Guest guest Posted December 27, 2005 Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 JSM Jagbir thanks for yr words. actually im unable to digest the idea for seeing doc for the left of my heart. not coz im careless or so. Certainly its related to my progress in meditation.or in other way its 'Adishakti' that is manifesting its power , so i feel. Coz while writing this mail im certainly convinced that there is nothing to worried for this.i also feel that amidst all wordly affairs there is something that is taking care of not only me but we all SY. SO WHERE IS NEED TO GO TO doc. It may be also my negative 'karmas' accumulated during the earlier phase of life that is before i b'come SY, or it may be cleaning some ba tantrik influnces over me so i feel a sort of opening up a layer of uotings in my left cycle. tel me by your vibration how you feel abt all this. But im not goin to see any doc.certainly not. JSM saurabh india jagbir singh <adishakti_org wrote: Dear Yaksi,i will agree too with Carol because i am talking about the subtle centre heart, not the physical left heart. If you have problems with the left heart then it wil be advisable to see a doctor and be on the safe side.regards,jagbir , "danny weaver" <cdweaver32@h...> wrote:>> Dear Yaski,> > Should not take chances with heart things and see a doctor to be safe, THEN > again work with meditations, make sure first you do not have a medical > situation going on, so that you do not become gravely ill, before getting to > Dr. always better to check with heart things. Go from there later. Tightness > you spoke of before ( as you must know) is one sign to not play around with. > It can also be anxiety, and stress and Holidays are stresful, may only be in > that line.> > Carol Ann> > PS meditation can be helpful of ocourse but lets be resonable too. Anxiety > can do alot and you should not let the signs go by without a check further > in the matter. I do not play games with peoples lives. Prayer works but we > all need other intervention to be safe.> > > >yaski wath <wordswar>> > > > > >Re: Heart chakra> >Tue, 27 Dec 2005 09:49:40 +0000 (GMT)> >> >JSM> > While in meditation i feel that around my heart there are some > >theads in forms of currents flow IN ALL 3 DIRECTIONS. . Also a sort of mild > >movement as if something opening the upper lining of my heart. But all this > >gives good feelings ultimately. can any one giude me more> > JSM> > SAURABH> >> >Max Zorin <kolobos281@h...> wrote:> > Fellow yogis> >> >Over the past week I have been experiencing feelings of tightness in my> >chest and sensations of feeling anxious. I understand that this is a> >catch with the heart chakra. I've tried candle treatment and breathing> >exercises (those where you breath in and out deeply with the hand on> >the heart and those where you breath in, hold your breath and than> >exhale). These have helped. Does anyone know of any further treatments> >for the heart chakra or pherhaps some other breathing exercises I have> >not yet tried.> >> >Max> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 Dear Saurabh, This is a public forum and non-SYs may think we are fanatical if our balanced nature is not demonstrated. If i were to insist that you need not see a doctor because the Mother Kundalini cures all then i am a fanatic. But that does not mean i do not have faith in the Mother Kundalini. You should know we are just scratching the surface with this new knowledge and powers triggered from its awakening. So we still have a long way to go, with some making greater progress than others. Thus what is good for the gander may not necessarily be good for the goose. For all i know you are a well established SY who may never need to see a doctor for your heart, which is being healed and nourished by the Spirit and Love. It is indeed slowly opening like a delicate flower in bloom. Having said that elderly newcomers should not read too much and do the same, perhaps compromising their health. i too had a left heart catch for a long time, 'frozen' and pained by the collective anti-God activities of certain SYs against my family. i never went to see a doctor despite free medical consultation as i always knew it was caused by what these murmuring souls were doing. i could even feel their havans and collective shoebeats against me because that was when it pained the most. Only last year was the catch overcome and all my negative feelings about these SYs were destroyed. This was a significant spiritual experience because i even told my wife that my heart is finally getting 'warm' again and that all pain is gone. So probably you need not see a doctor but those new should take care because only after doing meditation for some time will you be able to overcome health problems and heal yourself. In the meantime, if there are physical problems you should always see a doctor. Those meditating for years on Shri Mataji have less to worry about health issues because they can use vibrations and the Mother Kundalini, not medications, to heal. (At times it is advisable to combine both.) Whoever practises Sahaja Yoga over a sustained period will have such powers too, sometimes advancing even further than those already establsihed in the practise. Then a visit to the doctor becomes less and less frequent. Prevention is always better than cure and Sahaja Yoga has cured many from cigarette, drug, alcohol and pornography addiction. It took my family, friends and relatives many years to be finally convinced that i have quit all these. Till today my habits and consumption records are used as benchmarks by friends still indulging in these vices. That the Mother Kundalini destroyed all cravings instantly is beyond my understanding. SYs consult doctors significantly less because many vices are eliminated at the beginning and the meditation itself alleviates stress, the scourge of many modern health problems. Heal the mind and you prevent so many future diseases. There will be no preventive medication or doctors to neutralize the pollution of the mind, only meditation and Silence. Happy Holidays, jagbir , yaski wath <wordswar> wrote: > > JSM > Jagbir > thanks for yr words. actually im unable to digest the idea for seeing doc for the left of my heart. not coz im careless or so. Certainly its related to my progress in meditation.or in other way its 'Adishakti' that is manifesting its power , so i feel. Coz while writing this mail im certainly convinced that there is nothing to worried for this.i also feel that amidst all wordly affairs there is something that is taking care of not only me but we all SY. SO WHERE IS NEED TO GO TO doc. > It may be also my negative 'karmas' accumulated during the earlier phase of life that is before i b'come SY, or it may be cleaning some ba tantrik influnces over me so i feel a sort of opening up a layer of uotings in my left cycle. tel me by your vibration how you feel abt all this. But im not goin to see any doc.certainly not. > > JSM > saurabh > india > > jagbir singh <adishakti_org> wrote: > > > Dear Yaksi, > > i will agree too with Carol because i am talking about the subtle > centre heart, not the physical left heart. If you have problems with > the left heart then it wil be advisable to see a doctor and be on > the safe side. > > regards, > > jagbir > > > , " danny weaver " > <cdweaver32@h...