Guest guest Posted March 22, 2006 Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 Dear Violet, After reading this: " THE HOLY SHEKINAH SPIRIT Among the Hebrews one of the traditional names of God is the Shekinah, and, interestingly, it is a feminine gender noun. Many Hebrews saw her as the mother or feminine aspect of God. The early scribes (later called rabbis) added Shekinah in biblical verses where the verb shakhan is used in relation to God. Shakhan literally means " to dwell " or " to live with " , or even " to pitch one's tent. " The Shekinah means the God-Who-Dwells-Within, and developed primarily after the destruction of the Temple of Solomon in 587 BCE, especially as it proffered hope to a people lost in bitter exile. To console an Israel in Diaspora, the comforting, forgiving and loyal presence of the Shekinah emerged. In the Talmud it says: " They were exiled to Babylon, the Shekinah with them. They were exiled to Egypt, the Shekinah with them. " And, it says in Lamentations 1, 5, " Her children are gone into captivity, " and immediately after (1,6), " From Zion her splendour is departed. " (Note the use of " her " for God and " splendour " is also one of the ways to describe the Shekinah). Other terms referring to the Shekinah are " the glory " and " radiance " , and she was the cloud by night and pillar of fire by day that led the Israelites through the Sinai wilderness. She is also closely related to the Sophia tradition in the Hebrew Bible (the Old Testament) in Proverbs and other books. Sophia (a Greek feminine noun) is the Wisdom aspect of God. As a Wisdom Teacher Jesus was very closely related to the Sophia Tradition. The Shekinah eventually became an interchangeable term with the Holy Spirit in both Judaism and Christianity. She is often pictured as a bird or dove. In Christianity the Holy Spirit is seen as the Advocate, Guide and Comforter (John 14:16-26 and Acts 9:31), and we can clearly see the Judaic origins of this tradition. There is even a more direct connection to the Hebrew tradition of the Shekinah, as St. Paul, the former Pharisee, stresses the indwelling nature of the Holy Spirit throughout his famous passage in Romans 8: " But you are not in the flesh; you are in the Spirit, since the Spirit of God dwells in you. " (Romans 8:8) There is even a universalist tradition in some Hebrew Midrash writings: " I call heaven and earth to witness that whether it be Gentile or Israelite, man or woman, slave or handmaid, according to the deeds which he does, so will the Holy Spirit rest upon him. " This is reminiscent of John's report of Jesus' statements to Nicodemus, when Jesus said: " The wind [spirit] blows where it chooses…. " (John 3:8), that is, the Holy Spirit will serve all peoples, not just Christians or Jews. Paul also offers a similar notion in Galatians 3:28: " There is no longer Jew or Greek, there is no longer slave and free, there is no longer male and female; for all of you are one in Christ Jesus. " And, it is well- established that both Paul and John frequently equated Jesus Christ with the Holy Spirit as seen in the Romans 8 passages and the Paraclete passages of John 14-16. " i think " mother " may be too Eastern for the western Judeo-Christian mind. " Shekinah " is a better choice as She is the Holy Spirit too. So i have replaced www.holyspirit-mother with www.holyspirit- shekinah. This will synthesize and harmonize Jewish and Christian teachings. Moreover, it will give you more material and options to work and expand the intitial base over time. Shri Mataji wants us to draw all religions together and bring peace and harmony among their followers. It is only the Divine Feminine and Her Divine Message to humanity that will enable this. That Jews too are waiting for the Messiah will be most relevant to this challenging task in www.holyspirit-shekinah.org. You now have the optimum conditions to nourish your creative talents and desire. i see great future potential in this sacred undertaking. i have chosen to relinquish all control over this project so that you can be totally unfettered to bring the best of your creative talents and communicative skills. i cannot contain the joy and confidence that tomorrow a great oak tree will grow from this tiny acorn you have in the palm of your hands today. i wish you success and Her guidance in this well-deserved endeavour. Perhaps She is pleased with your years of steadfast devotion and it is Her Gift to you. warmest regards, jagbir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2006 Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 Dear Jagbir, i too have tears (not in my eyes but in my heart) for your beautiful words. Thank you so much for this opportunity, which will take time for me to accomplish, however, as i surrender to Her re this project, i know She will accomplish what needs to be done. i have an overseas guest (a niece staying) at the moment and i cannot give my full attention to the task at hand. It may be 2 more weeks that she is staying which is nice, too in that i will get to know a family