Who is Shri Adishakti? A reminder to all SYs against www.adishakti.org

[Guest guest]

, " Balwinder " <balwinderdr

wrote:

>

> We can all judge for ourselves what is nonsense and what is not

> and so do most SYs know what is Sahaj and what is not - if a

> person makes a wrong judgement it will only reflect on themselves.

> Mahesh had started the debate and the moderator/Jagbir allowed his

> post. IMHO Jagbir responded in the manner that he did with the

> knowledge that Mahesh(who has been on the forum for more than a

> year at least) knows quite well what is going on and how dedicated

> Jagbir is to the Adishakti.

>

 

Balwinder, Mahesh had communicated with me a number of times from

India and asked about immigrating to Canada. i wholeheartedly

encouraged him. And he was successful in 2005.

 

Mahesh came to my house last year as he wanted to purchase a digital

Nikon from a Montreal dealer whom he met at a Toronto camera show.

Prior to that i told him to stay at my place, instead of a hotel.

 

Over dinner he brought out the same " book/why you did not obey Her "

topic. i explained to him but was really uneasy as there was a hint

of anger in his voice. i told him too that Shri Mataji told

management SYs to leave me alone. (He knows the whole story well.)

 

He went back to Toronto and out of the blue attacked me on the

cleansing rituals. (At that time i realized that despite my all my

hospitality he still harbors the deep resentment and jealousy that

had its origins years before he ever knew me. It is a festering

wound those influenced by Yogi Mahajan and his murmuring souls have

in common. Such wounds just do not heal, so powerful is the

negativity unleashed by this ex-world leader.)

 

That is when i pointed that he was only contradicting his own

previously stated opinion, and provided evidence. Mahesh had just

lashed for no reason, his judgment clouded by the pain of that

festering wound. After all his hometown Bombay is not far from Yogi

Mahajan's Pune, the center of gravity and grovel to all who paid

obeisance to that undisputed lord of influence and Inquisytion.

 

SYs like Mahesh are fixated on the false presumption that Shri

Mataji wanted the sites removed, and that i did not obey Her. Even

providing them evidence hardly changes their mindset because that is

what management SYs and WCASY wants the rank and file to believe.

That is why Mahesh brought up the issue yet again, despite knowing

all the details.

 

So what can we do with such people? i would gladly have answered his

normal queries but he brought up the book/website issue yet again. i

thought to myself: " When will he stop? " and knew his intention was

to peck open my old wound, perhaps a pleasure enjoyed by those who

goad such fools.

 

Mahesh just continued from where he left in Montreal, unhappy and

unable to bear the disappointment that Shri Mahamaya allowed a

loophole for Jagbir to continue unhindered. Like management SYs,

leaders and WCASY, he is just as frustrated that the websites are

not shut down. They are all fixated on this issue despite years and

just cannot get over it and move on.

 

So when such negativity attacks again and again you have to come out

of the witness state and completely demolish it once and for all.

Mahesh is going to lick those wounds for a long time. The same fate

awaits all those against Her Divine Message, my children, family or

myself. As i have told Simon and JN: " i make a good friend but a far

better enemy. " The same goes for Mahesh too.

 

After 10 years of enduring repetitive insults to a night-soil

carrier like me the sh*t i am forced to throw back can be

physically, never mentally, cleaned. Before attacking me they should

know what was told years ago to those with the same agenda:

 

SHRI MATAJI TOLD THEM I AM NOT DOING ANYTHING WRONG AND THAT THEY

SHOULD LEAVE ME ALONE.

 

So let sleeping night-soil carriers like me lie in peace. i need it

to complete the job i was assigned by the Shakti. No management SY

or World Council member will ever be able to stop Her bhaktas from

declaring the Divine Message to humanity. Ultimately only Truth and

those upholding it against all odds and tribulations will triumph.

