Guest guest Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 > > , Ravindran Nair > <ravindran_nair2005@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Jagbir, > > > > I did not get to thank you for the guidance you provided me in > your last posts....thank you, it is indeed heartening to know that > someone has not become a strait-jacketed ritual-following moron. I > also want to congratulate you for the tremendous job you have done > on the internet. I did numerous searches today for a lot of > different information, and more often than not, i would land up at > your adishakti website!!! > > > > I am looking for words of shri mataji on the subject of will- > power/willpower. Would you have any excerpts from her on this > matter? I would be much obliged if you could assist. > > > > Thank you. > > > > Ravindran > > > , " Violet " <violet.tubb wrote: > > Dear Ravindran, > > i don't think Shri Mataji used the word 'will power' very much, > but i know She used the word 'desire power' quite a lot. > > Maybe if you do searches, using the word 'desire power', you will > get the results you are after. > > Kind regards, > > Violet > Dear Ravindran, What Violet has said is indeed true. " Will power " reminds me of mental thoughts from the mind that disturbs the thoughtless state. It is the " desire power' from the heart that requires little thinking. For example the will power to acquire a car will be " I need a car " ; " I must save for a car " ; " I can work overtime to purchase a new car " ; " I can borrow for new car down payment " and so on. It requires constant reminder for the " will " to have power to fulfill a future need. The " desire power " is more silent. You really cannot express it much because it is always there but does not need constant reminders. It is a soothing silence that sustains a past need for eventual accomplishment. The best would be to remain in the present moment, the optimum state that neither requires the past desire or future will. And there is no need to understand how and why there is a difference between desire and will. The most important is to remain thoughtless in the present as the rest are all petty details that echo in your mind. i have a talk of Shri Mataji regarding the Adi Kundalini that may help new SYs never ever to resort to any external rituals. What cleansing-obsessed SYs do not tell you about is the futility of getting cleansing energy from external rituals. This is what Shri Mataji has to say, though not mentioning it by name: " So please remember, those who try to bring in assertions and conditioning and ego and all that are not going to grow because they are not getting the energy from the Kundalini but from outside which is absolutely useless. " So lemons, chillies, salt, matka, strings, candles etc., is not going to make you grow/heal unless one learns to get energy from the Kundalini. Thus this explains why many SYs are in daily cleansing, and want others to be subject too to the burden of a life-long yoke. And trying to understand the subtle system will not help either. You are only falling into the trap that have ensnared most SYs by trying to comprehend the three channels. Ask 10 SYs the same questions and you will get different, even contradictory replies. It is so confusing and disheartening to realize months/years later that what you learnt is not true. Then the doubts come that the next SY may also give you information that may later turn to be only half true. i learnt this defect many years ago while still new and decided to find it myself i.e,, from Shri Mataji within. It is indeed a blessing to be able to seek the Inner Guru. You will be a better balanced personality if you understand and follow the wisdom and enlightenment of Shri Mataji's talk about the Adi Kundalini. i am saying that your Mother Kundalini is absolutely able to destroy all your catches and subtle system problems. She also helps you stabilize yourself for the thoughtless state where you need not know or read anything as the Silence will teach you. Your own Guru within will enlighten you of whatever is desired or need to be known. It will not bring instant results. If you are to taught by Silence then your learning curve will be a gradual, easy ascent. Listening to Shri Mataji's tapes help but it is the silent introspection that accelerates growth. Some may question why SYs give all these facts and knowledge here. The main purpose is to explain Shri Mataji's Divine Message and give evidence that She indeed is the incarnation of the Shakti within sent to deliver it. Secondary purpose is to throw an unforgivingly harsh spotlight on serious issues that have been nonchalantly swept under the management carpet, diseased dirt that was not allowed to be removed even for the sake of assured eventual good health for all SYs. The issues include reminding SYs of their duty to TELL ALL THE NATIONS; making newcomers realize that spiritual advancement has nothing to do with seniority (or getting advise from them); ridding SYs of cleansing conditionings and rituals; teaching them to become their own masters (instead of being slaves to ignorant SYs); emphasizing the importance of surrendering all to Mother Kundalini within; and confirming accusations that the brahminical management team have time and again failed to spread Shri Mataji's message, and that it is now up to the majority