Heart chakra : will consult doctor soon.

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JSM THANKS FOR YOUR RESPONSES. Jagbir, Violet, Carol, Mr.khatri and the other SY WHOSE names am forgetting for their overwhelming concerns and deep insight. A bit abt myself......am in 2nd year of my meditation now . while i led a life on certain bad precedent and owing to that landed in turmoil..and lost my faith in this world....at the same time I was told abt Shri mataji or let me put it in other way round She came to rescue me. here 2 things should be told. when not a SY once in main center of delhi when sy were doing puja there. i just went inside , felt good and as others were doing some hand excercise (now i know they were taking 'bandhans') i did it in simple way even not knowing or understanding it

fully.But somehow it was inside me that its something really deep and spiritual and always had deep respect for such things. then 1 or 2 more small visit to centre and it was over. 2nd thing arose after another 2 years. am in short filmmaking. in 2002 was asked to do a shrt film on a person who had lost control below his lower body.Despite that he is today very sucessfull person thereby a role model for the people having that sort of impediment (so called) when i asked him what was the real support behind his sucess he revealed he was SY and showed picture of SMJ in his house.this all im telling bcoz it has relevancy to me and as how i was subtly drawn into Shri mataji lap. Then i thought as Mata ji has been such a powerful force behind that person, so i accomodated the photograph of the SJM in the film i did on that

person. But my Producer though a very learned and respected person annoyed with me from some earlier instances this time fired me. well i knew it something is going very deep there that was in formation but did not h,v vision to grasp it fully. Life moved on but this time i was badly down as someone betrayed me in such a bizzare way and suddenly i was confined to bed and on the verge of mental breakdown. All that was mine was lost...friend , career,hope even faith. Such was the the blow.though in other way it was all rasult of my bad 'karmas' Now Shri mataji was perhaps seeing this all since my first by chance or may be ordained visit to delhi main center. At that time i met a person who was SY who initiated me into SY finally & formally.And believe it in last 1 year things hv changed quite a lot .And i feel the biggest and main part

of it is yet to happen. that will be taking place as the 'kundalini' works it out.i dont hv to do it .sometimes still mind takes it stand but ultimately 'kundalini' works it out. the other thing is that a lot of tantrik things hv been done that was before i joined SY AND was decieved on that front as was made to believe that it was done for my wellbeing and there was no reason not to believe this. as the person behind this all was to whom i had long relationship and was engaged also .but this all was such a mess and i could not detect in time . As sometime i feel a slight pain my heart, then as if a weight is being removed from the outer walls of my heart then its getting connected to 'microcosm' .i pray to mother kundalini then i get the answer that those people are still indulging in some tantrik ....sorts of things. Mother kundalini has

been very kind to me amidst all this as so lovingly she is guiding me all through this......And today i am writing this when not so long ago i was on the verge of breakdown.... i feel that its Mother kundalini who is working out on all my chakras.Infact it has been very good interaction and with blessing of Mata Ji am realising that i should see doctor as told by so many people here . Give me some time ( a week , shall hv ECG done). And hear from Doctor. Please let me know what your vibration say. thanks again. Jai Shri Mata Ji saurabh Violet <vtubb wrote: Dear Saurabh,Some yogini friends and myself all in the same week once felt stirrings in the heart that were unusual. We all remarked upon it, and realized that this must be a Collective Heart Clearing. (Btw, it also happened with other Subtle Centres as well and at different times). It felt like a 'pushing' and a 'clearing' feeling which was uniquely different to anything any of us had experienced before. It was also a beneficial feeling of something good happening within us, and so we were thankful for the knowledge that the Kundalini Mother was helping us from Within. She was working with us and helping us to open our hearts more and more. i know that Shri Mataji often told us that She was clearing the Collective Subtle Being of Humanity. i would say that this accounted for the unusual and varous stirrings that we all felt on an individual and/or collective basis, over a period of

time. i believe that this is also what is happening to you, Saurabh.... that the Mother Kundalini is working along with you to help you. As Jagbir has said, these are all very good signs. (i would like to say here that Kundalini Clearings feel different to any other symptoms that i have ever felt in the body and that is probably why you sense/feel/know this too, Saurabh.)The important thing to know is that, according to Shri Mataji, a person can have their Kundalini awakened, but if their Heart is not Open, then it is of no use. Shri Mataji says that in the same way that the Mother Earth sends forth Her power through the seed for the seed to open, so also does the Kundalini Mother send Her Power to open up the Stony Seed of the Heart for it to open and bloom. She also says that the Heart is like a stone, unless there is the Light of the Spirit within. i will leave you with Shri Mataji's Words, Saurabh, and hope that this information will help you.

