It is only during the Last Judgment and Resurrection will humans experience the

[Guest guest]

Dear All,

 

I agree and would like to add something though to your thoughts on Simon

being atheists.... Is he???? Or does he not find Shri Mataji as God? There

is a difference. Many people see God in many different ways ( as you are

combining all religions together so you have to look at this clearly, and I

guess go along with all the baggage they bring to you, as it takes time to

conform them to your thinking and it may not happen at all, they may hold to

some truths they have learned as children, but that is what happens when you

combine all religions, you are ACCEPTING them as they ARE) Not everyone is

going to agree with exactly WHO Shri Mataji is and that is ok too, some may

not be READY or whatever,, as that is between them and their maker. We

cannot go around passing JUDGEMENT either on WHO is filled with the Holy

Spirit, it can come in MANY ways and I personally have found this, and have

PERSONAL relationship with the one TRUE God and Jesus as one. I know this as

fact, and He/ SHE whatever you want God to Be as God is " Spirit and all who

worship must worship in spirit and truth. " Now an Atheisist on the other

hand, has NO belief in God ( or any almighty being)at all under ANY name,

and plan on just going 6ft under with nothing to go to......( Sad but true)

So I do not know if Simon is atheist, but maybe he is not, maybe he just

sees things differently then you. It is sad that such time is wasted on

trying to see WHO is 'saved' you might say, and who is not..... It is none

of our business. We just go along and witnes, and try to raise Kundalinis or

whatever we feel works and all will be well, some follow one path, and some

another IF you are trying to go with ALL religions. ( Let them go and do as

you can, and keep trying but not forcing, or judging, that is not why we are

here, your love for others, and the fact that you feel you are RIGHT and no

one else, probably causes you to over care, and that is nice too, but do NOT

let PRIDE get in your way that is a SIN) Some people who have never learnd

HOW to do Sahaja Yoga in years past, because they have not been able to

learn or it never came to them, may still have been 'saved' and may still

have been full of Spirit. At Pentecost, the people did not raise Kundalinis,

it happened, and they were filled as tongues of flames came down upon them )

and they starting talking in tongues BUT not gibberish, everyone

UNDERSTOOD each other.

 

NOw as for the Healing touch and Reiki thing, I know first hand as I am

certified, some years ago, and do not practice now, but will agree, I felt

vibrations and was attuned the whole bit, BUT while they were doing healing

on me ( the instructors and students) the door slammed shut, ( No one was

near it) and it was scary but they said it was STUFF stuck in me over many

years coming out, WELL, then I had FEET TROUBLE later, and never have gotten

over it. Have done Sahaja Yoga and have PRAYED< PRAYED< PRAYED, and guess it

is stuck. But it can cause something to get into system ( not the devil

either) as I spend my whole day and night with meditaion and God as am on

disability,( NOT ALL will be miraculouly cured, and am possitive not all

Sahaja Yogas are perfectly well, and may be afraid to say it) and have time

other than family things and helping others, so I know God is there for me,

but it is something to beware of, I will agree with Shri Mataji on that. It

can do harm, even a nun at catholic hospital is doing this, for money and

teaching, it she means well, and I am sure, and she loves God, too, but we

can be misguided. God looks upon the HEART of man, we CANNOT do that.

Forgiveness plays BIG part in this, so forgive those who you think are on

wrong path and PRAY for them, and try to lead them, BUT you cannot force

people to SEE what they cannot see, for one reason or another, and we cannot

slander people either. Now if someone IS an atheist then they are, I have

encountered them too, and it is VERY hard to change them IF they do NOT WANT

to become enlightened, but you do best you can, and walk on.... as Jesus

said, " Shake dust off your feet and go to next house " But it does NOT mean

not loving the person, or thinking they are going to Hell, we cannot decide

that at all. Not up to us at all. That is our PRIDE speaking.

 

 

Blessings, Shaloam, Namaste, Jai Shri Mataji, and all that all religions may

say,,,,,Different words, all the same, in the end, ( If we are combining all

religions into one)

 

 

Carol,

 

> " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org

>

>

> It is only during the Last Judgment and

>Resurrection will humans " experience the

>Sat, 07 Jan 2006 15:45:50 -0000

>

>Dear Semira,

>

>i agree that it is difficult to understand Kundalini awakening (birth by

>the Spirit) because of centuries of scriptural distortion and

>misinterpretation. Humans always apply their existing knowledge to

>interpret and understand something new. And when radical spiritual

>revelations challenges established religious institutions and turns their

>doomsday view on its head, it is going to be one long struggle to overcome

>such conditionings. This is a very difficult task that requires massive

>amounts of data and first-hand experiences.

