On rising to that level of understanding....

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Dear All,

 

The greatness of the person we know as Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi is revealed in

this Seminar. She encourages Her Children to grow up, not just receive the Grace

but also to use it to Grow to a higher spiritual level. She tells of Her

experiences in Gandhi's Ashram and about the greatness of this man and the

sacrifices that were made to liberate India. It is interesting that not only has

Shri Mataji universally opened the Spiritual Centre within Humans called the

Sahasrara (Kingdom of God Within), but She (among others) has also been involved

in the Struggle for Freedom of India, which is the country, which represents the

Sahasrara. The `Sahasrara' of the Virata is located in the `Himalayas' in India.

(http://adishakti.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=220)

 

There is also much advice given which is valuable for all of us. (The notations

in brackets are written by myself).

 

So, please enjoy Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi's Wonderful Words to us all.

 

Violet

 

 

Sahaja Yogis have to Ascend, sacrificing for the Greatest Cause…

(International Seminar, Bordi – Feb 6, 1985)

 

I'm immensely joyous to see all of you here. I do not know what to say from my

side. The words get lost. They have no meaning. So many of you aspiring to

ascend to that state where you would have complete joy, bliss, and peace. This

is what I could give you. And a Mother is only happy when She can give whatever

She has, to Her children. Her unhappiness, all Her restlessness, everything, is

just to achieve that end, - to gift all that She has.

 

I do not know how much to thank you people to go through all this to get to that

treasure that you have within yourself. " Sahaja " is the only word I could think

when I started to manifest Sahasrara opening. That's easily understood by

everyone so far. But you have realized that it is today a different style of

Yoga where first enlightenment is given, and then you are allowed to look after

yourself. It was never done before. – It's just a venture of your Mother, which

has worked out.

 

Otherwise in the olden times, of course, the concern of the Divine was to get

people enlightened. And they did not know how to work it out. No incarnation

ever tried to work it out in this fashion. But whenever they tried, they tried

to have a very severe hardship for the seekers. Very sever hardships.

 

I wonder how many of you have read the treatise of Buddha, when he used to

travel with thousands of his disciples – not giving realisation. They were not

realized souls, without feeling any joy around. With two clothes. Living in the

jungles, - just two clothes. And the area where he visited – which I have seen

myself – is terribly cold; chilly, absolutely chilly. And the clothes were not

clothes actually; it was cloth covering their body. Sleeping on the open ground

in a very severe winter, - or may be the summer. Without any shoes they were

asked to walk, for miles together, miles together!

 

If you go and see where Buddha has walked and trodden, you will be surprised.

Buddha was also young, he used to also walk. But his disciples used to walk much

more, because he would go and station in a place, he would send his disciples, -

there was not time to advertise, or to announce anything. So that he used to

stay in one place, and the disciples used to go round the villages, ask for

bhiksha, - meaning the alms, - to gather some food from the villages; cook one

time, give part of it to Buddha, and the rest of that they used to eat.

 

They would go, work out, get people from all the villages, whatever was

possible, and would bring them to Buddha for a sermon. Such sacrifices! They've

lived in huts, caves, in terrible darkness, - meditating. But they never got

realisation. Very few got their realisation.

 

There were people, who were sons of great princes, and princes, dukes, what you

call, duchess as you call – all `very-very' rich people. Women of very rich

families followed him. And they walked for miles together with him in the thorny

routes. – Because they felt that Buddha's work was of such universal importance;

that they are the part and parcel of such a tremendous task; that they should be

taking part in such a great work for humanity.

 

This is not only in India, but even Viditama who started Zen system in Japan. In

China, I was surprised, the amount of sacrifices the Saints had made; the way

they lived! I mean if you see the way they were living in the conditions. You

cannot imagine! And they ended up their lives like that. Working it out, without

any proper guidance, because Buddha had died, there was no way out. They had to

find their own ways. Then they found Mahayana and Shvetayana – all kinds of

things.

 

Even if you see other seekers in other religions, - like at the time of Christ.

Where did they live? And after the death of Christ it was even worse, because

they were persecuted, they were killed, they were tortured, crucified! It

happened with Moses also. His disciples were hounded, so they had to all run

towards India. Imagine the distances! From that area to Kashmir, how they must

have walked! How they must have lived, how they must have carried. And in

'thousands'! In `thousands', they came, to India.

 

Because they realized that they are doing a `tremendous' task, something so

`great' that they are supporting.

 

In this country we had a struggle for freedom. I was part and parcel of that. My

parents were part and parcel of that. They were rich people; quite rich I should

say, from every standard. You will be amazed, my father burnt all his suits;

they were stitched in England. My mother burnt all her sarees. They used to spin

their own clothes, and wear them.

 

My father sacrificed `everything', every pie that he had, for the freedom

struggle. He left nothing for us, not a single…. I should say, of course, our

family being rich we had silver and gold and all that. But as far as all the

cash money was concerned, was spent. And all this silver and gold also, thanks

to English…. that they took away from us, and they returned us when they went

back. That is how we had some silver and gold left in the family.

 

`Everything', - all that is material, - was snatched away. And I know, we lived

in beautiful houses, and then we shifted to huts and lived there. Sacrifices to

the `Maximum'. And we were very happy about it. Very proud!

 

We had only two changes. We used to wash our clothes, live like very poor

people, sleeping on this kind of a thing (thin, rough floor mats). For my life,

I remember that I never used to take a pillow. I never used chappals (footwear)

for ages. I had only one sweater made out of this kind of a material (very rough

woollen). Till I passed out (of school) and I went to medical college, I had

that sweater with me. I had only one coat `throughout' my education. When I was

in Lahore, which is terribly cold and sometimes can be like London, it was worn

out and finished.

 

But we never grudged, and never grumbled, and never said that our father should

have looked after us and done something, why did he just sacrifice everything

for the country. `Never', `never', never'.

 

But even today, when they see us, anywhere, they know we are the children of

such a great man. They have tremendous respect for us.

 

That quality was created, I should say, by Mahatma Gandhi. He made everybody so

transformed into a new personality of `tremendous' sacrifice. `Tremendous'! You

cannot imagine how people lived! All the money we had, `everything', that we

had, all conveniences, conveyance, all houses, everything was given up. – Not

only by my father but so many of them.

 

Otherwise we could not have got our freedom. To get our freedom, this country

has sacrificed so much.

 

I must say Gandhiji had a special charm. I do not know how he managed. He was

like " touch of Midas " – touched anybody, he became transformed, you see. And he

was an extremely strict man. – Very kind to me, the children. But he was an

`extremely' strict man. He would not tolerate any nonsense at all!

 

Throughout, - if you study in the way all these people were brought up, - not

only for freedom or independence, but even before that, for spiritual life,

`anywhere', - there is one thing is very common, is " Sacrifice " : And the

consciousness that you are doing something great. Consciousness that you are

part and parcel of the Whole. Such a big thing, such a big work. It's a `noble'

cause.

 

And then there was one thing very common. Very common among all of them: That

the noble cause, the upliftment of the `noble' cause made them sacrifice in such

a Sahaja manner. Much more than the Sahaja Yogis sometimes, who have got so much

in Sahaja Yoga. They have got their joy; they have got their Spirit.

 

I have seen with my own eyes, such people in this country, whom you may call

legendary but I have seen it. Thousands of people were killed and butchered!

Children died! Nobody shed tears. Nobody shed tears. But to feel that you are

for such a `noble' cause itself gives you that joy. Joy, and that sense of

involvement.

 

And moreover, what I know about Mahatma Gandhi and other people, what I have

seen, how they were. Everybody was not allowed to come in. And anybody who did

even slightest thing less than – whether he was a King's son or he was anybody's

daughter or anything, `any' little thing spoilt, `anything', - he was chucked

out. I have stayed in Gandhi's Ashram, so I know what it is, and that's why you

know I can go through rigorous life. It is his training.

 

All the children, above twelve years had to clean the whole of that Ashram area,

which is I think in 50 acres of land. – Every morning. They had to clean their

latrines. Also the latrines of the guests. – I have done it. And they were

allowed only two dresses. And nothing could be kept, even you cannot see `even

one' paper anywhere, any litter anywhere. So clean, spick and span. And the

living places were so neat and tidy. It was all done with cowdung – completely

with cowdung. `Everybody' had to take a bath, early in the morning at 4 O'clock,

with cold water. Whether it was Jawahar Lal Nehru, Abul Kalam Azad, my father,

of any age group, or a child. And 5 O'clock, Mahatma Gandhi was there for his

lecture.

 

(Please don't raise your hands and raise your Kundalinis. Please be seated. That

is not the way. Try to understand what I am talking).