Violet "I've awakened your Kundalini; one part I've done.... but another part that is your heart.... you have not opened. You must give your heart to Sahaja Yoga. (Complete Union with the Divine)You have not opened your heart as yet. Heart has to be opened. IN A DOUBTLESS WAY. Then only doubtless awareness will settle down. Unless and until you open your heart, Kundalini rising has no meaning. Because the Kundalini is rising but the heart has not opened.If the Mother Earth sends forth Her power through the seed and the seed doesn't open, then what's the use? It's all a myth. Open your heart to Sahaja Yoga. OPEN YOUR HEART TO SPIRIT, AND SAY, "MOTHER WE ARE THE SPIRIT." YOU HAVE TO REALIZE THIS. What do you have in your heart? Your heart will be like a stone. Unless there is light of the Spirit, it is a stone heart.... and this stone is going to hurt everyone.... is going to ruin you completely. OPEN YOUR HEART HUNDRED PERCENT. WE HAVE

FOUND OUR HEART.... NOW, LET US BECOME THE HEART!"(Guru Nanak's Birthday, Nirmala Palace London, 1st November, 1982) , "jagbir singh" <adishakti_org> wrote:>> , yaski wath > <wordswar> wrote:> >> > JSM> > While in meditation i feel that around my heart there are > some theads in forms of currents flow IN ALL 3 DIRECTIONS. . Also a > sort of mild movement as if something opening the upper lining of my > heart. But all this gives good feelings ultimately. can any one giude > me more> > JSM> > SAURABH> > > > Let your heart open/heal on its own. Just keep on meditating as all > are positive signs. Since you can feel your heart

blossoming, where > resides the Spirit, just enjoy it. Maybe other members can add.> > jagbir> Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.

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Dear Saurabh,

 

Thank you for your story you related, which helps us get a clearer picture of

what is happening. When i read your post, i felt a very warm (hearted) feeling,

meaning a good feeling from your heart, and also it was a very powerful feeling

from your heart, like there is something definitely strongly at work there.

 

It also felt to me like there is all this pent-up powerful feeling in your

heart, which is about to explode, and that you are needing to release the heart

valve (figuratively speaking) to allow for the flow of all this energy.

 

i can only describe what i felt from you, and yes it is most unusual for me to

say such things on the forum, however, we are all connected on a subtle level,

and because i felt this, i also felt, i should tell you.

 

One way to help the flow of this heart energy is to thank Mata ji for Her Love,

and from the sounds of it, you are doing so. The only way i see you going, is

spiritually deeper, Saurabh.

 

i hope this helps.

 

Violet

 

 

, yaski wath

<wordswar> wrote:

>

> JSM

> THANKS FOR YOUR RESPONSES.

>

> Jagbir, Violet, Carol, Mr.khatri and the other SY WHOSE names

am forgetting for their overwhelming concerns and deep insight.

>

> A bit abt myself......am in 2nd year of my meditation now .

while i led a life on certain bad precedent and owing to that landed

in turmoil..and lost my faith in this world....at the same time I

was told abt Shri mataji or let me put it in other way round She

came to rescue me. here 2 things should be told.

>

> when not a SY once in main center of delhi when sy were

doing puja there. i just went inside , felt good and as others were

doing some hand excercise (now i know they were taking 'bandhans') i

did it in simple way even not knowing or understanding it fully.But

somehow it was inside me that its something really deep and

spiritual and always had deep respect for such things. then 1 or 2

more small visit to centre and it was over.

>

> 2nd thing arose after another 2 years.

>

> am in short filmmaking. in 2002 was asked to do a shrt film on

a person who had lost control below his lower body.Despite that he

is today very sucessfull person thereby a role model for the people

having that sort of impediment (so called) when i asked him what was

the real support behind his sucess he revealed he was SY and showed

picture of SMJ in his house.this all im telling bcoz it has

relevancy to me and as how i was subtly drawn into Shri mataji lap.

> Then i thought as Mata ji has been such a powerful force

behind that person, so i accomodated the photograph of the SJM in

the film i did on that person. But my Producer though a very learned

and respected person annoyed with me from some earlier instances

this time fired me. well i knew it something is going very deep

there that was in formation but did not h,v vision to grasp it

fully. Life moved on but this time i was badly down as someone

betrayed me in such a bizzare way and suddenly i was confined to bed

and on the verge of mental breakdown. All that was mine was

lost...friend , career,hope even faith. Such was the the blow.though

in other way it was all rasult of my bad 'karmas'

> Now Shri mataji was perhaps seeing this all since my

first by chance or may be ordained visit to delhi main center. At

that time i met a person who was SY who initiated me into SY

finally & formally.And believe it in last 1 year things hv changed

quite a lot .And i feel the biggest and main part of it is yet to

happen. that will be taking place as the 'kundalini' works it out.i

dont hv to do it .sometimes still mind takes it stand but

ultimately 'kundalini' works it out.

