Never heard again from WCASY # 8 Majid Golpour since April 30, 2002

[Guest guest]

Dear Jagbir,

 

I am but one soul who accidentally found this site. If I was not told

the truth from the beginning I would not be among this group today. I

did not find anything I read to be offensive. If people are seeking

the truth, honesty is the only way to show seekers the truth. Tell

them the truth and they will seek self realization on their own. That

is exactly what happened to me. I am not familiar with the Qur'an,

but from what I have read, the Qur'an talks about the Resurection and

Last Judgement and also the Holy Spirit. Christianity talks about the

Resurection and Last Judgement and the Holy Spirit. If this is

universal, then every seeker should understand this, no matter what

religion they believe in.

 

I have questions regarding different philosophies of the different

religions that each person brings and shares with each of us at this

forum, but I think we all agree that Adi Shatki came here on this

earth to teach each of us that the Resurection and Last Judgement is

approaching quickly and the Holy Spirit is within each of us and how

the Sahasrara is opened up within each of us. It is such a beautiful

and joyful experience that I do not see how any of this could ever be

against protocol. It is by asking questions, studying the scriptures

and teachings of all religions and sharing these truths that people

have understanding and knowledge. I do not want to be an infant but

to be my own Guru. Doesn't Shri Mataji teach this?

 

I want to personally thank you Jagbir for all of your effort you have

contributed to this site.

 

Love,

 

Chuck

 

, " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org> wrote:

>

>

> -

> Majid Golpour

> jagbir singh

> Tuesday, April 30, 2002 1:02 AM

> Re: Majid Golpour

>

>

> Jai Shri Mataji

>

> Dear Jagbir,

>

> I am very happy to hear back from you following my own message to

> you! I am a Sahaja Yogi, named by Shri Mataji as French leader,

and

> since 7 years I'm also responsable for SY in Iran.

>

> If you don't mind I have a couple of questions for you after having

> seen your site:

>

> What is your connection with Sahaja Yoga in general and how much do

> you contribute to the content and build of the Al-Quiammat site?

> Was this site discussed with Shri Mataji before launching it?

>

> The subject dealt with is very delicate, particularly with

reference

> to the name of Shri Mataji, and to do this without Her permission

> could be against protocol. I could be mistaken on this, but as I

> don't believe that I have had the pleasure of speaking with you

> regarding the way we Sahaja Yogis should be helping pass the

message

> of SY to the Muslim community, I am only making presumptions.

>

> You may be aware that a group of yogis of Muslim origin have been

> working for a number of years to transmit our Divine Mother's

> message to Muslims across many countries -- such as Iran, India,

> Algeria, Pakistan, UAE, Turkey, Malaysia, Ivory Coast and Benin, as

> well as the migrant populations in Europe and the States etc...

For

> this reason, it is a little surprising to see a site dedicated to

> this subject without consultation with the concerned yogis from

> these Muslim communities.

>

> Of course, I am in no way questioning your good intentions, but I

do

> feel that the tone of certain documents found on your site could

> cause concern. Please could you let me know about yourself and

your

> aims with this site so that we can perhaps broaden the input in a

> more collective manner thereby reducing the possible risks

> associated with an excess of sensitive and perhaps provocatory

> information for those not yet realised.

>

> Looking forward to hearing back from you soon,

>

> Best regards,

>

> Majid Golpour

>

>

>

> --

-

>

> Dear Majid Golpour,

>

> Jai Shri Mataji!

>

> Greetings.

>

> Before we proceed myself would like to let you know that a copy of

> this email is also being forwarded to Dr. Balwinder Singh -- my

> brother, fellow Sahaja Yogi and an ENT specialist attached to the

> Putrajaya Hospital in Malaysia -- who will bear witness to all that

> is discussed in this email. I have taken this approach because

after

> years of contention, disbelieve and apprehension among Sahaja

Yogis,

> especially those senior or 'in charge' of spreading Shri Mataji's

> Message, I want this matter to finally rest. Thus, having my

brother

> as a highly educated third-party witness will help confirm all that

> I am going to say to defend myself, hopefully for the last time.