 

And then, early in the morning at 4 O'clock, you'll be surprised, getting up –

for me it was alright, - and then to walk in those 50 acres of land to the

centre of that hall – which was nothing but just an open space surrounded by

some sort of huts where Gandhiji was living. To walk all the way after bath,

after getting ready and all that. And snakes used to crawl along. Nobody was

bitten, of course. I think the snakes understood that people were busy with the

great job of freeing this great country.

 

And we would sit, just like this, and snakes would be crawling. No lights were

allowed. No lights, of any kind. We only used sunlight. And when Gandhiji would

come – I mean sunlight was not there in the morning, at all – some lanterns were

brought to put there. And we would see the snakes crawling up.

 

But I never heard anybody complaining, but like a `war', drove with such

`passion'; everybody competing as to " what I can do, how I can be alright " .

Nobody `even thought' of comfort! Of course they were all about, say 50 years,

up to 50 years of age or something like that, may be. In the Ashram mostly

people were up to 50 years of age, that time.

 

And I have seen with my own eyes the people who had huge cars in the house and

things like that, they sold off, they threw it away. They used to come by train

to Wardha station and walk down. Gandhiji would not see anybody coming even in a

tonga (horse-cart). And they listened to him and obeyed him.

 

I have seen many missionaries, though they are not up to the point, nothing very

noble, but the way that's how they take people to task and people work it out

for them. I have seen them. In India we have missionaries, and they just

`absolutely obediently' listened to the church, and did whatever they said.

 

Now today we are doing, as you know, the greatest of greatest work.

 

Because freedom is of course necessary, political freedom to talk even about

God. We could not make even a small little needle at that time; we were not

allowed, by the Government. So much oppressed. So we had to get out of the

shackles of slavery. No doubt.

 

But now I find we have another kind of slavery. A slavery of selfishness,

self-oriented: " This is my comfort. I must have this. It should be enjoyable. I

am enjoying, I'm this, I'm that " . " You " should enjoy, otherwise it is not

something great. I mean the whole thing should provide you some sort of a

feeling, instead of you providing the feeling. Because people, I think, do not

know what they are doing. What sort of a work they are doing. They do not want

to come up to that level, of that height, to see " What are you upto " ? You are

trying to save the whole world!

 

This is one of the reasons Sahaja Yoga moves so slowly, because they see people

who worry, who are worried about their comforts, this that, and also themselves

are so lousy. There, is no smartness about them. No feeling of that `greatness'

that they have to do. You have to be smart. If you know you are on the war, how

you behave?

 

I'm sure the mediocrity is much less now. Better people. I'm `sure' we will get

better people now, much better people.

 

They worry about little things of their family, this that. They worry about

their own problems, and their jobs, and this and that. I mean, nobody could do

like this to Gandhiji! I tell you, he would have slapped! Take it from me.

 

It is as if to come to Sahaja Yoga means " solve your own problems " ; that's all.

Though you are – they are solved no doubt, you are helped, God helps you so

much. But how much are you doing about it?

 

Of course we have great Sahaja Yogis, I do not deny that fact. We 'have' some.

Much more than I had, - ever. And that is why I am very joyous about it. But the

dedication we have. – We count every penny that we spend. How much we have got

out of that penny, what did we do about it. This is not the way.

 

Buddha never spent a single penny of his own. He got money from all his

disciples. Built all these big things and all that. He never had even a public

help from any body else..

 

So rise now. You must rise above your petty small mind. Rise upto the point

where you should know " you are going to save the whole humanity " . If you cannot

feel that, it is better to leave Sahaja Yoga. Sahaja Yoga is not meant for

people who are lousy. In Marathi the word is (Gabale) Tukarama has said " Yerya

gabadyache kama nohe " . It is not the work of the lousy.

 

Shivaji himself, when he fought his war, he caught hold of people, the Sardaras

and the dukes of that time they were. They gave up 'everything' they had, they

gave up their lives, `everything'! Their children they sacrificed (did not have

children)… they sacrificed `whatever' they had. Shivaji had no money to pay

them. You must have heard lots of stories about Shivaji.

 

While if you see how these Sahaja Yogis are in this world, Kshema comes first

before Yoga. It's like that. It's your Mother's Love. I want my children to be

comfortable. They are newly born babes. All right, they need comfort; they are

to be looked after.

 

But I cannot blackmail the Divine because the children are small. Can I? I am

here to do the job of God Almighty. And when you are my children, - All right,

His Grace will work, he will look after you. He will make you grow.

 

But `Grow' now. Grow. You have to grow. Get out of this small nonsense that you

are.

 

See your personality, how you live? Where is your attention? What do you think?

Are you thinking about Sahaja Yoga? That is the most important thing for which

you are chosen.

 

I feel sometimes, as I was feeling all the time that you might be uncomfortable

in many places. But I myself have seen the way you people have been in those

places, most carelessly – the western Sahaja Yogis, - I was surprised! That way

Indians are better in this respect. `And' some of the Indian Sahaja Yogis have

been misbehaving in a very funny manner. It shocked me! The way they have been

behaving, - shouting at people, creating problems. Some people come to see me,

they talk to them in such a rude manner that they run away. You can talk to them

sweetly. You have to be nice to them. Not to shout at people. All right, I

cannot meet everyone at every time at every convenience, all right. But that

does not mean that you have the right to shout at others. This is so `petty' and

so `low' that I do not know how far I have to come down.

 

When you rise above all these petty things, you will develop that Divine

discretion. That Divine discretion is the Real Blessing of God. All other

blessings that you think is blessing, is no blessing at all. Unless and until

you can grow, what is the blessing? Like a tree, which has known such a blessing

that, " I have got rain " . But out of that rain if you cannot grow, what is the

use of having that rain on you?

 

You have to be compassionate, beautiful, sensible people, who are 'highest'

things on this earth. Take out your attention from all nonsense that you have

been busy with. That is how you get possessed. That is how you get conditioned.

Small-small things you see.

 

In India we have another problem. We cannot tolerate another person. If any

person is doing good for Sahaja Yoga, immediately a group is built up. It is

very common with Indians also. A group is built up to put him down.

 

This was not done when Gandhiji was there. I do not know how it happens. It only

happens with poor leadership; I think I don't have that leadership. At the time

of Gandhiji he used to `blast' people out, `completely'!

 

Cutting each other's throats, saying things behind the back, forming groups.

Anybody who works out something nice, and I try to help that person to express

himself, immediately a group comes up to press him.

 

And there are hopelessly peripheral, useless Sahaja Yogis in West and in the

East, who try to make a mess of things. They think they are big Gurus, big

people. `Very small' people, chicken-hearted, I should say. And they think they

are very big, great people, because they can take good photographs, maybe, or

that they can wear a dress in a particular manner, or something like that stupid

stuff as they are. And they try to dominate others. Such people will be thrown

out. Absolutely. No use having useless people in a machine like this.

 

Today is the beginning of a New Era, of a New Era of people of very high

qualities, whose Spirit has been enlightened. Let us all think about it.

 

Now, you have to rule yourself. And you have to rule others through compassion,

love and discretion.

 

TODAY THAT'S THE BIG TIME THAT I DECLARE THAT IT IS THE UNIVERSAL RELIGION, THE

NIRMALA RELIGION, WHICH IS FORMED OUT OF MY TEACHINGS OF LOVE.

 

But is does not mean by any chance that you remain dwarfs. I am not going to

spoil you. I am `not' going to spoil you, by keeping you dwarfy people. So, try

to rise. Do not dominate others. Respect. Respect each other. You are out for a

very big work of Virata. (See

http://books.google.com.au/books?

hl=en & id=ihBL7GLCuEEC & dq=Virata & prev=http://books.google.com.au/books

%3Fq%3DVirata%26lr%3D & lpg=PA56 & pg=PA57 & sig=ML2EZ8Iz-

v1QECWHdEMmzCIIrR4 for understanding of Virata). How much you know about the

Divine, nobody has known so far! But fix up yourself.

 

I have known of a very great saint called Gagangadh Maharaj who has fallen down

completely. If a person like him can fall down, you also can fall down, if you

do not understand what is your worth, what is your value and what is the

position you are given.

 

So we have to, today, with all our love for our Mother, have to decide in our

heart that we are going to have large heartedness, of sacrifices.

 

What have we sacrificed so far? Just think of it. Have we? Did we sacrifice

anything?

 

Please, try to understand that I have to use you the great souls, to save the

humanity. You must grow, you must grow, you have to grow.

 

On money points also people are so wretched. They make money. They save money.

In America I was surprised the way people cheated me of money! Thousands! In

India also there is, it is a very common practice.

