An important Query

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Dear All

 

Jai Shri Mataji

 

I am new to this forum. I am practising Sahaja Yoga for past one

year. However, I am not very regular but trying to be sincere.

 

I am facing so many problems on financial matters, in a huge bank

debt and so many family problems are also there.

 

Today, a relative of mine, who is a well known and really a very

good astrologer, visited my home. He analyzed my horoscope

thoroughly. I really appreciate the way he used to analyze the

things and his predictions are very nice and accurate.

 

He suggested me some rituals to perform to get rid of bad effects of

planets, on the basis of my horoscope. He indicated that some sort

of treatments are required for me to get rid of bad effects of

planets, viz, Saturn, Mercury, Moon, Mars and Jupitor. He suggested

me to do the treatments as early as possible. All treatments are

simple and there is no requirement of money to perform them.

 

But, I heard that Sahaja Yogis (sincere and good yogis) are free

from bad effects of planets. They enjoy protection of Adi Shakti and

therefore nothing like these outside rituals are required for Sahaja

Yogis.

 

I am totally confused what to be done. Whether to go ahead what my

astrologer relative has suggested me to perform (outside

astrological treatments) or to simply rely on shakti within by

continuing meditation on her and she will take care of all hurdles???

 

But, the situation is really critical for me as I am really very

much disturbed due to my financial and family problems, so that

constantly coming in my mind to perform all suggested astrological

remedies once. But in parallel, something inside me also constantly

telling me that I do not need any such rituals being a Sahaja Yogi

as all Sahaja Yogis are protected and planets can't effect them

badly. I am really very very confused what to be done?????

 

Can, some persons/yogis/yoginis here throw some light on this issue.

It will be appreciated to have a detailed discussion on this issue

as after joining here I gone through archieves of the forum but

found nothing there on this type of issue. I hope detailed

discussion on issues like this may be helpfull to other new fellow

yogis too who may be having similar confusions.

 

What HH Shri Mataji has said on such issues, if anybody have any

talk of Mother, I request then to post the same here alongwith

comments.

 

Regards !

 

Ramesh

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Dear Ramesh,

 

i would like to welcome you to this forum, Ramesh. i hope you will enjoy it. In

regards to your dilemma, i would also like to offer you my sympathy and

condolensces.

 

In regards to astrological influences, it is my understanding that astrology is

largely a forgotten wholistic science that once used to be part and parcel of

all sciences. It is also my understanding that astrological indicators help us

to understand the nature of the planetary forces that are around at a particular

time. In reality, these forces are actually the forces of the Divine set in

motion.

 

The way i personally understand the outworking of these forces is in the

practical way, and that is that .....sometimes we have days that no matter what

we do....everything just seems to happen easily and simply, without any great

effort. However, there are other days where in certain hours of the day, or even

the whole day itself…. that no matter how much effort we put into something, it

just does not seem to go forward, and if it does...it seems to happen with the

greatest of difficulty. i know everyone experiences this. It is just life and we

accept that.

 

So, the best way is to be the Spirit, and therefore go with the 'flow of the

Spirit' and all things will work out. Every day is different, with its unique

qualities and opportunities. The Preacher in Ecclesiastes 3:1 says: " There is an

appointed time for everything. And there is a time for every event under

heaven " . You obviously realize that now is the Time to act and do something

about the financial and family issues you are facing.

 

i would suggest that you get some help regarding your financial situation.

Perhaps you could contact your debtors and let them know that you are making

some arrangements, and would they please give you a certain amount of time to

sort things out. Then i would suggest that you get in touch with whatever agency

or adviser you are able to contact, and get some financial advice in dealing

with the situation. Financial advice can range from paying your debtors a

regular reasonable amount that you can afford, to refinancing, or to declaring

bankruptcy. The main thing to remember is, that to do ANYTHING, is better for

you than to do NOTHING. That way you can begin to move forward and it will make

you feel much better, also.

 

Secondly it will help if you can have some counsel regarding your family

problems, whether it is from a trusted friend or a professional counsellor, or

anyone you know that would be helpful. If you can confide in someone, then it

will help you deal with the issues, because in talking about your problems to a

trusted adviser, not only will your burden lighten, but you will also discover

solutions to your problems that you may not have thought of previously. It quite

frequently happens that when we present our problems to someone, with the aim

being able to resolve the issues, that what happens is that the other person is

like a 'sounding board' or a 'mirror' to us, whereby we can see ourselves and

our actions much more clearly. Often in this process, we are then able to come

up with the solutions ourselves!