>

> 1) What is your connection with Sahaja Yoga in general?

>

> My connection with Sahaja Yoga is that from 1993-1999 three of my

> children went daily into their own Sahasraras during meditation,

met

> Shri Mataji and all the messengers of God Almighty, and informed me

> what was taking place. For 5 years with(out) fail they met Shri

> Mataji daily. They also answered hundreds of my questions about the

> Sahasrara (Kingdom of God), directly from Shri Mataji, as and when

> necessary. This is the only reason myself surrendered to the Truth

> that Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi is the Divine Mother who come to

> announce and initiate the Resurrection and Last Judgment.

>

> You must be assured that if not for my children I would never have

> joined Sahaja Yoga because not only do they provide no proof that

> She is the Adi Shakti, but are even afraid to declare that it is

the

> time of The Resurrection (Al-Qiyamah) and Last Judgment.

>

>

> 2) and how much do you contribute to the content and build of the

Al-

> Quiammat site?

>

> You must know that myself have written a 2,200 page book, Shri Adi

> Shakti: The Kingdom Of God, based on all that was revealed by Shri

> Mataji Nirmala Devi, Shri Jesus, Prophet Muhammad, Shri Krishna,

> Shri Vishnu, Shri Ganesha, Guru Nanak and others. This book was

> presented to Shri Mataji in Cabella in the fall of 1999 and She was

> extremely pleased with it. However it just needs some minor editing

> by Shri Mataji, and will then be published for the general public

in

> four parts.

>

> If Shri Mataji has already read and approved the book for the

> public, which includes the chapter on Al-Qiyamah, then there should

> be no need for concern. Thus the question of whether it has been

> discussed with Shri Mataji does not arise because www.al-

qiyamah.org

> reaches the Muslim nations in ways that is not otherwise possible.

> The book will probably be banned by Islamic nations who view Al-

> Qiyamah as doomsday. The only alternative is the internet and that

> is why the www.al-qiyamah.org website was set up. In fact the

> internet is a much better conduit for spreading Shri Mataji's

> Message as it can be constantly updated with relevant and fresh

> information, something that a book format severely lacks.

>

> The entire www.al-qiyamah.org is done by me. It must be mentioned

> here that the Qur'an specifies Allah's Signs of Qiyamah, which have

> all been taken place precisely as written. I bear witness to these

> Signs and will stand by them even on pain of death, but please do

> not fault me for being the bearer.

>

>

> 3) The subject dealt with is very delicate, particularly with

> reference to the name of Shri Mataji, and to do this without Her

> permission could be against protocol.

>

> Majid Golpour, you are not the first person to question me about

> using Shri Mataji's name and about protocol, and neither will be

the

> last. If Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi is the Adi Shakti, something

which

> you also uphold, then how does the question of protocol arise? Why

> must I need Her permission to announce that She is the Adi Shakti,

> or that it is the time of Qiyamah or that it is the Last Judgment?

> Protocol has nothing to do with announcing the Truth, especially if

> one wants to do so with any fear. Who will set the rules and

> regulations after She leaves? Will Sahaja Yoga turn into an

> organized movement in future, with those in charge setting rules,

> and punishment for breaking them? When will Sahaja Yogis be free to

> declare and announce the Adi Shakti, Qiyamah and Last Judgment

> openly, especially when senior Sahaja Yogis and those in charge

> cannot or do not want to do so openly? Why are we so apprehensive

of

> the Truth? Why must hypocritical double standards be forced on

> others, with 'protocol' used as a tool to silence and subdue those

> who want the world to know that the Adi Shakti is on Earth

> announcing the resurrection and Last Judgment?