 

jagbir

[Guest guest]

, " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org wrote:

>

> After 10 years of enduring repetitive insults to a night-soil

> carrier like me the sh*t i am forced to throw back can be

> physically, never mentally, cleaned. Before attacking me they

> should know what was told years ago to those with the same agenda:

>

> SHRI MATAJI TOLD THEM I AM NOT DOING ANYTHING WRONG AND THAT THEY

> SHOULD LEAVE ME ALONE.

>

> So let sleeping night-soil carriers like me lie in peace. i need

> it to complete the job i was assigned by the Shakti. No management

> SY or World Council member will ever be able to stop Her bhaktas

> from declaring the Divine Message to humanity. Ultimately only

> Truth and those upholding it against all odds and tribulations

> will triumph.

>

> jagbir

>

/message/5850

 

 

" jagbir singh " <adishakti_org

Sun Jul 17, 2005 11:25 am

Re: On having an open transparent society.

 

, " semirafields "

<semirafields> wrote:

 

> We have to face up to the fact that Shri Mataji has set up the SY

> organisation in the way that She has wanted, and that this is not

> something that can be changed by us. The SY organisation will

> remain officially a centre offering a meditation technique for

> stress release and relaxation, as is advertised on the official

> websites and pamphlets handed out by its promoters. Having

> carefully considered this for some time, I am no longer prepared

> to be part of an organisation that practises deception and double

> standards.

>

> Love and best wishes, Semira

>

 

Dear Semira,

 

Shri Mataji _never_ set up the SY organization as it is today.

Leaders posting envelopes are just part and parcel of the Post

Office. Only fools look up to them for guidance instead of Shri

Mataji. i have to admit there are many fools who have little

discretion and wisdom to understand that Shri Mataji came only to

deliver the Divine Message. The rest - self-realization, chakras,

catches, treatments - are part and parcel of this Divine Message.

 

But those leaders who carry and post the letters have assumed a far

greater role for themselves. Knowing that many of the recipients are

blind, these postmen assumed the unauthorized responsibility of

reading the letters to these illiterate fools. Not being able to

explain the deep truth of the Divine Message themselves these

embarrassed but egoistic postmen interpreted it according to the

level of their ignorance. (i too was unfortunate enough to listen to

them in the beginning).

 

Over the decades the Divine Message has been mutilated beyond

recognition. Not only that but all the blind have gossiped and

murmured to each other and new seekers, making each as ignorant as

another. That is the situation today where those new seekers,

reminded by this forum as to the truth of the Divine Message, are

appalled at the dishonesty at the local post office. They want to

quit such deceitful organization in protest.

 

i too quit the local post office years ago as my conscience could not

compromise with the lack of integrity in the organization. But i did

not abandon the Divine Message as i knew how powerful postmen were

clandestinely subverting the rules and regulations of the Post

Office. However, ever since the adevnt of the internet i found out

that their monopoly over the transfer and interpretation of messages

and instructions was finally over.

 

So if you want to stamp out institutionalized corruption it is

imperative you either be prepared to leave the organization, or

meditate deeply to understand that it is actually all a myth, a

mirage. If you do not understand what I am trying to say then the

postmen will always read and interpret the letters for you.

 

and these postmen will always ring more than twice,

 

 

jagbir

 

 

jagbir singh

 

Monday, July 11, 2005 12:32 PM

Re: Even Her repeated advise " Be

your own guru " is now being mutilated.

 

, " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org> wrote:

>

> Violet, your insistence in being your own guru, understanding and

> proclaiming Shri Mataji's Vision to all seekers, leaves these

> control freaks with no leverage to manipulate you. It is history

> repeating itself - the priestly Church consolidating power by

> suppressing all views that threatened their organized truth. Even

> though Shri Mataji wants us to be our own gurus these facilitators

> are trying to imply that She has made an error. Even Her words are

> now being mutilated.

