Guest guest Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 Dear Jagbir and All, When i read the 'non-enlightened' words of Ed Saugstad, i am relieved that i don't have to be organized by such " collective cave mentality " . Ed clearly reveals that he does not understand the deep spiritual truths that Shri Mataji has given to humanity. This is the same 'Ed Saugstad' that has declared Jagbir's children as " possessed " when they have revealed the 'gnostic truth' of the Adi Shakti/Holy Spirit within human beings.... as well as giving crucial evidence to confirm that Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi is indeed the Incarnation of the Adi Shakti! Ed just 'supposes' that he has the spiritual authority to do so, because his 'fellow birds of the same feather'....Allan Wherry and John Noyce presume the very same, and so they are 'in solidarity'. However, what Ed Saugstad fails to realize, is that the word 'solidarity' actually has more to do with the Union Movement than any Spiritual Movement. It is obvious that he is 'DEEPLY CONSCIOUS' of the 'solidarity' that he has with the " Sophisticated Priestly Mafia Union Movement " that now presides over other Sahaja Yogis....(btw. please do not misread it as " Sophia Priestly Mafia Union Movement " ). After all.... the 'solidarity' that Ed talks about, and the 'spiritual unity' that Jagbir talks about, are at OPPOSITE ENDS of the 'spiritual pole'! " Solidarity " refers to organization by man, but " Spiritual Unity " refers to the organism of the Divine. Yes.....Ed Saugstad has indeed inadvertently 'self-revealed' where his true love lies. It lies in 'solidarity' by man. He deceives himself if he thinks he will also get this same 'solidarity' from the Divine. It just does not work that way! Characters like Ed Saugstad are just revealing their True Colours and Time is on our side. As Shri Mataji has said, the Truth will destroy all falsehood At This Time. The dark forces will not win! Jai Shri Mataji! violet In , " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org wrote: > > Dear All, > > i found this interesting article that underscores how advanced SYs > living in our collectives caves are today. BTW, Ed is a good friend > of John Noyce and Alan Wherry and is part of the Inquisytion. > > Ed is really trying to be modest and humble when he admits on the > official SY blog of " solidarity with the Divine " during his awesome > adventure with bandhand and paper-burning. i am sure ritual obsessed > SYs find great inspiration and draw strength from the fact that > deities rushed down from heaven to help a SY like Ed in distress. > (Only senior SY Aunty Shaku's timely warning to stay indoors for 24 > hours during last year's Diwali as the Gates of Hell were left open > by Shri Yama tops the 2005 officially approved news. i later came to > know that Yama complained that he never had a day off, and walked > off the job in protest on Diwali. But please don't quote me on this > because that would piss Aunty Shaku since she was not privy to such > sensitive information. In the event she does find out i can assuage > her hurt feelings by pointing to the fact that 99% of SYs never had > the IQ to question this officially supported statement.) > > But let's get back to Ed's Awesome Adventures. > > Apparently bandhand and paper-burning were just not effective enough > and the deities, all waiting with folded hands to cater for the > whims and fancies of Ed, apparently fell over each other in their > rush to rescue him from distress. (Three of them had to be in turn > rushed back to heaven due to serious injuries sustained in the Ed > rescue tumble.) > > AW and JN can use Ed's record of this heavenly help as evidence that > he should in future also represent the Will of Shri Mataji. Despite > our differences i will endorse my approval. We must recognize and > endorse miracles of all aspiring WCASY applicants. > > ------------------- > > Its Ed Again! > > Ed's Adventure with bandhand and paper-burning... > [From an email to Divinesahajayoga Group] > > > Insight of the day: > > The other morning I had a mild run-in with a government worker who > knocked on our door and asked us to move our car so his crew could > dig up and destroy our only park place on the street. Even after a > couple of decades in Sahaja Yoga, I still tend to over-react to > unimportant, mundane events that come my way. But after this > relatively insignificant incident, I experienced a new level of > solidarity with the Divine. > > Shortly afterwards I sat at the table and drew clockwise circles > around a problem to be burned that I had written on a scrap of > paper. Just like so many times before, I took the names of deities, > devas and angels to help in the process. But this time a whole new > depth of understanding and familiarity opened up between myself and > our invisible, divine Friends. In contrast to the insecure feeling > left in me by the construction worker, I realized how much I can > rely on these People (as Shri Mataji once referred to them :-) > Imagine friends so dedicated that they are always there, ready to > eagerly help you, even when you neglect them. The feeling of love > and confidence that suddenly shone inside me is certainly something > no human being should live without. > > May everyone get their chance to discover and admire our great > Friends who smile on us from the universe within. > > Jai Shri Mother of us all ! > > http://www-personal.umich.edu/~rdivecha/blog2005/2005/08/its-ed- > again.html > > ------------------------ > > With such awesome adventures and heavenly intervention who needs to > come out of SY collective caves? It is about time WCASY get this on > the official