evil.' `You are

possessed.' `You are this, you are that.' – They are very wicked people. " ....

I'm really shocked to hear that about Sahaja Yogis. How can they be wicked and,

for example, if somebody is suffering from something and they `phone and tell

them: " Oh, you'd better get on with it, it is good for you. " That's not the way.

 

We have to be not only humble, but very tactful and sweet to new people, if you

want more people to come in. But, if you have decided not to have any more –

because then we'd have to put up another marquee – then I have nothing more to

say. But, if you want others to come in, then it's important that you talk to

them in a very sweet and beautiful language, in a way they'll understand.

Rudeness, arrogance and showing off are of no use.

 

One should understand: `Sahaja Yoga' is when you are in complete enjoyment about

it, when you are totally immersed in that temperament.

 

Where is the time to remember how many times you ought to give a 'bandhan' to

yourself? What is the need to give a `bandhan' to yourself? Now, it's all a joke

for you. Or it should be. A little child has to suck the milk from the bottle

all right, because it has no teeth. But what about you people having that kind

of a baby thing? This is very childish and shows no growth at all.

 

Sahaja Yogis must grow within. There should no longer be anyone regarded as

`immature' Sahaja Yogis. I would say a `mature Sahaja Yogi' is one who can

combine many, many different things together, (who is flexible and

discriminating), but with all the beautiful, fine dividing lines, (the

`maryadas',) maintained. (You must be 'diplomatic, with an adaptable and varied

response according to the situation).

 

But you cannot do it the other way round. For example, if you say, (regardless

of the situation): " Now I'll be sweet and then I'll be angry, now I'll be like

this, then I'll be like that. " It will be a hotch-potch. It's a funny

personality you will be. Suddenly you get angry, like this and then like that.

People will think you are doing " Bharata Natyam " (classical dance) or something,

like that – showing all your moods! In five minutes you are showing ten

different moods (regardless of the needs of the moment).

 

This flexible response comes from growth within you. So we'll have to have our

growth. And for our growth, let us be silent within. Let us not react to others:

" This person is this, that person is that. " What about yourself? "

 

And then there are other things you do. For example, I tell somebody that he has

a certain problem. So, that person immediately goes to a second person: " You

see, Mother told me that you too have this problem, you'd better look after it. "

I didn't tell that person. I told you. Keep it to yourself.

 

So.... " Mother Says " is to be given up. Absolutely. If Mother has to " say " ,

She'll say it. Why should you communicate, why should you say? I never asked you

to say that to others!

 

Understanding Sahaja Yoga is very simple, extremely simple, when you understand

one thing: You have to have your Innocence intact. " Now, how can we get to

Innocence? " people will say. How to get to Innocence is a vicious circle. How to

get to Innocence? We have to get to Innocence: through what? Your ego or

superego? How will you get to Innocence?….

 

(Shri Mataji interrupts Her talk and addresses some Sahaja Yogis who are

mechanically raising their Kundalinis, just as they've been 'told' to do.

" Mother says…. " Don't raise your Kundalinis! I mean, I'm sitting just here

before you, and yet people are doing that. What's this? I'm sitting here and so

your Kundalinis are (spontaneously) up there, at the top of your head. What are

you raising?)

 

Now, `how to manage to get to your Innocence?' is the problem. Very simple it

is. In the beginning I said: " Let your Guru reside in your heart. " And yet,

people ask: " How can we manage? " Why are they asking such a simple question? Let

MOTHER manage. " Mother is managing me. " Keep it at that, and your right side

will clear. Your left side will clear when you say, " Nobody can manage me, but

Mother can manage me! " The two things together. Then things will work out. Thank

God you have somebody like Me sitting here so that you can say that (with such

confidence). Think of those who never had anyone to tell them or to be in the

presence of one who could say, " I can manage this " , or " You can manage that. "

That's how you can balance yourself. (i.e. By saying both: " Nobody can manage

me, " for the left side and: " Mother can manage me, " for the right side).

 

Allow your Kundalini to grow. Everything works out.

 

(Excerpt from GURU Collection of Lectures 1979-1987)