Guest guest Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 Dear All, i still get flashes of shock - despite my conscious and determined effort to remain in the thoughtless state - of the satanic nature of the negativity that, after overcoming Lord Jesus' advent 2000 years ago, has again almost overcome the Adi Shakti's advent. Just a few days ago i lapsed and for about an hour i questioned myself as how is it possible for so many thousands of SYs to not lift a finger to prevent WCASY and the SY priesthood from editing out and deleting any mention that the Comforter is on Earth. i can add more questions that tortured my conscience but i do not want those thoughts to return. All i can say is that an Evil Force has entered the WCASY organization today, just as two millenniums ago it had entered the Church after the Saviour left. This Evil Force now wants to silence the advent of the Comforter from within the organization itself. All SYs must ask themselves: " What has WCASY and the SY priesthood done to promote the promised Comforter? " " And Jesus spoke again unto the eleven and said, " Grieve not because I go away for it is best that I should go away. If I do not go away the Comforter will not come to you. These things I speak while with you in the flesh, But when the Holy Breath shall come in power, lo, She will teach you more and more, And bring to you remembrance all the words I have said to you. There are a multitude of things yet to be said; Things that this age cannot receive because it cannot comprehend. But, lo, I say, Before the great day of the Lord shall come, The Holy Breath will make all mysteries known — The mysteries of the soul, of life, of death, of immortality, The oneness of man with every other man, and with his God. Then will the world be led to truth, and man will be truth. " Aquarian Gospel of Jesus the Christ 162:4-9 And all SYs must introspect and ask themselves: " What is the nature of that negativity that now wants to silence the advent of the Comforter promised by Lord Jesus who 'will convince the world of sin, and of truth of what I speak, and of the rightness of the Judgment of the just' " ? " When She has come, the Comforter, She will convince the world of sin, And of truth of what I speak, and of the rightness of the Judgment of the just; And then the prince of carnal life will be cast out. And when the Comforter shall come, I need not intercede for you; For you shall stand approved, and God will know you then as he knows Me. " Aquarian Gospel of Jesus the Christ 162:10-11 And all SYs must introspect and ask themselves: " What has WCASY and the SY priesthood done to promote the Kingdom of God; that the Holy Ghost has come to counsel you, to redeem you, to comfort you? " " He always talked about the future. He said you have to enter into the Kingdom of God; Holy Ghost has to come. He said that, " You have to get somebody who will counsel you; who will redeem you; who will comfort you " and that is the Holy Ghost. " (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi) And all SYs must introspect and ask themselves: " What has WCASY and the SY priesthood done to promote the advent of the Comforter to tell you all these things which Christ could not tell, and to fulfil what He wanted to say " ? " If we follow Him then we cannot be conditioned by anything because He talked of Spirit only. Spirit cannot be conditioned, conditioned by anything. . . . I am here to tell you all these things which Christ could not tell, and to fulfil what He wanted to say. All those things I am saying to you. " (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi) And all SYs must introspect and ask themselves: " What has WCASY and the SY priesthood done to declare to all the nations now that Shri Mataji is the Holy Ghost and She have come for this Special Time, that is, the Resurrection Time. " ? " Declare to all the nations now that I am the Holy Ghost and I have come for this Special Time, that is, the Resurrection Time. " (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi) And all SYs must introspect and ask themselves; " What has WCASY and the SY priesthood done to make me as dishonest, cowardly and hypocritical as they are, to the point that even my self-realization does not bother my conscience anymore " ? So be very careful because you will be judged on Earth itself. Do not empower those who are not only suppressing the Truth but also using you as their instruments. But i assure all of you that over time this negativity will be destroyed along with the organization. It will never rid itself of the permanent mark of the Evil Force that overcame them to suppress the Divine Message of the Comforter. The fact that WCASY and the Inquisytion actively engaged in turning SYs against those wishing to tell the Truth is the final nail in their coffin. They have set in motion events that is the beginning of their own demise. For all times i will stand on this Truth and you will witness its manifestation. Jai Shri Ganapathi, jagbir /message/4229 , " Violet " <violet.tubb