website so that seekers rush to join Sahaja Yoga. > > > jagbir > > Note: My forensic analysis > > i suspect that despite deities rushing from heaven the government > workers did dig up Ed's parking lot, repaired the mains underground, > re-asphalted the lot and left him with a brand new parking space > that became the envy of the neighbourhood. (Read Ed's article again > in the thoughtless state.) > > i also have to warn readers that Ed is a long-established SY who > lives in the Vancouver ashram. Do you want to live with such people > in ashrams, ............... or meet them at collectives? > > Perhaps all this will give readers a hint of the state of mind of > those involved in the Inquisytion. And they say i am a possessed > false guru seeking power and attention! How can i compete with > management SYs who can summon deities at the snap of their fingers > or issue timely warnings of the opening hours of Hell? > > But i admit i am possessed ............. possessed to tell the > Truth; possessed to announce Shri Mataji's Divine Message; possessed > to plead SYs of their sacred duty to humanity; possessed to warn SYs > of how WCASY is organizing and editing out the Message of the Last > Judgment and Resurrection delivered by the Adi Shakti; possessed to > expose those WCASY murmuring souls and their sidekicks involved. > > Yes, i am possessed by the official defination of the SY priesthood. > > Last, but not the least, i am possessed by enthusiasm, exuberance, > energy, tenacity, industry, foresight and creativity too. (Sorry, i > forgot to add forensic analysis of text.) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 , " Violet " <violet.tubb wrote: > > Dear Jagbir and All, > > When i read the 'non-enlightened' words of Ed Saugstad, i am > relieved that i don't have to be organized by such " collective > cave mentality " . > > Ed clearly reveals that he does not understand the deep spiritual > truths that Shri Mataji has given to humanity. This is the > same 'Ed Saugstad' that has declared Jagbir's children > as " possessed " when they have revealed the 'gnostic truth' of the > Adi Shakti/Holy Spirit within human beings.... as well as giving > crucial evidence to confirm that Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi is > indeed the Incarnation of the Adi Shakti! > > Ed just 'supposes' that he has the spiritual authority to do so, > because his 'fellow birds of the same feather'....Allan Wherry and > John Noyce presume the very same, and so they are 'in solidarity'. > > " A careful perusal of the New Testament sections will show that although most of them may conveniently be classified as first degree, i.e., purely religious matter, there is also a thin vein of mysticism of the second degree running right through them. For instance, the sentence " The kingdom of heaven is within you, " has absolutely no connection whatsoever with official (Sahaja Yoga) religion and entirely refers to the experiences of (excommunicated) yogis and mystics. The explanation why such a mixture of concepts exists, is twofold. Firstly, the compilation of these records in a single volume did not occur until a few hundred years after Jesus is believed to have passed away. The obscure Council of Nicea (WCASY) found numerous gospels extant when it sat to make the compilation, consisting of a mixed collection of (officially approved) religious books intended for the masses and (rejecting) mystical ones intended for the elect few. The immense number of bishops (and Will-wannabe members) who constituted this (WCASY) council had quite a fight over the nature of Christ, they naturally made their selections and rejections according to their personal temperaments and outlook. Hence the somewhat uneven selection of authentic gospels and unjustifiable rejection of certain apocrypha. Secondly, Jesus (Jagbir and ex-communicated mystics) was in revolt against the stiff orthodoxy of the Jewish priests (and dark forces of the SY priesthood) most of whom were not only ignorant of the higher degree themselves but deliberately persecuted those who were mystically inclined. His indignation expressed itself in the words (to Alan Wherry, John Noyce, Ed Saugstad and council members), " Woe unto you! Ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering ye prevented. " " Paul Brunton, Ph.D., The Hidden Teaching Beyond Yoga, E. P. Dutton & Co., Inc., 1966, p. 79-80. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 Dear All, " Vishwa Nirmala Dharma " means " Universal Pure Religion " . Shri Mataji has created this universal pure religion for the whole world. However, all the 'Willabees' and all the aspiring 'Wannabees' of 'Organization Sahaja Yoga' took the inclusion of the word 'religion' to mean that they finally 'got the green light' to go ahead and organize Shri Mataji's Truth after all! They probably sighed a great sigh of relief that they could now use their talents and capabilities to finally organize it all into a nice package. However, something that they did not expect is happening. They are finding that the Organism of Sahaja Yoga is also happening. This is the Organism that they thought they had organized into a nice package. They did not believe when SM told them that they cannot organize Her Truth. They thought Her Truth was dependant on their organizational skills and capabilities. Shri Mataji has said all along that it will be the Organism (the spiritual love and light within Sahaja Yogis) that will reveal and draw others to Her Truth. For those SY's still within the Organization of SY, let me make it clear that the Organism of Sahaja Yoga encompasses both those souls (SY's) who are within the organization and those souls (SY's) who are without