Guest guest Posted December 15, 2005 Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 Declaration to all Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Jewish, Sikh and Taoists Believers of the World.... Everyone must know that the Day of Pentecost can truly be experienced because the Holy Spirit that JESUS said would come, HAS COME. Jesus said that this Holy Spirit would baptize you with the Spirit. When the Disciples of Jesus were all with one accord in the Upper Room with Jesus, they felt a MIGHTY WIND blow in them and around them and TONGUES OF FLAMES were seen above their heads. These were all signs that the Holy Spirit had come to them and that they had received their Baptism of the Holy Spirit. (Although we do not generally see these tongues of flames above people's heads, we do have various 'miracle' photographs that show what the naked eye cannot see). Today, those who have had the experience of Sahaja Yoga, which is the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, do feel this Wind that the Disciples felt on the Day of Pentecost. It is not a 'once-off' experience that only the Disciples felt long ago. It is an experience that is being felt by many Sahaja Yogis. A 'Sahaja Yogi' means a " born-of-the-Spirit " person. You can be a Christian 'Sahaja Yogi'.... a Muslim 'Sahaja Yogi'.... a Sikh 'Sahaja Yogi'.... a Jewish 'Sahaja Yogi'.... a Hindu 'Sahaja Yogi.... a Taoist 'Sahaja Yogi' or a Buddhist 'Sahaja Yogi'. However when you become a Sahaja Yogi (Born of the Spirit).... you receive All That Is and the spiritual elements of ALL faiths become part and parcel of your Spiritual Being. It is not only 12 Disciples that can today receive their Baptism of the Holy Spirit.... it is everyone who DESIRES it. Jesus said that His Spirit would be poured out upon All FLESH at this VERY, VERY TIME WHICH IS NOW! Here is the Story of the Day of Pentecost and the Disciples of Jesus who were the Sahaja Yogis of Jesus's Time: Acts.2 - (King James Version of the Bible) [1] And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. [2] And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. [3] And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. [4] And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. [5] And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. [6] Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language. [7] And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans? [8] And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born? [9] Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia, (10] Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes, [11] Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God. [12] And they were all amazed, and were in doubt, saying one to another, What meaneth this? [13] Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine. [14] But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words: [15] For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day. [16] But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; [17] And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: [18] And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy: [19] And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke: [20] The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come: [21] And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. [22] Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know: [23] Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain: [24] Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it. [25] For David speaketh concerning him, I foresaw the Lord always before my face, for he is on my right hand, that I should not be moved: [26] Therefore did my heart rejoice, and my tongue was glad; moreover also my flesh shall rest in hope: [27] Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. [28] Thou hast made known to me the ways of life; thou shalt make me full of joy with thy countenance. [29] Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day. [30] Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne; [31] He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption. [32] This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses. [33] Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear. [34] For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, [35] Until I make thy foes thy footstool. [36] Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. [37] Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do? [38] Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. [39] For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. [40] And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation. [41] Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. [42] And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers. [43] And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders and signs were done by the apostles. [44] And all that believed were together, and had all things common; [45] And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need. [46] And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart, [47] Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved. (Acts Chapter 2 - KJV) (http://www.hti.umich.edu/cgi/k/kjv/kjv-idx?type=DIV1 & byte=4870983) Violet - In , " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org> wrote: > > Dear Violet and All, > > This is the first time i am looking at and understanding one of the > main pillars of Christianity. Such