>

> Out of the thousands of Muslim visitors to the al-qiyamah site,

only

> three had some disagreements. On the contrary, there are now a

> number of Islamic sites that have hosted www.al-qiyamah.org on

their

> servers. Why are they supporting this website? It is thus

surprising

> and disheartening that fellow Sahaja Yogis are so afraid

> of 'offending' fellow Muslims. What is there to offend Muslims when

> the Qur'an is specifically used as proof? (In the past Sahaja Yogis

> feared that the www.adishakti.org site would bring about a massive

> western media attack. Two years have passed and nothing has

> happened.) Why are we Sahaja Yogis so fearful of telling the world

> what She has told us? Has this policy of holding back information

> helped in any way -- bring more seekers, pacified anti-sahaja yoga

> sites etc?

>

> 4) a little surprising to see a site dedicated to this subject

> without consultation with the concerned yogis from these Muslim

> communities.

>

> Myself have had no idea that it was necessary to consult fellow

> yogis. In fact I did not even know that there was a Muslim group

> working to spread Sahaja Yoga to Muslim countries. (I was in

> Malaysia last year and there was no such group there). I have never

> questioned any Sahaja Yogi/Yogini on how he or she spreads Sahaja

> Yoga. Neither did anyone inform me that there were specific groups

> or committees whose permission was required to spread Sahaja Yoga,

> especially 'sensitive information'. Myself have never heard Shri

> Mataji saying that declaring She is the Adi Shakti, that it is the

> Last Judgment, the Time of Qiyamah must be approved by certain

> yogis. This is something new to me, despite years in sahaja Yoga.

>

> 5) tone of certain documents found on your site could cause concern.

>

> Please let me know which are the documents and myself am willing to

> look into them.

>

>

> 6) we can perhaps broaden the input in a more collective manner

> thereby reducing the possible risks associated with an excess of

> sensitive and perhaps provocatory information for those not yet

> realised.

>

> The Adi Shakti, Resurrection and Last Judgment are not provocative

> information. We cannot wait for humans to be realized before

telling

> them the Truth. It has not worked in the past. Tell them the Truth

> first and they may seek Self-realization on their own.

>

> Again I would like to state that myself am willing to work with

> anyone to spread the Message of Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi. I agree

> that at times the tone of my language is strong but so is my utter

> disgust and disdain for religious organizations manipulating and

> distorting the Truth. The fact that it is Resurrection Time only

> makes me all the more forthright in denouncing them. Anything less

> would render me a coward and hypocrite. Afterall Allah (SWT)

compels

> you, as one of His many messengers of Al-Qiyamah, to announce the

> Resurrection without fear and uphold the Qur'an as proof His

> Warning! May you have the conviction and fearlessness to do so.

>

>

> Jai Shri Mataji,

>

>

> jagbir

>

[Guest guest]

, " Chuck "

<chuckhennigan@s...> wrote:

>

> Dear Jagbir,

>

> I am but one soul who accidentally found this site. If I was not

> told the truth from the beginning I would not be among this group

> today. I did not find anything I read to be offensive. If people

> are seeking the truth, honesty is the only way to show seekers the

> truth. Tell them the truth and they will seek self realization on

> their own. That is exactly what happened to me. I am not familiar

> with the Qur'an, but from what I have read, the Qur'an talks about

> the Resurection and Last Judgement and also the Holy Spirit.

> Christianity talks about the Resurection and Last Judgement and

> the Holy Spirit. If this is universal, then every seeker should

> understand this, no matter what religion they believe in.

>

> I have questions regarding different philosophies of the different

> religions that each person brings and shares with each of us at

> this forum, but I think we all agree that Adi Shatki came here on

> this earth to teach each of us that the Resurection and Last

> Judgement is approaching quickly and the Holy Spirit is within

> each of us and how the Sahasrara is opened up within each of us.