> wrote: > > > > Dear Yaski, > > > > Should not take chances with heart things and see a doctor to be > safe, THEN > > again work with meditations, make sure first you do not have a > medical > > situation going on, so that you do not become gravely ill, before > getting to > > Dr. always better to check with heart things. Go from there later. > Tightness > > you spoke of before ( as you must know) is one sign to not play > around with. > > It can also be anxiety, and stress and Holidays are stresful, may > only be in > > that line. > > > > Carol Ann > > > > PS meditation can be helpful of ocourse but lets be resonable too. > Anxiety > > can do alot and you should not let the signs go by without a check > further > > in the matter. I do not play games with peoples lives. Prayer > works but we > > all need other intervention to be safe. > > > > > > >yaski wath <wordswar> > > > > > > > > >Re: Heart chakra > > >Tue, 27 Dec 2005 09:49:40 +0000 (GMT) > > > > > >JSM > > > While in meditation i feel that around my heart there > are some > > >theads in forms of currents flow IN ALL 3 DIRECTIONS. . Also a > sort of mild > > >movement as if something opening the upper lining of my heart. > But all this > > >gives good feelings ultimately. can any one giude me more > > > JSM > > > SAURABH > > > > > >Max Zorin <kolobos281@h...> wrote: > > > Fellow yogis > > > > > >Over the past week I have been experiencing feelings of tightness > in my > > >chest and sensations of feeling anxious. I understand that this > is a > > >catch with the heart chakra. I've tried candle treatment and > breathing > > >exercises (those where you breath in and out deeply with the hand > on > > >the heart and those where you breath in, hold your breath and than > > >exhale). These have helped. Does anyone know of any further > treatments > > >for the heart chakra or pherhaps some other breathing exercises I > have > > >not yet tried. > > > > > >Max > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 Think you are alright also, but this is a Nurse talking.......Certainly have seen all sides of life. Personally think you are just fine....... BUT, only YOU know how it feels for YOU.......You are your OWN Master, remember? Carol >yaski wath <wordswar > > > no need for doc. for heart >Wed, 28 Dec 2005 06:45:08 +0000 (GMT) > >JSM > Jagbir > thanks for yr words. actually im unable to digest the >idea for seeing doc for the left of my heart. not coz im careless or so. >Certainly its related to my progress in meditation.or in other way its >'Adishakti' that is manifesting its power , so i feel. Coz while writing >this mail im certainly convinced that there is nothing to worried for >this.i also feel that amidst all wordly affairs there is something that is >taking care of not only me but we all SY. SO WHERE IS NEED TO GO TO doc. > It may be also my negative 'karmas' accumulated during the >earlier phase of life that is before i b'come SY, or it may be cleaning >some ba tantrik influnces over me so i feel a sort of opening up a layer of >uotings in my left cycle. tel me by your vibration how you feel abt all >this. But im not goin to see any doc.certainly not. > > JSM > saurabh > india > >jagbir singh <adishakti_org wrote: > > >Dear Yaksi, > >i will agree too with Carol because i am talking about the subtle >centre heart, not the physical left heart. If you have problems with >the left heart then it wil be advisable to see a doctor and be on >the safe side. > >regards, > >jagbir > > > , " danny weaver " ><cdweaver32@h...> wrote: > > > > Dear Yaski, > > > > Should not take chances with heart things and see a doctor to be >safe, THEN > > again work with meditations, make sure first you do not have a >medical > > situation going on, so that you do not become gravely ill, before >getting to > > Dr. always better to check with heart things. Go from there later. >Tightness > > you spoke of before ( as you must know) is one sign to not play >around with. > > It can also be anxiety, and stress and Holidays are stresful, may >only be in > > that line. > > > > Carol Ann > > > > PS meditation can be helpful of ocourse but lets be resonable too. >Anxiety > > can do alot and you should not let the signs go by without a check >further > > in the matter. I do not play games with peoples lives. Prayer >works but we > > all need other intervention to be safe. > > > > > > >yaski wath <wordswar> > > > > > > > > >Re: Heart chakra > > >Tue, 27 Dec 2005 09:49:40 +0000 (GMT) > > > > > >JSM > > > While in meditation i feel that around my heart there >are some > > >theads in forms of currents flow IN ALL 3 DIRECTIONS. . Also a >sort of mild > > >movement as if something opening the upper lining of my heart. >But all this > > >gives good feelings ultimately. can any one giude me more > > > JSM > > > SAURABH > > > > > >Max Zorin <kolobos281@h...> wrote: > > > Fellow yogis > > > > > >Over the past week I have been experiencing feelings of tightness >in my > > >chest and sensations of feeling anxious. I understand that this >is a > > >catch with the heart chakra. I've tried candle treatment and >breathing > > >exercises (those where you breath in and out deeply with the hand >on > > >the heart and those where you breath in, hold your breath and than > > >exhale). These have helped. Does anyone know of any further >treatments > > >for the heart chakra or pherhaps some other breathing exercises I >have > > >not yet tried. > > > > > >Max > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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