Guest guest Posted November 26, 2005 Report Share Posted November 26, 2005 Dear Danny and Carol, First of all, we welcome you to our Sahaja Yoga Forum Family. All persons like you who ask sincere questions are especially welcome, as you are Seekers of Truth. You are also asking genuine questions and are wanting answers and that is a good sign of your spiritual quest. i did not accept Shri Mataji as an Incarnation until i compared Her Teachings with Jesus's Teachings, as i had been brought up as a Christian. i had been looking for the Holy Spirit that Jesus promised would come.... 'the Comforter'.... and Shri Mataji has satisfied every Prophecy and Teaching of Jesus in that respect and most importantly, She has more than fulfilled any expectations within my being that i have had with regards to a 'Comforter'. In comparing Shri Mataji with what Jesus has said, i have also found that what they both teach are in complete agreement with each other. That is why i could accept Shri Mataji and have confidence in Her. (If you read the Aquarian Gospel, of Jesus the Christ, that becomes even more apparent). i also believe that if an individual 'tests everything like a scientist' as Shri Mataji has requested Seekers to do, that that individual can then be assured that an Incarnation or a Prophet is genuine. Danny and Carol, please do not feel you have done anything wrong by asking questions, because you have not. Please continue on with us on our Collective Spiritual Journey where we can all enrich each other's spiritual journey together. Warm regards, Violet In , " danny weaver " <cdweaver32@h...> wrote: > > Dear Violet, > > If Shri Mataji is truly the incarnation of the HOLY SPIRIT she would not > want you to meditate out of the group, for being open minded, helpful and > trying to clear up misundertstandings. ( So the Yogi's not understanding > themselves and maybe they are also in self exile) That would have left many > people out when Jesus walked the Earth. Anotherwards they think you are > causing yourself to not be allowed to be in group because you are open > minded and trying to hlep others, and yourself, and not being biased. You > are standing ground but are willing to look at ALL sides to be sure, and for > that, you are closed out of group? > > > Many people became believers but not at first, through people like you, who > tried to help them, and work with them, Jesus has been ever patient not > coming back to judge the world, as He wants to give EVERY soul ample time to > see the TRUTH.. If He shut out everyone, who EARNESTLY was seeking and > trying to learn, it would be sinful and No one would have been saved. You > are correct like a scientist we owe it to ourselves, ot check out all, to be > SURE, as this is important, to know the TRUTH> It is an important issue. Not > everyone blieves exactly the SAME in Sahja Yooga anyway, many do not see > Shri mataji as par t of the Godhead, but truly a great Prophet of her time > sent for a reasoon. Some do and some do not. They are stil attending > meditation, and are stil Yogis. Probably themselves waiting for the > Sahrarstara ( never could spell this) to open as they wonder why they cannot > see what others see, maybe all other chakras opened but that one, whatever, > only God knows. Some say the Shri Mataji does not want everyone to see her > as God, that was told to me too, she reveals herself to who she wishes, in > different ways.) So actually even within the group we have some differnt > thoughts on this, and they are trying to understand. ( Maybe I am wrong and > they are just going along, and not seeking, not sure) I am not trying to > mean here, on this forum, am jsut trying to explain my thoughts ( actually > my husband and I on this whole thing and sort it out in OUR minds.) VERY > important to get this right, because if she is NOT God ( Or Holy Spirit) > then we can VENERATE HER LIKE THE SAINTS but NOT WORSHIP her there is a > difference. > Venerating shows respet to a high entity, but ONLY God and the God head > would be worshipped. > > Well anyway, sorry, for trying to get answers, and sorry Violet if this > happened because of me. I will not write anymore as not to upset anyone. ( > Will search on our own.) As it looks like if we were still in our collective > we would also be labeled, " Self Exiled " i guess. For questioning and > searching and being open minded, and thinking and looking at ALL sides. For > being truthful, and speaking