> It is such a beautiful and joyful experience that I do not see how

> any of this could ever be against protocol. It is by asking

> questions, studying the scriptures and teachings of all religions

> and sharing these truths that people have understanding and kn

> knowledge. I do not want to be an infant but to be my own Guru.

> Doesn't Shri Mataji teach this?

>

> I want to personally thank you Jagbir for all of your effort you

> have contributed to this site.

>

> Love,

>

> Chuck

>

>

 

 

Dear Chuck,

 

Thank you for all the kind words and gratitude you have always

expressed. Many times i have felt comforted that, unlike SYs, my

efforts are contributing towards bringing seekers to this Great

Event ordained for humanity ........... and heartfelt thanks given

in return.

 

i too concur that " we all agree that Adi Shatki came here on this

earth to teach each of us that the Resurrection and Last Judgment is

approaching quickly and the Holy Spirit is within each of us and how

the Sahasrara is opened up within each of us. It is such a beautiful

and joyful experience that I do not see how any of this could ever

be against protocol. " Such an incarnation and spiritual guidance is

unprecedented in human history. All religions, their prophets and

holy scriptures harmoniously and collectively triumph in this Great

Event. What then is the fear and possession that prevents so-called

World Council members from sharing this beautiful and joyful

experience with the rest of humanity?

 

For some unknown reason the management SYs are actively seeking out

and slandering those who are of that opinion. The excuse they used

in the past was that the religious institutions and their followers

will be outraged and the media will attack Sahaja Yoga and Shri

Mataji. That is why an extraordinary effort and pressure was exerted

on me by leaders in 1999 to stop my setting up the websites.

 

But nothing adverse have happened despite the strong language and

unrestrained honesty. On the contrary seekers began writing that

they appreciated the wealth of knowledge available, knowledge that

made them understand their own religions and scriptures better.

However, instead of management SYs admitting they made an error of

judgment, they have spread lies and misinformation behind Shri

Mataji's back to prevent the rank and file SYs from reading the

websites. They just do not share Her great pleasure, explicit public

approval and happiness that a miraculous work has been accomplished,

a work that will challenge humanity. They just are unhappy that:

 

" Once this book is out all over the world, it will be known about

our Work. We'll not be challenged any more. But still we have to see

for ourselves, that if we have this kind of recognition or not, our

capabilities should be up to that. " (Shri Mataji)

 

However, Shri Mataji knew what obstacles laid ahead and hinted " But

still we have to see for ourselves, that if we have this kind of

recognition or not " . That was more than 7 years ago and management

SYs still do not share, less believe, Shri Mataji's lasting legacy

to humanity.

 

Chuck, it is only people like you and Violet and others here who are

going to collectively declare that the " Adi Shatki came here on this

earth to teach each of us that the Resurrection and Last Judgment is

approaching quickly and the Holy Spirit is within each of us and how

the Sahasrara is opened up within each of us. "

 

" Your job is, in a way, greater than the saints and sages. The

saints and sages did not give Realization to anyone. They gave

lectures, tried to make people understand. Your job is that you have

to awaken the Kundalini in people and make them Self-Realized, and

resurrect the whole world. This is an extremely important and Divine

Job, and for this Adi Shakti Herself had to come. " (Shri Mataji)

 

It is indeed such a beautiful and joyful experience to give to

humanity. Truth always triumphs, and will eventually overcome all

obstacles, negativity and resistance from those who are trying to

suppress it. All we need is to hold our ground and let time take its

toll.

 

 

with love and best wishes,

 

 

 

jagbir

[Guest guest]

, " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org> wrote:

>

>

> i too concur that " we all agree that Adi Shatki came here on this

> earth to teach each of us that the Resurrection and Last Judgment

> is approaching quickly and the Holy Spirit is within each of us

> and how the Sahasrara is opened up within each of us. It is such a

> beautiful and joyful experience that I do not see how any of this

> could ever be against protocol. " Such an incarnation and spiritual

> guidance is unprecedented in human history. All religions, their

> prophets and holy scriptures harmoniously and collectively triumph

> in this Great Event. What then is the fear and possession that

> prevents so-called World Council members from sharing this

> beautiful and joyful experience with the rest of humanity?