 

Then, if you have career mindedness, and you are very ambitious. " How my job

will remain, this that, " you better get out of Sahaja Yoga! It is not going to

help us, at all. (Please note: Shri Mataji here is not advocating to leave the

job; She has elsewhere stated that people must have jobs and support themselves,

but it is this over attention or `ambitiousness', whereas where is the ambition

for saving the humanity in comparison to this?)

 

Thirdly, there are people who believe that, " This is my wife, this is my

beloved, this is this, " and all that nonsense. Why are you here? For what? – Or

" My children, my household, my mother, my father, " all sorts of wretched people

around. (Note: I am reminded of the verse in the Bible that says, " Seek ye first

the Kingdom of God and his righteousness and all these things will be added unto

you " – Matthew 6:33. I believe Shri Mataji is saying that our attention must be

on the Kingdom of God first and everything else will fall into place). She in

fact says as much by the last sentence in this paragraph…) " If you cannot rise

above that, you cannot help me, I'm sorry. You cannot help. "

 

You have to be very, very strong people. You have to be people of very great

valour and great idealism and noble ideas.

 

Some are like petty shopkeepers, who follow the platoons to sell some things

around. In Marathi it is called bazar bhunge.

 

So now you meditate upon this point – that here we are to establish the

Universal Religion of Ascent. It's a `tremendous' task! If I could do it alone,

I would have done it. But I cannot. It is only through you I have to do it. And

you have a heritage. You come from a very great birth, where you have this

heritage. With `that' heritage if I cannot manage you, I think I better give up

your leadership. I cannot do it.

 

When we were fighting for our freedom, all of us were removed from schools

because we were in the missionary schools, and the missionaries believe that

Christ was born in England, so they would not allow us to study in those

schools. So we were all removed from schools. We had no education for sometime.

I could not pass my inter-science for two years! I could not appear because they

rusticated us from colleges and schools. The Government rusticated us.

(Dictionary Definition of `rusticated' is: " to send into the country: to banish

for a time from town or college " ).

 

But we were such proud children, very proud. I was of course very much thick in

it. I was never frightened. I was just an eighteen-year-old girl. And I remember

one day, some people came and told us that your father is transferred from this

jail to another jail. They had such pride for us, all the people! So they had

brought cars to take us down. And they were so many there.

 

And mother naturally was worried because I was a young girl. The police used to

torture me, used to give me shocks, and make my life very miserable, beat me,

and all that. So she was crying and she told an old gentleman who was there

that, " I'm worried about my daughter. I do not want her to be tortured any

more. " So, I went and smiled at him, so he said, " No, you just don't. Stop it,

now. You just don't do it. It's not proper. "

 

So my father, you see, took me aside. He said, " Don't listen to this old johnny.

He is now about to die, forget him. I would like all my children to be

sacrificed on the altar of freedom. If you are doing it, I am a proud father and

I will tell your mother to behave herself. I am so proud of you! "

 

Such atmosphere I have passed through. I had to give up my college. I was

absconding for eight months; the police were after my life. I know what we have

gone through. We were very young people, eighteen years, you can imagine!

 

And now when you have got the freedom of your Spirit, you must seek the comfort

of your Spirit.

 

There are some people who are complainers, and this and that, nonsense. They

should not have come, or those who are Indians, they should get out of Sahaja

Yoga and leave us alone.

 

But, those who know they have come here, not to enjoy themselves only, but to

make the whole world enjoy what you have got. To give it to them. And for that

one has to sacrifice. One has to bear the pangs.

 

How much I bear your pangs when you are caught up, when you have troubles, when

this and that. I've got blisters sometimes, from you, everything. But I don't

mind. Because it is my Life, my Mission, my Existence, my everything – is for

the purpose of the Emancipation of Humanity. `Even' the last drop of my blood is

for that. My satisfactions are very different.

 

Please remember you are born of very brave Mother. Please try to rise. Be proud

that you are doing such tremendous task. Have that feeling of great valour. Then

only, then only we can achieve results.

 

You have seen so many wars, you have seen so many war pictures, you have seen

how people have fought, how they have sacrificed themselves. And let us see what

are we doing in this war.

 

Just make your body your slave. Get out of the slavery of your body, of your

conditionings and your nonsensical ego.

 

I'm sure, as a Mother I'm not so bad. But as a Father I think I lack some

things. Please, try to come up. So that I should feel that I did not lack in my

Fatherly attitude towards you, - that awe, that understanding of a Father's

expectations.

 

This I'm not saying to you because this is some present situation, because of

you particularly, or for anything which is very – sort of-present day problem. –

None of these things.

 

But is my announcement of this New Dimension into which we have to rise. And as

in the war, we have to declare, " Now Forward On. " In the same way this is a

declaration.

 

In no way to degrade you, in no way to insult you, or to say anything about

anyone of you. But to just infuse that inspiration, which led thousands and

thousands and millions and billions of people to sacrifice for a greater cause.

 

So now, have respect for yourself. " Raise your heads! " You are the ones who are

going to fight. You are the ones who are responsible. Prepare yourself! Prepare

your body, prepare your mind. Be discreet.

 

This is my ….I would not say request again. This is my order!

 

May God Bless You!

 

Let us all meditate now. There is no need for tying up your Kundalinis, there is

no need to give yourself bandhans. There's no need `at all' to do anything. If

you come up to that stage just now. There is no need to raise your hands and

tying up your Kundalini, not necessary. Nothing is to be done. Your Kundalinis

are already tied up. Assume! Assume that situation, that's all, that " what you

are " ! – The Veeras (brave)! And not the stupid.

 

May God Bless you all. May God Bless you. Respect yourself. Respect.

 

May God Bless you.

 

There's nothing, nothing more important to me than to see you rise to that level

of understanding of your own values, and worth, and discretion. You have to

become sweet, nice people. `But,' very very powerful! That you can control

yourself, your tongues and your things. The control, complete control of your

self.

 

May God Bless you again.

Please meditate. Close your eyes.

 

(Guru – Collection of Lectures 1979-1987)

[Guest guest]

Dear Violet,

Thank you so much for these words from Shri mataji. They have

brought a tear to my eye.

 

Love,

 

Chuck

 

, " Violet " <vtubb@b...>

wrote:

>

> Dear All,

>

> The greatness of the person we know as Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi is

revealed in this Seminar. She encourages Her Children to grow up,

not just receive the Grace but also to use it to Grow to a higher

spiritual level. She tells of Her experiences in Gandhi's Ashram and

about the greatness of this man and the sacrifices that were made to

liberate India. It is interesting that not only has Shri Mataji

universally opened the Spiritual Centre within Humans called the

Sahasrara (Kingdom of God Within), but She (among others) has also

been involved in the Struggle for Freedom of India, which is the

country, which represents the Sahasrara. The `Sahasrara' of the

Virata is located in the `Himalayas' in India.

(http://adishakti.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=220)

>

> There is also much advice given which is valuable for all of us.

(The notations in brackets are written by myself).

>

> So, please enjoy Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi's Wonderful Words to us

all.

>

> Violet

>

>

> Sahaja Yogis have to Ascend, sacrificing for the Greatest Cause…

> (International Seminar, Bordi – Feb 6, 1985)

>

> I'm immensely joyous to see all of you here. I do not know what to

say from my side. The words get lost. They have no meaning. So many

of you aspiring to ascend to that state where you would have

complete joy, bliss, and peace. This is what I could give you. And a

Mother is only happy when She can give whatever She has, to Her

children. Her unhappiness, all Her restlessness, everything, is just

to achieve that end, - to gift all that She has.

>

> I do not know how much to thank you people to go through all this

to get to that treasure that you have within yourself. " Sahaja " is

the only word I could think when I started to manifest Sahasrara

opening. That's easily understood by everyone so far. But you have

realized that it is today a different style of Yoga where first

enlightenment is given, and then you are allowed to look after

yourself. It was never done before. – It's just a venture of your

Mother, which has worked out.

>

> Otherwise in the olden times, of course, the concern of the Divine

was to get people enlightened. And they did not know how to work it

out. No incarnation ever tried to work it out in this fashion. But

whenever they tried, they tried to have a very severe hardship for

the seekers. Very sever hardships.

>

> I wonder how many of you have read the treatise of Buddha, when he

used to travel with thousands of his disciples – not giving

realisation. They were not realized souls, without feeling any joy

around. With two clothes. Living in the jungles, - just two clothes.

And the area where he visited – which I have seen myself – is

terribly cold; chilly, absolutely chilly. And the clothes were not

clothes actually; it was cloth covering their body. Sleeping on the

open ground in a very severe winter, - or may be the summer. Without

any shoes they were asked to walk, for miles together, miles

together!