>

 

 

In its first reading, Animal Farm seems like a story with animals

that can speak, read, think and communicate with each other but

there are hidden meanings and metaphors throughout the book. The

story starts in an English farm, " Manor Council Farm " with a Mr

Jones as the owner. One day, the oldest and wisest animal on the

farm, a boar, tells his fellow animals about his Divine Dream. His

dream was to establish the Divine Message on earth with animals

getting self-realization, meditating, taking care of themselves and

their spiritual needs without any human masters. He also warns them

about not adopting the vices of Kali Yuga that humans had succumbed

to e.g. drinking, smoking, fornication, greed etc. Eventually they

were to spread this Divine Message to humans as well.

 

After his untimely death, one day the animals revolt and take over

the farm, which is renamed as Animal Council Farm. The pigs become

the decision makers, as they were the most intelligent with two

pigs, Snowball and Napoleon holding the reins of control. Animalism

also had seven rules, namely:

 

1. Whatever goes upon two legs is an enemy.

2. Whatever goes upon four legs or has wings is a friend.

3. No animal shall wear clothes.

4. No animal shall sleep in a bed.

5. No animal shall drink alcohol.

6. No animal shall kill any other animal.

7. All animals are equal.

8. All animals are free to speak openly.

9. All animals must meditate and learn to be their own masters.

10. All animals will be registered on Animal Farm mailing list.

 

What happens afterwards is a classic example of corrupted power.

Snowball, while making plans to build a windmill and website, which

would improve the conditions and fame on the farm by advertising

worldwide, was attacked and chased out of ACF (Animal Council Farm)

by Napoleon and a pack of ferociously murmuring dogs. What follows

was that Squealer Mahajan, effectively the propaganda manager and

defacto demi-god, changes history by lying to the animals like RP

that Snowball and his kids were in fact, traitors, and it was

Napoleon who exposed them and chased them out of ACF and the IACFS

(International Animal Council Farm School).

 

Through deception and treachery, these murmuring pigs turned the

naive animals on Snowball and made them think like slaves, while the

pigs and dogs enjoyed basking themselves in the reflected glory of

being chosen to rule. The rank and file tried to build the windmill

and website, but it ended up being destroyed every time. It showed

the slow change from truthful, easy-going, self-realized pigs to

lying, manipulative, control-obsessed humans.

 

The rules were also changed by the party in power, in this case,

honarary ACF members. They were changed to:

 

1. Four legs good, two legs better.

2. No animal shall wear clothes.

3. No animal shall sleep in a bed with sheets.

4. No animal shall drink alcohol to excess.

5. No animal shall kill any other animal.

6. All animals are equal but chosen ones are more equal than others.

7. All animals who question the council decisions will be exiled.

8. All animals who tell the plain Truth will be excommunicated.

9. All animals who claim to be their own masters must undergo

deprogramming treatments and become pets of council masters.

10. All animals caught secretly supporting that traitor Snowball

Singh will be removed from the Animal Farm mailing list.

[Guest guest]

Dear Jagbir,

 

Never has the Divine Message of an Incarnation been undeclared and

under-declared the way it is happening for Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, even while

She is still on Earth. As i am a Sahaja Yogi coming from the Christian

background, i am very aware of the Divine Message of the Last Judgment and

Resurrection that Shri Mataji has given which fulfills the promises of Jesus's

Divine Message of the Last Judgment and Resurrection.

 

i want to remind everyone that i heard from Shri Mataji's Own Lips, at Sydney

Airport, the first time i ever saw Shri Mataji in person, that She said that if

Her Message is not given from WITHIN the Organization, that it will be carried

out by Sahaja Yogis from WITHOUT the Organization, and then She said She would

see if they were " up to that " . Those were Her exact Words..... " if they were up

to that " .

 

Of course, being a new Sahaja Yogi, i was quite surprised at these Words. i

could not think how in any way they would NOT " be up to that " . Today, i am not

surprised anymore at these Words.

 

The Message that Shri Mataji was referring to in Sydney Airport that day could

NOT have been the " Subtle System Divine Message " , because " The Subtle System

Divine Message " was already being spread far and wide at that time.