>

> For some unknown reason the management SYs are actively seeking

> out and slandering those who are of that opinion. The excuse they

> used in the past was that the religious institutions and their

> followers will be outraged and the media will attack Sahaja Yoga

> and Shri Mataji. That is why an extraordinary effort and pressure

> was exerted on me by leaders in 1999 to stop my setting up the

> websites.

>

> But nothing adverse have happened despite the strong language and

> unrestrained honesty. On the contrary seekers began writing that

> they appreciated the wealth of knowledge available, knowledge that

> made them understand their own religions and scriptures better.

> However, instead of management SYs admitting they made an error of

> judgment, they have spread lies and misinformation behind Shri

> Mataji's back to prevent the rank and file SYs from reading the

> websites. They just do not share Her great pleasure, explicit

> public approval and happiness that a miraculous work has been

> accomplished, a work that will challenge humanity. They just are

> unhappy that:

>

> " Once this book is out all over the world, it will be known about

> our Work. We'll not be challenged any more. But still we have to

> see for ourselves, that if we have this kind of recognition or

> not, our capabilities should be up to that. " (Shri Mataji)

>

>

 

According to Wikipedia " followers of Islam, known as Muslims,

believe that God (or, in Arabic, Allâh; also in Aramaic Alaha)

revealed his direct word for mankind to Muhammad (c. 570–632) and

other prophets, including Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, and Jesus.

Muslims believe that Muhammad is the last or the seal of the

Prophets. Thus, his preachings for humankind will last until qiyamah

(The Day of the Resurrection). Muslims assert that the main written

record of revelation to humankind is the Qur'an (see below), which

they believe to be flawless, immutable, and the final revelation of

God to humanity. Muslims believe that parts of the Gospels, Torah

and Jewish prophetic books (though originally divine in their

nature) have been forgotten, misinterpreted, incorrectly edited by

humans, or distorted by their followers and thus their original

message has been corrupted over time. With that perspective, Muslims

view the Qur'an as a correction of Jewish and Christian scriptures,

and a final revelation.

 

Muslims hold that Islam is essentially the same belief as that of

all the messengers sent by God to mankind since Adam, with the

Qur'ân (the one definitive text of the Muslim faith) codifying the

final revelation of God. Islamic texts depict Judaism and

Christianity as derivations of the teachings of the prophet Abraham

and thus acknowledges their Abrahamic roots, whilst the Qur'an calls

Jews and Christians (and sometimes people of other faiths) " People

of the Book. ...

 

Most Muslims regard paper copies of the Qur'an with extreme

veneration, wrapping them in a clean cloth, keeping them on a high

shelf, and washing as for prayers before reading the Qur'an. Old

Qur'ans are not destroyed as wastepaper, but burned or deposited in

Qur'an graveyards.

 

Most Muslims memorize at least some portion of the Qur'an in the

original language. Those who have memorized the entire Qur'an are

known as hafiz. This is not a rare achievement; it is believed that

there are millions of hafiz alive today. " (End)

 

i know for a fact that Muslims take immense pride in their great

faith that springs forth from the Qur'an. Many of them are prepared

to willingly die for its cause and will go to great length to

announce their beliefs.

 

But in Sahaja Yoga even Muslims like Majid Golpour gradually lose

the formidable strenght of their faith and succumb to the corruption

of the Truth. Perhaps such corruption, caution and cowardice to

state the Truth is required for council member seats. Maybe WCASY

should seek a second opinion as to what Shri Mataji was telling SYs

to do nearly 25 years ago:

 

" Now you can announce the Truth, that you are realized souls, that

you have felt this Divine power which is prevailing everywhere; that

you can give realisation to others and know that, by your accepting

the Truth, you are not adding anything to the Truth, but are

adorning yourself. One requires courage to enjoy the Truth.

