Sahaja Yogi wants to go to Belapur Hospital.....

[Guest guest]

Dear Dr. Balwinder and All,

 

I was wondering if Dr. Balwinder could possibly respond to this post

from a Sahaja Yogi who's identity i will keep anonymous. This yogi is

contemplating on going to Belapur Hospital for some treatment, and mentions Dr.

Balwinder as an example of the great help received while there. This SY also

does not feel the vibrations, although other yogis say that the Cool Breeze of

the Holy Spirit is flowing.

 

Could you please give this yogi advice based on your experience?

 

Thank you.

 

warmest regards,

violet

 

 

This SY writes: -

 

" I personally can't feel the cool breeze out of my head, or when I do

I don't register it as strong, but every time someone works on my they

always tell me my vibrations are cool (as it was a very cooling

experience) or that it was coming out of the top of my head very

strongly, very cold, and even around the head itself not just the top.

What exactly does that mean, especially if I don't feel that at all,

or to that degree?

 

Second, I feel the urge to go to Belapur (the hospital) sometime this

year and work some things out and just to go and see what its all

about. Other people have been there (like Dr Balwinder) and a yogi

from the collective out here, and said they were completely changed

when there, but when they came back to Canada, they soon lost that

" state " and returned to a state close to what they were when they

left. I wanted to know what the difference between Dr Balwinder and

the yogi I am referring to? I mean it seems like he has his vibrations

very strongly now (Jagbir stated anyways) and he has maintained that

stated experienced at the SY hospital, but why do others, particularly

in my collective or similar person, just return to the old state? To

me it seems like if you go to the SY Hospital to work out some really

serious issues (like going to a doctor for antibiotics or something to

treat a chronic condition) once you have fixed it at the hospital,

then when you return to your own country, that that sickness should

not reappear like you never took any medicine at all, of course

providing you don't take up your old habits again. I mean what is the

point of going to a SY hospital and working it out and having some

real amazing experiences of the kundalini nature, if you are only to

return home to the same state you went there to treat in the first

place. Is there any way to avoid this happening? I want to go, but I

want to come back that changed person and remain that way /grow

further, not revert back? SO now you can see how this part of the

question ties in with the statement about Dr Balwinder, as he is the

perfect example of what I would like to achieve by such a trip. Any

help would be great. "

[Guest guest]

Dear Violet and SY brother/sister concerned,

 

You are exactly in the same boat that I was in just 4 years ago or 13

yrs ago for that matter. What it means is that your chakras overall

are in good balance and your kundalini is flowing ………………… yeah, yeah I

have heard that umpteen times, tell me something more – I am unable to

tell you anything more convincing except that you will realize that

this is the essence of it when you are finally able to feel your own

vibrations and then check vibrations – and you WILL DEFINITELY be able

to do so.

 

It is difficult to accept what I have just said for many reasons

a) there are newcomers who can feel them but you do not.Why not?

b) there are SYogi/nis who do not come anywhere near the description

of a SYogi according to Shree Mataji's definition but they are feeling

the vibrations (or are they?). I fit Shree Mataji's description of a

SY but feel nothing…………………… why so?

 

I do not know why the concerned SYogi/ni is going to Belapur but I

went there because after 9 years and after having tried all sorts of

treatments and being worked upon by the leader(in the early years I

used to think what a lot of SYs nowadays think – that the leader must

be having some extra qualities spiritually).In fact it was Jagbir who

encouraged me to go to Belapur.

 

I thouroughly enjoyed my stay at Belapur and the staff led by Dr

Madhur were just too wonderful and such a dedicated lot. I would not

dwell much on my stay there since it has already been described in two

posts

shriadishakti/message/1484

 

/message/1655

 

My vibrations have been there with me since then and have grown

stronger since the past 9 months – even at my office at the hospital I

can have good vibrations.

 

The only thing that I have been doing is meditate regularly without

fail daily twice as far as possible. I was told to footsoak but I

stopped within a few months of my return and have not done so for the

past 3 years. I know a lot of SYs are going to frown at this but it

was just a process where by the time it was apparent that I had not

footsoaked for a long long time it was difficult to go back to it

since the vibrations were flowing just as well. The other " habit " that

I picked up unknowingly is having my thoughts/attention always on

Shree Mataji which IMHO is much more powerful and I see Her playing a

role and helping me all the time.

 

I feel that meditation without fail twice daily is a must and very

important. Of course there are times when you are late for work or

come back late and unable to meditate – you need to find the time for

it and time is always there if you sincerely look for it. I used to

and still go to collective very regularly but there are many a time

when the vibrations at home/work are stronger – I mention this off

tangent remark because whenever I used to miss collectives I used to

feel the guilt of the conditioned mind for missing collectives –

Mother just reassures you that missing the collective at times is not

a " crime " .