answers greatly help all, giving > us the confidence and ability to further penetrate and destroy the > conditionings imposed by religious institutions on their followers. > i can honestly say that in all my years i have never come across > such an explanation since to Christians " the Wind that the Disciples > of Jesus felt on the Day of Pentecost was a 'once-off' experience > that happened especially at Jesus's Time and that it does not happen > today. " This is just great news. > > Since this Wind of the Disciples is indeed happening today in far > greater numbers, and sustained daily, we hardly can begin to > comprehend its implications. Such a collective experience involving > tens of thousands of SYs has an innate ability to eventually > overwhelm any doubt or opposition to Shri Mataji, who She really is, > and Her Message of Joy and Eternal Life. > > Having said that, i find no explanation or knowledge from any SY as > comparable to what you have posted, or at least in depth and > accuracy. From what i gather we SYs are dissuaded from explaining > Sahaja Yoga around religious themes, as if we will offend public > sensibilities. i believe this very cautious approach has come from > the fear that centuries of misinterpretation of the scriptures has > left a Doomsday mindset on faithful Jews, Christians and Muslims. > Management SYs, not Shri Mataji, continue to believe that the very > mention of Last Judgment will frighten seekers off. > > But we are beginning to prove that is not the case, and that such > fears are unfounded. The writing is also on the wall that if such > ingrained attitudes are not overcome and we are not transparent, > Sahaja Yoga will continue to remain as snailpaced as it has always > been for decades. The vital mechanism to trigger the 100th Monkey > Effect is still not placed due to (unfounded) fear of repurcussions. > > Thus, it is what you (and others too) bring forth from your > understanding and awareness that nourishes many, helping to slowly > overcome the deep religious conditionings and falsehoods that are > very difficult to neutralize unless sustained over a long period of > time with deep and diversified knowledge that truly sets us free. In > the end such seekers will realize that only they themselves, not the > employees of religious institutions, who can realize the Truth > within that is absolutely necessary to set them free. If i had > continued to listen to my temple priest i am sure i would never have > reached the spiritual level i am today. How can they teach anyone > about things that are beyond their comprehension or experience? > > That is why Shri Mataji insists that we become our own masters. > There is much more to this simple statement than meets the mind's > eye. Only you can eventually find out what it really means but will > never be able to explain that enlightenment. Those daily feeling the > Wind that the Disciples of Jesus felt on the Day of Pentecost must > always seek protection and guidance from the Divine Mother within, > from whom this Wind flows through our hands, head and other parts of > the body. Eventually the whole world must become aware and > experience the Wind that Jesus talked two millennia ago. > > with love and season's greetings, > > > > jagbir > > > , " Violet " <vtubb@b...> > wrote: > > > > Dear Jagbir and All, > > > > As a Fundamentalist Christian, i was brought up to believe that > the Wind that the Disciples of Jesus felt on the Day of Pentecost > was a 'once-off' experience that happened especially at Jesus's Time > and that it does not happen today. When i would anxiously ask my > parents why it cannot happen today, they would say that " it is a > different dispensation today... this was special for Jesus's time > only and it does not happen in our Time " . When i asked " Why not? " > they would say that.... " this is what the Ministers of the Church > have taught us and they know because they are very educated in these > matters, and have studied them extensively. " > > > > i was never happy with such explanations, however. Having read the > Bible and other spiritual books in the search for the Truth, and > having prayed and meditated and contemplated on Jesus, i was > reassured and determined in my heart that i could and would one day > have this experience. My parents could not convince me otherwise. > Even then, i did not believe that this kind of knowledge came from > Ministers of the Church, who might be learned in book knowledge and > religious education, but did not reveal any evidence of that > spiritual knowledge that comes from within. > > > > Through some spiritual friends that i met through an Interschool > Christian Fellowship (I.S.C.F), i found others who thought like > myself. A number of us, including my brother and myself started > going to the Pentecostal Church at about the age of 15-16 years of > age. Although i never felt the Cool Breeze of the Holy Ghost in the > Pentecostal faith, i had a deep faith within and believed that all > things are possible with God. > > > > Eventually, i found to my disappointment that the 'Pentecostal > way' emotionally drained me, and at times i became downright > emotionally exhausted, and i left the Pentecostal Church. (i realize > now through Sahaja Yoga, that this 'exhaustion' is due to the need > for a 'Pentecostal Person' to continually maintain a sort > of 'euphoric state' because they believe that if this euphoric state > is not maintained, it