Sometimes people may mock at you, laugh at you, and persecute you

also, but that should not be any worry to you because your

relationship is with the statutes, with the Grace of God. When that

is your connection, you should not worry about other people and what

they have to say about it. You have to stand up, adorn yourself with

that Truth, and talk to people and people will know that you have

found it. "

 

Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi (1981-09, Enjoy the Truth)

 

 

i believe Sahaja Yoga is the only spiritual/religious organization

that offically endorses dishonesty and where the management condones

action against those who demand full disclosure. It is when Muslim

SYs start succumbing to organized and collective deception that the

limit has been reached. It cannot get any worse than Muslims

becoming afraid of being His messengers who must announce the Great

Event ordained for humanity. The Qur'an compels the believers of the

Last Judgment and Al-Qiyamah to do so without fear or favour, just

as Shri Mataji has done for more than three decades. Yet, despite

all Her efforts, Muslim leaders like Majid Golpour are still as

afraid and apprehensive. This cantagious disease has spread and

severely wasted the collective body of the rank and file to spread

Her Message to humanity. It seems they will never do so.

 

But Shri Mataji will accomplish Her mission no matter how many SYs

follow the official organized version of truth as stated on their

websites. Perhaps the latest WebSearch results reflect that promise:

 

www.adishakti.org

1 week avg: 144,141

3 months avg: 196,029

3 month's change: + 110,827

 

www.sahajayoga.org

1 week avg: 707,113

3 months avg: 252,024

3 month's change: - 39,156

 

 

regards to all,

 

 

 

jagbir

[Guest guest]

, " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org> wrote:

>

>

> i know for a fact that Muslims take immense pride in their great

> faith that springs forth from the Qur'an. Many of them are

> prepared to willingly die for its cause and will go to great

> length to announce their beliefs.

>

> But in Sahaja Yoga even Muslims like Majid Golpour gradually lose

> the formidable strenght of their faith and succumb to the

> corruption of the Truth.

>

 

 

Belgian woman bomber identified

BBC Thursday, 1 December 2005, 15:44 GMT

 

Stunned Belgians are starting to get a clearer picture of the

Belgian woman identified as a suicide bomber killed in Iraq last

month.

 

La Derniere Heure newspaper published a photo of the woman it said

was the bomber, and interviewed her mother.

 

The paper says she is Muriel Degauque, 38, from Charleroi, who

converted to Islam after marrying a radical Muslim.

 

Federal prosecutors would not confirm the woman's identity, only

that she was a Belgian of European origin.

 

But La Derniere Heure ran the headline: " This is our Belgian

kamikaze killed in Iraq. "

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4488642.stm

[Guest guest]

Must agree Jagbir, that the truth should not hurt anyone. If Shri Mataji is

the Holy Spirit incarnation we do not need to worry about being truthful.

Actually the Gnostics go around keeping SECRET societies, and think they

KNOW a knowlege that no one else has. Sahaja Yogis are supose to SPREAD the

GOOD NEWS....

 

Ask Shri Mataji what SHE prefers? It is not a SECRET society.... So we need

to be TRUTHFUL, and IF it is not meant THIS time for Her to be murdered,

then it will NOT happen. All will move as it should.

It is however, important to keep the rules, as Shri Mataji started them. The

time IS near, and we already knew about the resurrection, and salvation etc,

before, and that God lives IN us, by only reading the BIBLE. MANY religions

believe in meditation to achieve the stirring up of salvation and higher

self, from within, even Chritians and Orthodox etc, they have meditation,

and many have disappeared, and many other things,, and many before have had

MIRACLES performed in their name, by a close walk and the INNER silence, the

latter day saints, went off often by themselves to live the quiet secluded

life to do just that.