 

I am working in one of the most " catch prone " job that anyone can come

across – talking with and examining sick patients and their aliments

range from the normal throat infections to cancer (which you handle in

your hands while doing surgery) – I love the job and am thankful that

I can ignore the catches and leave it to the Mother Kunadalini to take

care of them ALL THE TIME.

 

Why some yogis lapse back after being successfully treated spiritually

is a questions best answered by the person treating the SYogi.

Generally speaking it is the same thing that Shree Mataji has said –

the seed has been planted and we must take care of it so that it grows

into a giant tree and to me personally the key to this is complete

dedication and faith in Shree Mataji, meditating on Her twice daily

and living as a SYogi/ni by Her definition. The thoughts on Her will

automatically grow if you can have these three qualities.

 

The Belapur trip will just restart or kickstart what Shree Mataji has

blessed us with and they(staff at Belapur) are just Her instruments

which they will also always remind you when you thank them from the

depths of your heart. You have to be the embodiment of what Shree

Mataji wants a Sahaja Yogi/ni to be and She has described the

qualities of what a true SY is – even meditating and all the

treatments in my opinion will not help us if we do things which are

not in lines with Shree Matji's teachings.

 

The other big advantage that I had was that I believed what Jagbir's

children had experienced and thus has tremendous faith in Shree Mataji

despite being " vibration less " for 9 years – this really stood me in

good stead. In fact it showed me that a person can have more faith and

respect for Her than a lot of SYs who can feel the vibrations – this

fact was verified by the SYs that left then (during the 9 year

period)and are still leaving SY after experiencing the cool breeze.

 

Go to Belapur with everything sorted out at home/workplace and all

responsibilities taken care of for a duration of at least 2 weeks –

basically be prepared for a two week stay and not have a thought for

the outside world.

Secondly go with the full faith that Shree Mataji knows what is best

for you (just like I felt She had Her reasons for me to be unable to

feel vibrations for 9 years) – you may get vibrations blasting away

the moment you land there or you may only get a whiff at the tail

end(like myself) or may return without what you wanted – basically

meaning that you should go to Belapur expecting nothing, enjoy the

journey because you will definitely reach the destination if you have

full confidence in the Adishakti.

 

Jai Shree Mataji

 

Balwinder

 

, " Violet "

<violet.tubb wrote:

>

> Dear Dr. Balwinder and All,

>

> I was wondering if Dr. Balwinder could possibly respond to this post

> from a Sahaja Yogi who's identity i will keep anonymous. This yogi

is contemplating on going to Belapur Hospital for some treatment, and

mentions Dr. Balwinder as an example of the great help received while

there. This SY also does not feel the vibrations, although other yogis

say that the Cool Breeze of the Holy Spirit is flowing.

>

> Could you please give this yogi advice based on your experience?

>

> Thank you.

>

> warmest regards,

> violet

>

>

> This SY writes: -

>

> " I personally can't feel the cool breeze out of my head, or when I do

> I don't register it as strong, but every time someone works on my they

> always tell me my vibrations are cool (as it was a very cooling

> experience) or that it was coming out of the top of my head very

> strongly, very cold, and even around the head itself not just the top.

> What exactly does that mean, especially if I don't feel that at all,

> or to that degree?

>

> Second, I feel the urge to go to Belapur (the hospital) sometime this

> year and work some things out and just to go and see what its all

> about. Other people have been there (like Dr Balwinder) and a yogi

> from the collective out here, and said they were completely changed

> when there, but when they came back to Canada, they soon lost that

> " state " and returned to a state close to what they were when they

> left. I wanted to know what the difference between Dr Balwinder and

> the yogi I am referring to? I mean it seems like he has his vibrations

> very strongly now (Jagbir stated anyways) and he has maintained that

> stated experienced at the SY hospital, but why do others, particularly

> in my collective or similar person, just return to the old state? To

> me it seems like if you go to the SY Hospital to work out some really

> serious issues (like going to a doctor for antibiotics or something to

> treat a chronic condition) once you have fixed it at the hospital,

> then when you return to your own country, that that sickness should

> not reappear like you never took any medicine at all, of course

> providing you don't take up your old habits again. I mean what is the

> point of going to a SY hospital and working it out and having some

> real amazing experiences of the kundalini nature, if you are only to

> return home to the same state you went there to treat in the first

> place. Is there any way to avoid this happening? I want to go, but I

> want to come back that changed person and remain that way /grow

> further, not revert back? SO now you can see how this part of the

> question ties in with the statement about Dr Balwinder, as he is the

> perfect example of what I would like to achieve by such a trip. Any

> help would be great. "