>

> If you go and see where Buddha has walked and trodden, you will be

surprised. Buddha was also young, he used to also walk. But his

disciples used to walk much more, because he would go and station in

a place, he would send his disciples, - there was not time to

advertise, or to announce anything. So that he used to stay in one

place, and the disciples used to go round the villages, ask for

bhiksha, - meaning the alms, - to gather some food from the

villages; cook one time, give part of it to Buddha, and the rest of

that they used to eat.

>

> They would go, work out, get people from all the villages,

whatever was possible, and would bring them to Buddha for a sermon.

Such sacrifices! They've lived in huts, caves, in terrible

darkness, - meditating. But they never got realisation. Very few got

their realisation.

>

> There were people, who were sons of great princes, and princes,

dukes, what you call, duchess as you call – all `very-very' rich

people. Women of very rich families followed him. And they walked

for miles together with him in the thorny routes. – Because they

felt that Buddha's work was of such universal importance; that they

are the part and parcel of such a tremendous task; that they should

be taking part in such a great work for humanity.

>

> This is not only in India, but even Viditama who started Zen

system in Japan. In China, I was surprised, the amount of sacrifices

the Saints had made; the way they lived! I mean if you see the way

they were living in the conditions. You cannot imagine! And they

ended up their lives like that. Working it out, without any proper

guidance, because Buddha had died, there was no way out. They had to

find their own ways. Then they found Mahayana and Shvetayana – all

kinds of things.

>

> Even if you see other seekers in other religions, - like at the

time of Christ. Where did they live? And after the death of Christ

it was even worse, because they were persecuted, they were killed,

they were tortured, crucified! It happened with Moses also. His

disciples were hounded, so they had to all run towards India.

Imagine the distances! From that area to Kashmir, how they must have

walked! How they must have lived, how they must have carried. And

in 'thousands'! In `thousands', they came, to India.

>

> Because they realized that they are doing a `tremendous' task,

something so `great' that they are supporting.

>

> In this country we had a struggle for freedom. I was part and

parcel of that. My parents were part and parcel of that. They were

rich people; quite rich I should say, from every standard. You will

be amazed, my father burnt all his suits; they were stitched in

England. My mother burnt all her sarees. They used to spin their own

clothes, and wear them.

>

> My father sacrificed `everything', every pie that he had, for the

freedom struggle. He left nothing for us, not a single…. I should

say, of course, our family being rich we had silver and gold and all

that. But as far as all the cash money was concerned, was spent. And

all this silver and gold also, thanks to English…. that they took

away from us, and they returned us when they went back. That is how

we had some silver and gold left in the family.

>

> `Everything', - all that is material, - was snatched away. And I

know, we lived in beautiful houses, and then we shifted to huts and

lived there. Sacrifices to the `Maximum'. And we were very happy

about it. Very proud!

>

> We had only two changes. We used to wash our clothes, live like

very poor people, sleeping on this kind of a thing (thin, rough

floor mats). For my life, I remember that I never used to take a

pillow. I never used chappals (footwear) for ages. I had only one

sweater made out of this kind of a material (very rough woollen).

Till I passed out (of school) and I went to medical college, I had

that sweater with me. I had only one coat `throughout' my education.

When I was in Lahore, which is terribly cold and sometimes can be

like London, it was worn out and finished.

>

> But we never grudged, and never grumbled, and never said that our

father should have looked after us and done something, why did he

just sacrifice everything for the country. `Never', `never', never'.

>

> But even today, when they see us, anywhere, they know we are the

children of such a great man. They have tremendous respect for us.

>

> That quality was created, I should say, by Mahatma Gandhi. He made

everybody so transformed into a new personality of `tremendous'

sacrifice. `Tremendous'! You cannot imagine how people lived! All

the money we had, `everything', that we had, all conveniences,

conveyance, all houses, everything was given up. – Not only by my

father but so many of them.

>

> Otherwise we could not have got our freedom. To get our freedom,

this country has sacrificed so much.

>

> I must say Gandhiji had a special charm. I do not know how he

managed. He was like " touch of Midas " – touched anybody, he became

transformed, you see. And he was an extremely strict man. – Very

kind to me, the children. But he was an `extremely' strict man. He

would not tolerate any nonsense at all!

>

> Throughout, - if you study in the way all these people were

brought up, - not only for freedom or independence, but even before

that, for spiritual life, `anywhere', - there is one thing is very

common, is " Sacrifice " : And the consciousness that you are doing

something great. Consciousness that you are part and parcel of the

Whole. Such a big thing, such a big work. It's a `noble' cause.

>

> And then there was one thing very common. Very common among all of

them: That the noble cause, the upliftment of the `noble' cause made

them sacrifice in such a Sahaja manner. Much more than the Sahaja

Yogis sometimes, who have got so much in Sahaja Yoga. They have got

their joy; they have got their Spirit.

>

> I have seen with my own eyes, such people in this country, whom

you may call legendary but I have seen it. Thousands of people were

killed and butchered! Children died! Nobody shed tears. Nobody shed

tears. But to feel that you are for such a `noble' cause itself

gives you that joy. Joy, and that sense of involvement.

>

> And moreover, what I know about Mahatma Gandhi and other people,

what I have seen, how they were. Everybody was not allowed to come

in. And anybody who did even slightest thing less than – whether he

was a King's son or he was anybody's daughter or anything, `any'

little thing spoilt, `anything', - he was chucked out. I have stayed

in Gandhi's Ashram, so I know what it is, and that's why you know I

can go through rigorous life. It is his training.

>

> All the children, above twelve years had to clean the whole of

that Ashram area, which is I think in 50 acres of land. – Every

morning. They had to clean their latrines. Also the latrines of the

guests. – I have done it. And they were allowed only two dresses.

And nothing could be kept, even you cannot see `even one' paper

anywhere, any litter anywhere. So clean, spick and span. And the

living places were so neat and tidy. It was all done with cowdung –

completely with cowdung. `Everybody' had to take a bath, early in

the morning at 4 O'clock, with cold water. Whether it was Jawahar

Lal Nehru, Abul Kalam Azad, my father, of any age group, or a child.

And 5 O'clock, Mahatma Gandhi was there for his lecture.

>

> (Please don't raise your hands and raise your Kundalinis. Please

be seated. That is not the way. Try to understand what I am talking).

>

> And then, early in the morning at 4 O'clock, you'll be surprised,

getting up – for me it was alright, - and then to walk in those 50

acres of land to the centre of that hall – which was nothing but

just an open space surrounded by some sort of huts where Gandhiji

was living. To walk all the way after bath, after getting ready and

all that. And snakes used to crawl along. Nobody was bitten, of

course. I think the snakes understood that people were busy with the

great job of freeing this great country.

>

> And we would sit, just like this, and snakes would be crawling. No

lights were allowed. No lights, of any kind. We only used sunlight.

And when Gandhiji would come – I mean sunlight was not there in the

morning, at all – some lanterns were brought to put there. And we

would see the snakes crawling up.

>

> But I never heard anybody complaining, but like a `war', drove

with such `passion'; everybody competing as to " what I can do, how I

can be alright " . Nobody `even thought' of comfort! Of course they

were all about, say 50 years, up to 50 years of age or something

like that, may be. In the Ashram mostly people were up to 50 years

of age, that time.

>

> And I have seen with my own eyes the people who had huge cars in

the house and things like that, they sold off, they threw it away.

They used to come by train to Wardha station and walk down. Gandhiji

would not see anybody coming even in a tonga (horse-cart). And they

listened to him and obeyed him.

>

> I have seen many missionaries, though they are not up to the

point, nothing very noble, but the way that's how they take people

to task and people work it out for them. I have seen them. In India

we have missionaries, and they just `absolutely obediently' listened

to the church, and did whatever they said.

>

> Now today we are doing, as you know, the greatest of greatest work.

>

> Because freedom is of course necessary, political freedom to talk

even about God. We could not make even a small little needle at that

time; we were not allowed, by the Government. So much oppressed. So

we had to get out of the shackles of slavery. No doubt.

>

> But now I find we have another kind of slavery. A slavery of

selfishness, self-oriented: " This is my comfort. I must have this.

It should be enjoyable. I am enjoying, I'm this, I'm that " . " You "

should enjoy, otherwise it is not something great. I mean the whole

thing should provide you some sort of a feeling, instead of you

providing the feeling. Because people, I think, do not know what

they are doing. What sort of a work they are doing. They do not want

to come up to that level, of that height, to see " What are you

upto " ? You are trying to save the whole world!

>

> This is one of the reasons Sahaja Yoga moves so slowly, because

they see people who worry, who are worried about their comforts,

this that, and also themselves are so lousy. There, is no smartness

about them. No feeling of that `greatness' that they have to do. You

have to be smart. If you know you are on the war, how you behave?

>

> I'm sure the mediocrity is much less now. Better people. I'm

`sure' we will get better people now, much better people.

