Time has come for WCASY to either end or complete the Inquisytion

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, " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org> wrote:

>

> Now we have Edward Saugstad trying to imply that he heard that

> statement from a leader years ago. If Yogi Mahajan can fabricate

> lies and false accusations to condemn an innocent child, then

> claiming Shri Mataji told him that anyone who follows me will fall

> is so easy. It is all part and parcel of his web of lies and

> deceit against the family.

>

> But i want to ask: What was i doing in the late 90s that was

> considered dangerous? What evil deeds was i committing since at

> that time there was neither book nor website? Moreover i was going

> to the collective and meditating regurlarly with other SYs, even

> attending most local/internation North American pujas. We were all

> one big happy family. How come no one informed us that Jagbir is a

> threat to Sahaja Yoga and " that anyone who follows him will go

> down with him " ? How come Shri Mataji never said that to me when,

> subsequently, i met Her on a number of occasions?

>

> How come now, years later, Yogi Mahajan's ghost has possessed

> Edward Saugstad and made him continue the Inquisytion?

>

 

i came across an interesting WCASY article that read:

 

" Acceptance Of Resolutions By The World Council Of Sahaja Yoga And

Collective Leadership In Switzerland

Thursday, November 24, 2005

 

 

Dear Brothers and Sisters of the world collective,

 

The World Council for the Advancement of Sahaja Yoga (WCASY) would

like to share with you all the seminal resolutions establishing the

initial formation of the World Council by Our Holy Mother and our

humble acceptance of Her charge, our commitment to the principles of

collective leadership as established by Shri Mataji in 2001, and

finally, the Mission Statement of the World Council describing its

mandate as homage to Shri Mataji and a service to the world

collective.

 

It is intended that these resolutions and mission statement will

establish the basis to fully preserve and enhance Shri Mataji's

legacy for generations to come and create a code of ethics and

procedures for the Council to discharge its responsibilities in a

manner in accordance with Sahaja principles. The following documents

are attached hereto for your information and understanding:

 

The resolution for the Humble Acceptance of Responsibility and The

resolution of Commitment to Collective Leadership

 

The Mission Statement of WCASY " (end)

 

 

Upon checking The Mission Statement of WCASY part of it read:

 

" The World Council recognizes that the knowledge of Sahaja Yoga is

a living knowledge carried, developed and manifested by each yogini

and yogi who truly follows the guidance of Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

through his or her own inner enlightenment. To facilitate and

sustain the spreading and benefits of this spiritual experience, the

World Council stands for the faithful custody and active promotion

of the body of teachings of Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, as enshrined

in speeches, written texts and discourses contained in print, audio

and video formats. " (end)

 

i remember years ago filled with so much hope for Sahaja Yoga and

the advancement of the Shakti. While Her physical incarnation Shri

Mataji Nirmala Devi was still advancing the Great Event ordained for

humanity on Earth, She and the Divine Messengers of God Almighty had

already finished their job in the Kingdom of God (Sahasrara) within

on July 26, 1995.

 

But i learnt the hard way that despite the perfect execution of

divine duty by the physical Shri Mataji without and Shakti within,

the negativity within Sahaja Yoga was formidable, even subversive.

 

The initial attempts in 1994, undertaken with only a genuine desire

to advance the Truth, was met with adverse reaction from all

quarters, even from childhood friends. To all it was an outrageous

assertion and the work of evil spirits. The strongest opposition

came from the senior SYs who denounced it outright. The chorus of

negativity kept on swelling like mighty tidal waves, cresting, and

crashing down relentlessly to subdue and silence the Truth.

 

In the end my entire family became spiritual outcasts for daring to

utter a truth so radical that even the most enlightened SY rejected

it. We were the first heretics of the New Millennium, ridiculed by

each and every soul to whom i spoke.

 

My wife was the most affected and just wanted no one be told of her

son's experiences anymore. She began to insist that whatever the

Great Divine Feminine was revealing were solely for the family to

realize and attain liberation. It was not to be told to anyone else,

not even the devotees of the Great Adi Shakti.

 

However, i felt otherwise. Such priceless knowledge could never be

just for his selfish use but the benefit of the human family.

 

i knew that such an unprecedented opportunity for all humanity to

examine and validate the Truth of God Almighty might not come again.

In my mind i was convinced that i had to perform my duty even if

everybody — my parents, friends, relatives, and fellow Sahaja

Yogis — ridiculed, criticized, or ostracized me.

