Guest guest Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 Dear Danny & Carol, You are so right that everything is changing around us so rapidly these days. We only have to look around us. These are very significant times, spiritually. You can read the Aquarian Gospel over the Internet at: (http://home.netcom.com/~mokeeffe/AquarianGospelSinglePage.htm) (http://reluctant-messenger.com/aquarian_gospel.htm) You can also buy the Book over the Internet at: (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/188643316X/104- 9960131-2515121?v=glance) You would also be able to buy it at a Metaphysical Book Shop or order it from an Angus & Robertsons Book Shop. We have shared material from the Aquarian Gospel over the Internet at: (/message/4427) where Jesus talks about the secret place where man meets God... (/message/4618) where Jesus speaks about the Kingdom of God within.... (/message/4433) where Jesus explains that the Kingdom of God has an outer and an inner form.... If you ever wondered what Jesus did during his " Lost Years " that we never heard about before, you will now know when you read about it in the Aquarian Gospel of Jesus, the Christ. Warm regards, Violet , " danny weaver " <cdweaver32@h...> wrote: > > Dear Violet, > > Thank you. Have not read the Aquarian Bible, so will try to find one. Is > that a Bible purchased from the metaphysical store or a Book Store? Do > beleive and think we can all agree, things are changing around us, rapidly. > > Danny and Carol , " danny weaver " <cdweaver32@h...> wrote: > > Dear Violet, > > Thank you. Have not read the Aquarian Bible, so will try to find one. Is > that a Bible purchased from the metaphysical store or a Book Store? Do > beleive and think we can all agree, things are changing around us, rapidly. > > Danny and Carol > > > > " Violet " <vtubb@b...> > > > > > > Dear Danny & Carol.... > >Sat, 26 Nov 2005 22:44:00 -0000 > > > >Dear Danny and Carol, > > > >First of all, we welcome you to our Sahaja Yoga Forum Family. All > >persons like you who ask sincere questions are especially welcome, > >as you are Seekers of Truth. You are also asking genuine questions > >and are wanting answers and that is a good sign of your spiritual > >quest. > > > >i did not accept Shri Mataji as an Incarnation until i compared Her > >Teachings with Jesus's Teachings, as i had been brought up as a > >Christian. i had been looking for the Holy Spirit that Jesus > >promised would come.... 'the Comforter'.... and Shri Mataji has > >satisfied every Prophecy and Teaching of Jesus in that respect and > >most importantly, She has more than fulfilled any expectations > >within my being that i have had with regards to a 'Comforter'. > > > >In comparing Shri Mataji with what Jesus has said, i have also found > >that what they both teach are in complete agreement with each other. > >That is why i could accept Shri Mataji and have confidence in Her. > >(If you read the Aquarian Gospel, of Jesus the Christ, that becomes > >even more apparent). > > > >i also believe that if an individual 'tests everything like a > >scientist' as Shri Mataji has requested Seekers to do, that that > >individual can then be assured that an Incarnation or a Prophet is > >genuine. > > > >Danny and Carol, please do not feel you have done anything wrong by > >asking questions, because you have not. Please continue on with us > >on our Collective Spiritual Journey where we can all enrich each > >other's spiritual journey together. > > > >Warm regards, > >Violet > > > >In , " danny weaver " > ><cdweaver32@h...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Violet, > > > > > > If Shri Mataji is truly the incarnation of the HOLY SPIRIT she > >would not > > > want you to meditate out of the group, for being open minded, > >helpful and > > > trying to clear up misundertstandings. ( So the Yogi's not > >understanding > > > themselves and maybe they are also in self exile) That would have > >left many > > > people out when Jesus walked the Earth. Anotherwards they think > >you are > > > causing yourself to not be allowed to be in group because you are > >open > > > minded and trying to hlep others, and yourself, and not being > >biased. You > > > are standing ground but are willing to look at ALL sides to be > >sure, and for > > > that, you are closed out of