wrote: > > Dear Jagbir and All, > > When i read the 'non-enlightened' words of Ed Saugstad, i am > relieved that i don't have to be organized by such " collective > cave mentality " . > > Ed clearly reveals that he does not understand the deep spiritual > truths that Shri Mataji has given to humanity. This is the > same 'Ed Saugstad' that has declared Jagbir's children > as " possessed " when they have revealed the 'gnostic truth' of the > Adi Shakti/Holy Spirit within human beings.... as well as giving > crucial evidence to confirm that Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi is > indeed the Incarnation of the Adi Shakti! > > Ed just 'supposes' that he has the spiritual authority to do so, > because his 'fellow birds of the same feather'....Allan Wherry and > John Noyce presume the very same, and so they are 'in solidarity'. > > " A careful perusal of the New Testament sections will show that although most of them may conveniently be classified as first degree, i.e., purely religious matter, there is also a thin vein of mysticism of the second degree running right through them. For instance, the sentence " The kingdom of heaven is within you, " has absolutely no connection whatsoever with official (Sahaja Yoga) religion and entirely refers to the experiences of (excommunicated) yogis and mystics. The explanation why such a mixture of concepts exists, is twofold. Firstly, the compilation of these records in a single volume did not occur until a few hundred years after Jesus is believed to have passed away. The obscure Council of Nicea (WCASY) found numerous gospels extant when it sat to make the compilation, consisting of a mixed collection of (officially approved) religious books intended for the masses and (rejecting) mystical ones intended for the elect few. The immense number of bishops (and Will-wannabe members) who constituted this (WCASY) council had quite a fight over the nature of Christ, they naturally made their selections and rejections according to their personal temperaments and outlook. Hence the somewhat uneven selection of authentic gospels and unjustifiable rejection of certain apocrypha. Secondly, Jesus (Jagbir and ex-communicated mystics) was in revolt against the stiff orthodoxy of the Jewish priests (and dark forces of the SY priesthood) most of whom were not only ignorant of the higher degree themselves but deliberately persecuted those who were mystically inclined. His indignation expressed itself in the words (to Alan Wherry, John Noyce, Ed Saugstad and council members), " Woe unto you! Ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering ye prevented. " " Paul Brunton, Ph.D., The Hidden Teaching Beyond Yoga, E. P. Dutton & Co., Inc., 1966, p. 79-80. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 Advice of H. H. Mataji on Guru Purnima Day, i.e., the 29th July 1980 at London " First of all, we should not harm anyone who is walking in the path of God, the one who is a realized soul. There may be some mistakes in him. He may need correction. Nobody is perfect as yet. So do not harm. Always try to help. Secondly, anybody who is a real seeker, he may be wrong. He might have gone to wrong Gurus, he might have done wrong things. But have feelings for them because you have been going on wrong path yourself, sometimes. You have been misled before, so have more sympathies. That is why if you have done mistakes in a way it is good because you have more sympathies for such people. Then you are not to harm human beings in anyway, you are not to cause them any bodily harm, any emotional upsetting just for harm's sake; for correction it is alright. The second Statute is that you have to stand on your own legs and know that you are here one with the Truth, the testimony of Truth, that you have seen the Truth. You know what Truth is and you cannot compromise with falsehood. You just cannot. For that you need not harm anyone. You have to just profess it. You have to stand up and say that you have seen the Truth and this is the Truth, and you have to be one with it so that people see that light of Truth in you and they accept it. It is not for telling others that you have to be truthful and this; Is the Truth we have seen and this is what God's Laws are, how they work out. Through vibratory awareness we have been able to see that this is the Truth. But be completely confident about it. But for that first of all you must test yourself completely, otherwise you might be playing into the hands of evil. It happens with many people who start doing Sahaja Yoga in the beginning. So be cautious. Be sure that you are telling the Truth and nothing else and that you have felt the Truth in full ways. Those who have not felt the vibrations, should not talk of Sahaja Yoga. They have no authority. They have to receive vibrations. They have to fully imbibe within them and then they can say, " Yes, we felt " . This is very important task Sahaja Yogis have to do in these modern times-i.e. to tell aloud that they have found the Truth. That part is very weak. In whatever