 

Therefore, She HAD TO BE referring to the continuing " Divine Message of Jesus's

Last Judgment and Resurrection Message " .

 

Jagbir, you have my complete support to spread the Message of the Last Judgment

and Resurrection of the Adi Shakti. i will spare no effort to help you and

empower you with what Shri Mataji has asked all Sahaja Yogis to faithfully carry

out.

 

love and best wishes,

 

Violet

 

 

In , " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org wrote:

>

> , " jagbir singh "

> <adishakti_org@> wrote:

> >

> > After 10 years of enduring repetitive insults to a night-soil

> > carrier like me the sh*t i am forced to throw back can be

> > physically, never mentally, cleaned. Before attacking me they

> > should know what was told years ago to those with the same agenda:

> >

> > SHRI MATAJI TOLD THEM I AM NOT DOING ANYTHING WRONG AND THAT THEY

> > SHOULD LEAVE ME ALONE.

> >

> > So let sleeping night-soil carriers like me lie in peace. i need

> > it to complete the job i was assigned by the Shakti. No management

> > SY or World Council member will ever be able to stop Her bhaktas

> > from declaring the Divine Message to humanity. Ultimately only

> > Truth and those upholding it against all odds and tribulations

> > will triumph.

> >

> > jagbir

> >

> /message/5850

>

>

> " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org

> Sun Jul 17, 2005 11:25 am

> Re: On having an open transparent society.

>

> , " semirafields "

> <semirafields> wrote:

>

> > We have to face up to the fact that Shri Mataji has set up the SY

> > organisation in the way that She has wanted, and that this is not

> > something that can be changed by us. The SY organisation will

> > remain officially a centre offering a meditation technique for

> > stress release and relaxation, as is advertised on the official

> > websites and pamphlets handed out by its promoters. Having

> > carefully considered this for some time, I am no longer prepared

> > to be part of an organisation that practises deception and double

> > standards.

> >

> > Love and best wishes, Semira

> >

>

> Dear Semira,

>

> Shri Mataji _never_ set up the SY organization as it is today.

> Leaders posting envelopes are just part and parcel of the Post

> Office. Only fools look up to them for guidance instead of Shri

> Mataji. i have to admit there are many fools who have little

> discretion and wisdom to understand that Shri Mataji came only to

> deliver the Divine Message. The rest - self-realization, chakras,

> catches, treatments - are part and parcel of this Divine Message.

>

> But those leaders who carry and post the letters have assumed a far

> greater role for themselves. Knowing that many of the recipients are

> blind, these postmen assumed the unauthorized responsibility of

> reading the letters to these illiterate fools. Not being able to

> explain the deep truth of the Divine Message themselves these

> embarrassed but egoistic postmen interpreted it according to the

> level of their ignorance. (i too was unfortunate enough to listen to

> them in the beginning).

>

> Over the decades the Divine Message has been mutilated beyond

> recognition. Not only that but all the blind have gossiped and

> murmured to each other and new seekers, making each as ignorant as

> another. That is the situation today where those new seekers,

> reminded by this forum as to the truth of the Divine Message, are

> appalled at the dishonesty at the local post office. They want to

> quit such deceitful organization in protest.

>

> i too quit the local post office years ago as my conscience could

not

> compromise with the lack of integrity in the organization. But i did

> not abandon the Divine Message as i knew how powerful postmen were

> clandestinely subverting the rules and regulations of the Post

> Office. However, ever since the adevnt of the internet i found out

> that their monopoly over the transfer and interpretation of messages

> and instructions was finally over.

>

> So if you want to stamp out institutionalized corruption it is

> imperative you either be prepared to leave the organization, or

> meditate deeply to understand that it is actually all a myth, a

> mirage. If you do not understand what I am trying to say then the

> postmen will always read and interpret the letters for you.

