Brother Shane: But even 99.9% truth and .1% untruth is still not the Truth.

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Dear Violet,

 

i read your private emails and understand your apprehension to join

such conditioned Christians. Who would not be if, after pointing out

the www.adishakti.org website at the first Christian forum you

joined, the response from The Messenger's moderator(s) is:

 

" Not to say that there might not be any truth in it. I'm sure there

is. But even 99.9% truth and .1% untruth is still not the Truth.

 

We know it only takes one word added or taken away to make it a lie

of the devil. "

 

 

Why argue with someone who can strike down any truth by reason of a

single word?!!! Why waste energy with someone who regards 99.9%

truth and .1% untruth is still not the Truth?!!! These Christian

fundamentalists are so weird and frightening. (Henry and Carol, can

you justify/reason with me why there is such a rigid, dogmatic stand

among Christian fanatics? Does the Holy Ghost not make them balanced

in mind and body?)

 

But Violet, the Divine Message is exactly what Shri Jesus wants all

Christians to listen through the Comforter Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi.

And His bidding cannot be done by those of little conviction and

knowledge, but by those who are inspired and strengthened by Her

Divine Message to all humanity. You have to know the facts when

facing such people because they will use anything, even a single

word to strike you down.

 

Oppostion to Shri Mataji will come from all religious folks, whether

they are Christians, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists and

what not. These people are defending their own religions to the

exclusion of all others. Christian fundamentalists have this habit

of standing on high grounds but will not hesitate to twist the Bible

as long as it suits their purpose. For example brother Shane claims

that " the Comforter is Jesus...and Jesus is the comforter. He is one

and the same " , despite facts to the contrary. It is so easy for such

preachers to brainwash their congregation who become blind to bible

facts just to accommodate his views. BTW, brother Shane, we too are

inclined to believe, in your case, that it only takes one word added

or taken away to make it a lie of the devil. So who made you lie

about Jesus being the Comforter?, when the Bible says that:

 

 

" And Jesus spoke again unto the eleven and said,

" Grieve not because I go away for it is best that I should go away.

If I do not go away the Comforter will not come to you.

These things I speak while with you in the flesh,

But when the Holy Breath shall come in power, lo,

She will teach you more and more,

And bring to you remembrance all the words I have said to you.

There are a multitude of things yet to be said;

Things that this age cannot receive because it cannot comprehend.

But, lo, I say, Before the great day of the Lord shall come,

The Holy Breath will make all mysteries known —

The mysteries of the soul, of life, of death, of immortality,

The oneness of man with every other man, and with his God.

Then will the world be led to truth, and man will be truth.

When She has come, the Comforter, She will convince the world of sin,

And of truth of what I speak, and of the rightness of the Judgment

of the just;

And then the prince of carnal life will be cast out.

And when the Comforter shall come, I need not intercede for you;

For you shall stand approved, and God will know you then as he knows

Me. "

 

The Aquarian Gospel of Jesus the Christ,

ch. 162: 4-11, by Levi, M. D. Rey: DeVorss & Co., 1988.

 

 

" The Holy Spirit of Wisdom has frequently changed its gender. It has

been suggested that, because of the change in language and culture

within the early Church, `this feminine aspect (ruach) to the

inauguration of Jesus is neutered to pneuma in Hellenistic Christian

communities and eventually masculanized to spiritus in the Latin

church.' This led to a shift from feminine to masculine metaphors.

As Jung has remarked: `the Holy Ghost is not subject to any

control.' but blows where it will, like the wind. "

 

C. Matthews, Sophia: Goddess of Wisdom,

Aquarian Press, 1992, p. 135.

 

 

" Before his Passover, Jesus announced the sending of " another

Paraclete " (Advocate), the Holy Spirit, having previously " spoken

through the prophets, " the Spirit will now be with and in the

disciples, to teach them and guide them " into all truth. " [68] The

Holy Spirit is thus revealed as another divine person with Jesus and

the Father. "

 

(68. Gen 1:2; Nicene Creed [DS 150]; Jn 14:17, 26; 16:13.)

 

Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, Catechism of the Catholic Church

(J. C. Ratzinger, Catechism of the Catholic Church, 1994, p. 64.)

 

 

 

And I will pray the Father, and He shall give you another Comforter,

that (S)he may abide with you forever;

Even the Spirit of Truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it

seeth H(er) not; neither knoweth H(er):

But ye know H(er); for (S)he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

 

[feminine emphasis ours]

 

John 14:16-17

 

 

These things have I spoken while still with you.

But the Comforter, which is the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will

send in My name, (S)he will teach you all things,

And bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said

unto you.