>

> They worry about little things of their family, this that. They

worry about their own problems, and their jobs, and this and that. I

mean, nobody could do like this to Gandhiji! I tell you, he would

have slapped! Take it from me.

>

> It is as if to come to Sahaja Yoga means " solve your own

problems " ; that's all. Though you are – they are solved no doubt,

you are helped, God helps you so much. But how much are you doing

about it?

>

> Of course we have great Sahaja Yogis, I do not deny that fact.

We 'have' some. Much more than I had, - ever. And that is why I am

very joyous about it. But the dedication we have. – We count every

penny that we spend. How much we have got out of that penny, what

did we do about it. This is not the way.

>

> Buddha never spent a single penny of his own. He got money from

all his disciples. Built all these big things and all that. He never

had even a public help from any body else..

>

> So rise now. You must rise above your petty small mind. Rise upto

the point where you should know " you are going to save the whole

humanity " . If you cannot feel that, it is better to leave Sahaja

Yoga. Sahaja Yoga is not meant for people who are lousy. In Marathi

the word is (Gabale) Tukarama has said " Yerya gabadyache kama nohe " .

It is not the work of the lousy.

>

> Shivaji himself, when he fought his war, he caught hold of people,

the Sardaras and the dukes of that time they were. They gave

up 'everything' they had, they gave up their lives, `everything'!

Their children they sacrificed (did not have children)… they

sacrificed `whatever' they had. Shivaji had no money to pay them.

You must have heard lots of stories about Shivaji.

>

> While if you see how these Sahaja Yogis are in this world, Kshema

comes first before Yoga. It's like that. It's your Mother's Love. I

want my children to be comfortable. They are newly born babes. All

right, they need comfort; they are to be looked after.

>

> But I cannot blackmail the Divine because the children are small.

Can I? I am here to do the job of God Almighty. And when you are my

children, - All right, His Grace will work, he will look after you.

He will make you grow.

>

> But `Grow' now. Grow. You have to grow. Get out of this small

nonsense that you are.

>

> See your personality, how you live? Where is your attention? What

do you think? Are you thinking about Sahaja Yoga? That is the most

important thing for which you are chosen.

>

> I feel sometimes, as I was feeling all the time that you might be

uncomfortable in many places. But I myself have seen the way you

people have been in those places, most carelessly – the western

Sahaja Yogis, - I was surprised! That way Indians are better in this

respect. `And' some of the Indian Sahaja Yogis have been misbehaving

in a very funny manner. It shocked me! The way they have been

behaving, - shouting at people, creating problems. Some people come

to see me, they talk to them in such a rude manner that they run

away. You can talk to them sweetly. You have to be nice to them. Not

to shout at people. All right, I cannot meet everyone at every time

at every convenience, all right. But that does not mean that you

have the right to shout at others. This is so `petty' and so `low'

that I do not know how far I have to come down.

>

> When you rise above all these petty things, you will develop that

Divine discretion. That Divine discretion is the Real Blessing of

God. All other blessings that you think is blessing, is no blessing

at all. Unless and until you can grow, what is the blessing? Like a

tree, which has known such a blessing that, " I have got rain " . But

out of that rain if you cannot grow, what is the use of having that

rain on you?

>

> You have to be compassionate, beautiful, sensible people, who

are 'highest' things on this earth. Take out your attention from all

nonsense that you have been busy with. That is how you get

possessed. That is how you get conditioned. Small-small things you

see.

>

> In India we have another problem. We cannot tolerate another

person. If any person is doing good for Sahaja Yoga, immediately a

group is built up. It is very common with Indians also. A group is

built up to put him down.

>

> This was not done when Gandhiji was there. I do not know how it

happens. It only happens with poor leadership; I think I don't have

that leadership. At the time of Gandhiji he used to `blast' people

out, `completely'!

>

> Cutting each other's throats, saying things behind the back,

forming groups. Anybody who works out something nice, and I try to

help that person to express himself, immediately a group comes up to

press him.

>

> And there are hopelessly peripheral, useless Sahaja Yogis in West

and in the East, who try to make a mess of things. They think they

are big Gurus, big people. `Very small' people, chicken-hearted, I

should say. And they think they are very big, great people, because

they can take good photographs, maybe, or that they can wear a dress

in a particular manner, or something like that stupid stuff as they

are. And they try to dominate others. Such people will be thrown

out. Absolutely. No use having useless people in a machine like this.

>

> Today is the beginning of a New Era, of a New Era of people of

very high qualities, whose Spirit has been enlightened. Let us all

think about it.

>

> Now, you have to rule yourself. And you have to rule others

through compassion, love and discretion.

>

> TODAY THAT'S THE BIG TIME THAT I DECLARE THAT IT IS THE UNIVERSAL

RELIGION, THE NIRMALA RELIGION, WHICH IS FORMED OUT OF MY TEACHINGS

OF LOVE.

>

> But is does not mean by any chance that you remain dwarfs. I am

not going to spoil you. I am `not' going to spoil you, by keeping

you dwarfy people. So, try to rise. Do not dominate others. Respect.

Respect each other. You are out for a very big work of Virata. (See

> http://books.google.com.au/books?

>

hl=en & id=ihBL7GLCuEEC & dq=Virata & prev=http://books.google.com.au/books

> %3Fq%3DVirata%26lr%3D & lpg=PA56 & pg=PA57 & sig=ML2EZ8Iz-

> v1QECWHdEMmzCIIrR4 for understanding of Virata). How much you know

about the Divine, nobody has known so far! But fix up yourself.

>

> I have known of a very great saint called Gagangadh Maharaj who

has fallen down completely. If a person like him can fall down, you

also can fall down, if you do not understand what is your worth,

what is your value and what is the position you are given.

>

> So we have to, today, with all our love for our Mother, have to

decide in our heart that we are going to have large heartedness, of

sacrifices.

>

> What have we sacrificed so far? Just think of it. Have we? Did we

sacrifice anything?

>

> Please, try to understand that I have to use you the great souls,

to save the humanity. You must grow, you must grow, you have to grow.

>

> On money points also people are so wretched. They make money. They

save money. In America I was surprised the way people cheated me of

money! Thousands! In India also there is, it is a very common

practice.

>

> Then, if you have career mindedness, and you are very

ambitious. " How my job will remain, this that, " you better get out

of Sahaja Yoga! It is not going to help us, at all. (Please note:

Shri Mataji here is not advocating to leave the job; She has

elsewhere stated that people must have jobs and support themselves,

but it is this over attention or `ambitiousness', whereas where is

the ambition for saving the humanity in comparison to this?)

>

> Thirdly, there are people who believe that, " This is my wife, this

is my beloved, this is this, " and all that nonsense. Why are you

here? For what? – Or " My children, my household, my mother, my

father, " all sorts of wretched people around. (Note: I am reminded

of the verse in the Bible that says, " Seek ye first the Kingdom of

God and his righteousness and all these things will be added unto

you " – Matthew 6:33. I believe Shri Mataji is saying that our

attention must be on the Kingdom of God first and everything else

will fall into place). She in fact says as much by the last sentence

in this paragraph…) " If you cannot rise above that, you cannot help

me, I'm sorry. You cannot help. "

>

> You have to be very, very strong people. You have to be people of

very great valour and great idealism and noble ideas.

>

> Some are like petty shopkeepers, who follow the platoons to sell

some things around. In Marathi it is called bazar bhunge.

>

> So now you meditate upon this point – that here we are to

establish the Universal Religion of Ascent. It's a `tremendous'

task! If I could do it alone, I would have done it. But I cannot. It

is only through you I have to do it. And you have a heritage. You

come from a very great birth, where you have this heritage. With

`that' heritage if I cannot manage you, I think I better give up

your leadership. I cannot do it.

>

> When we were fighting for our freedom, all of us were removed from

schools because we were in the missionary schools, and the

missionaries believe that Christ was born in England, so they would

not allow us to study in those schools. So we were all removed from

schools. We had no education for sometime. I could not pass my inter-

science for two years! I could not appear because they rusticated us

from colleges and schools. The Government rusticated us. (Dictionary

Definition of `rusticated' is: " to send into the country: to banish

for a time from town or college " ).

>

> But we were such proud children, very proud. I was of course very

much thick in it. I was never frightened. I was just an eighteen-

year-old girl. And I remember one day, some people came and told us

that your father is transferred from this jail to another jail. They

had such pride for us, all the people! So they had brought cars to

take us down. And they were so many there.