is the equivalent to not being 'in the Spirit'. > > > > In 'Sahaj' terminology, i realize i was just swinging from left to > right mood swings (of the left and right sympathetic nervous > system). In Sahaja Yoga, when we have our connection or Baptism of > the Holy Spirit, we are then connected and centred in the central > channel of the Parasympathetic Nervous System. These emotional > swings between euphoria and depression, then stop. A person then > becomes balanced between the two emotional ranges, and settles down > to a steady joyous and blissful life. This requires constant effort > of meditation, of course, and perseverance, however, it cannot > happen without first having the connection to the Divine in the form > of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit that Shri Mataji the Holy Spirit > gives. > > > > Now.... many years later.... through the Advent of Shri Mataji > Nirmala Devi, whom i know without any doubt at all to be the > Comforter that Jesus promised would come at this Last Judgment and > Resurrection Time, i have and do experience this same Wind that the > Disciples of Jesus experienced on the Day of Pentecost, and i do not > experience it only 'one off'; i experience it regularly. > > > > i very frequently meditate out-of-doors. It can be a still, calm > day with no wind around. Yet when i start to meditate, i feel a Wind > come up and swirl around me. It is a very beautiful Wind that > breathes its Love, Playfulness, and Protection around and within me. > It just arises from.... i don't know where.... and encircles me and > even blows around my back yard, rustling through the leaves of > trees, and flowers and shrubs around where i am. > > > > This Wind also sometimes gives me an awareness of things. These > are things that are understood by the Spirit only, and cannot be > talked about. This Wind also gives me an integrated feeling of > Oneness with All That Is. A person has to experience this for > themselves in order to know what i am talking about. i know many > Sahaja Yogis have already experienced this. It is not uncommon > anymore. > > > > The great thing for me is that this is the same Wind that the > Disciples experienced on the Day of Pentecost! My spiritual quest > has come true! And this experience is also my very own personal > proof of who Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi is. She is the One who has > enabled me to experience this Baptism of the Holy Spirit. She is the > Comforter/Holy Spirit that Jesus said would come on Earth. > > > > My wish for this Christmas of 2005.... is that those who desire > it.... will also receive this Gift of Spiritual Birth. As more and > more of us on Earth have our Spiritual Birth or Real Baptism of the > Holy Spirit, we will truly have Peace on Earth and Goodwill Towards > All Men. This is the beginning of a new Age of the Spirit, where Man > again will walk with God and God will walk them Man and Man will > again experience the True Spiritual Reality. > > > > So.... i am sorry to say, Jagbir, that Wind of the Holy Spirit, > has been downplayed in Christianity so as to make it virtually non- > existent. However, we can let everyone know that She is here and > very existent and that everyone who desires it, can drink from this > Fountain of Life. > > > > Love and best wishes to All for this Christmas Season of 2005, > > > > Violet > > > > > > , " jagbir singh " > > <adishakti_org> wrote: > > > > > > , " jagbir singh " > > > <adishakti_org> wrote: > > > > > > > > Perhaps the desire to work collectively towards 21st. February > > > > 2013 has begun to clear the negativity in the first week > itself. > > > > These are subtle signs for us to understand. i have something > to > > > > say too. > > > > > > > > Last night my daughter Lalita came into my room to meditate > after > > > > decorating the Christmas tree. (Earlier she and her eldest > > brother > > > > had pleaded with me to buy the tree right away from the nearby > > > > mall. BTW, we always celebrate the Christmas of Shri Jesus, not > > > > Santa Claus.) > > > > > > > > Lalita sat on the bed beside me and whispered in my ears that > she > > > > has something to tell me. i asked her what it was. Lalita > replied > > > > she had a wonderful experience where, while meditating, she > > > > requested Shri Mataji to pour all Her goodness into her. As > soon > > > > as she made that request a tremendous amount of Cool Breeze > began > > > > to flow out of her hands. > > > > > > > > But Lalita never expected the Cool Breeze to be " sooooo much " , > to > > > > the extend that her hands became quite cold. That made her rub > > the > > > > hands all over her face, arms, legs and body as the torrent of > > > > Cool Breeze just kept on flowing. It was the only way to warm > > > > them, all the more since it is winter here. Her hands were > indeed > > > > cold and she had to use her body heat to make them warm and > > > > comfortable again. That must indeed have been a lot of Cool > Wind. > > > > > > > > " The wind blows where it wants to, and you hear its sound, but > > > > don't know where it comes from and where it is going. So is > > > > everyone who is born of the Spirit. " John 3.8 > > > > > > > > i know Lalita had a great experience because she almost never > > > > talks about them ............ unless (when) something > > extraordinary > > > > happens. > > > > > > > > i thanked her and told her to continue meditation, which she > did. > > > > There was no image or altar to put external attention, just on > > the > > > > Divine Mother within. > > > > > > > > i lay in bed thinking of her experience which had moved me. > Here > > > > was a child saying something that i had not experienced, > perhaps > > > > because i still do not have the genuine innocence that children > > > > have despite years of meditating. That was when i thought of > > Chuck > > > > and felt in my heart that here is a few months-old SY who is > > > > capable of achieving a state that Shri Mataji wants us to > attain: > > > > > > > > When asked who was the greatest in the Kingdom of God, Jesus > > > > answered, " Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like > > > > children, you will never enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Whoever > > > > becomes humble like this child is the greatest in the Kingdom > of > > > > Heaven. Whoever welcomes one such child in My name welcomes > Me. " > > > > [Mt. 18:1-3] ... > > > > > > > > > > > > Jesus answered and said unto him, > > > > Verily, verily I say unto thee, except a man born be born > again, > > > > He cannot see the Kingdom of God. > > > > Nicodemus saith unto him, > > > > How can a man be born again when he is old? > > > > Can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be > born? > > > > Jesus answered: Verily, verily, I say unto thee, > > > > Except a man born of water and the Spirit, > > > > He cannot enter into the Kingdom of God. > > > > That which is born of flesh is flesh and that which is born of > > > > Spirit is spirit, > > > > Marvel not that I said unto thee: Ye must be born again. > > > > The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound > > > > thereof, > > > > But cannot tell whence it comes and where it goeth: > > > > So is every one that is born of the Spirit. > > > > > > > > John 3:3-8 > > > > > > > > > > > > It is written both in the Qur'an and Bible that during Qiyamah > > > > (Resurrection) those who get their Self-Realization (Baptism > of > > > > Allah) will have Cool Breeze or Wind coming out of their > hands, > > > > head and other parts of the body. The " hands will speak " to > > inform > > > > the individual of any wrong-doing on a particular finger(s) > > which > > > > correspond to certain problems. This experience is part and > > parcel > > > > of the human subtle system which is activated after the > Baptism > > of > > > > Allah (Self-Realization). > > > > > > > > Prophet Jesus also preached that those born again of the > Spirit > > > > will experience the Wind, but will have no idea where it comes > > > > from or goes, i.e., this is not the normal wind which humans > > daily > > > > experience but a Divine Wind from within. > > > > > > > > The word Ruh comes from the same root as rahah. It is also > > related > > > > to rih, which means 'wind', mirwahah, meaning 'fan', and > > istirwah > > > > which means 'respiration'. The term " Spirit " translates the > > Hebrew > > > > word ruah, which, in its primary sense, means 'breath', 'air', > > > > 'wind'. Jesus indeed uses the sensory image of the wind to > > suggest > > > > to Nicodemus the transcendent newness of him who is personally > > > > God's breath, the divine Spirit. (Jn 3:3-8) > > > > > > > > So how does one account for Cool Breeze blowing out of hands > and > > > > head, especially during meditation which is a daily experience > > of > > > > all Sahaja Yogis? > > > > > > > > > > Dear Carol, Violet and others, > > > > > > i want to know what Christians think of John 3:3-8, especially > > that > > > of the Cool Wind. This is an extremely important, if not the > most > > > important, requirement for salvation i.e., transformation or > > > evolution from a physical into a spirit being. It is clear that > > the > > > Cool Breeze/vibrations are experienced daily by almost all SYs, > a > > > phenomena that has no comparison. In the first place, i have yet > > to > > > read similar experiences among the faithful anywhere - whether > > Jews, > > > Christian or Muslims - even though the Bible and Qur'an confirms > > > humans will experience the Cool Wind. By similar experiences i > > mean > > > they must be a daily and sustained occurrence. > > > > > > i believe if we discuss these issues with honesty and > constructive > > > criticism, sans religious conditionings, we may be able to make > > more > > > people understand what being born of the Spirit/kundalini > > awakening > > > really means. Shri Mataji has proven to all Her devotees > > that " every > > > one that is born of the Spirit " will feel the Cool Breeze daily, > > for > > > the rest of their lives. To usher Satya Yuga we have to prove, > > with > > > the backing of scriptural evidence and collective experiences, > > that > > > Shri Mataji is indeed the long-awaited Messiah that all the holy > > > scriptures promised will arrive to teach humanity. And the Adi > > > Shakti has requested that we must prove She is that. We SYs have > > to > > > assure, through our own experiences and knowledge, that seekers > > > believe She is indeed the Adi Shakti. Post by post, discussion > by > > > discussion, and experience by experience we have to compile the > > > database of irrefutable evidence to present humanity before > 21st. > > > February 2013. > > > > > > with love and season's greetings, > > > > > > > > > jagbir > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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