Shri Mataji's Warning on the Dangers of Spiritualism, Parapsychology, etc.

[Guest guest]

Dear All,

 

Appended below is an excerpt from a Sahaja Yoga public program in

Middlesborough, England in 1984 where, in answering a question from

a member of the audience, Shri Mataji warns against the dangers and

perils of dabbling in spiritualism, parapsychology and spiritual

healing. This is probably the most detailed exposition Shri Mataji

has ever given publicly on this very important issue.

 

C.

 

 

Excerpt from Public Program, Middlesborough, England, 31st July, 1984

 

Question: I am a spiritualist medium, so I understand what you

mean; the only thing that bothers me is: do you awaken people also

to the dangers as well as the blessings that you can get through the

experience?

 

Shri Mataji:

Absolutely, that's what it is, that you should know what are the

dangers; I've already told you - moving to the left and the right

and the spiritualists are moving to the left. They're using spirits

and it's very dangerous. You don't know how to protect yourself;

unless and until you get your realization you will not even know how

spiritualism is wrong. Absolutely it is most dangerous.

 

There is no danger in Kundalini, but in spiritualism it is most

dangerous; whether you may be alright for the short time but they

are spirits, you must know and spirits are the most dangerous

things. Don't go near them. It's very surprising that in the West

people have no idea about spirits and the way they go headlong into

it, it sometimes really upsets me. In India people know about it;

they call it Bhootavidya, Pretavidya, Smeshanavidya, means the

knowledge about the dead, we can say, the dead knowledge. And they

just don't want to go near it.

 

The other day we had a visitor and I took her to a church and she

was holding her sari, going like this. I said, " What's the problem? "

She said, " All dead are here, how can we cross over them? " She

couldn't understand and we have them in the churches where children

go. It's very dangerous; only the realized people in India are

buried, only realized souls are buried, not the people who are not

realized. They're not to be buried; they're to be burned so that

their body gets purified and again they come on this earth for their

realization. And the dead in the church! It's so dangerous, playing

with spiritualists, nobody will do. Here I find housewives, and all

people responsible getting into this mess of spiritualism.

 

It's all absolutely against Sahaja Yoga; we have nothing to do with

them. On the contrary they suffer a lot. Spiritualists suffer a lot

later on in life. Not only but seven generations of their family can

suffer.

 

We had a doctor here who came and I was surprised that he being a

doctor was suffering from this kind of a disease. He was a Russian

doctor and I asked him, " How did you get into it? " So he told me his

mother, his grandmother had a hobby to take him to the cemetery.

From his childhood he used to go to the cemetery; we could not

locate the problem anywhere; he was very depressed and he used to

get into problems and he had to give up his jobs. Now we met another

Indian doctor who was here and he had the same type of trouble; he'd

given up his job and his wife didn't know what to do and his

children were also suffering. So I asked him a question, " Why, why

you are like this? What did you do with your studies? " And he was

quite normal. He said, " I led a very normal life. " But his

grandfather used to do black magic, in the sense we call it, all

this is black magic; all spiritualism is black magic, because it has

to deal with the dead. And this boy was suffering, his children were

suffering. Now we have one person from Guyana, another one from

Guyana, he too, his father used to do this kind of a thing and he is

suffering, he's still suffering. He's come to Sahaja Yoga and he's

still… but he can see now and he knows how to protect.

 

So those who deal with dead are going to suffer, take it from me,

whatever you may do, because they're just like human beings and

sometimes slyer people than we are. We should have nothing to do

with the dead. Let them take their birth again, let them take their

realization.

 

All anorexia, all these diseases come out of that. So many diseases

I've told you, cancer is caused by the dead. Be careful on that

point; and I don't understand all educated people here, so much

developed, how can you take…, Indians won't take to it. They won't

go near it; they understand.

 

Tantrikas and all that are prevalent only in very poor countries

like…, say, it's a vicious circle; it brings poverty also. As soon

as there is a dead in a family or a dead work done, the money

disappears. The reason is the goddess of Lakshmi as we call them,

she just disappears, she doesn't like that black thing at all. And

so the countries where we have, I mean, in our country the provinces

which are poor; the whole country is not poor, they're doing all

black magic. In Kerala, it's very poor country, I went there, they

bury their dead in the house. It is all that; you must keep them

out, because the goddess of wealth doesn't like it.

 

All this knowledge was not known to you but that doesn't mean that

you should go headlong into these things; it's very, very dangerous.

Never go near the dead; whatever it is the planet said, this, that,

it's all nonsensical. There's no need to do that. But people are

really…, I don't understand, they're daredevils.