 

" Some have said that no answer can be found to the mystery, for

humans have created it and no suprahuman or supernatural answer

exists. " This centuries-old dilemma that had allowed religious

regimes to conjecture contradicting dogma could now be solved.

 

i became resolute and reiterated that i would announce this Ultimate

Reality, given the vast weight of unquestionable evidence, no matter

how ridiculous others thought of my claims. It was imperative that i

did so and allow the entire human race and history to judge, and not

just a few skeptical individuals. The Truth had to be told no matter

what the consequences. It was a moral duty that any conscientious

human would most willingly do.

 

In the end, after weeks of disturbance in my family, there was a

compromise. i agreed to maintain silence and let things take their

course, as required by my spouse, provided i be allowed to question

Kash in detail and record all of his mystical experiences. i would

then wait for the appropriate time to release them for the benefit

of others.

 

On April 2, 1995, at 11:20 a.m. Kash was told to obtain permission

from the Great Universal Mother to reveal the Truth. He meditated

and emerged through the clouds into the Land of Eternal Life. The

Primal Light shone ever so brightly from above as the Great Goddess

sat in Bliss and Joy. After bowing down and exchanging greetings, he

asked if She would grant permission. The Devi gave Her blessings

with a reminder that this intuitive Knowledge was especially for Her

devotees.

 

It was at this point that the actual compilation of his spiritual

journeys began in earnest. Kash was questioned practically every

day, sometimes repeatedly, to clarify and confirm what he saw,

heard, thought, spoke, smelled, touched, and tasted. Often questions

were asked suddenly when he least expected just to get him off-guard

to confirm consistency. All answers came with a calm and nonchalant

attitude, without contradiction.

 

However, the adverse reactions from almost all SYs regarding the

experiences of Kash experiences were disturbing. After a few months

of writing i began deleting some revelations by the Shakti because i

felt their controversial nature would make matter worse as SYs were

already hostile and regarded all of us to be possessed and demonic.

 

But that editing of evidence was not to be undertaken as far as the

Devi was concerned.

 

On December 27, 1995, at about 4:30 p.m. preparations to perform

Christmas Puja were in progress. The house was dusted, vacuumed and

mopped, the altar decorated with flowers and offerings, eating

utensils washed, dried and arranged, and food for SYs laid on the

dining table. Christmas carols uplifted the spirits, and made work

light.

 

Kash was alone in his room, deep in meditation. Shri Adhiparasakthi

Devi spoke to him for about 10 minutes, inquiring about his state of

mind. Kash told the Great Primordial Mother that he was still not

ready spiritually. She replied that this was normal and he should

lead an ordinary life, and that this book was not be published yet.

 

The Great Devi then revealed to him that there were five special

occasions, among his hundreds of encounters with Her in his

Sahasrara, that She appeared in Her pure form and not as Mahamaya.

By this She meant that Kash witnessed Her purest manifestation only

five times, confirming that the controversial evidence i was trying

to erase was absolutely true!

 

The five occasions were:

 

1. The very first day he saw Her. This was on the Diwali of November

1993, the Hindu New Year.

2. The day he came to request from Her for a baby sister. This day

is unknown as Kash had done it on his own initiative, without

informing anyone.

3. April 3, 1994 ...

4. April 18, 1994 ...

5. July 26, 1995, the day She revealed that they had completed their

Job on this Earth and ended Kash's mystical journeys into his own

Sahasrara. (Arwinder and Lalita continue till date to meditate with

Her in their Sahasraras.)

 

Sooner or later the SYs will have to deal with the Devi within. They

can focus all their attention on Her physical incarnation Shri

Mataji Nirmala Devi. But the day will come when She will leave

Earth. Maybe then they will come to understand what the Devi, the

Great Goddess within, meant when She declared: " We have done our job

here. "

 

We too have done our job and presented all the evidence that made

Her declare at Cabella, Italy on May 21, 1998 during the Shri Adi

Shakti Puja:

 

" Once this book is out all over the world, it will be known about

our Work. We'll not be challenged any more. But still we have to see

for ourselves, that if we have this kind of recognition or not, our

capabilities should be up to that. "

 

The time has come for WCASY to either end or complete the

Inquisytion initiated by ex-world leader Yogi Mahajan so that my

remaining enemies like Edward Suagstad are vanquished. If this does

not take place then time will be the final judge and destroyer of

all who do not accept the Truth witnessed by those who met Her in

their Sahasraras. It will and must never be changed, altered or

watered down to accommodate anyone, even myself, and the Shakti has

made sure that never happens. WCASY can either end or complete the

Inquisytion. But no matter what they decide we will never ever

compromise the Truth. Sitting on the fence will only harm WACSY as

history will be its the harshest judge and foe.