member i have only seen maybe 3 times in her lifetime as she is only 19 years old. She is a beautiful soul coming from a Christian Fundamentalist background, so i find it difficult to do such writings at the moment. However, the young people i think are different. There does seem to be a seeking, and not the same 'fundamentalistic blindness' and this gives me hope for them, too. In any case, my sisters and brothers seem to be more open minded and not so 'fundamentalistically minded' as the older generation were. There definitely seems to be a difference. It may not seem so outwardly, but when i talk to them, it seems that way, inwardly...anyway. Maybe, it is just that they are sincere Christians and beautiful souls, too. Jagbir, i again want to thank you for this opportunity. i see much potential too. The " Shekinah " is a definite winner. Even when i was in Christianity, the Shekinah Word came up. There was a Christian hymn with the word " Shekinah " in it, and when i sang that Word, something always 'welled' up within me; a 'knowing' of some kind. i would ask what " Shekinah " meant, and nobody could really tell me. Now, i think that the Word " Shekinah " is probably more understood among Christians, especially Pentecostal Christians who often use that Word. Maybe, also the word " Shekinah " was very much 'down-played' in traditional Christianity, because the theologians taught that the Holy Spirit only came to the Disciples on the Day of Pentecost - a 'once-off' occasion. Therefore, in traditional Christian circles, they did not use or encourage the use of the 'Shekinah' Word. Christians felt that their Jewish brothers and sisters had rejected Jesus, and a spiritual/religious rift happened due to that misunderstanding. i believe that Christians and Judaism are so closely related. The heritage of Christianity is from Jewish Roots. And to a great extent Christianity has gone away from those roots. i would like to explore to a greater extent and bring out all the Truths. i have no idea what i will write, but as you have told me, just go into the " Silence " and the words will come. So, if i am not writing a lot at the moment, i can assure you that my thoughts and attention is still on this forum/s where are the only place/places i can see Shri Mataji's Message going forth in greatest detail and for all spiritual traditions...to help us all to come to a spiritual understanding... as She has asked us to do. love and best wishes, Violet , " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org wrote: > > Dear Violet, > > After reading this: > > " THE HOLY SHEKINAH SPIRIT > > Among the Hebrews one of the traditional names of God is the > Shekinah, and, interestingly, it is a feminine gender noun. Many > Hebrews saw her as the mother or feminine aspect of God. The early > scribes (later called rabbis) added Shekinah in biblical verses > where the verb shakhan is used in relation to God. Shakhan literally > means " to dwell " or " to live with " , or even " to pitch one's tent. " > The Shekinah means the God-Who-Dwells-Within, and developed > primarily after the destruction of the Temple of Solomon in 587 BCE, > especially as it proffered hope to a people lost in bitter exile. To > console an Israel in Diaspora, the comforting, forgiving and loyal > presence of the Shekinah emerged. In the Talmud it says: " They were > exiled to Babylon, the Shekinah with them. They were exiled to > Egypt, the Shekinah with them. " And, it says in Lamentations 1, > 5, " Her children are gone into captivity, " and immediately after > (1,6), " From Zion her splendour is departed. " (Note the use of " her " > for God and " splendour " is also one of the ways to describe the > Shekinah). Other terms referring to the Shekinah are " the glory " > and " radiance " , and she was the cloud by night and pillar of fire by > day that led the Israelites through the Sinai wilderness. She is > also closely related to the Sophia tradition in the Hebrew Bible > (the Old Testament) in Proverbs and other books. Sophia (a Greek > feminine noun) is the Wisdom aspect of God. As a Wisdom Teacher > Jesus was very closely related to the Sophia Tradition. > > The Shekinah eventually became an interchangeable term with the Holy > Spirit in both Judaism and Christianity. She is often pictured as a > bird or dove. In Christianity the Holy Spirit is seen as the > Advocate, Guide and Comforter (John 14:16-26 and Acts 9:31), and we > can clearly see the Judaic origins of this tradition. There is even > a more direct connection to the Hebrew tradition of the Shekinah, as > St. Paul, the former Pharisee, stresses the indwelling nature of the > Holy Spirit throughout his famous passage in Romans 8: " But you are > not in the flesh; you are in the Spirit, since the Spirit of God > dwells in you. " (Romans 8:8) There is even a universalist tradition > in some Hebrew Midrash writings: " I call heaven and earth to witness > that whether it be Gentile or Israelite, man or woman, slave or > handmaid, according to the deeds which he does, so will the