It is only during the Last Judgment and Resurrection will humans experience

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Dear Carol,

 

Can you just relax and try to understand what i am saying? i am

telling you not to use the " Do not judge " slogan on a public forum

where people are exchanging ideas and engaging in constructive

criticism. We are not judging people in the way fundamentalist

Christians understand that abused word. But you just keep advising us

not to judge. How can we continue when every post can be judgmental

in one way or another? Please shake off that conditioning and relax.

Take it easy and discuss like normal folks. When you use " DO NOT

JUDGE " to make us 'sinful' for our actions, which may not be what you

intend, it makes the rest of us guilty by reason of interaction. That

is what i am trying to say so that you will stop asking the judged to

stop judging. i really feel pained when you feel that way. Honestly,

i am only trying to make you shake off years of church conditioning.

Please do not take offence becauuse my strong words are only for your

own benefit.

 

love and best wishes,

 

jagbir

 

 

, " danny weaver "

<cdweaver32@h...> wrote:

>

> Jagbir,

>

> This is the second half and what I was referring to the 1st half

was worse,

> even. It is fine to not agree, but we cannot be cruel, or maybe you

want it,

> but it is not my forum so it is fine with me. I am done, and will

not write,

> but this is part of what I was referring to hope it helps shed

light on the

> whole thing. ( This was written by Dave, and I was answering what

he said

> before, and this is more of comment)

> Hope it helps, The Golden Rule, states to " do unto others as you

would have

> them do to you " , well I would not like this said about me.....Did

he bother

> Dave??? maybe he did.... I do not know.

>

> Carol

>

> > " davesyogi " <davesyogi>

> >

> >

> > Re: It is only during the Last

Judgment

> >and Resurrection will humans " experience

> >Sat, 07 Jan 2006 21:47:40 -0000

> >

> > , " danny weaver "

> ><cdweaver32@h...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear All,

> > >

> > > I agree and would like to add something though to your thoughts

on

> >Simon

> > > being atheists.... Is he???? Or does he not find Shri Mataji as

God?

> >

> >Hi Carol

> >As I am aware of Simon,he is an atheist,from what I know.

> >

> > There

> > > is a difference.

> >

> >Many people see God in many different ways,but we sahaja yogis see

GOD

> >as Jesus said in the new testament when he was asked about

it " ye,it is

> >written,you are all gods "

> >Carol,the spirit within you is a part of GOD.Now,either you accept

> >that or not it would make no difference,because this is the

truth.Your

> >destiny,as a human being,is to become one with that part within

yourself.

> >

> > Many people see God in many different ways ( as you are

> > > combining all religions together so you have to look at this

> >clearly, and I

> > > guess go along with all the baggage they bring to you, as it

takes

> >time to

> > > conform them to your thinking and it may not happen at all,

they may

> >hold to

> > > some truths they have learned as children, but that is what

happens

> >when you

> > > combine all religions, you are ACCEPTING them as they ARE)

> >

> >Very true,Carol

> >

> > Not everyone is

> > > going to agree with exactly WHO Shri Mataji is and that is ok

too,

> >some may

> > > not be READY or whatever,, as that is between them and their

maker.

> >

> >I just decided to try the meditation my friend recommended me(from

> >college).I am not still sure whom Shri Mataji is,but sure thing I

feel

> >the cool vibrations.And sure thing is way better then the

> >transcendental meditation I've tried before.And I had to pay them

350

> >dollars for the mantra they gave me.Never again.

> >

> >

> > We

> > > cannot go around passing JUDGEMENT either on WHO is filled with

the

> >Holy

> > > Spirit, it can come in MANY ways and I personally have found

this,

> >and have

> > > PERSONAL relationship with the one TRUE God and Jesus as one.

> >

> >Personal relationship with Jesus?..this is the illusion people fall

> >into,thinking they can have a ,,personal relationship,, with GOD.I

do

> >not agree,Carol.I have personal relationship with my wife,not with

Jesus.

> >

> >

> >I know this as

> > > fact, and He/ SHE whatever you want God to Be as God is " Spirit

and

> >all who

> > > worship must worship in spirit and truth. " Now an Atheisist on

the

> >other

> > > hand, has NO belief in God ( or any almighty being)at all

under ANY

> >name,

> > > and plan on just going 6ft under with nothing to go to......(

Sad

> >but true)

> >

> > > So I do not know if Simon is atheist, but maybe he is not,

maybe he

> >just

> > > sees things differently then you.