 

 

Many years ago, as an activities director in an adult home, I had a

gentlemen come at Holloween to do a program, well he was of metaphysical

belief system, and had gone to a special school and could channel and play a

piano divinely which he could NOT do when not in that state ( well now, I

see that I probably should not have had him and the beliefs, but needed a

program) anyway, he taught the residents something similiar to Sahaja Yoga.

He showed them how to use the arms and raise the vibrations, and many years

later, when I learned of Sahaja Yoga, was surprised that at his Metaphysical

school they were so close to the knowing of all this too.

 

Best to be honest ( getting back to our main thme) and not act like people

with a secretive society, and hold off till people are IN< and cannot decide

for self, what they believe when confronted with the truth of it all. God

wanted people to have choice and not be as robots, so we need to trust and

pray they make the correct decision after they know the truth, it is not for

us to decide, not for us to be judged over their decisions. It is not up to

us, to decide who is REALLY a Sahaja Yoga either, and that is judging, lest

we be judged. " We are our OWN GURU " That is the belief? We cannot say who

has the vibrations and who does not the person ought to know. The HOLY

SPIRIT REALLY KNOWS>>>>

 

Thanks for allowing freedom of expression and speech, here, Jagbir. We can

share and learn this way.

 

Carol Ann

 

 

 

 

> " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org

>

>

> Re: Never heard again from WCASY # 8 Majid

>Golpour since April 30, 2002

>Thu, 01 Dec 2005 16:35:43 -0000

>

> , " jagbir singh "

><adishakti_org> wrote:

> >

> >

> > i too concur that " we all agree that Adi Shatki came here on this

> > earth to teach each of us that the Resurrection and Last Judgment

> > is approaching quickly and the Holy Spirit is within each of us

> > and how the Sahasrara is opened up within each of us. It is such a

> > beautiful and joyful experience that I do not see how any of this

> > could ever be against protocol. " Such an incarnation and spiritual

> > guidance is unprecedented in human history. All religions, their

> > prophets and holy scriptures harmoniously and collectively triumph

> > in this Great Event. What then is the fear and possession that

> > prevents so-called World Council members from sharing this

> > beautiful and joyful experience with the rest of humanity?

> >

> > For some unknown reason the management SYs are actively seeking

> > out and slandering those who are of that opinion. The excuse they

> > used in the past was that the religious institutions and their

> > followers will be outraged and the media will attack Sahaja Yoga

> > and Shri Mataji. That is why an extraordinary effort and pressure

> > was exerted on me by leaders in 1999 to stop my setting up the

> > websites.

> >

> > But nothing adverse have happened despite the strong language and

> > unrestrained honesty. On the contrary seekers began writing that

> > they appreciated the wealth of knowledge available, knowledge that

> > made them understand their own religions and scriptures better.

> > However, instead of management SYs admitting they made an error of

> > judgment, they have spread lies and misinformation behind Shri

> > Mataji's back to prevent the rank and file SYs from reading the

> > websites. They just do not share Her great pleasure, explicit

> > public approval and happiness that a miraculous work has been

> > accomplished, a work that will challenge humanity. They just are

> > unhappy that:

> >

> > " Once this book is out all over the world, it will be known about

> > our Work. We'll not be challenged any more. But still we have to

> > see for ourselves, that if we have this kind of recognition or

> > not, our capabilities should be up to that. " (Shri Mataji)

> >

> >

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>According to Wikipedia " followers of Islam, known as Muslims,

>believe that God (or, in Arabic, Allâh; also in Aramaic Alaha)

>revealed his direct word for mankind to Muhammad (c. 570–632) and

>other prophets, including Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, and Jesus.