 

 

Jai Shri Mataji,

 

 

 

jagbir

[Guest guest]

Dear Jagbir,

 

Forgive me for intruding on your explanations, done so very well, may I add,

of how your children have received the visitations from Shri Mataji, in

their Sahasarara, and I certainly believe it!!!! ( But that does not really

matter who am I just a drop of water in the ocean)

Do not pay attention to ignorance, and relax in what you have and are

knowing, just do not even bother to defend it, as you will not need to one

day all will know the truth soon.

 

My husband Danny, and I, also were ridiculed and it came back to us, many

not believing that we did not need to be shown, Sahaja Yoga, and we were LED

to the land in Canajoharie, by VIBRATIONS and we drove there, and wondered

what it was all about, stopped on the land and asked, and was shown by

wonderful Sahaja Yogis about the meditation process etc, through friends

later learning more,, but never learned from a public meeting, Did help

later and attend AFTER realization,,,, just being LED by the vibrations. (

people did not belive us either, but I really do not care, who believes or

who does not, as it does not matter, we know what we know and that is it!)

How we belive and think is for us, and our Lord alone. We grew up in that

area, and happened to be out for a ride that day, and just KNEW something

was right, but as we drove up on the land, ( Ashram) we did not know WHAT

was there and actually if we had been in our right minds, we would never had

done it knowing it was NOT OUR property.... and could have been shot at, or

police called, but yet, we did it, and as my husband drove, a couple times I

did think, " suppose it is anudist camp, or something, worse, " but then we

kept going FEELIG THE BIBRATIONSD wer NOT BAD it wws GOOD, and were LED

there, and when I had my audience ( personal) with Shri Mataji, thanks to

Manoj, we talked of this, and Shri Mataji was delighted, but let me know

that there are others like us also, ( we are not so special, another wards)

who can be LED without the public meditation first. You see Jealousy makes

people doubt like Thomas who was not with the other deciples in the upper

room, so he had to SEE for himself he needed PROOF, and we do not NEED to

proove anything, and no one needs to be jealous as we are all different, and

it takes VARIOUS ways for people to come to their enlightnement and we need

to be happy for all and not doubt. Each person, has their own way and own

time, and your children had and have a special time with Shri Mataji and

that is wonderful, and if She wants it written so be it. Not ALL children

maybe will have same experience. Not all disiples, did, and yet, when some

wanted to be FIRST in the Kingdom, Jesus said ' it is not mine to grant " So

he who is first will be last and he that is last will be first.....We all

have different things to share and experience, but if we REALLY are

enlightened in in our Sahasararas we would not be jeaolous or doubting of

each other. Luckily Shri Mataji is still on Earth and can be ASKED what she

thinks, later it will take FAITH.

 

Have to say, that I am not saying Shri Mataji is NOT the Holy Spirit

incarnation, but am saying ( We see her as not)she is a Guru ( to us) and

high being sent to play a part on this Earth now, but we also, see her a

little different then many, I guess, but whatever, it is fine and meant to

be evidently. The time will come when we all will know the truth, and I am

not afraid, as I will be understod, as I was made by our Lord above who

knows my intentions and that they are good.

 

Carol Ann

 

 

> " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org

>

>

> Time has come for WCASY to either end or

>complete the Inquisytion

>Sat, 03 Dec 2005 18:11:33 -0000

>

> , " jagbir singh "

><adishakti_org> wrote:

> >

> > Now we have Edward Saugstad trying to imply that he heard that

> > statement from a leader years ago. If Yogi Mahajan can fabricate

> > lies and false accusations to condemn an innocent child, then

> > claiming Shri Mataji told him that anyone who follows me will fall

> > is so easy. It is all part and parcel of his web of lies and

> > deceit against the family.

> >

> > But i want to ask: What was i doing in the late 90s that was

> > considered dangerous? What evil deeds was i committing since at

> > that time there was neither book nor website? Moreover i was going

> > to the collective and meditating regurlarly with other SYs, even

> > attending most local/internation North American pujas. We were all

> > one big happy family. How come no one informed us that Jagbir is a

> > threat to Sahaja Yoga and " that anyone who follows him will go

> > down with him " ? How come Shri Mataji never said that to me when,

> > subsequently, i met Her on a number of occasions?