sudra caste to rise and fulfill Her Vision for humanity. jagbir Shri Adi Kundalini Puja Germany , August 11 , 1991 This is the Puja of Adi Kundalini as well as your own Kundalini. " Self-realization is self-knowledge, and the one who gives you self- knowledge is your own Kundalini because when She rises She points out the problems on your chakras. " Kundalini is pure desire, which means that it has no lust or greed. lt is the power of your own Mother who knows everything about you, like a tape recorder. " Whatever chakras She touches She also knows what's wrong with that chakra beforehand, so She's quite prepared and She adjusts Herself fully so that you do not get a problem by Her awakening. If any chakra is constricted She waits and goes on slowly opening that chakra. " Kundalini is the primordial power which is reflected within you like many strands of energy twisted together-like a rope. " In a human being these strands are 3 into 7 that is 21 raised to the power 108. When your Kundalini rises, one or two strands out of this come up and pierce the fontanel bone area. " It's a spiral which has to pass through the innermost Nadi, known as the Brahma Nadi, which is also a spiral. " The outermost Nadi is the right side and the second innermost is the Ida Nadi. " When the Kundalini passes through the Brahma Nadi, the sympathetic nervous system starts relaxing, and when it goes to the Agnya chakra, then the eyes start relaxing, the pupils dilate, and they can become very black like Shri Mataji's. This is a way to easily see how far the Kundalini has risen in a person. The Kundalini energy is absolutely pure light of knowledge, love compassion and attention. It is the living energy which knows how to handle Itself and think. It is like the tip of a sprouting seed that knows how to go around all the soft places, to encircle the stones, then find its way to the source. " But within you is a tremendous force of Kundalini, " ... a storehouse of love, compassion and knowledge and ocean of forgiveness which can be enlightened by the Spirit. " When people get realization, they do not understand that they have to now grow, " and the reason they don't grow is they do not ask for these energies-to be more compassionate, more loving, more generous, and not to exploit others. " But If you do not want to be growing in your awareness then She says, 'All right . He's a half- baked Sahaja Yogi. Let it be.' She doesn't supply that energy which is stored within you. " Mundane desires , such as asking for a job or for cures for relatives, are impure because they are not satiable. " This Kundalini that is your Mother She is there to supply you, nourish you, to look after you, to make you grow by giving you a higher personality, wider personality, deeper personality. " But our ideas about people who have higher personalities are wrong. " People are higher because they are spiritually evolved; otherwise they are not. " This Puja is taking place in Germany, and " germ " actually means Kundalini. Germs, or seeds, are usually encased in a hard shell for protection. But the delicate germ has the capacity to break the hard shell. " In the same way, when we become really delicate like a germ and grow in our delicacy and in our beauty of compassion, love and knowledge which makes you humble, then these shells will break.... So what we should ask for is that beautiful, soft, compassionate nature and then the Kundalini will supply--because She only has that.... All Her power is of love, nothing but love, so how can She give you something She doesn't , have? Supposing you hate someone, what can She , do? She can't do anything because She cannot give you powers to hate. " If you hate someone, She gives you the power to forgive. In order to grow, " We have to see how softly we talk, how kindly we talk, how considerate we are. Now this is externally, but when you start doing that externally the energy starts coming internally..., So please remember, those who try to bring in assertions and conditioning and ego and all that are not going to grow because they are not getting the energy from the Kundalini but from outside which is absolutely useless . " " So the power of Kundalini is absolute purity, auspiciousness, holiness, chastity, self-respect, pure love, detachment, concern, enlightened attention to give you . joy " To grow, we need to introspect. " What do l want in this , life? l should be able to love many more people without any lust or greed or expectations. " The Kundalini gives the witness state, She gives peace, security and wisdom, which make us so powerful that no one can trouble us. If we go against our Kundalini it Is very easy to jump on the left or right side, where we can become anything uncontrollable. Whatever we want--bhoots, diseases, filthy things-we can have them, nobody can stop us. Discussing the bad points of others is also not going to help us, especially the ladies. " So when we talk of the light of the Kundalini we have to understand that this light spreads in your life, outside your life and expresses itself in a very, very beautiful manner . Everyone says that Sahaja Yogis look very different from others. There's a glow on their face, they look like flowers. " The simple village people of Cabella were impressed by the collective behaviour of the Sahaja Yogis. We have to just have " pure desire to get to that