>

> And mother naturally was worried because I was a young girl. The

police used to torture me, used to give me shocks, and make my life

very miserable, beat me, and all that. So she was crying and she

told an old gentleman who was there that, " I'm worried about my

daughter. I do not want her to be tortured any more. " So, I went and

smiled at him, so he said, " No, you just don't. Stop it, now. You

just don't do it. It's not proper. "

>

> So my father, you see, took me aside. He said, " Don't listen to

this old johnny. He is now about to die, forget him. I would like

all my children to be sacrificed on the altar of freedom. If you are

doing it, I am a proud father and I will tell your mother to behave

herself. I am so proud of you! "

>

> Such atmosphere I have passed through. I had to give up my

college. I was absconding for eight months; the police were after my

life. I know what we have gone through. We were very young people,

eighteen years, you can imagine!

>

> And now when you have got the freedom of your Spirit, you must

seek the comfort of your Spirit.

>

> There are some people who are complainers, and this and that,

nonsense. They should not have come, or those who are Indians, they

should get out of Sahaja Yoga and leave us alone.

>

> But, those who know they have come here, not to enjoy themselves

only, but to make the whole world enjoy what you have got. To give

it to them. And for that one has to sacrifice. One has to bear the

pangs.

>

> How much I bear your pangs when you are caught up, when you have

troubles, when this and that. I've got blisters sometimes, from you,

everything. But I don't mind. Because it is my Life, my Mission, my

Existence, my everything – is for the purpose of the Emancipation of

Humanity. `Even' the last drop of my blood is for that. My

satisfactions are very different.

>

> Please remember you are born of very brave Mother. Please try to

rise. Be proud that you are doing such tremendous task. Have that

feeling of great valour. Then only, then only we can achieve results.

>

> You have seen so many wars, you have seen so many war pictures,

you have seen how people have fought, how they have sacrificed

themselves. And let us see what are we doing in this war.

>

> Just make your body your slave. Get out of the slavery of your

body, of your conditionings and your nonsensical ego.

>

> I'm sure, as a Mother I'm not so bad. But as a Father I think I

lack some things. Please, try to come up. So that I should feel that

I did not lack in my Fatherly attitude towards you, - that awe, that

understanding of a Father's expectations.

>

> This I'm not saying to you because this is some present situation,

because of you particularly, or for anything which is very – sort of-

present day problem. – None of these things.

>

> But is my announcement of this New Dimension into which we have to

rise. And as in the war, we have to declare, " Now Forward On. " In

the same way this is a declaration.

>

> In no way to degrade you, in no way to insult you, or to say

anything about anyone of you. But to just infuse that inspiration,

which led thousands and thousands and millions and billions of

people to sacrifice for a greater cause.

>

> So now, have respect for yourself. " Raise your heads! " You are the

ones who are going to fight. You are the ones who are responsible.

Prepare yourself! Prepare your body, prepare your mind. Be discreet.

>

> This is my ….I would not say request again. This is my order!

>

> May God Bless You!

>

> Let us all meditate now. There is no need for tying up your

Kundalinis, there is no need to give yourself bandhans. There's no

need `at all' to do anything. If you come up to that stage just now.

There is no need to raise your hands and tying up your Kundalini,

not necessary. Nothing is to be done. Your Kundalinis are already

tied up. Assume! Assume that situation, that's all, that " what you

are " ! – The Veeras (brave)! And not the stupid.

>

> May God Bless you all. May God Bless you. Respect yourself.

Respect.

>

> May God Bless you.

>

> There's nothing, nothing more important to me than to see you rise

to that level of understanding of your own values, and worth, and

discretion. You have to become sweet, nice people. `But,' very very

powerful! That you can control yourself, your tongues and your

things. The control, complete control of your self.

>

> May God Bless you again.

> Please meditate. Close your eyes.

>

> (Guru – Collection of Lectures 1979-1987)

>

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Dear Violet, Let me join my hands to chuck to thank u for the wonderful piece of shri mothers words....pls keep it up ... With Nirmal Love, Gautam.Chuck <chuckhennigan wrote: Dear Violet,Thank you so much for these words from Shri mataji. They have brought a tear to my eye.Love,Chuck , "Violet" <vtubb@b...> wrote:>> Dear All,> > The greatness of the person we know as Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi is revealed in this Seminar. She encourages Her Children to grow up, not just receive the Grace but also to use it to Grow to a higher spiritual level. She tells of Her experiences in Gandhi's Ashram and about the greatness of this man and the sacrifices that were made to

liberate India. It is interesting that not only has Shri Mataji universally opened the Spiritual Centre within Humans called the Sahasrara (Kingdom of God Within), but She (among others) has also been involved in the Struggle for Freedom of India, which is the country, which represents the Sahasrara. The `Sahasrara' of the Virata is located in the `Himalayas' in India. (http://adishakti.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=220)> > There is also much advice given which is valuable for all of us. (The notations in brackets are written by myself). > > So, please enjoy Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi's Wonderful Words to us all.> > Violet> > > Sahaja Yogis have to Ascend, sacrificing for the Greatest Cause…> (International Seminar, Bordi – Feb 6, 1985)> > I'm immensely joyous to see all of you here. I do not know what to

say from my side. The words get lost. They have no meaning. So many of you aspiring to ascend to that state where you would have complete joy, bliss, and peace. This is what I could give you. And a Mother is only happy when She can give whatever She has, to Her children. Her unhappiness, all Her restlessness, everything, is just to achieve that end, - to gift all that She has.> > I do not know how much to thank you people to go through all this to get to that treasure that you have within yourself. "Sahaja" is the only word I could think when I started to manifest Sahasrara opening. That's easily understood by everyone so far. But you have realized that it is today a different style of Yoga where first enlightenment is given, and then you are allowed to look after yourself. It was never done before. – It's just a venture of your Mother, which has worked out.> > Otherwise in the olden times, of course,

the concern of the Divine was to get people enlightened. And they did not know how to work it out. No incarnation ever tried to work it out in this fashion. But whenever they tried, they tried to have a very severe hardship for the seekers. Very sever hardships.> > I wonder how many of you have read the treatise of Buddha, when he used to travel with thousands of his disciples – not giving realisation. They were not realized souls, without feeling any joy around. With two clothes. Living in the jungles, - just two clothes. And the area where he visited – which I have seen myself – is terribly cold; chilly, absolutely chilly. And the clothes were not clothes actually; it was cloth covering their body. Sleeping on the open ground in a very severe winter, - or may be the summer. Without any shoes they were asked to walk, for miles together, miles together!> > If you go and see where Buddha has walked and

trodden, you will be surprised. Buddha was also young, he used to also walk. But his disciples used to walk much more, because he would go and station in a place, he would send his disciples, - there was not time to advertise, or to announce anything. So that he used to stay in one place, and the disciples used to go round the villages, ask for bhiksha, - meaning the alms, - to gather some food from the villages; cook one time, give part of it to Buddha, and the rest of that they used to eat.> > They would go, work out, get people from all the villages, whatever was possible, and would bring them to Buddha for a sermon. Such sacrifices! They've lived in huts, caves, in terrible darkness, - meditating. But they never got realisation. Very few got their realisation.> > There were people, who were sons of great princes, and princes, dukes, what you call, duchess as you call – all `very-very' rich

people. Women of very rich families followed him. And they walked for miles together with him in the thorny routes. – Because they felt that Buddha's work was of such universal importance; that they are the part and parcel of such a tremendous task; that they should be taking part in such a great work for humanity.> > This is not only in India, but even Viditama who started Zen system in Japan. In China, I was surprised, the amount of sacrifices the Saints had made; the way they lived! I mean if you see the way they were living in the conditions. You cannot imagine! And they ended up their lives like that. Working it out, without any proper guidance, because Buddha had died, there was no way out. They had to find their own ways. Then they found Mahayana and Shvetayana – all kinds of things.> > Even if you see other seekers in other religions, - like at the time of Christ. Where did they live? And after

the death of Christ it was even worse, because they were persecuted, they were killed, they were tortured, crucified! It happened with Moses also. His disciples were hounded, so they had to all run towards India. Imagine the distances! From that area to Kashmir, how they must have walked! How they must have lived, how they must have carried. And in 'thousands'! In `thousands', they came, to India.> > Because they realized that they are doing a `tremendous' task, something so `great' that they are supporting.> > In this country we had a struggle for freedom. I was part and parcel of that. My parents were part and parcel of that. They were rich people; quite rich I should say, from every standard. You will be amazed, my father burnt all his suits; they were stitched in England. My mother burnt all her sarees. They used to spin their own clothes, and wear them. > > My father sacrificed