> >

> > How come now, years later, Yogi Mahajan's ghost has possessed

> > Edward Saugstad and made him continue the Inquisytion?

> >

>

>i came across an interesting WCASY article that read:

>

> " Acceptance Of Resolutions By The World Council Of Sahaja Yoga And

>Collective Leadership In Switzerland

>Thursday, November 24, 2005

>

>

>Dear Brothers and Sisters of the world collective,

>

>The World Council for the Advancement of Sahaja Yoga (WCASY) would

>like to share with you all the seminal resolutions establishing the

>initial formation of the World Council by Our Holy Mother and our

>humble acceptance of Her charge, our commitment to the principles of

>collective leadership as established by Shri Mataji in 2001, and

>finally, the Mission Statement of the World Council describing its

>mandate as homage to Shri Mataji and a service to the world

>collective.

>

>It is intended that these resolutions and mission statement will

>establish the basis to fully preserve and enhance Shri Mataji's

>legacy for generations to come and create a code of ethics and

>procedures for the Council to discharge its responsibilities in a

>manner in accordance with Sahaja principles. The following documents

>are attached hereto for your information and understanding:

>

>The resolution for the Humble Acceptance of Responsibility and The

>resolution of Commitment to Collective Leadership

>

>The Mission Statement of WCASY " (end)

>

>

>Upon checking The Mission Statement of WCASY part of it read:

>

> " The World Council recognizes that the knowledge of Sahaja Yoga is

>a living knowledge carried, developed and manifested by each yogini

>and yogi who truly follows the guidance of Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

>through his or her own inner enlightenment. To facilitate and

>sustain the spreading and benefits of this spiritual experience, the

>World Council stands for the faithful custody and active promotion

>of the body of teachings of Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, as enshrined

>in speeches, written texts and discourses contained in print, audio

>and video formats. " (end)

>

>i remember years ago filled with so much hope for Sahaja Yoga and

>the advancement of the Shakti. While Her physical incarnation Shri

>Mataji Nirmala Devi was still advancing the Great Event ordained for

>humanity on Earth, She and the Divine Messengers of God Almighty had

>already finished their job in the Kingdom of God (Sahasrara) within

>on July 26, 1995.

>

>But i learnt the hard way that despite the perfect execution of

>divine duty by the physical Shri Mataji without and Shakti within,

>the negativity within Sahaja Yoga was formidable, even subversive.

>

>The initial attempts in 1994, undertaken with only a genuine desire

>to advance the Truth, was met with adverse reaction from all

>quarters, even from childhood friends. To all it was an outrageous

>assertion and the work of evil spirits. The strongest opposition

>came from the senior SYs who denounced it outright. The chorus of

>negativity kept on swelling like mighty tidal waves, cresting, and

>crashing down relentlessly to subdue and silence the Truth.

>

>In the end my entire family became spiritual outcasts for daring to

>utter a truth so radical that even the most enlightened SY rejected

>it. We were the first heretics of the New Millennium, ridiculed by

>each and every soul to whom i spoke.

>

>My wife was the most affected and just wanted no one be told of her

>son's experiences anymore. She began to insist that whatever the

>Great Divine Feminine was revealing were solely for the family to

>realize and attain liberation. It was not to be told to anyone else,

>not even the devotees of the Great Adi Shakti.

>

>However, i felt otherwise. Such priceless knowledge could never be

>just for his selfish use but the benefit of the human family.

>

>i knew that such an unprecedented opportunity for all humanity to

>examine and validate the Truth of God Almighty might not come again.

>In my mind i was convinced that i had to perform my duty even if

>everybody — my parents, friends, relatives, and fellow Sahaja

>Yogis — ridiculed, criticized, or ostracized me.

>

> " Some have said that no answer can be found to the mystery, for

>humans have created it and no suprahuman or supernatural answer

>exists. " This centuries-old dilemma that had allowed religious

>regimes to conjecture contradicting dogma could now be solved.

>

>i became resolute and reiterated that i would announce this Ultimate

>Reality, given the vast weight of unquestionable evidence, no matter

>how ridiculous others thought of my claims. It was imperative that i

>did so and allow the entire human race and history to judge, and not

>just a few skeptical individuals. The Truth had to be told no matter

>what the consequences. It was a moral duty that any conscientious

>human would most willingly do.