>Muslims believe that Muhammad is the last or the seal of the

>Prophets. Thus, his preachings for humankind will last until qiyamah

>(The Day of the Resurrection). Muslims assert that the main written

>record of revelation to humankind is the Qur'an (see below), which

>they believe to be flawless, immutable, and the final revelation of

>God to humanity. Muslims believe that parts of the Gospels, Torah

>and Jewish prophetic books (though originally divine in their

>nature) have been forgotten, misinterpreted, incorrectly edited by

>humans, or distorted by their followers and thus their original

>message has been corrupted over time. With that perspective, Muslims

>view the Qur'an as a correction of Jewish and Christian scriptures,

>and a final revelation.

>

>Muslims hold that Islam is essentially the same belief as that of

>all the messengers sent by God to mankind since Adam, with the

>Qur'ân (the one definitive text of the Muslim faith) codifying the

>final revelation of God. Islamic texts depict Judaism and

>Christianity as derivations of the teachings of the prophet Abraham

>and thus acknowledges their Abrahamic roots, whilst the Qur'an calls

>Jews and Christians (and sometimes people of other faiths) " People

>of the Book. ...

>

>Most Muslims regard paper copies of the Qur'an with extreme

>veneration, wrapping them in a clean cloth, keeping them on a high

>shelf, and washing as for prayers before reading the Qur'an. Old

>Qur'ans are not destroyed as wastepaper, but burned or deposited in

>Qur'an graveyards.

>

>Most Muslims memorize at least some portion of the Qur'an in the

>original language. Those who have memorized the entire Qur'an are

>known as hafiz. This is not a rare achievement; it is believed that

>there are millions of hafiz alive today. " (End)

>

>i know for a fact that Muslims take immense pride in their great

>faith that springs forth from the Qur'an. Many of them are prepared

>to willingly die for its cause and will go to great length to

>announce their beliefs.

>

>But in Sahaja Yoga even Muslims like Majid Golpour gradually lose

>the formidable strenght of their faith and succumb to the corruption

>of the Truth. Perhaps such corruption, caution and cowardice to

>state the Truth is required for council member seats. Maybe WCASY

>should seek a second opinion as to what Shri Mataji was telling SYs

>to do nearly 25 years ago:

>

> " Now you can announce the Truth, that you are realized souls, that

>you have felt this Divine power which is prevailing everywhere; that

>you can give realisation to others and know that, by your accepting

>the Truth, you are not adding anything to the Truth, but are

>adorning yourself. One requires courage to enjoy the Truth.

>Sometimes people may mock at you, laugh at you, and persecute you

>also, but that should not be any worry to you because your

>relationship is with the statutes, with the Grace of God. When that

>is your connection, you should not worry about other people and what

>they have to say about it. You have to stand up, adorn yourself with

>that Truth, and talk to people and people will know that you have

>found it. "

>

>Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi (1981-09, Enjoy the Truth)

>

>

>i believe Sahaja Yoga is the only spiritual/religious organization

>that offically endorses dishonesty and where the management condones

>action against those who demand full disclosure. It is when Muslim

>SYs start succumbing to organized and collective deception that the

>limit has been reached. It cannot get any worse than Muslims

>becoming afraid of being His messengers who must announce the Great

>Event ordained for humanity. The Qur'an compels the believers of the

>Last Judgment and Al-Qiyamah to do so without fear or favour, just

>as Shri Mataji has done for more than three decades. Yet, despite

>all Her efforts, Muslim leaders like Majid Golpour are still as

>afraid and apprehensive. This cantagious disease has spread and

>severely wasted the collective body of the rank and file to spread

>Her Message to humanity. It seems they will never do so.

>

>But Shri Mataji will accomplish Her mission no matter how many SYs

>follow the official organized version of truth as stated on their

>websites. Perhaps the latest WebSearch results reflect that promise:

>

>www.adishakti.org

>1 week avg: 144,141

>3 months avg: 196,029

>3 month's change: + 110,827

>

>www.sahajayoga.org

>1 week avg: 707,113

>3 months avg: 252,024

>3 month's change: - 39,156

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>regards to all,

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>jagbir

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