 

[feminine emphasis ours]

 

John 14:25-26

 

 

Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go

away:

For if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; But if I

depart, I will send H(er) unto you.

And when (S)he is come, (S)he will reprove the world of sin, and of

righteousness, and of judgement.

Of sin, because they believe not on Me; Of righteousness, because I

go to my Father, and ye see Me no more;

Of judgement, because the Prince of this world is judged. I have yet

many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.

Howbeit when (S)he, the Spirit of Truth, is come, (S)he will guide

you unto all Truth:

For (S)he shall not speak of Him(Her)self;

But whatsoever (S)he shall hear, that shall (S)he speak:

And (S)he will shew you things to come.

(S)he shall glorify Me: for (S)he shall receive of Mine, and shall

shew it unto you. All things that the Father hath are Mine:

Therefore said I, that (S)he shall take of Mine, and shall shew it

unto you. "

 

[feminine emphasis ours]

 

John 16:7-15

 

 

To justify the feminine interpretation of the Comforter the

Dictionary of the Bible will be examined.

 

" It states that the Fourth Gospel does not narrate Jesus' baptism

but explains its significance. Since the Holy Spirit descended and

remained on Him, He is singled out as the Son of God who will

baptize with the Holy Spirit (John 1:32-34.) His teachings direct to

rebirth through the Spirit where a new state of being is attained by

the grace of the Spirit — this is the only way of entering the

Kingdom of the Spirit. Water is associated with the Spirit (John 3:5-

8; cf 1:13.) However, this salvation of humankind through rebirth

can only take place after His death and exaltation (cf 3:14.)

Therefore this promise of the coming Spirit points to the

future: " Now this he said about the Spirit, which those who believed

in him were to receive; for as yet the Spirit had not been given

[or, Spirit was not yet], because Jesus was not yet glorified "

(7:39.) The discourses following Last Supper hold the key to the

narration of the Spirit. It is referred to as the " paraclete "

(Counselor) or " advocate " , " intercessor " or more appropriately the

Spirit of paraclesis . . . With these terms and the use of

masculine instead of neuter pronouns, the concept of the Spirit

attains a more personal nature than at any other point in the Bible. "

 

Dictionary of the Bible, C. S. Sons, 1963, p. 393.

 

http://www.adishakti.org/prophecies/prophecy_3.htm

 

 

What does bother Shane and Henry have to say about twisting the

Bible and lying about the Comforter? Does the devil make preachers

say such lies to the unsuspecting congregation? Can we have some

answers to clarify the facts? All i can say is that they cannot

explain, amomg other mystical issues, that " The Kingdom of God is

within you " . Any knowledge clarifying what Jesus meant is treated

with suspicion by these fundamentalists, especially if revealed by

someone who does not meet their Christian profiling.

 

That is not all. The Christian god seems to be different from the

Jew god, that if unlike the Muslim god, who is in turn far removed

from the Hindu god, and is unlike the Sikh god. The only unifying

thread is the Christian Holy Spirit, the Jew Shekinah, the Muslim

Ruh, the Hindu Shakti and the Sikh Aykaa Mayee that gives spiritual

rebirth. It is the Divine Feminine that is one and the same. There

lies our inherent strength and when combined with the Divine Message

becomes a formidable weapon to destroy falsehood.

 

However, since this knowledge is revealed and made avalable for the

first time there is bound to be oppostion ............ until and

unless we provide detailed knowledge assuring those conditioned by

religions that it is written in their own holy scriptures and

supported by their own prophets. The religious organizations do not

want any of their congregation to join another church, much less

read about other religions. But that is exactly what Shri Mataji

wants fellow humans to do so that they can understand that all

religions want us to get self-realization (second birth) from within

themselves which churches, synagogues, mosques, temples and

gurdwaras have never accomplished. This is a most difficult task

because of the layer upon layer of lifelong conditionings that are

so difficult to overcome.

 

However, it is only when we do start interacting with such groups

will some of them learn about Shri Mataji and Her Divine Message.

All we need are short posts like the one you have written. The fact

that it was allowed and 1730 members able to read it is just great.

Violet, you must always know that those who are impressed will

always give the url to their friends. That is how Shri Mataji's

Message must spread over the next seven years. You need not engage

daily or even weekly in these obviously conditioned and

fundamentalists Christians. Pay them a visit once a month and just

give a link to a certain page that is relevant to the topic

discussed. Please do NOT get into any arguements to convince anyone.

Just post a short reply and leave if you do not feel comfortable.