> >

> >Simon is an atheist.Also,he is not normal in the brain,if he became

> >Vishnu and other avatars.The proof that he is not normal in the

brain

> >is very simple.He was Vishnu before,now he is an atheist.Case

> >closed.Take him to the nut-house.

> >

> > It is sad that such time is wasted on

> > > trying to see WHO is 'saved' you might say, and who is not.....

It

> >is none

> > > of our business.

> >

> >Saved?It is interesting how people use this term so easily.After

you

> >die,you will know for sure ,don't worry Carol.I am 56 years

old,maybe

> >it's too late for me to be saved.My friend introduced me to sahaja

> >yoga,that's all.

> >

> > We just go along and witnes, and try to raise Kundalinis or

> > > whatever we feel works and all will be well, some follow one

path,

> >and some

> > > another IF you are trying to go with ALL religions. ( Let them

go

> >and do as

> > > you can, and keep trying but not forcing, or judging, that is

not

> >why we are

> > > here, your love for others, and the fact that you feel you are

RIGHT

> >and no

> > > one else, probably causes you to over care, and that is nice

too,

> >but do NOT

> > > let PRIDE get in your way that is a SIN)

> >

> >I think once you think about the pride you become the pride.Once

you

> >think about the sin,you become the sin.

> >

> > >Some people who have never learnd

> > > HOW to do Sahaja Yoga in years past, because they have not been

able to

> > > learn or it never came to them, may still have been 'saved' and

may

> >still

> > > have been full of Spirit. At Pentecost, the people did not raise

> >Kundalinis,

> > > it happened, and they were filled as tongues of flames came down

> >upon them )

> > > and they starting talking in tongues BUT not gibberish,

everyone

> > > UNDERSTOOD each other.

> >

> >Not in my baptist church I have been attending for the last 20

> >years.All of them spoke in gibberish.Please give me the address of

> >your church,so I can see they understand each other.Never happened

in

> >my life.

> >

> > > NOw as for the Healing touch and Reiki thing, I know first hand

as I am

> > > certified, some years ago, and do not practice now, but will

agree,

> >I felt

> > > vibrations and was attuned the whole bit, BUT while they were

doing

> >healing

> > > on me ( the instructors and students) the door slammed shut, (

No

> >one was

> > > near it) and it was scary but they said it was STUFF stuck in me

> >over many

> > > years coming out, WELL, then I had FEET TROUBLE later, and never

> >have gotten

> > > over it. Have done Sahaja Yoga and have PRAYED< PRAYED< PRAYED,

and

> >guess it

> > > is stuck.

> >

> >True.Sahaja yoga is not prayer.It's meditation.If was not for my

> >friend,I'd never have understood this.Thank you,friend,if you are

> >reading right now.

> >

> > But it can cause something to get into system ( not the devil

> > > either) as I spend my whole day and night with meditaion and

God as

> >am on

> > > disability,( NOT ALL will be miraculouly cured, and am

possitive not

> >all

> > > Sahaja Yogas are perfectly well, and may be afraid to say it)

and

> >have time

> > > other than family things and helping others, so I know God is

there

> >for me,

> > > but it is something to beware of, I will agree with Shri Mataji

on

> >that. It

> > > can do harm, even a nun at catholic hospital is doing this, for

> >money and

> > > teaching, it she means well, and I am sure, and she loves God,

too,

> >but we

> > > can be misguided. God looks upon the HEART of man, we CANNOT do

that.

> > > Forgiveness plays BIG part in this, so forgive those who you

think

> >are on

> > > wrong path and PRAY for them, and try to lead them, BUT you

cannot

> >force

> > > people to SEE what they cannot see, for one reason or another,

and

> >we cannot

> > > slander people either. Now if someone IS an atheist then they

are, I

> >have

> > > encountered them too, and it is VERY hard to change them IF

they do

> >NOT WANT

> > > to become enlightened, but you do best you can, and walk on....

as

> >Jesus

> > > said, " Shake dust off your feet and go to next house " But it

does

> >NOT mean

> > > not loving the person, or thinking they are going to Hell, we

cannot

> >decide

> > > that at all. Not up to us at all. That is our PRIDE speaking.

> > >

> > >

> > > Blessings, Shaloam, Namaste, Jai Shri Mataji, and all that all

> >religions may

> > > say,,,,,Different words, all the same, in the end, ( If we are

> >combining all

> > > religions into one)

> > >

> > >

> > > Carol,

> > >

> > All my blessing for you,Carol.And may God help us all.

> >Dave

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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