 

Ramesh, Shri Mataji has advised Sahaja Yogis that when they have had their

Self-Realization/Second Birth/Kundalini Awakening (whichever you want to call

it)…………that they are connected to the All Pervading Power of the Universe

directly. What was impossible before becomes possible. The person then has the

power to become their Highest Self/Spirit and not to follow their Lower Self and

all its illusory senses.

 

When the kundalini rises, it goes against gravity. The kundalini within you is a

greater power than any planetary force, because She is the reflection of the

Power of God Almighty within you! When you enter this Kingdom of God within you,

you enter what is called 'eternity' where Time and Space cease to exist. You may

understand what I am talking about if you are able to remember a very deep

meditation that you might have experienced whereby time and spaced ceased to

exist for you.

 

It is in this space of communion with the Divine that all our problems are seen

exactly for what they are, and often it is in the understanding of these

`problems' in that `light' that they are automatically solved. This has happened

to me many times, Ramesh. When i have felt something `bothering' me or becoming

a `problem' for me, i have just gone within the Silence, and it is amazing how

going into the " Silence " can clear things up and somehow miraculously solve

them!

 

This happens when we surrender to the Divine within. Things become effortless,

there is One Life, the same on the outside as on the inside: -

 

" There should be no two types of life, one outside, one inside. When the outside

and inside become one, then it is effortless. " (The Australian Sahaja

Newsletter - 7 April, 1995)

 

There you have it, Ramesh. The outside and the inside need to be as One, in the

same way that your individual spirit becomes immersed in One Collective

Consciousness. In this state, all problems get solved in union with the Divine.

 

I am sure that we would all be surprised if we could only see the spiritual help

that we get from the Divine through prayer and meditation. The only way to find

out and experience this Divine Help is to surrender to the Divine, who works

things out for us.

 

King Solomon expressed this very well when he said:

 

Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own

understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.

(Proverbs 3:5-6)

 

I hope this helps.

 

Love and best wishes,

 

Violet

 

, " rk_sahaji " <rk_sahaji@

....> wrote:

>

> Dear All

>

> Jai Shri Mataji

>

> I am new to this forum. I am practising Sahaja Yoga for past one

> year. However, I am not very regular but trying to be sincere.

>

> I am facing so many problems on financial matters, in a huge bank

> debt and so many family problems are also there.

>

> Today, a relative of mine, who is a well known and really a very

> good astrologer, visited my home. He analyzed my horoscope

> thoroughly. I really appreciate the way he used to analyze the

> things and his predictions are very nice and accurate.

>

> He suggested me some rituals to perform to get rid of bad effects of

> planets, on the basis of my horoscope. He indicated that some sort

> of treatments are required for me to get rid of bad effects of

> planets, viz, Saturn, Mercury, Moon, Mars and Jupitor. He suggested

> me to do the treatments as early as possible. All treatments are

> simple and there is no requirement of money to perform them.

>

> But, I heard that Sahaja Yogis (sincere and good yogis) are free

> from bad effects of planets. They enjoy protection of Adi Shakti and

> therefore nothing like these outside rituals are required for Sahaja

> Yogis.

>

> I am totally confused what to be done. Whether to go ahead what my

> astrologer relative has suggested me to perform (outside

> astrological treatments) or to simply rely on shakti within by

> continuing meditation on her and she will take care of all hurdles?

??

>

> But, the situation is really critical for me as I am really very

> much disturbed due to my financial and family problems, so that

> constantly coming in my mind to perform all suggested astrological

> remedies once. But in parallel, something inside me also constantly

> telling me that I do not need any such rituals being a Sahaja Yogi

> as all Sahaja Yogis are protected and planets can't effect them

> badly. I am really very very confused what to be done?????

>

> Can, some persons/yogis/yoginis here throw some light on this issue.

> It will be appreciated to have a detailed discussion on this issue

> as after joining here I gone through archieves of the forum but

> found nothing there on this type of issue. I hope detailed

> discussion on issues like this may be helpfull to other new fellow

> yogis too who may be having similar confusions.

>

> What HH Shri Mataji has said on such issues, if anybody have any

> talk of Mother, I request then to post the same here alongwith

> comments.

>

> Regards !

>

> Ramesh

>