Holy > Spirit rest upon him. " This is reminiscent of John's report of > Jesus' statements to Nicodemus, when Jesus said: " The wind [spirit] > blows where it chooses…. " (John 3:8), that is, the Holy Spirit will > serve all peoples, not just Christians or Jews. Paul also offers a > similar notion in Galatians 3:28: " There is no longer Jew or Greek, > there is no longer slave and free, there is no longer male and > female; for all of you are one in Christ Jesus. " And, it is well- > established that both Paul and John frequently equated Jesus Christ > with the Holy Spirit as seen in the Romans 8 passages and the > Paraclete passages of John 14-16. " > > > i think " mother " may be too Eastern for the western Judeo-Christian > mind. " Shekinah " is a better choice as She is the Holy Spirit too. > So i have replaced www.holyspirit-mother with www.holyspirit- > shekinah. This will synthesize and harmonize Jewish and Christian > teachings. Moreover, it will give you more material and options to > work and expand the intitial base over time. > > Shri Mataji wants us to draw all religions together and bring peace > and harmony among their followers. It is only the Divine Feminine > and Her Divine Message to humanity that will enable this. That Jews > too are waiting for the Messiah will be most relevant to this > challenging task in www.holyspirit-shekinah.org. You now have the > optimum conditions to nourish your creative talents and desire. i > see great future potential in this sacred undertaking. i have chosen > to relinquish all control over this project so that you can be > totally unfettered to bring the best of your creative talents and > communicative skills. i cannot contain the joy and confidence that > tomorrow a great oak tree will grow from this tiny acorn you have in > the palm of your hands today. i wish you success and Her guidance in > this well-deserved endeavour. Perhaps She is pleased with your years > of steadfast devotion and it is Her Gift to you. > > warmest regards, > > > jagbir > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 , " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org wrote: " Shri Mataji wants us to draw all religions together and bring peace >and harmony among their followers. It is only the Divine Feminine > and Her Divine Message to humanity that will enable this. That Jews > too are waiting for the Messiah will be most relevant to this > challenging task in www.holyspirit-shekinah.org. You now have the > optimum conditions to nourish your creative talents and desire. i > see great future potential in this sacred undertaking. i have chosen > to relinquish all control over this project so that you can be > totally unfettered to bring the best of your creative talents and > communicative skills. i cannot contain the joy and confidence that > tomorrow a great oak tree will grow from this tiny acorn you have in > the palm of your hands today. i wish you success and Her guidance in > this well-deserved endeavour. Perhaps She is pleased with your years > of steadfast devotion and it is Her Gift to you. " Dear Jagbir, i again want to say that i thank you for your confidence in me. i too see the huge potential and we just need to rise to the challenge with confidence. i definitely see the necessity of this Sacred Task to help to usher in the Golden Age where people from ALL Spiritual Traditions will one day walk hand in hand in peace, knowing that they ALL are worshipping the One and Only God All Mighty. The greatest negativity is ignorance. That is what Shri Mataji has said. If we can all together with these websites dispel this spiritual ignorance that separates individuals, families, and nations...miracles of spiritual healing will occur that will far surpass anything we have even dreamed of. The Tree of Life will again have its Branches intact and be a flourishing Tree. (i am talking about the different spiritual traditions which presently have separated themselves from one another). It is the teachings of Shri Mataji and the knowledge that She has given, which no theologian or other scholar has given that gives us the opportunity to pursue this Sacred Task. One task that i know that will have to be tackled is this. Some Christians wrongly feel that Spiritual Unity of the varying spiritual traditions is actually a sign of the Anti-Christ....the 666...., etc. However, they are not 'seeing' the Spiritual Unity that also has been prophesied about, because seeing.... they 'do not see'. It is like the Truth has been 'turned completely around' by negativity. So, we have a huge task ahead but i know it will be a spiritually rewarding one. i am really glad that you have used the name " Shekinah " because it is a Powerful Name that resonates very deeply. It has always been a special name for me, somehow. It will also draw together the Christian and Jewish elements again as they were at the beginning before Chrisitanity so to speak 'took off on its own'. Thanks Jagbir for this great idea that will definitely help to draw the two traditions together, thus