group? > > > > > > > > > Many people became believers but not at first, through people like > >you, who > > > tried to help them, and work with them, Jesus has been ever > >patient not > > > coming back to judge the world, as He wants to give EVERY soul > >ample time to > > > see the TRUTH.. If He shut out everyone, who EARNESTLY was > >seeking and > > > trying to learn, it would be sinful and No one would have been > >saved. You > > > are correct like a scientist we owe it to ourselves, ot check out > >all, to be > > > SURE, as this is important, to know the TRUTH> It is an important > >issue. Not > > > everyone blieves exactly the SAME in Sahja Yooga anyway, many do > >not see > > > Shri mataji as par t of the Godhead, but truly a great Prophet of > >her time > > > sent for a reasoon. Some do and some do not. They are stil > >attending > > > meditation, and are stil Yogis. Probably themselves waiting for > >the > > > Sahrarstara ( never could spell this) to open as they wonder why > >they cannot > > > see what others see, maybe all other chakras opened but that one, > >whatever, > > > only God knows. Some say the Shri Mataji does not want everyone to > >see her > > > as God, that was told to me too, she reveals herself to who she > >wishes, in > > > different ways.) So actually even within the group we have some > >differnt > > > thoughts on this, and they are trying to understand. ( Maybe I am > >wrong and > > > they are just going along, and not seeking, not sure) I am not > >trying to > > > mean here, on this forum, am jsut trying to explain my thoughts ( > >actually > > > my husband and I on this whole thing and sort it out in OUR > >minds.) VERY > > > important to get this right, because if she is NOT God ( Or Holy > >Spirit) > > > then we can VENERATE HER LIKE THE SAINTS but NOT WORSHIP her there > >is a > > > difference. > > > Venerating shows respet to a high entity, but ONLY God and the God > >head > > > would be worshipped. > > > > > > Well anyway, sorry, for trying to get answers, and sorry Violet if > >this > > > happened because of me. I will not write anymore as not to upset > >anyone. ( > > > Will search on our own.) As it looks like if we were still in our > >collective > > > we would also be labeled, " Self Exiled " i guess. For questioning > >and > > > searching and being open minded, and thinking and looking at ALL > >sides. For > > > being truthful, and speaking up on our thoughts. Everyone loved us > >when we > > > sat back and never questioned. Or never stated our thoughts. I > >always saw > > > Yogis and yoginis as being as saints, and they would be willing to > >help that > > > one lost sheep, that maybe went astray. > > > > > > LOVE > > > > > > Danny and Carol > > > > > > > " Violet " <vtubb@b...> > > > > > > > > > > > > The nature of my so- called 'self- > >exile' > > > >from the Local Collective.... > > > >Sat, 26 Nov 2005 01:14:46 -0000 > > > > > > > >Dear Forum Family, > > > > > > > >I met up with a dear Sahaja Yogini friend and have learned that > >my > > > >'situation' is known throughout the Australian collective and > >they have > > > >`labelled' it as `self-exile'. I have never heard of such a thing > >as > > > >`self-exile'. > > > > > > > >I want to be part of the Local Collective.... however.... because > >i give > > > >myself the God-given right of freedom of expression on these > >websites, and > > > >write truthfully from my heart about what Shri Mataji has taught, > >rumours > > > >are being spread about me. The rumours say that we are > >criticizing > > > >others.... to which I stated, emphatically, that we are not. We > >are > > > >addressing issues that everyone here is bringing forward.... > >issues that > > > >need to be talked about, to help each other grow spiritually. To > >the best > > > >of our ability, we do our utmost to back up everything we say, > >with what > > > >Shri Mataji and the other Incarnations have said. > > > > > > > >The rank and file Sahaja Yogis are aware of these forums now. > >However, they > > > >are seriously taking into consideration the word of the managers > >of Sahaja > > > >Yoga that these forums `are not quite right, somehow.' I would > >like the > > > >rank and file Sahaja Yogis to come to these websites with an open > >heart and > > > >mind and really make an effort to understand what