the organization doing Shri Mataji's Work. Let me remind that SM said She has Children who are also without the organization. Let me also remind that She said if the Organization of SY itself did not give Her Divine Message of the Last Judgment and Resurrection to the world..... then it would be given to the world-at-large from without the organization. i was present in person when i heard Her say those words at Sydney Airport. The Organism of Sahaja Yoga has no physical boundaries; any self-respecting Sahaja Yogi knows that. It is the Voice of the Spirit Within that is the True Leader of each Sahaja Yogi. It is the Adi Shakti/Holy Spirit Herself within us.... that will lead us, if we will but follow Her. She is our Individual Mother Within us, something the SY Willabees and Wannabees CAN NEVER BE! Shri Mataji knew what was going to happen with the Organization of Sahaja Yoga. That is why She explained that Sahaja Yoga is an " Organism " . That is why She spoke of Sahaja Yoga being a " living organism " of the Truth Within. That is why She explained how this Organism would meet in collective consciousness.....in " universal collective consciousness " . That is why She clearly explained that people could be on opposite sides of the globe, but they would be in communion with each other through this New Consciousness! In fact, She said that this New Collective Consciousness would spread on Earth, whereby when there are enough Sahaja Yogis (meaning " born of the Spirit persons " ) that the 100th Monkey Effect would take place, and the Whole World would be transformed! Shri Mataji knew though that Councils would `tie everything up' as per the usual human conditioning to do so. Previous Councils (Nicea) had 'tied up' the Truth of Reincarnation. The Gnostic Truth has been `tied up' by WCASY, because those who 'run' WCASY do not like the 'gnostic truth'. (Btw, it was the 'gnostic truth' that Shri Mataji was referring to.... when She said that 'it could not be organized'.....because it is 'impossible to organize'.) That is why i can also say with confidence that WCASY are NOT organizing Her Truth. So, what are they organizing, then? They are organizing anything and everything, but the Truth Itself, which CANNOT be organized. And.... if they STILL THINK that they ARE organizing Shri Mataji's Truth, they ARE ALREADY going against Her Word, and are not only deceiving themselves, but others too. And.... for them to actually say that they " represent the Will of Shri Mataji " .....is 'sheer non-spiritual nonsense' that gives them a chance to have the same power as the pope. And all Sahaja Yogis know what Shri Mataji said about the pope! Violet , " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org wrote: > > , " Violet " > <violet.tubb@> wrote: > > > > Dear Jagbir and All, > > > > When i read the 'non-enlightened' words of Ed Saugstad, i am > > relieved that i don't have to be organized by such " collective > > cave mentality " . > > > > Ed clearly reveals that he does not understand the deep spiritual > > truths that Shri Mataji has given to humanity. This is the > > same 'Ed Saugstad' that has declared Jagbir's children > > as " possessed " when they have revealed the 'gnostic truth' of the > > Adi Shakti/Holy Spirit within human beings.... as well as giving > > crucial evidence to confirm that Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi is > > indeed the Incarnation of the Adi Shakti! > > > > Ed just 'supposes' that he has the spiritual authority to do so, > > because his 'fellow birds of the same feather'....Allan Wherry and > > John Noyce presume the very same, and so they are 'in solidarity'. > > > > > > " A careful perusal of the New Testament sections will show that > although most of them may conveniently be classified as first > degree, i.e., purely religious matter, there is also a thin vein of > mysticism of the second degree running right through them. For > instance, the sentence " The kingdom of heaven is within you, " has > absolutely no connection whatsoever with official (Sahaja Yoga) > religion and entirely refers to the experiences of (excommunicated) > yogis and mystics. > > The explanation why such a mixture of concepts exists, is twofold. > Firstly, the compilation of these records in a single volume did not > occur until a few hundred years after Jesus is believed to have > passed away. The obscure Council of Nicea (WCASY) found numerous > gospels extant when it sat to make the compilation, consisting of a > mixed collection of (officially approved) religious books intended > for the masses and (rejecting) mystical ones intended for the elect > few. The immense number of bishops (and Will-wannabe members) who > constituted this (WCASY) council had quite a fight over the nature > of Christ, they naturally made their selections and rejections > according to their personal temperaments and outlook. Hence the > somewhat uneven selection of authentic gospels and unjustifiable > rejection of certain apocrypha. > > Secondly, Jesus (Jagbir and ex-communicated mystics) was in revolt > against the stiff orthodoxy of the Jewish priests (and dark forces > of the SY priesthood) most of whom were not only ignorant of the > higher degree themselves but deliberately persecuted those who were > mystically inclined. His indignation expressed itself in the words > (to Alan Wherry, John Noyce, Ed Saugstad and council members), " Woe > unto you! Ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering > ye prevented. " " > > Paul Brunton, Ph.D., The Hidden Teaching Beyond Yoga, > E. P. Dutton & Co., Inc., 1966, p. 79-80. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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