>

>In the end, after weeks of disturbance in my family, there was a

>compromise. i agreed to maintain silence and let things take their

>course, as required by my spouse, provided i be allowed to question

>Kash in detail and record all of his mystical experiences. i would

>then wait for the appropriate time to release them for the benefit

>of others.

>

>On April 2, 1995, at 11:20 a.m. Kash was told to obtain permission

>from the Great Universal Mother to reveal the Truth. He meditated

>and emerged through the clouds into the Land of Eternal Life. The

>Primal Light shone ever so brightly from above as the Great Goddess

>sat in Bliss and Joy. After bowing down and exchanging greetings, he

>asked if She would grant permission. The Devi gave Her blessings

>with a reminder that this intuitive Knowledge was especially for Her

>devotees.

>

>It was at this point that the actual compilation of his spiritual

>journeys began in earnest. Kash was questioned practically every

>day, sometimes repeatedly, to clarify and confirm what he saw,

>heard, thought, spoke, smelled, touched, and tasted. Often questions

>were asked suddenly when he least expected just to get him off-guard

>to confirm consistency. All answers came with a calm and nonchalant

>attitude, without contradiction.

>

>However, the adverse reactions from almost all SYs regarding the

>experiences of Kash experiences were disturbing. After a few months

>of writing i began deleting some revelations by the Shakti because i

>felt their controversial nature would make matter worse as SYs were

>already hostile and regarded all of us to be possessed and demonic.

>

>But that editing of evidence was not to be undertaken as far as the

>Devi was concerned.

>

>On December 27, 1995, at about 4:30 p.m. preparations to perform

>Christmas Puja were in progress. The house was dusted, vacuumed and

>mopped, the altar decorated with flowers and offerings, eating

>utensils washed, dried and arranged, and food for SYs laid on the

>dining table. Christmas carols uplifted the spirits, and made work

>light.

>

>Kash was alone in his room, deep in meditation. Shri Adhiparasakthi

>Devi spoke to him for about 10 minutes, inquiring about his state of

>mind. Kash told the Great Primordial Mother that he was still not

>ready spiritually. She replied that this was normal and he should

>lead an ordinary life, and that this book was not be published yet.

>

>The Great Devi then revealed to him that there were five special

>occasions, among his hundreds of encounters with Her in his

>Sahasrara, that She appeared in Her pure form and not as Mahamaya.

>By this She meant that Kash witnessed Her purest manifestation only

>five times, confirming that the controversial evidence i was trying

>to erase was absolutely true!

>

>The five occasions were:

>

>1. The very first day he saw Her. This was on the Diwali of November

>1993, the Hindu New Year.

>2. The day he came to request from Her for a baby sister. This day

>is unknown as Kash had done it on his own initiative, without

>informing anyone.

>3. April 3, 1994 ...

>4. April 18, 1994 ...

>5. July 26, 1995, the day She revealed that they had completed their

>Job on this Earth and ended Kash's mystical journeys into his own

>Sahasrara. (Arwinder and Lalita continue till date to meditate with

>Her in their Sahasraras.)

>

>Sooner or later the SYs will have to deal with the Devi within. They

>can focus all their attention on Her physical incarnation Shri

>Mataji Nirmala Devi. But the day will come when She will leave

>Earth. Maybe then they will come to understand what the Devi, the

>Great Goddess within, meant when She declared: " We have done our job

>here. "

>

>We too have done our job and presented all the evidence that made

>Her declare at Cabella, Italy on May 21, 1998 during the Shri Adi

>Shakti Puja:

>

> " Once this book is out all over the world, it will be known about

>our Work. We'll not be challenged any more. But still we have to see

>for ourselves, that if we have this kind of recognition or not, our

>capabilities should be up to that. "

>

>The time has come for WCASY to either end or complete the

>Inquisytion initiated by ex-world leader Yogi Mahajan so that my

>remaining enemies like Edward Suagstad are vanquished. If this does

>not take place then time will be the final judge and destroyer of

>all who do not accept the Truth witnessed by those who met Her in

>their Sahasraras. It will and must never be changed, altered or

>watered down to accommodate anyone, even myself, and the Shakti has

>made sure that never happens. WCASY can either end or complete the

>Inquisytion. But no matter what they decide we will never ever

>compromise the Truth. Sitting on the fence will only harm WACSY as

>history will be its the harshest judge and foe.

>

>

>Jai Shri Mataji,

>

>

>

>jagbir

>

>

>

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