way you like you can announce the Truth. You can write books, you can talk to your friends, relations and everyone and tell them, " this is the Truth now, that you have entered in the kingdom of God. That you have been blessed by the Grace of God. That you are realized souls, that you have felt the Divine power which is prevailing everywhere. That you can give realization to others'. This you have to tell others and know that by your accepting the truth, you are not adding anything to the Truth but you are adoring yourself. One requires courage to enjoy the Truth. Sometimes people may mock at you, laugh at you and persecute also but that should not be any worry to you because your relationship is with the Statutes, with the Grace of God. When that is your connection, you should not worry about other people and what they have to say about it. You have to stand up, adorn yourself with that Truth and talk to people and people will know that you found it. With that authenticity with which you speak people will know that you have found it. The difference between a realized soul and a non-realized soul is basically this, He does not talk of woes and his separation with God. He says " l have FOUND it NOW. THIS IS IT " . Like Christ said, " l AM THE LIGHT, I AM THE PATH " . Or anybody else can say that but you can make out that it is not Truth. With the confidence, with that complete understanding, coming out of your heart people can make out, 'this is absolute Truth' and then all kinds of falsehood must be denounced. Doesnt matter if somebody feels bad, because by telling that you are saving them and not harming them. But must be told in a correct way, not in frivolous way. In a very persuasive way, you must tell them that this is wrong. You must wait for the time when you can tell people, more in confidence. Tell them, " this is wrong, it is wrong, you don't know. We have done the same thing " . This is how you are going to express your principle of Mastery or you can say " GURU TATWA " . You have to be truthful. First and foremost thing is that, YOU SHOULD KNOW THE TRUTH AND STAND THE TESTIMONY AND THAT YOU SHOULD ANNOUNCE IT. " Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi Guru Purnima Day, 29th July 1980 at London. UK ------------------------------ Dear All, i still get flashes of shock - despite my conscious and determined effort to remain in the thoughtless state - of the satanic nature of the negativity that, after overcoming Lord Jesus' advent 2000 years ago, has again almost overcome the Adi Shakti's advent. Just a few days ago i lapsed and for about an hour i questioned myself as how is it possible for so many thousands of SYs to not lift a finger to prevent WCASY and the SY priesthood from editing out and deleting any mention that the Comforter is on Earth. i can add more questions that tortured my conscience but i do not want those thoughts to return. All i can say is that an Evil Force has entered the WCASY organization today, just as two millenniums ago it had entered the Church after the Saviour left. This Evil Force now wants to silence the advent of the Comforter from within the organization itself. All SYs must ask themselves: " What has WCASY and the SY priesthood done to promote the promised Comforter? " " And Jesus spoke again unto the eleven and said, " Grieve not because I go away for it is best that I should go away. If I do not go away the Comforter will not come to you. These things I speak while with you in the flesh, But when the Holy Breath shall come in power, lo, She will teach you more and more, And bring to you remembrance all the words I have said to you. There are a multitude of things yet to be said; Things that this age cannot receive because it cannot comprehend. But, lo, I say, Before the great day of the Lord shall come, The Holy Breath will make all mysteries known — The mysteries of the soul, of life, of death, of immortality, The oneness of man with every other man, and with his God. Then will the world be led to truth, and man will be truth. " Aquarian Gospel of Jesus the Christ 162:4-9 And all SYs must introspect and ask themselves: " What is the nature of that negativity that now wants to silence the advent of the Comforter promised by Lord Jesus who 'will convince the world of sin, and of truth of what I speak, and of the rightness of the Judgment of the just' " ? " When She has come, the Comforter, She will convince the world of sin, And of truth of what I speak, and of the rightness of the Judgment of the just; And then the prince of carnal life will be cast out. And when the Comforter shall come, I need not intercede for you; For you shall stand approved, and God will know you then as he knows Me. " Aquarian Gospel of Jesus the Christ 162:10-11 And all SYs must introspect and ask themselves: " What has WCASY and the SY priesthood done to promote the Kingdom of God; that the Holy Ghost has come to counsel you, to redeem you, to comfort you? " " He always talked about the future. He said you have to enter into the Kingdom of God; Holy