>

> and these postmen will always ring more than twice,

>

>

> jagbir

>

>

> jagbir singh

>

> Monday, July 11, 2005 12:32 PM

> Re: Even Her repeated advise " Be

> your own guru " is now being mutilated.

>

> , " jagbir singh "

> <adishakti_org> wrote:

> >

> > Violet, your insistence in being your own guru, understanding and

> > proclaiming Shri Mataji's Vision to all seekers, leaves these

> > control freaks with no leverage to manipulate you. It is history

> > repeating itself - the priestly Church consolidating power by

> > suppressing all views that threatened their organized truth. Even

> > though Shri Mataji wants us to be our own gurus these facilitators

> > are trying to imply that She has made an error. Even Her words are

> > now being mutilated.

> >

>

>

> In its first reading, Animal Farm seems like a story with animals

> that can speak, read, think and communicate with each other but

> there are hidden meanings and metaphors throughout the book. The

> story starts in an English farm, " Manor Council Farm " with a Mr

> Jones as the owner. One day, the oldest and wisest animal on the

> farm, a boar, tells his fellow animals about his Divine Dream. His

> dream was to establish the Divine Message on earth with animals

> getting self-realization, meditating, taking care of themselves and

> their spiritual needs without any human masters. He also warns them

> about not adopting the vices of Kali Yuga that humans had succumbed

> to e.g. drinking, smoking, fornication, greed etc. Eventually they

> were to spread this Divine Message to humans as well.

>

> After his untimely death, one day the animals revolt and take over

> the farm, which is renamed as Animal Council Farm. The pigs become

> the decision makers, as they were the most intelligent with two

> pigs, Snowball and Napoleon holding the reins of control. Animalism

> also had seven rules, namely:

>

> 1. Whatever goes upon two legs is an enemy.

> 2. Whatever goes upon four legs or has wings is a friend.

> 3. No animal shall wear clothes.

> 4. No animal shall sleep in a bed.

> 5. No animal shall drink alcohol.

> 6. No animal shall kill any other animal.

> 7. All animals are equal.

> 8. All animals are free to speak openly.

> 9. All animals must meditate and learn to be their own masters.

> 10. All animals will be registered on Animal Farm mailing list.

>

> What happens afterwards is a classic example of corrupted power.

> Snowball, while making plans to build a windmill and website, which

> would improve the conditions and fame on the farm by advertising

> worldwide, was attacked and chased out of ACF (Animal Council Farm)

> by Napoleon and a pack of ferociously murmuring dogs. What follows

> was that Squealer Mahajan, effectively the propaganda manager and

> defacto demi-god, changes history by lying to the animals like RP

> that Snowball and his kids were in fact, traitors, and it was

> Napoleon who exposed them and chased them out of ACF and the IACFS

> (International Animal Council Farm School).

>

> Through deception and treachery, these murmuring pigs turned the

> naive animals on Snowball and made them think like slaves, while the

> pigs and dogs enjoyed basking themselves in the reflected glory of

> being chosen to rule. The rank and file tried to build the windmill

> and website, but it ended up being destroyed every time. It showed

> the slow change from truthful, easy-going, self-realized pigs to

> lying, manipulative, control-obsessed humans.

>

> The rules were also changed by the party in power, in this case,

> honarary ACF members. They were changed to:

>

> 1. Four legs good, two legs better.

> 2. No animal shall wear clothes.

> 3. No animal shall sleep in a bed with sheets.

> 4. No animal shall drink alcohol to excess.

> 5. No animal shall kill any other animal.

> 6. All animals are equal but chosen ones are more equal than others.

> 7. All animals who question the council decisions will be exiled.

> 8. All animals who tell the plain Truth will be excommunicated.

> 9. All animals who claim to be their own masters must undergo

> deprogramming treatments and become pets of council masters.

> 10. All animals caught secretly supporting that traitor Snowball

> Singh will be removed from the Animal Farm mailing list.

>