we are saying. > > > > > > > >From talking to my dear friend, it was obvious that she never > >really read, > > > >with an open heart and mind, what has been written on these web > >sites. > > > >Taking into consideration the negative comments that " managerial " > >Sahaja > > > >Yogis are making about these websites to rank and file SY's, it > >will be > > > >rare for a SY to really check out these websites without bias. It > >will be > > > >rare for them to really come to these websites with an open heart > >and mind > > > >and really read and decide for themselves, whether what is said > >is in > > > >accordance with what Shri Mataji and the other Incarnations have > >taught. > > > >After all, Shri Mataji has said that we must test everything like > >a > > > >scientist. A scientist does not take the word of anyone else, but > >tests the > > > >content against a set standard and that is the proof. Any Sahaja > >Yogi can > > > >do exactly that; test what is written on these websites, using > >the set > > > >standard, which is the teachings of Shri Mataji and other > >Incarnations. > > > > > > > >I asked whether i might attend my dear yogini friend's place for > >her weekly > > > >meditation, however she stated that I must change some things > >first, before > > > >I can come. I explained to her that I only come to meditate and > >not to talk > > > >about the forums. > > > > > > > >Apparently, it is my `self-imposed-exile' that prevents me from > >going to > > > >her place, even though i am specifically asking to attend the > >local > > > >collective meditation meeting. > > > > > > > >My friend and I `agreed to disagree'....as there was no other > >option, but > > > >we both believe that the Truth will come out one day. We gave > >each other > > > >loving hugs with hope and also some sadness in our hearts. > > > > > > > >With love, > > > >Violet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 Dear Violet, Thank you. Will check out the sites first. Carol > " Violet " <vtubb > > > Re: The Aquarian Gospel of Jesus the >Christ.... >Sun, 27 Nov 2005 06:59:58 -0000 > >Dear Danny & Carol, > >You are so right that everything is changing around us so rapidly these >days. We only have to look around us. These are very significant times, >spiritually. > >You can read the Aquarian Gospel over the Internet at: > >(http://home.netcom.com/~mokeeffe/AquarianGospelSinglePage.htm) > >(http://home.netcom.com/~mokeeffe/AquarianGospelSinglePage.htm) > > >You can also buy the Book over the Internet at: > >(http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/188643316X/104- >9960131-2515121?v==glance) > >You would also be able to buy it at a Metaphysical Book Shop or order it >from an Angus & Robertsons Book Shop. > >We have shared material from the Aquarian Gospel over the Internet at: > >(/message/4427) >where Jesus talks about the secret place where man meets God... > >(/message/4618) >where Jesus speaks about the Kingdom of God within.... > >(/message/4433) >where Jesus explains that the Kingdom of God has an outer and an inner >form.... > >If you ever wondered what Jesus did during his " Lost Years " that we never >heard about before, you will now know when you read about it in the >Aquarian Gospel of Jesus, the Christ. > >Warm regards, >Violet > > > , " danny weaver " ><cdweaver32@h...> wrote: > > > > Dear Violet, > > > > Thank you. Have not read the Aquarian Bible, so will try to find >one. Is > > that a Bible purchased from the metaphysical store or a Book >Store? Do > > beleive and think we can all agree, things are changing around us, >rapidly. > > > > Danny and Carol > > > > > > > " Violet " <vtubb@b...> > > > > > > > > > Dear Danny & Carol.... > > >Sat, 26 Nov 2005 22:44:00 -0000 > > > > > >Dear Danny and Carol, > > > > > >First of all, we welcome you to our Sahaja Yoga Forum Family. All > > >persons like you who ask sincere questions are especially welcome, > > >as you are Seekers of Truth. You are also asking genuine questions > > >and are wanting answers and that is a good sign of your spiritual > > >quest. > > > > > >i did not accept Shri Mataji as an Incarnation until i compared >Her > > >Teachings with Jesus's Teachings, as i had been brought up as a > > >Christian. i had been looking for the Holy Spirit that Jesus > > >promised would come.... 