Ghost has to come. He said that, " You have to get somebody who will counsel you; who will redeem you; who will comfort you " and that is the Holy Ghost. " (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi) And all SYs must introspect and ask themselves: " What has WCASY and the SY priesthood done to promote the advent of the Comforter to tell you all these things which Christ could not tell, and to fulfil what He wanted to say " ? " If we follow Him then we cannot be conditioned by anything because He talked of Spirit only. Spirit cannot be conditioned, conditioned by anything. . . . I am here to tell you all these things which Christ could not tell, and to fulfil what He wanted to say. All those things I am saying to you. " (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi) And all SYs must introspect and ask themselves: " What has WCASY and the SY priesthood done to declare to all the nations now that Shri Mataji is the Holy Ghost and She have come for this Special Time, that is, the Resurrection Time. " ? " Declare to all the nations now that I am the Holy Ghost and I have come for this Special Time, that is, the Resurrection Time. " (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi) And all SYs must introspect and ask themselves; " What has WCASY and the SY priesthood done to make me as dishonest, cowardly and hypocritical as they are, to the point that even my self-realization does not bother my conscience anymore " ? So be very careful because you will be judged on Earth itself. Do not empower those who are not only suppressing the Truth but also using you as their instruments. But i assure all of you that over time this negativity will be destroyed along with the organization. It will never rid itself of the permanent mark of the Evil Force that overcame them to suppress the Divine Message of the Comforter. The fact that WCASY and the Inquisytion actively engaged in turning SYs against those wishing to tell the Truth is the final nail in their coffin. They have set in motion events that is the beginning of their own demise. For all times i will stand on this Truth and you will witness its manifestation. Jai Shri Ganapathi, jagbir /message/4229 , " Violet " <violet.tubb wrote: > > Dear Jagbir and All, > > When i read the 'non-enlightened' words of Ed Saugstad, i am > relieved that i don't have to be organized by such " collective > cave mentality " . > > Ed clearly reveals that he does not understand the deep spiritual > truths that Shri Mataji has given to humanity. This is the > same 'Ed Saugstad' that has declared Jagbir's children > as " possessed " when they have revealed the 'gnostic truth' of the > Adi Shakti/Holy Spirit within human beings.... as well as giving > crucial evidence to confirm that Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi is > indeed the Incarnation of the Adi Shakti! > > Ed just 'supposes' that he has the spiritual authority to do so, > because his 'fellow birds of the same feather'....Allan Wherry and > John Noyce presume the very same, and so they are 'in solidarity'. > > " A careful perusal of the New Testament sections will show that although most of them may conveniently be classified as first degree, i.e., purely religious matter, there is also a thin vein of mysticism of the second degree running right through them. For instance, the sentence " The kingdom of heaven is within you, " has absolutely no connection whatsoever with official (Sahaja Yoga) religion and entirely refers to the experiences of (excommunicated) yogis and mystics. The explanation why such a mixture of concepts exists, is twofold. Firstly, the compilation of these records in a single volume did not occur until a few hundred years after Jesus is believed to have passed away. The obscure Council of Nicea (WCASY) found numerous gospels extant when it sat to make the compilation, consisting of a mixed collection of (officially approved) religious books intended for the masses and (rejecting) mystical ones intended for the elect few. The immense number of bishops (and Will-wannabe members) who constituted this (WCASY) council had quite a fight over the nature of Christ, they naturally made their selections and rejections according to their personal temperaments and outlook. Hence the somewhat uneven selection of authentic gospels and unjustifiable rejection of certain apocrypha. Secondly, Jesus (Jagbir and ex-communicated mystics) was in revolt against the stiff orthodoxy of the Jewish priests (and dark forces of the SY priesthood) most of whom were not only ignorant of the higher degree themselves but deliberately persecuted those who were mystically inclined. His indignation expressed itself in the words (to Alan Wherry, John Noyce, Ed Saugstad and council members), " Woe unto you! Ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering ye prevented. " " Paul Brunton, Ph.D., The Hidden Teaching Beyond Yoga, E. P. Dutton & Co., Inc., 1966, p. 79-80. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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