`everything', every pie that he had, for the freedom struggle. He left nothing for us, not a single…. I should say, of course, our family being rich we had silver and gold and all that. But as far as all the cash money was concerned, was spent. And all this silver and gold also, thanks to English…. that they took away from us, and they returned us when they went back. That is how we had some silver and gold left in the family.> > `Everything', - all that is material, - was snatched away. And I know, we lived in beautiful houses, and then we shifted to huts and lived there. Sacrifices to the `Maximum'. And we were very happy about it. Very proud!> > We had only two changes. We used to wash our clothes, live like very poor people, sleeping on this kind of a thing (thin, rough floor mats). For my life, I remember that I never used to take a pillow. I never used chappals (footwear) for ages. I had only one

sweater made out of this kind of a material (very rough woollen). Till I passed out (of school) and I went to medical college, I had that sweater with me. I had only one coat `throughout' my education. When I was in Lahore, which is terribly cold and sometimes can be like London, it was worn out and finished.> > But we never grudged, and never grumbled, and never said that our father should have looked after us and done something, why did he just sacrifice everything for the country. `Never', `never', never'.> > But even today, when they see us, anywhere, they know we are the children of such a great man. They have tremendous respect for us.> > That quality was created, I should say, by Mahatma Gandhi. He made everybody so transformed into a new personality of `tremendous' sacrifice. `Tremendous'! You cannot imagine how people lived! All the money we had, `everything', that we had, all

conveniences, conveyance, all houses, everything was given up. – Not only by my father but so many of them.> > Otherwise we could not have got our freedom. To get our freedom, this country has sacrificed so much.> > I must say Gandhiji had a special charm. I do not know how he managed. He was like "touch of Midas" – touched anybody, he became transformed, you see. And he was an extremely strict man. – Very kind to me, the children. But he was an `extremely' strict man. He would not tolerate any nonsense at all!> > Throughout, - if you study in the way all these people were brought up, - not only for freedom or independence, but even before that, for spiritual life, `anywhere', - there is one thing is very common, is "Sacrifice": And the consciousness that you are doing something great. Consciousness that you are part and parcel of the Whole. Such a big thing, such a big work. It's a `noble'

cause. > > And then there was one thing very common. Very common among all of them: That the noble cause, the upliftment of the `noble' cause made them sacrifice in such a Sahaja manner. Much more than the Sahaja Yogis sometimes, who have got so much in Sahaja Yoga. They have got their joy; they have got their Spirit.> > I have seen with my own eyes, such people in this country, whom you may call legendary but I have seen it. Thousands of people were killed and butchered! Children died! Nobody shed tears. Nobody shed tears. But to feel that you are for such a `noble' cause itself gives you that joy. Joy, and that sense of involvement.> > And moreover, what I know about Mahatma Gandhi and other people, what I have seen, how they were. Everybody was not allowed to come in. And anybody who did even slightest thing less than – whether he was a King's son or he was anybody's daughter or anything, `any'

little thing spoilt, `anything', - he was chucked out. I have stayed in Gandhi's Ashram, so I know what it is, and that's why you know I can go through rigorous life. It is his training.> > All the children, above twelve years had to clean the whole of that Ashram area, which is I think in 50 acres of land. – Every morning. They had to clean their latrines. Also the latrines of the guests. – I have done it. And they were allowed only two dresses. And nothing could be kept, even you cannot see `even one' paper anywhere, any litter anywhere. So clean, spick and span. And the living places were so neat and tidy. It was all done with cowdung – completely with cowdung. `Everybody' had to take a bath, early in the morning at 4 O'clock, with cold water. Whether it was Jawahar Lal Nehru, Abul Kalam Azad, my father, of any age group, or a child. And 5 O'clock, Mahatma Gandhi was there for his lecture.> > (Please

don't raise your hands and raise your Kundalinis. Please be seated. That is not the way. Try to understand what I am talking).> > And then, early in the morning at 4 O'clock, you'll be surprised, getting up – for me it was alright, - and then to walk in those 50 acres of land to the centre of that hall – which was nothing but just an open space surrounded by some sort of huts where Gandhiji was living. To walk all the way after bath, after getting ready and all that. And snakes used to crawl along. Nobody was bitten, of course. I think the snakes understood that people were busy with the great job of freeing this great country.> > And we would sit, just like this, and snakes would be crawling. No lights were allowed. No lights, of any kind. We only used sunlight. And when Gandhiji would come – I mean sunlight was not there in the morning, at all – some lanterns were brought to put there. And we would see the

snakes crawling up.> > But I never heard anybody complaining, but like a `war', drove with such `passion'; everybody competing as to "what I can do, how I can be alright". Nobody `even thought' of comfort! Of course they were all about, say 50 years, up to 50 years of age or something like that, may be. In the Ashram mostly people were up to 50 years of age, that time.> > And I have seen with my own eyes the people who had huge cars in the house and things like that, they sold off, they threw it away. They used to come by train to Wardha station and walk down. Gandhiji would not see anybody coming even in a tonga (horse-cart). And they listened to him and obeyed him.> > I have seen many missionaries, though they are not up to the point, nothing very noble, but the way that's how they take people to task and people work it out for them. I have seen them. In India we have missionaries, and they

just `absolutely obediently' listened to the church, and did whatever they said.> > Now today we are doing, as you know, the greatest of greatest work.> > Because freedom is of course necessary, political freedom to talk even about God. We could not make even a small little needle at that time; we were not allowed, by the Government. So much oppressed. So we had to get out of the shackles of slavery. No doubt.> > But now I find we have another kind of slavery. A slavery of selfishness, self-oriented: "This is my comfort. I must have this. It should be enjoyable. I am enjoying, I'm this, I'm that". "You" should enjoy, otherwise it is not something great. I mean the whole thing should provide you some sort of a feeling, instead of you providing the feeling. Because people, I think, do not know what they are doing. What sort of a work they are doing. They do not want to come up to that level, of that

height, to see "What are you upto"? You are trying to save the whole world!> > This is one of the reasons Sahaja Yoga moves so slowly, because they see people who worry, who are worried about their comforts, this that, and also themselves are so lousy. There, is no smartness about them. No feeling of that `greatness' that they have to do. You have to be smart. If you know you are on the war, how you behave?> > I'm sure the mediocrity is much less now. Better people. I'm `sure' we will get better people now, much better people.> > They worry about little things of their family, this that. They worry about their own problems, and their jobs, and this and that. I mean, nobody could do like this to Gandhiji! I tell you, he would have slapped! Take it from me.> > It is as if to come to Sahaja Yoga means "solve your own problems"; that's all. Though you are – they are solved no doubt,

you are helped, God helps you so much. But how much are you doing about it?> > Of course we have great Sahaja Yogis, I do not deny that fact. We 'have' some. Much more than I had, - ever. And that is why I am very joyous about it. But the dedication we have. – We count every penny that we spend. How much we have got out of that penny, what did we do about it. This is not the way.> > Buddha never spent a single penny of his own. He got money from all his disciples. Built all these big things and all that. He never had even a public help from any body else..> > So rise now. You must rise above your petty small mind. Rise upto the point where you should know "you are going to save the whole humanity". If you cannot feel that, it is better to leave Sahaja Yoga. Sahaja Yoga is not meant for people who are lousy. In Marathi the word is (Gabale) Tukarama has said "Yerya gabadyache kama nohe".

It is not the work of the lousy.> > Shivaji himself, when he fought his war, he caught hold of people, the Sardaras and the dukes of that time they were. They gave up 'everything' they had, they gave up their lives, `everything'! Their children they sacrificed (did not have children)… they sacrificed `whatever' they had. Shivaji had no money to pay them. You must have heard lots of stories about Shivaji.> > While if you see how these Sahaja Yogis are in this world, Kshema comes first before Yoga. It's like that. It's your Mother's Love. I want my children to be comfortable. They are newly born babes. All right, they need comfort; they are to be looked after.> > But I cannot blackmail the Divine because the children are small. Can I? I am here to do the job of God Almighty. And when you are my children, - All right, His Grace will work, he will look after you. He will make you

grow.> > But `Grow' now. Grow. You have to grow. Get out of this small nonsense that you are.> > See your personality, how you live? Where is your attention? What do you think? Are you thinking about Sahaja Yoga? That is the most important thing for which you are chosen. > > I feel sometimes, as I was feeling all the time that you might be uncomfortable in many places. But I myself have seen the way you people have been in those places, most carelessly – the western Sahaja Yogis, - I was surprised! That way Indians are better in this respect. `And' some of the Indian Sahaja Yogis have been misbehaving in a very funny manner. It shocked me! The way they have been behaving, - shouting at people, creating problems. Some people come to see me, they talk to them in such a rude manner that they run away. You can talk to them sweetly. You have to be nice to them. Not to shout at people. All right, I

cannot meet everyone at every time at every convenience, all right. But that does not mean that you have the right to shout at others. This is so `petty' and so `low' that I do not know how far I have to come down.> > When you rise above all these petty things, you will develop that Divine discretion. That Divine discretion is the Real Blessing of God. All other blessings that you think is blessing, is no blessing at all. Unless and until you can grow, what is the blessing? Like a tree, which has known such a blessing that, " I have got rain". But out of that rain if you cannot grow, what is the use of having that rain on you?> > You have to be compassionate, beautiful, sensible people, who are 'highest' things on this earth. Take out your attention from all nonsense that you have been busy with. That is how you get possessed. That is how you get conditioned. Small-small things you see.> >