greater personality of love and beautiful relationships. " When you worship the Adi Kundalini, " the reflection in you which is your own Kundalini feels very happy, also the Deities feel happy, In that happy mood you can achieve a very much deeper experience,,.. But to keep it up you have to meditate; otherwise all these strands will go back, slip down, which have come out in the Puja. Try to get out of this every day to day nonsensical life. If you want you can do it--it's again a question of your wanting. " " So in your introspection, in your Pujas, in your meditation if you see for yourself why are you mediating, it is for pure desire of compassion and love to be awakened within us, You're already in the meditation, you're already growing. The growth has started and you'll grow so fast that this shell which is this human conditioning and ego will break open. And then this small little thing which is only in the triangular bone... manifests and can save the whole world. " When we sing together, clapping and feeling the joy in very simple music, the joy we feel is because our Kundalini dances and is happy when we ask for nothing but the enjoyment of collectivity. " Collectivity doesn't mean we all should be stuck together with some glue or something or we all become like rock of Gibraltar.... lt means wherever you are, you are connected..,. The connecting line is of love, and not of hatred.... But people will live together and everyday break each others' heads. " Collectivity is " where there's not the other, there's no other personality. These personalities are separated from you because of left and right or could be both. But you are your Self fully when you are absolutely detached and your Kundalini's dancing. You're alone and never alone. This oneness with the whole gives you all the security that you want, all the joy you want, and that's why Kundalini awakening means collectivity . Unless and until you want pure collectivity in your being, Kundalini won't rise, " When we become so detached that we don't want anything with anyone, the detachment becomes really enjoyable, and in that detachment we enjoy others. " That means you enjoy the spirit of another person through your spirit. " So the relationship with the Adi Kundalini is that it is the reflection of the Adi Kundalini. In the Turya state, the reflection of our personality is four-dimensional. " The reflector is the desire and the reflection is complete. " When we worship the Adi Kundalini, what we are trying to do is to cleanse the Kundalini as well as please the Deities. The object doesn't change but the reflection can change. " The movement of Kundalini also depends on the temperament of the person, what sort of a desire he has for his Kundalini to rise. " When our desires are pure, then our desires work out. " When it works the whole thing out you develop that faith within your Self... [which] nobody can challenge. " It is not blind faith, but an open eyes, experienced faith which is established within and cannot be challenged . " If you have the faith, it will be done. " " l have been telling Sahaja Yogis not to say something offhand because you must know you are connected now. Your pure desire is now being fulfilled and you are now connected, now you are divine, you are realized souls, you are very different from others.... l can't talk like this to anyone.... It is beyond their mind, but for you all this subtle knowledge is just being absorbed because your Kundalini is absorbing it. Now as it is, you know l always perspire too much because l go on absorbing your heat. l absorb so much that l perspire. So despite the fact that you people are having a nice cool breeze and l am feeling hot. So this your Kundalini also absorbs. Whatever you absorb is absorbed by Me.... Your Kundalini is a barometer, and She tells you what is wrong with others, with yourself,.,. The Kundalini is purity, is the reflector, and the more you become a better reflector the more Kundalini shows. " We all have our own separate Kundalini which is " different from others in a way that Her awareness about us is different, but in Her function, in Her methods She is just the same in everyone.... She knows you very well, out and out. Remember this. You cannot cheat . Her " We worship our Kundalini to give Her all the credit, that " Oh, Mother, You have given us these great powers, You have given us this subtle knowledge within ourselves, You have given us the love which encompasses the whole world, and the more you become aware of Her connections-very, very delicate connections then you will be amazed. " To develop ourselves and grow, we have to ask and desire for something very beautiful. But if our attention is moving on nonsensical things, how will we g row'? " That's why l said we have to meditate so we get into thoughtless awareness by which we allow the Kundalini to grow. l hope after today's program people will pay attention to their own Kundalini and not to the defects of other people. First you must grow and develop a personality of that compassion and love and everything.'. Then you will grow into " a beautiful picture of perfection as a human being. " Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi Shri Adi Kundalini Puja, Germany , August 11 , 1991 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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