All we need do is leave a url and our work is done. Since you have

done just that at this forum just leave and not return for a month,

or not at all. Just one new forum per week should be sufficient. But

we must NEVER waste our time and energy trying to convince anyone.

Let the 1,000 webpages do just that.

 

So i hope we all understand how to spread Shri Mataji's message with

the least effort avalable i.e., just leaving a short post and url.

That is all that is required and over time the accumulative effort

will definitely bear results because we are revealing what is

promised in all the holy scriptures and their messengers. You must

realize that to prove the world is not flat evidence to the contrary

must be given ............. and in detail too. i belive 1,000 plus

webpages, and counting, are more than sufficient in our case.

 

Perhaps Anuj can explain how he goes about at the forums. i sure

would like to know how he does it.

 

Wishing all a Happy New Year,

 

 

jagbir

 

 

 

 

 

" Violet " <vtubb

Fri Dec 30, 2005 2:32 am

Re: The Kingdom of God is within you....

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TOP EDITED BY BROTHER SHANE

 

I'm only allowing this post to point out something to everyone...

 

The Bible says we need no other teaching or doctrine. It is

complete. Nothing to be added and nothing to be taken away.

 

Not that i want to condemn this person's beliefs, and i am not

disrespecting them, but if their teachings contradict with the Word

of God, and if they do not point people to Jesus Christ, then it is

false.

 

Not to say that there might not be any truth in it. I'm sure there

is. But even 99.9% truth and .1% untruth is still not the Truth.

 

We know it only takes one word added or taken away to make it a lie

of the devil.

 

This is why, when a brother corrects me for something i said, that

was out of line with the Word, i say, " I stand corrected, AMEN! " .

Let every man's word be a lie, but God's Word is true!

 

I would rather be wrong now (and be corrected), than to be wrong

then, standing before God on Judgement Day.

 

I believe that the most ancient of Vedic writings (that contained

Truth), existed for one purpose...to point the people to Christ. For

if not, then why did the Magi go to worship Him?

 

It's the carnal perceptions of intellectual men that took those

writings and devised a new religion from it...or should we say,

RELIGIONS.

 

The Bible is complete.

 

II TIMOTHY 3:15-17

15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which

are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in

Christ Jesus.

16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable

for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in

righteousness:

17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all

good works.

 

We do not need any new teaching. Jesus Christ is all we need. Our

Prophet taught us this.

 

By the way, the Comforter is Jesus...and Jesus is the comforter. He

is one and the same.

 

God bless all that Love His' Truth.

 

Sincerely, and in His' Love,

 

Brother Shane

 

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Dear All,

 

The Comforter/Holy Spirit that Jesus said would come is here. The

Sure Sign that this Holy Spirit/Comforter is enabling human beings

to have their Second Birth is that they feel the Cool Breeze of the

Holy Ghost just like the Disciples of Jesus felt it on the Day of

Pentecost!

 

i assure you that this cannot be duplicated. No false prophet or

guru can engineer a Cool Breeze that arises within a person, but

this is happening.

 

To find out more about the Comforter who has come, and is giving us

the Second Birth of the Spirit, please visit:

 

(http://www.adishakti.org/)

 

Jesus always said that the Kingdom of God is within you. If you seek

the Kingdom of God in the sky, then the birds will precede you. And

if you seek it in the sea, then the fish will precede you. The only

place where you will experience the Kingdom of God, is within you.

 

i hope this helps.

 

Violet

 

 

 

 

, " Violet " <vtubb@b...>

wrote:

>

> Dear Jagbir, Anil, Chuck and Others,

>

> First of all, Anil, you are a great inspiration to me, having

heard of your efforts on other forums.

>

> Secondly, i have requested to join this group, as you requested,

Jagbir, so we shall see what will happen. i hope you join this group

with me too, Chuck, as you have a good understanding of Sahaja Yoga

and the Christian background as well. Also, anyone else who

recognizes Shri Mataji as the Holy Spirit/Comforter and also can

explain this to someone of a Christian background.... it would be

good to join.

>

> i must say i am a bit trepidatious about becoming involved in a

Christian forum, because i know a lot about Christian conditionings

and indoctrinations, and how a lot of Christians cannot accept

Buddha, Mohammed, Krishna and other Incarnations as coming from the

same Tree of Life.

>

> Nevertheless, i too realize that exactly such courage is needed in

order to provide knowledge of this Holy Spirit/Comforter who is on

Earth now in Her Outward Form and inside us in Her Inward Form. Shri

Mataji has said we must go 'all out' to get this Message heard by

everyone. It does not matter if they reject it as far as we are

concerned; that is their prerogative. What matters though.... is

that everyone gets to hear that the Comforter has come on Earth.