'the Comforter'.... and Shri Mataji has > > >satisfied every Prophecy and Teaching of Jesus in that respect and > > >most importantly, She has more than fulfilled any expectations > > >within my being that i have had with regards to a 'Comforter'. > > > > > >In comparing Shri Mataji with what Jesus has said, i have also >found > > >that what they both teach are in complete agreement with each >other. > > >That is why i could accept Shri Mataji and have confidence in Her. > > >(If you read the Aquarian Gospel, of Jesus the Christ, that >becomes > > >even more apparent). > > > > > >i also believe that if an individual 'tests everything like a > > >scientist' as Shri Mataji has requested Seekers to do, that that > > >individual can then be assured that an Incarnation or a Prophet is > > >genuine. > > > > > >Danny and Carol, please do not feel you have done anything wrong >by > > >asking questions, because you have not. Please continue on with us > > >on our Collective Spiritual Journey where we can all enrich each > > >other's spiritual journey together. > > > > > >Warm regards, > > >Violet > > > > > >In , " danny weaver " > > ><cdweaver32@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Violet, > > > > > > > > If Shri Mataji is truly the incarnation of the HOLY SPIRIT she > > >would not > > > > want you to meditate out of the group, for being open minded, > > >helpful and > > > > trying to clear up misundertstandings. ( So the Yogi's not > > >understanding > > > > themselves and maybe they are also in self exile) That would >have > > >left many > > > > people out when Jesus walked the Earth. Anotherwards they think > > >you are > > > > causing yourself to not be allowed to be in group because you >are > > >open > > > > minded and trying to hlep others, and yourself, and not being > > >biased. You > > > > are standing ground but are willing to look at ALL sides to be > > >sure, and for > > > > that, you are closed out of group? > > > > > > > > > > > > Many people became believers but not at first, through people >like > > >you, who > > > > tried to help them, and work with them, Jesus has been ever > > >patient not > > > > coming back to judge the world, as He wants to give EVERY soul > > >ample time to > > > > see the TRUTH.. If He shut out everyone, who EARNESTLY was > > >seeking and > > > > trying to learn, it would be sinful and No one would have been > > >saved. You > > > > are correct like a scientist we owe it to ourselves, ot check >out > > >all, to be > > > > SURE, as this is important, to know the TRUTH> It is an >important > > >issue. Not > > > > everyone blieves exactly the SAME in Sahja Yooga anyway, many >do > > >not see > > > > Shri mataji as par t of the Godhead, but truly a great Prophet >of > > >her time > > > > sent for a reasoon. Some do and some do not. They are stil > > >attending > > > > meditation, and are stil Yogis. Probably themselves waiting for > > >the > > > > Sahrarstara ( never could spell this) to open as they wonder >why > > >they cannot > > > > see what others see, maybe all other chakras opened but that >one, > > >whatever, > > > > only God knows. Some say the Shri Mataji does not want >everyone to > > >see her > > > > as God, that was told to me too, she reveals herself to who she > > >wishes, in > > > > different ways.) So actually even within the group we have some > > >differnt > > > > thoughts on this, and they are trying to understand. ( Maybe I >am > > >wrong and > > > > they are just going along, and not seeking, not sure) I am not > > >trying to > > > > mean here, on this forum, am jsut trying to explain my >thoughts ( > > >actually > > > > my husband and I on this whole thing and sort it out in OUR > > >minds.) VERY > > > > important to get this right, because if she is NOT God ( Or >Holy > > >Spirit) > > > > then we can VENERATE HER LIKE THE SAINTS but NOT WORSHIP her >there > > >is a > > > > difference. > > > > Venerating shows respet to a high entity, but ONLY God and the >God > > >head > > > > would be worshipped. > > > > > > > > Well anyway, sorry, for trying to get answers, and sorry >Violet if > > >this > > > > happened because of me. I will not write anymore as not to >upset > > >anyone. ( > > > > Will search on our own.) As it looks like if we were still in >our > > >collective > > > > we would also be labeled, " Self Exiled " i guess. For >questioning > > >and > > > > searching and being open minded, and thinking and looking at >ALL > > >sides. For > > > > being truthful, and speaking up on our thoughts. Everyone >loved us > > >when we > > > > sat back and never questioned. Or never stated our thoughts. I > > >always saw > > > > Yogis and yoginis as being as saints, and they would be >willing to > > >help that > > > > one lost sheep, that maybe went astray. > > > > > > > > LOVE > > > > > > > > Danny and Carol > > > > > > > > > " Violet " <vtubb@b...