>

>Having said that those reading should use such experiences ONLY to

>strengthen their faith and increase knowledge, not try to emulate them. You

>just cannot force such spiritual experiences. Trying to visualize, induce

>or stimulate the mental process is so simple, but one only fools oneself.

>So please DO NOT agitate your mind to duplicate any of the experiences

>mentioned because they only serve the purpose of validating the Adi Shakti

>and Her Divine Message. Yes, all experiences into the Sahasrara (Kingdom of

>God) are for this purpose only, and nothing else. (That is why i do not

>want anyone to pay attention on any of them, and neither do they.)

>

>But it can be increasingly seen that the deep mystical parables of all

>scriptures compels one to turn within for self-salvation. The Divine

>Message unconditionally declares that you must go within into the depth of

>your own soul to seek His Kingdom, where God Almighty exists as Light. All

>Holy Scriptures and prophets talk about this Light and the Divine Message

>upholds this divinity of humans. But in order to reach this state of

>consciousness it is absolutely necessary to be born of the Spirit (Mother

>Kundalini), whether you are a Christian, Sikh, Jew, Hindu, Muslim, or

>Buddhist.

>

>We humans are witnessing what has been promised by our scriptures and

>prophets over the millennia. That is why it is only during the Last

>Judgment and Resurrection will humans " experience the living power that

>will change your life. " This living power is the Mother Kundalini (Holy

>Spirit) that gives self-realization (second birth) and changes your life.

>Only those who have experienced this eschatological promise to humanity

>understand what i am saying ............ and there are tens of thousands of

>such realized souls all over the world today.

>

>warmest regards,

>

>

>jagbir

>

>

[Guest guest]

, " semirafields "

<semirafields> wrote:

>

>

> Dear Jagbir and Friends,

>

> The awakening of the Kundalini is a life-changing event, and the

> inner spiritual journey can be frightening and difficult at times,

> and beautiful and blissful at others. What we have known

> as 'reality' is first challenged and then shattered, and all

> illusons are revealed. This is possibly too much to face for some

> people, and they may stop at this stage of their journey, choosing

> to proceed no further, or they may even abandon the spiritual

> journey altogether.

>

> " It is only during the Last Judgment and Resurrection will

> > humans " experience the living power that will change your life. "

> This is the culmination of all the religious paths, the place where

> they converge; it is the beginning of the spiritual evolution of

> mankind, the achievement of a new level of consciousness.

>

> The Kundalini will spontaneously reveal itself to everyone who

> seeks Her from their hearts; and She will safely guide and reveal

> all the truths to those who accept Her. Many people from all paths

> will be awakened, and they will see that we are all part of the

> same Spirit; the Divine will draw all these close together in Love.

>

> Love, Semira

>

>

>

Dear Semira,

 

i agree that it is difficult to understand Kundalini awakening (birth

by the Spirit) because of centuries of scriptural distortion and

misinterpretation. Humans always apply their existing knowledge to

interpret and understand something new. And when radical spiritual

revelations challenges established religious institutions and turns

their doomsday view on its head, it is going to be one long struggle

to overcome such conditionings. This is a very difficult task that

requires massive amounts of data and first-hand experiences.

 

Having said that those reading should use such experiences ONLY to

strengthen their faith and increase knowledge, not try to emulate

them. You just cannot force such spiritual experiences. Trying to

visualize, induce or stimulate the mental process is so simple, but

one only fools oneself. So please DO NOT agitate your mind to

duplicate any of the experiences mentioned because they only serve

the purpose of validating the Adi Shakti and Her Divine Message. Yes,

all experiences into the Sahasrara (Kingdom of God) are for this

purpose only, and nothing else. (That is why i do not want anyone to

pay attention on any of them, and neither do they.)

 

But it can be increasingly seen that the deep mystical parables of all

scriptures compels one to turn within for self-salvation. The Divine

Message unconditionally declares that you must go within into the

depth of your own soul to seek His Kingdom, where God Almighty exists

as Light. All Holy Scriptures and prophets talk about this Light and

the Divine Message upholds this divinity of humans. But in order to

reach this state of consciousness it is absolutely necessary to be

born of the Spirit (Mother Kundalini), whether you are a Christian,

Sikh, Jew, Hindu, Muslim, or Buddhist.

 

We humans are witnessing what has been promised by our scriptures and

prophets over the millennia. That is why it is only during the Last

Judgment and Resurrection will humans " experience the living power

that will change your life. " This living power is the Mother

Kundalini (Holy Spirit) that gives self-realization (second birth)

and changes your life. Only those who have experienced this

eschatological promise to humanity understand what i am saying

............. and there are tens of thousands of such realized souls

all over the world today.

 

warmest regards,

 

 

jagbir