>

> The Christian Seekers of the Holy Spirit also need to be told

where they may find the Spiritual Fount of Christening, whereby they

too, may have their Second Birth and become Christian Sahaja Yogis

(meaning, Christian 'Born of the Spirit' persons). And that it is

not just a 'certificate' whereby they certify themselves as

being 'born again', but that it is an actualization, an experience

that can only be proved through the Sure Sign of the Wind of the

Holy Spirit/Holy Ghost on the Day of Pentecost.

>

> So lets share our experiences on other forums, and also invite

them to our forums where they can learn all about it.... just as

Anil has been doing.... so they too have the opportunity to

become " Born Again " in reality....into the Kingdom of God within.

>

> Jai Shri Mataji!

>

> Violet

>

> (btw, " Jai Shri Mataji " means.... " Hail to the Respected Mother! "

This is the same as Catholics would say " Hail Mother Mary, full of

Grace!) and whenever a 'Born of the Spirit' person says it with

sincerity, they will often feel a response/flow within their

Spiritual Being. It can be said many times quietly to your Spiritual

Mother in your heart throughout the day, and you will feel a

responding upliftment of your Spirit. As you draw near to Her, She

will also draw near to you).

>

> (Btw, Shri Mataji is an incarnation of the Mother Mary, Mother of

Jesus. i think we all need to realize that.)

>

> , " jagbir singh "

> <adishakti_org> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Violet, Chuck and those interested,

> >

> > i will really appreciate if you would be able to participate in

> this group given your Christian background and solid grounding in

Shri Mataji's Divine Message to humanity. i think this is an

excellent opportunity to spread the message of the Last Judgment and

> > Resurrection. As more SYs engage more groups in future we will

be able to finally make headway after years of stagnation.

> >

> > i will be giving the latest WebTrends figures for December 2005.

> The good news is that we have had a 50% jump in daily average of

> > visitors from the last count two months ago i.e., from 2000 to

> 3000 daily visitors. This is indeed evidence that we have finally

> managed to turn the tide and, given our desire to fulfil Shri

Mataji's horoscope that Satya Yuga will start by 21 February 2012,

should redouble our efforts in every way possible.

> >

> > The internet is overwhelmingly the best way to attain that end.

> All you need to do is to participate in the thousands of forums

and sooner or later give the www.adishakti.org link or the url of a

> > particular page. That is all you need to do because a single

link may result in hundreds of visitors. Over time this sinle link

may grow into tens of thousands. What if we have 100 SYs just doing

> that in future? However, those participating should have a sound

and balanced grounding of Her Divine Message. By this i mean they

> should be able to explain how the subtle system works to trigger

> spiritual birth by the Spirit (Mother Kundalini/Shakti) for those

who want to participate in the Last Judgment and Resurrection.

(Forget this if you just want to flex your subtle system muscles.)

> >

> > i also want to say that the new forum is doing well and prepares

> SYs to understand and accept Her more serious and difficult Divine

> > Message here. This transition period/space may be necessary

given the subtle system/chakra cleaning conditioning of collectives.

We have to single out and thank Violet for all her input on that

> forum.

> >

> > So i have to say we SYs now actively engage in forums and talk

> about Shri Mataji's Divine Message. Many spiritual and religious

seekers will in future be increasingly looking out for the Sure

Signs of the Creator as 21 December 2012 approaches. i assure you

that no other group or organization in the world can fulfil them as

we SYs can. Those who join Shri Mataji in future will do so because

they are convinced that She is the Adi Shakti sent to deliver God

> Almighty's Message to humanity. They will not be interested in the

subtle system and kundalini because there are just too many false

gurus selling the same stuff. But no spiritual guru or religious

> > organization can talk about the Last Judgment and Resurrection

and how they can participate too. This prerogative belongs

exclusively to Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, and to Her only. Humanity

must know of the secrets of the Adi Shakti's Divine Message to

humanity.

> >

> > Jai Shri Mataji,

> >

> >

> > jagbir

> >

> >

> > , Henry

<chills@a...>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > It is refreshing to learn something when we study the Bible.

> > >

> > > Mt 13:52 " Then said he unto them, Therefore every scribe

which is instructed unto the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man

that is an householder, which bringeth forth out of his treasure

things new and old. "

> > >

> > > I am studying with about 2,000 people on various groups and

when it comes to last day events we have learned more than some want

to know.

> > >

> > > The study is starting fresh for those that would like to give

> > their input

> > >

> > > 42-months-and-counting/

> > >

> > > Be blessed,

> > > Henry

> > >

> >

>