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The nature of my so- >called 'self- > > >exile' > > > > >from the Local Collective.... > > > > >Sat, 26 Nov 2005 01:14:46 -0000 > > > > > > > > > >Dear Forum Family, > > > > > > > > > >I met up with a dear Sahaja Yogini friend and have learned >that > > >my > > > > >'situation' is known throughout the Australian collective and > > >they have > > > > >`labelled' it as `self-exile'. I have never heard of such a >thing > > >as > > > > >`self-exile'. > > > > > > > > > >I want to be part of the Local Collective.... however.... >because > > >i give > > > > >myself the God-given right of freedom of expression on these > > >websites, and > > > > >write truthfully from my heart about what Shri Mataji has >taught, > > >rumours > > > > >are being spread about me. The rumours say that we are > > >criticizing > > > > >others.... to which I stated, emphatically, that we are not. >We > > >are > > > > >addressing issues that everyone here is bringing forward.... > > >issues that > > > > >need to be talked about, to help each other grow spiritually. >To > > >the best > > > > >of our ability, we do our utmost to back up everything we say, > > >with what > > > > >Shri Mataji and the other Incarnations have said. > > > > > > > > > >The rank and file Sahaja Yogis are aware of these forums now. > > >However, they > > > > >are seriously taking into consideration the word of the >managers > > >of Sahaja > > > > >Yoga that these forums `are not quite right, somehow.' I >would > > >like the > > > > >rank and file Sahaja Yogis to come to these websites with an >open > > >heart and > > > > >mind and really make an effort to understand what we are >saying. > > > > > > > > > >From talking to my dear friend, it was obvious that she never > > >really read, > > > > >with an open heart and mind, what has been written on these >web > > >sites. > > > > >Taking into consideration the negative comments >that " managerial " > > >Sahaja > > > > >Yogis are making about these websites to rank and file SY's, >it > > >will be > > > > >rare for a SY to really check out these websites without >bias. It > > >will be > > > > >rare for them to really come to these websites with an open >heart > > >and mind > > > > >and really read and decide for themselves, whether what is >said > > >is in > > > > >accordance with what Shri Mataji and the other Incarnations >have > > >taught. > > > > >After all, Shri Mataji has said that we must test everything >like > > >a > > > > >scientist. A scientist does not take the word of anyone else, >but > > >tests the > > > > >content against a set standard and that is the proof. Any >Sahaja > > >Yogi can > > > > >do exactly that; test what is written on these websites, using > > >the set > > > > >standard, which is the teachings of Shri Mataji and other > > >Incarnations. > > > > > > > > > >I asked whether i might attend my dear yogini friend's place >for > > >her weekly > > > > >meditation, however she stated that I must change some things > > >first, before > > > > >I can come. I explained to her that I only come to meditate >and > > >not to talk > > > > >about the forums. > > > > > > > > > >Apparently, it is my `self-imposed-exile' that prevents me >from > > >going to > > > > >her place, even though i am specifically asking to attend the > > >local > > > > >collective meditation meeting. > > > > > > > > > >My friend and I `agreed to disagree'....as there was no other > > >option, but > > > > >we both believe that the Truth will come out one day. We gave > > >each other > > > > >loving hugs with hope and also some sadness in our hearts. > > > > > > > > > >With love, > > > > >Violet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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