eliminating the separation that exists today, even if it is just in the minds of people. But it will come into their hearts as well, because this 'separation mentality' is a mentality ONLY. It is not real. The more we show the connections and reveal the Truth that Shri Matjai has given, the more will this 'artificial separateness' just dissolve with the Spiritual Light that will be shed on old issues. It is such a great scope of work that i can only feel to talk simply and truthfully and plainly about the Shekinah/Holy Spirit, and about God All Mighty. Shri Mataji always talked simply, plainly and truthfully. Her greatest desire was for all nations to become spiritually united again, the way it should be. For we are all brothers and sisters. We all come from the same Mother of All, and from the same Father of All. The Truth is really so simple, but it has been twisted to be the opposite of what it was In The Beginning. Jagbir, you said: " You now have the optimum conditions to nourish your creative talents and desire. i see great future potential in this sacred undertaking. i have chosen to relinquish all control over this project so that you can be totally unfettered to bring the best of your creative talents and communicative skills. i cannot contain the joy and confidence that tomorrow a great oak tree will grow from this tiny acorn you have in the palm of your hands today. " (i am so glad, Jagbir, that you do see the 'invisible'. It is a great gift that you have to see the job that needs to be done, and that you just go ahead and do it. You can see the great future potential in this Sacred Undertaking, and i know that it is all the small steps that count. If we take small steps, the big steps take care of themselves. Every great venture happens from these small steps taken, which we do not know where they will lead, but the Paramchaitanya works it out. It is only obedience to the Divine that is required. The Divine works in amazing ways to perform the tasks at hand that need doing. The task at hand is the Spiritual Emancipation of Humanity. We indeed have a great task ahead of us, and i know She will use our efforts and those others who join us and provide their creative talents also in this Greatest Task of All Time. There is no task that is more important!) warmest regards, Violet , " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org wrote: > > Dear Violet, > > After reading this: > > " THE HOLY SHEKINAH SPIRIT > > Among the Hebrews one of the traditional names of God is the > Shekinah, and, interestingly, it is a feminine gender noun. Many > Hebrews saw her as the mother or feminine aspect of God. The early > scribes (later called rabbis) added Shekinah in biblical verses > where the verb shakhan is used in relation to God. Shakhan literally > means " to dwell " or " to live with " , or even " to pitch one's tent. " > The Shekinah means the God-Who-Dwells-Within, and developed > primarily after the destruction of the Temple of Solomon in 587 BCE, > especially as it proffered hope to a people lost in bitter exile. To > console an Israel in Diaspora, the comforting, forgiving and loyal > presence of the Shekinah emerged. In the Talmud it says: " They were > exiled to Babylon, the Shekinah with them. They were exiled to > Egypt, the Shekinah with them. " And, it says in Lamentations 1, > 5, " Her children are gone into captivity, " and immediately after > (1,6), " From Zion her splendour is departed. " (Note the use of " her " > for God and " splendour " is also one of the ways to describe the > Shekinah). Other terms referring to the Shekinah are " the glory " > and " radiance " , and she was the cloud by night and pillar of fire by > day that led the Israelites through the Sinai wilderness. She is > also closely related to the Sophia tradition in the Hebrew Bible > (the Old Testament) in Proverbs and other books. Sophia (a Greek > feminine noun) is the Wisdom aspect of God. As a Wisdom Teacher > Jesus was very closely related to the Sophia Tradition. > > The Shekinah eventually became an interchangeable term with the Holy > Spirit in both Judaism and Christianity. She is often pictured as a > bird or dove. In Christianity the Holy Spirit is seen as the > Advocate, Guide and Comforter (John 14:16-26 and Acts 9:31), and we > can clearly see the Judaic origins of this tradition. There is even > a more direct connection to the Hebrew tradition of the Shekinah, as > St. Paul, the former Pharisee, stresses the indwelling nature of the > Holy Spirit throughout his famous passage in Romans 8: " But you are > not in the flesh; you are in the Spirit, since the Spirit of God > dwells in you. " (Romans 8:8) There is even a universalist tradition > in some Hebrew Midrash writings: " I call heaven and earth to witness > that whether it be Gentile or Israelite, man or woman, slave or > handmaid, according to the deeds which he does, so will the Holy > Spirit rest upon him. " This is reminiscent of John's report of > Jesus' statements to Nicodemus, when Jesus said: " The wind [spirit] > blows where