 

Like from America three big scientists came to see me; in India I'm

very well-known. So they came to see me and said that, " Mother,

teach us how to fly in the air. " I said, " Why do you want to fly in

the air? What is the need? " " No, we want to leave our body and go to

the moon. " I said, " You are already doing it with your body, why do

you want to do it? " So they told me that " Parapsychology is

practised now in Russia and we want to do the same. " I said, " It

will affect them. " You see the way their presidents are killed; this

is all parapsychology. I told them, " Don't go near them. " They

said, " No Mother, we want to do it. " I said, " But then you will be

slaves of these dead, would you like to do that? " Still they

said, " Yes we want to do it. " I said, " I have nothing to do but who

has told you about this? " They said, " There is one fellow,

Patanjali, who is a reporter. " I said, " Look at this Patanjali, he

was suffering from this trouble, that his body used to be left

behind and he would fly out and do… " And he came and his wife came

and begged of me that they should be rid of this trouble and he's

telling them that am I going to put the trouble into them?

 

All this parapsychology business, when I went first to America I

must tell you, this experience is very good. I told them against

parapsychology openly because they, I didn't know what they were

doing in parapsychology, first of all, and they are the people who

invited me in their hall. I blasted them and I said, " Don't do all

this nonsense, it will all destroy you; just don't go near them. "

Second time when I went to America, only last year, I was giving on

the television, I was on the television and before the television

they had told that Mataji Nirmala Devi is going to come. And

somebody telephoned from San Diego saying that, " Mother had come

last time and she told us about parapsychology and she told us about

the Gurus, she warned us but we never listened to her and now we are

destroyed people. Can she save us? " I said. " Yes, but still it's

difficult now; you should not have gone to that. "

 

And the whole of that parapsychology thing is finished now. The

building caught fire, the gentleman went to Australia, he got a

funny temperament, he ended up in a lunatic asylum. The wife, she

became paralytic, she ended up in a lunatic asylum. Brezhnev and all

these people, they all suffered from this. You can see their faces;

all like this, possessed.

 

Don't go near the spiritualists; don't do that, it's very dangerous,

for you, for the progeny, for everyone. I must warn you; it's the

most dangerous thing and should not do that. Even if you don't like

it I have to tell you. I don't want to tell you something that's not

true. You depend on yourself, on your own spirit, on your own being;

why to depend on somebody who's dead, let them be alone.

 

But when they suffer, they come to me, I've seen it, when they

suffer then they'll come. Then it's so difficult, you see,

afterwards to give them realization, it's so difficult; they've

already harmed themselves. He (referring to Warren) also had gone to

someone like that, but his wife we lost because she was going too

much of it; we've lost her, she's…, I don't know, she may come back,

but I mean, she's very much attacked, very much attacked. And she

used to become like a furious personality and all sorts of things

used to happen to her and I hope she comes back but it's very

difficult, you know, to pull them back out of the clutches of that,

because they don't know what they're are doing, what they're

talking, how they're behaving.

 

A sickness of the worst type. Even AIDS is a sickness from the same.

Most of the terminal diseases come from them. It's very dangerous,

don't go near them. Christ has already told you; he's the one who

told so plainly, he took them out and put them in the pigs and pigs

went into the sea. You have heard of that or not; so why do you want

to bring them back? Put them in the pigs. If they don't want to

reside in the area where they are suppose to reside, let them go to

pigs. They've no business…, they're busybodies, you know.

 

There're also one Dr. Lang in here. I must tell you about him, this

Dr. Lang, late Dr. Lang, dead. And he capsized a man in Vietnam who

was a soldier who was under a shock and this soldier came down to

London to see his son and he said, " I'm Dr. Lang. " The son was

shocked, he said, " Who? How are you… my father is dead. " He

said, " No, your father has possessed me, and he has told me that I

must start my clinic here and there are many doctors who want to

help me and I'm going to start this clinic. " So the son listened to

it and he said, " How am I to believe that you are my father? " Then

he told him some secrets which were between the two, and told about

the house where he had put some money and all that.

 

And the son was surprised and he started the clinic; and that's how

the International Curative Centre of Late Dr. Lang started in

London. How I came to know about it, that in 1974 I met a lady, she

was shaking all the time like this. I said, " What's this? " She

said, " Mother, I don't know but I was cured by Dr. Lang, late Dr.

Lang. " Then she told me the story. But they were honest to tell

about this whole thing what had happened but he did not enter into

the body of the boy, his son, entered into somebody else who was a

very healthy man. And she told me that, " When I wrote to them I am

suffering from these troubles, stomach trouble, they told me that

you will have the experience at such and such exact this time. " That

shows it's not living because you cannot give time to something that

is living; you cannot say exactly what time a flower is going to

become the fruit, can you? And this thing entered into her body, she

started shaking, shaking, and her stomach was alright.

 

For about two years she was alright, afterwards the whole body

started shaking, she became like a mad woman. She used to run out of

the house and people would say that, " This woman is going to kill

herself. " Once she jumped from a very high ceiling to kill herself

but somehow she was saved, and they brought her to me and she told

me the story of late Dr. Lang. So I have to tell you, though they

cure you for a while, don't go near them, better you cure yourself

and know all about it. You be the master of yourself.

 

It's nice she brought out the point because otherwise… it's all

Sahaj, spontaneous, so that I could tell you about it; it's quite

possible that people could take to that.