> the other thing is that a lot of tantrik things hv been done

that was before i joined SY AND was decieved on that front as was

made to believe that it was done for my wellbeing and there was no

reason not to believe this. as the person behind this all was to

whom i had long relationship and was engaged also .but this all was

such a mess and i could not detect in time . As sometime i feel a

slight pain my heart, then as if a weight is being removed from the

outer walls of my heart then its getting connected to 'microcosm' .i

pray to mother kundalini then i get the answer that those people are

still indulging in some tantrik ....sorts of things.

> Mother kundalini has been very kind to me amidst all this

as so lovingly she is guiding me all through this......And today i

am writing this when not so long ago i was on the verge of

breakdown....

>

> i feel that its Mother kundalini who is working out on

all my chakras.Infact it has been very good interaction and with

blessing of Mata Ji am realising that i should see doctor as told by

so many people here . Give me some time ( a week , shall hv ECG

done). And hear from Doctor.

>

> Please let me know what your vibration say.

> thanks again.

>

> Jai Shri Mata Ji

>

> saurabh

>

>

> Violet <vtubb@b...> wrote:

> Dear Saurabh,

>

> Some yogini friends and myself all in the same week once felt

stirrings in the heart that were unusual. We all remarked upon it,

and realized that this must be a Collective Heart Clearing. (Btw, it

also happened with other Subtle Centres as well and at different

times). It felt like a 'pushing' and a 'clearing' feeling which was

uniquely different to anything any of us had experienced before. It

was also a beneficial feeling of something good happening within us,

and so we were thankful for the knowledge that the Kundalini Mother

was helping us from Within. She was working with us and helping us

to open our hearts more and more.

>

> i know that Shri Mataji often told us that She was clearing the

Collective Subtle Being of Humanity. i would say that this accounted

for the unusual and varous stirrings that we all felt on an

individual and/or collective basis, over a period of time.

>

> i believe that this is also what is happening to you, Saurabh....

that the Mother Kundalini is working along with you to help you. As

Jagbir has said, these are all very good signs. (i would like to say

here that Kundalini Clearings feel different to any other symptoms

that i have ever felt in the body and that is probably why you

sense/feel/know this too, Saurabh.)

>

> The important thing to know is that, according to Shri Mataji, a

person can have their Kundalini awakened, but if their Heart is not

Open, then it is of no use. Shri Mataji says that in the same way

that the Mother Earth sends forth Her power through the seed for the

seed to open, so also does the Kundalini Mother send Her Power to

open up the Stony Seed of the Heart for it to open and bloom. She

also says that the Heart is like a stone, unless there is the Light

of the Spirit within.

>

> i will leave you with Shri Mataji's Words, Saurabh, and hope that

this information will help you.

>

> Violet

>

>

> " I've awakened your Kundalini; one part I've done.... but another

part that is your heart.... you have not opened. You must give your

heart to Sahaja Yoga. (Complete Union with the Divine)

>

> You have not opened your heart as yet. Heart has to be opened. IN

A DOUBTLESS WAY. Then only doubtless awareness will settle down.

Unless and until you open your heart, Kundalini rising has no

meaning. Because the Kundalini is rising but the heart has not

opened.

>

> If the Mother Earth sends forth Her power through the seed and the

seed doesn't open, then what's the use? It's all a myth. Open your

heart to Sahaja Yoga. OPEN YOUR HEART TO SPIRIT, AND SAY, " MOTHER WE

ARE THE SPIRIT. " YOU HAVE TO REALIZE THIS.

>

> What do you have in your heart? Your heart will be like a stone.

Unless there is light of the Spirit, it is a stone heart.... and

this stone is going to hurt everyone.... is going to ruin you

completely. OPEN YOUR HEART HUNDRED PERCENT. WE HAVE FOUND OUR

HEART.... NOW, LET US BECOME THE HEART! "

>

> (Guru Nanak's Birthday, Nirmala Palace London, 1st November, 1982)

>

>

> , " jagbir singh "

> <adishakti_org> wrote:

> >

> > , yaski wath

> > <wordswar> wrote:

> > >

> > > JSM

> > > While in meditation i feel that around my heart

there

> are

> > some theads in forms of currents flow IN ALL 3 DIRECTIONS. .

Also

> a

> > sort of mild movement as if something opening the upper lining

of

> my

> > heart. But all this gives good feelings ultimately. can any one

> giude

> > me more

> > > JSM

> > > SAURABH

> > >

> >

> > Let your heart open/heal on its own. Just keep on meditating as

> all

> > are positive signs. Since you can feel your heart blossoming,

> where

> > resides the Spirit, just enjoy it. Maybe other members can add.

> >

> > jagbir

> >

>

>