it chooses…. " (John 3:8), that is, the Holy Spirit will > serve all peoples, not just Christians or Jews. Paul also offers a > similar notion in Galatians 3:28: " There is no longer Jew or Greek, > there is no longer slave and free, there is no longer male and > female; for all of you are one in Christ Jesus. " And, it is well- > established that both Paul and John frequently equated Jesus Christ > with the Holy Spirit as seen in the Romans 8 passages and the > Paraclete passages of John 14-16. " > > > i think " mother " may be too Eastern for the western Judeo-Christian > mind. " Shekinah " is a better choice as She is the Holy Spirit too. > So i have replaced www.holyspirit-mother with www.holyspirit- > shekinah. This will synthesize and harmonize Jewish and Christian > teachings. Moreover, it will give you more material and options to > work and expand the intitial base over time. > > Shri Mataji wants us to draw all religions together and bring peace > and harmony among their followers. It is only the Divine Feminine > and Her Divine Message to humanity that will enable this. That Jews > too are waiting for the Messiah will be most relevant to this > challenging task in www.holyspirit-shekinah.org. You now have the > optimum conditions to nourish your creative talents and desire. i > see great future potential in this sacred undertaking. i have chosen > to relinquish all control over this project so that you can be > totally unfettered to bring the best of your creative talents and > communicative skills. i cannot contain the joy and confidence that > tomorrow a great oak tree will grow from this tiny acorn you have in > the palm of your hands today. i wish you success and Her guidance in > this well-deserved endeavour. Perhaps She is pleased with your years > of steadfast devotion and it is Her Gift to you. > > warmest regards, > > > jagbir > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 , " Violet " <violet.tubb wrote: > > i have an overseas guest (a niece staying) at the moment and i > cannot give my full attention to the task at hand. It may be 2 > more weeks that she is staying which is nice, too in that i will > get to know a family member i have only seen maybe 3 times in her > lifetime as she is only 19 years old. She is a beautiful soul > coming from a Christian Fundamentalist background, so i find it > difficult to do such writings at the moment. However, the young > people i think are different. There does seem to be a seeking, and > not the same 'fundamentalistic blindness' and this gives me hope > for them, too. In any case, my sisters and brothers seem to be > more open minded and not so 'fundamentalistically minded' as the > older generation were. There definitely seems to be a difference. > It may not seem so outwardly, but when i talk to them, it seems > that way, inwardly...anyway. Maybe, it is just that they are > sincere Christians and beautiful souls, too. > Dear Violet, In this experience lies the answer and surety that time is on our side i.e., the change in consciousness and critical mass we are looking for lies in the future. It is the younger generation that is going to enforce this change because of globalization and its far- reaching implications. i can see the relentless decay and erosion of religious regimes creating a spiritual vacuum that will be filled with the self-realization and faith of God's Kingdom (Sahasrara) within. The Temple/Church/Mosque/Synagogue/Gurdwara of God Almighty is within - the more who realize this the greater will be the impact upon His children. And there is so much more we can talk about this coming sea of change by standing firm on Her Divine Message. But we will need to work really hard - 24/7! However, that does not mean we cannot have a cup of chai, watch a good movie, take a stroll ............ or, in your case, entertain guests. Just take it easy and there is no need to rush. How about uploading www.holyspirit-shekinah.org on May 5, 2006? That would be really auspicious. And i am very bullish about Shekinah too. There is indeed great potential in this undertaking Violet. i am repeating myself because of my unrestrained confidence that over time it will turn out to be a masterpiece. You should realize that ultimately all seven websites will form an indistinguishable tight tapestry of spiritual colors, religious patterns, scriptural weaves and knowledge techniques based on Her Divine Message blueprint and instructions. Just follow Her words to the letter and She will work everything out for you - i am talking from years of experience. Specifically www.adishakti.org and www.al- qiyamah.org is testimony to this truth and Power of the Adi Shakti because its required preordained Sure Signs to manifest on Earth and commence Her Divine Message to humanity. They are the rock-solid foundations that will be further buttressed by the five new sites. By 2013 we will be done. So there is ample time Violet. warmest regards, jagbir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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