In India we have another problem. We cannot tolerate another person. If any person is doing good for Sahaja Yoga, immediately a group is built up. It is very common with Indians also. A group is built up to put him down.> > This was not done when Gandhiji was there. I do not know how it happens. It only happens with poor leadership; I think I don't have that leadership. At the time of Gandhiji he used to `blast' people out, `completely'!> > Cutting each other's throats, saying things behind the back, forming groups. Anybody who works out something nice, and I try to help that person to express himself, immediately a group comes up to press him.> > And there are hopelessly peripheral, useless Sahaja Yogis in West and in the East, who try to make a mess of things. They think they are big Gurus, big people. `Very small' people, chicken-hearted, I should say. And they think they are very big, great

people, because they can take good photographs, maybe, or that they can wear a dress in a particular manner, or something like that stupid stuff as they are. And they try to dominate others. Such people will be thrown out. Absolutely. No use having useless people in a machine like this.> > Today is the beginning of a New Era, of a New Era of people of very high qualities, whose Spirit has been enlightened. Let us all think about it.> > Now, you have to rule yourself. And you have to rule others through compassion, love and discretion.> > TODAY THAT'S THE BIG TIME THAT I DECLARE THAT IT IS THE UNIVERSAL RELIGION, THE NIRMALA RELIGION, WHICH IS FORMED OUT OF MY TEACHINGS OF LOVE.> > But is does not mean by any chance that you remain dwarfs. I am not going to spoil you. I am `not' going to spoil you, by keeping you dwarfy people. So, try to rise. Do not dominate others. Respect.

Respect each other. You are out for a very big work of Virata. (See > http://books.google.com.au/books?> hl=en & id=ihBL7GLCuEEC & dq=Virata & prev=http://books.google.com.au/books> %3Fq%3DVirata%26lr%3D & lpg=PA56 & pg=PA57 & sig=ML2EZ8Iz-> v1QECWHdEMmzCIIrR4 for understanding of Virata). How much you know about the Divine, nobody has known so far! But fix up yourself.> > I have known of a very great saint called Gagangadh Maharaj who has fallen down completely. If a person like him can fall down, you also can fall down, if you do not understand what is your worth, what is your value and what is the position you are given.> > So we have to, today, with all our love for our Mother, have to decide in our heart that we are going to have large heartedness, of sacrifices.> > What

have we sacrificed so far? Just think of it. Have we? Did we sacrifice anything?> > Please, try to understand that I have to use you the great souls, to save the humanity. You must grow, you must grow, you have to grow.> > On money points also people are so wretched. They make money. They save money. In America I was surprised the way people cheated me of money! Thousands! In India also there is, it is a very common practice.> > Then, if you have career mindedness, and you are very ambitious. "How my job will remain, this that," you better get out of Sahaja Yoga! It is not going to help us, at all. (Please note: Shri Mataji here is not advocating to leave the job; She has elsewhere stated that people must have jobs and support themselves, but it is this over attention or `ambitiousness', whereas where is the ambition for saving the humanity in comparison to this?) > > Thirdly, there

are people who believe that, "This is my wife, this is my beloved, this is this," and all that nonsense. Why are you here? For what? – Or "My children, my household, my mother, my father," all sorts of wretched people around. (Note: I am reminded of the verse in the Bible that says, "Seek ye first the Kingdom of God and his righteousness and all these things will be added unto you" – Matthew 6:33. I believe Shri Mataji is saying that our attention must be on the Kingdom of God first and everything else will fall into place). She in fact says as much by the last sentence in this paragraph…) "If you cannot rise above that, you cannot help me, I'm sorry. You cannot help."> > You have to be very, very strong people. You have to be people of very great valour and great idealism and noble ideas.> > Some are like petty shopkeepers, who follow the platoons to sell some things around. In Marathi it is called bazar

bhunge.> > So now you meditate upon this point – that here we are to establish the Universal Religion of Ascent. It's a `tremendous' task! If I could do it alone, I would have done it. But I cannot. It is only through you I have to do it. And you have a heritage. You come from a very great birth, where you have this heritage. With `that' heritage if I cannot manage you, I think I better give up your leadership. I cannot do it.> > When we were fighting for our freedom, all of us were removed from schools because we were in the missionary schools, and the missionaries believe that Christ was born in England, so they would not allow us to study in those schools. So we were all removed from schools. We had no education for sometime. I could not pass my inter-science for two years! I could not appear because they rusticated us from colleges and schools. The Government rusticated us. (Dictionary Definition of

`rusticated' is: "to send into the country: to banish for a time from town or college").> > But we were such proud children, very proud. I was of course very much thick in it. I was never frightened. I was just an eighteen-year-old girl. And I remember one day, some people came and told us that your father is transferred from this jail to another jail. They had such pride for us, all the people! So they had brought cars to take us down. And they were so many there.> > And mother naturally was worried because I was a young girl. The police used to torture me, used to give me shocks, and make my life very miserable, beat me, and all that. So she was crying and she told an old gentleman who was there that, "I'm worried about my daughter. I do not want her to be tortured any more." So, I went and smiled at him, so he said, "No, you just don't. Stop it, now. You just don't do it. It's not proper.">

> So my father, you see, took me aside. He said, "Don't listen to this old johnny. He is now about to die, forget him. I would like all my children to be sacrificed on the altar of freedom. If you are doing it, I am a proud father and I will tell your mother to behave herself. I am so proud of you!"> > Such atmosphere I have passed through. I had to give up my college. I was absconding for eight months; the police were after my life. I know what we have gone through. We were very young people, eighteen years, you can imagine!> > And now when you have got the freedom of your Spirit, you must seek the comfort of your Spirit.> > There are some people who are complainers, and this and that, nonsense. They should not have come, or those who are Indians, they should get out of Sahaja Yoga and leave us alone.> > But, those who know they have come here, not to enjoy themselves only,

but to make the whole world enjoy what you have got. To give it to them. And for that one has to sacrifice. One has to bear the pangs.> > How much I bear your pangs when you are caught up, when you have troubles, when this and that. I've got blisters sometimes, from you, everything. But I don't mind. Because it is my Life, my Mission, my Existence, my everything – is for the purpose of the Emancipation of Humanity. `Even' the last drop of my blood is for that. My satisfactions are very different.> > Please remember you are born of very brave Mother. Please try to rise. Be proud that you are doing such tremendous task. Have that feeling of great valour. Then only, then only we can achieve results.> > You have seen so many wars, you have seen so many war pictures, you have seen how people have fought, how they have sacrificed themselves. And let us see what are we doing in this war.> >

Just make your body your slave. Get out of the slavery of your body, of your conditionings and your nonsensical ego.> > I'm sure, as a Mother I'm not so bad. But as a Father I think I lack some things. Please, try to come up. So that I should feel that I did not lack in my Fatherly attitude towards you, - that awe, that understanding of a Father's expectations.> > This I'm not saying to you because this is some present situation, because of you particularly, or for anything which is very – sort of-present day problem. – None of these things. > > But is my announcement of this New Dimension into which we have to rise. And as in the war, we have to declare, "Now Forward On." In the same way this is a declaration. > > In no way to degrade you, in no way to insult you, or to say anything about anyone of you. But to just infuse that inspiration, which led thousands and thousands and millions

and billions of people to sacrifice for a greater cause.> > So now, have respect for yourself. "Raise your heads!" You are the ones who are going to fight. You are the ones who are responsible. Prepare yourself! Prepare your body, prepare your mind. Be discreet.> > This is my ….I would not say request again. This is my order!> > May God Bless You!> > Let us all meditate now. There is no need for tying up your Kundalinis, there is no need to give yourself bandhans. There's no need `at all' to do anything. If you come up to that stage just now. There is no need to raise your hands and tying up your Kundalini, not necessary. Nothing is to be done. Your Kundalinis are already tied up. Assume! Assume that situation, that's all, that "what you are"! – The Veeras (brave)! And not the stupid.> > May God Bless you all. May God Bless you. Respect yourself. Respect.> >

May God Bless you.> > There's nothing, nothing more important to me than to see you rise to that level of understanding of your own values, and worth, and discretion. You have to become sweet, nice people. `But,' very very powerful! That you can control yourself, your tongues and your things. The control, complete control of your self.> > May God Bless you again.> Please meditate. Close your eyes.> > (Guru – Collection of Lectures 1979-1987)>

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