up on our thoughts. Everyone loved us when we > sat back and never questioned. Or never stated our thoughts. I always saw > Yogis and yoginis as being as saints, and they would be willing to help that > one lost sheep, that maybe went astray. > > LOVE > > Danny and Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2005 Report Share Posted November 26, 2005 Dear Violet, Thank you. Have not read the Aquarian Bible, so will try to find one. Is that a Bible purchased from the metaphysical store or a Book Store? Do beleive and think we can all agree, things are changing around us, rapidly. Danny and Carol > " Violet " <vtubb > > > Dear Danny & Carol.... >Sat, 26 Nov 2005 22:44:00 -0000 > >Dear Danny and Carol, > >First of all, we welcome you to our Sahaja Yoga Forum Family. All >persons like you who ask sincere questions are especially welcome, >as you are Seekers of Truth. You are also asking genuine questions >and are wanting answers and that is a good sign of your spiritual >quest. > >i did not accept Shri Mataji as an Incarnation until i compared Her >Teachings with Jesus's Teachings, as i had been brought up as a >Christian. i had been looking for the Holy Spirit that Jesus >promised would come.... 'the Comforter'.... and Shri Mataji has >satisfied every Prophecy and Teaching of Jesus in that respect and >most importantly, She has more than fulfilled any expectations >within my being that i have had with regards to a 'Comforter'. > >In comparing Shri Mataji with what Jesus has said, i have also found >that what they both teach are in complete agreement with each other. >That is why i could accept Shri Mataji and have confidence in Her. >(If you read the Aquarian Gospel, of Jesus the Christ, that becomes >even more apparent). > >i also believe that if an individual 'tests everything like a >scientist' as Shri Mataji has requested Seekers to do, that that >individual can then be assured that an Incarnation or a Prophet is >genuine. > >Danny and Carol, please do not feel you have done anything wrong by >asking questions, because you have not. Please continue on with us >on our Collective Spiritual Journey where we can all enrich each >other's spiritual journey together. > >Warm regards, >Violet > >In , " danny weaver " ><cdweaver32@h...> wrote: > > > > Dear Violet, > > > > If Shri Mataji is truly the incarnation of the HOLY SPIRIT she >would not > > want you to meditate out of the group, for being open minded, >helpful and > > trying to clear up misundertstandings. ( So the Yogi's not >understanding > > themselves and maybe they are also in self exile) That would have >left many > > people out when Jesus walked the Earth. Anotherwards they think >you are > > causing yourself to not be allowed to be in group because you are >open > > minded and trying to hlep others, and yourself, and not being >biased. You > > are standing ground but are willing to look at ALL sides to be >sure, and for > > that, you are closed out of group? > > > > > > Many people became believers but not at first, through people like >you, who > > tried to help them, and work with them, Jesus has been ever >patient not > > coming back to judge the world, as He wants to give EVERY soul >ample time to > > see the TRUTH.. If He shut out everyone, who EARNESTLY was >seeking and > > trying to learn, it would be sinful and No one would have been >saved. You > > are correct like a scientist we owe it to ourselves, ot check out >all, to be > > SURE, as this is important, to know the TRUTH> It is an important >issue. Not > > everyone blieves exactly the SAME in Sahja Yooga anyway, many do >not see > > Shri mataji as par t of the Godhead, but truly a great Prophet of >her time > > sent for a reasoon. Some do and some do not. They are stil >attending > > meditation, and are stil Yogis. Probably themselves waiting for >the > > Sahrarstara ( never could spell this) to open as they wonder why >they cannot > > see what others see, maybe all other chakras opened but that one, >whatever, > > only God knows. Some say the Shri Mataji does not want everyone to >see her > > as God, that was told to me too, she reveals herself to who she >wishes, in > > different ways.) So actually even within the group we have some >differnt > > thoughts on this, and they are trying to understand. ( Maybe I am >wrong and > > they are just going along, and not seeking, not sure) I am not >trying to > > mean here, on this forum, am jsut trying to explain my thoughts ( >actually > > my husband and I on this whole thing and sort it out in OUR >minds.) VERY > > important to get this right, because if she is NOT God ( Or Holy >Spirit) > > then we can VENERATE HER LIKE THE SAINTS but NOT WORSHIP her there >is a > > difference. > > Venerating shows respet to a high entity, but ONLY God and the God >head > > would be worshipped. > > > > Well anyway, sorry, for trying to get answers, and sorry Violet if >this > > happened because of me. I will not write anymore as not to upset >anyone. ( > > Will search on our own.) As it looks like if we were still in our >collective > > we would also be labeled, " Self Exiled " i guess. For questioning >and > > searching and being open minded, and thinking and looking at ALL >sides. For > > being truthful, and speaking up on our thoughts. Everyone loved us >when we > > sat back and never questioned. Or never stated our thoughts. I >always saw > > Yogis and yoginis as being as saints, and they would be willing to >help that > > one lost sheep, that maybe went astray. > > > > LOVE > > > > Danny and Carol > > > > > " Violet " <vtubb@b...> > > > > > > > > > The nature of my so-called 'self- >exile' > > >from the Local Collective.... > > >Sat, 26 Nov 2005 01:14:46 -0000 > > > > > >Dear Forum Family, > > > > > >I met up with a dear Sahaja Yogini friend and have learned that >my > > >'situation' is known throughout the Australian collective and >they have > > >`labelled' it as `self-exile'. I have never heard of such a thing >as > > >`self-exile'. > > > > > >I want to be part of the Local Collective.... however.... because >i give > > >myself the God-given right of freedom of expression on these >websites, and > > >write truthfully from my heart about what Shri Mataji has taught, >rumours > > >are being spread about me. The rumours say that we are >criticizing > > >others.... to which I stated, emphatically, that we are not. We >are > > >addressing issues that everyone here is bringing forward.... >issues that > > >need to be talked about, to help each other grow spiritually. To >the best > > >of our ability, we do our utmost to back up everything we say, >with what > > >Shri Mataji and the other Incarnations have said. > > > > > >The rank and file Sahaja Yogis are aware of these forums now. >However, they > > >are seriously taking into consideration the word of the managers >of Sahaja > > >Yoga that these forums `are not quite right, somehow.' I would >like the > > >rank and file Sahaja Yogis to come to these websites with an open >heart and > > >mind and really make an effort to understand what we are saying. > > > > > >From talking to my dear friend, it was obvious that she never >really read, > > >with an open heart and mind, what has been written on these web >sites. > > >Taking into consideration the negative comments that " managerial " >Sahaja > > >Yogis are making about these websites to rank and file SY's, it >will be > > >rare for a SY to really check out these websites without bias. It >will be > > >rare for them to really come to these websites with an open heart >and mind > > >and really read and decide for themselves, whether what is said >is in > > >accordance with what Shri Mataji and the other Incarnations have >taught. > > >After all, Shri Mataji has said that we must test everything like >a > > >scientist. A scientist does not take the word of anyone else, but >tests the > > >content against a set standard and that is the proof. Any Sahaja >Yogi can > > >do exactly that; test what is written on these websites, using >the set > > >standard, which is the teachings of Shri Mataji and other >Incarnations. > > > > > >I asked whether i might attend my dear yogini friend's place for >her weekly > > >meditation, however she stated that I must change some things >first, before > > >I can come. I explained to her that I only come to meditate and >not to talk > > >about the forums. > > > > > >Apparently, it is my `self-imposed-exile' that prevents me from >going to > > >her place, even though i am specifically asking to attend the >local > > >collective meditation meeting. > > > > > >My friend and I `agreed to disagree'....as there was no other >option, but > > >we both believe that the Truth will come out one day. We gave >each other > > >loving hugs with hope and also some sadness in our hearts. > > > > > >With love, > > >Violet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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