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I feel the urge to go to Belapur (the hospital) sometime this

> year and work some things out and just to go and see what its all

> about. Other people have been there (like Dr Balwinder) and a yogi

> from the collective out here, and said they were completely

> changed when there, but when they came back to Canada, they soon

> lost that " state " and returned to a state close to what they were

> when they left. I wanted to know what the difference between Dr

> Balwinder and the yogi I am referring to? I mean it seems like he

> has his vibrations very strongly now (Jagbir stated anyways) and

> he has maintained that stated experienced at the SY hospital, but

> why do others, particularly in my collective or similar person,

> just return to the old state? To me it seems like if you go to the

> SY Hospital to work out some really serious issues (like going to

> a doctor for antibiotics or something to treat a chronic

> condition) once you have fixed it at the hospital, then when you

> return to your own country, that that sickness should not reappear

> like you never took any medicine at all, of course providing you

> don't take up your old habits again. I mean what is the point of

> going to a SY hospital and working it out and having some real

> amazing experiences of the kundalini nature, if you are only to

> return home to the same state you went there to treat in the first

> place. Is there any way to avoid this happening? I want to go, but

> I want to come back that changed person and remain that way /grow

> further, not revert back?

>

 

Dear brothetr/sister,

 

In the first place there must be a very good reason to go to

Belapur. Secondly going to Belapur should be the last resort after

all means have failed.

 

i have always stated that everything should be left to the Mother

Kundalini. The Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion is a confusing

mixture of treatments that rely on external attention. By

" confusing " i mean that SYs have added their own spices and other

ingredients to add to the list of the few original recipes. Since they have such

impressive contributions from venerated and obviously senior priests their sick

flock are now taught to place more faith in vegetables than the Kundalini.

(Remember how the Yuvahsakti was excitedly looking for any shred of evidence to

link Shri Mataji to the collective research on extremely left-sided cats

involving many SYs. Treatments and ritual innovations fall under the same

research department. Remember the immensely popular candle havan that was the

rave for years, an utter insult to a sacred ceremony that even common sense

failed to prevail - obviously many felt cool vibrations for years till the

practise was thoroughly condemned.) That is why our collectives clinics are

always overcrowded with the sick and infected. There are 1001 symptoms and

spiritual diseases recognized by the Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion.

 

i used to get sick [catches] just watching them holding ice-packs

all the time. The diseased atmosphere was all the more infectious

since senior SYs insisted that no one will ever be catch-free. In

other words we had to believe we are sick, imaginary or otherwise.

Since i was surrounded by the sick obviously i was sucking their

sickness and getting sick myself. So we were all making each other

sick. And we had UPIs and all sorts of negativity to dodge everyday,

from the homeless drunk, neighbour's cat, Baywatch poster or Michael

Jackson's Thriller.

 

What i am actually saying is that SY collectives make you sick

psychologically. You become conditioned and believe that catches are

the norm ......... and cleansing rituals too. Balwinder became

'catch-free' when he surrendered everything to the Mother Kundalini

and, just as importantly, stopped all cleansing rituals. He also had

imbibed knowledge that strenghtened his faith in the Adi Shakti, a

faith that has little to do with the Sahaja Yoga Subtle System

Religion. Thus when he returned to the collective after Belapur he

continued progressing, instead of the usual regress of post-Belapur

SYs. To put it more bluntly, he stopped following the rituals of the

Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion. He had become his own master and

no more a disciple of their priests.

 

So going to Belapur will be a waste if you are going to revert back

to the worship of the sacred cows of the Sahaja Yoga Subtle System

Religion. You need not go at all if you can leave everything to the

Mother Kundalini, have faith in Shri Mataji, imbibe Her Divine

Message, learn how to thoughtless, and NEVER indulge in any more

rituals no matter how much the SYs priesthood insist you must. i

know for a fact that many SYs who follow the Sahaja Yoga Subtle

System Religion are always treating their catches, whether in public

or private. Only those who have full faith/knowledge of/surrender to

the Mother Kundalini/Shri Mataji are truly free of catches and can

feel the Cool Breeze which, in my case, is 24/7. i know if i go back

to the treatments tomorrow i will start getting sick more often, and

need more cleansing rituals in turn. So will Balwinder.

 

So you actually do not need to go to Belapur right now. Try the

above before making a firm decision. i believe the Sahaja Yoga Subtle System

Religion is the main cause of your present predicament.

 

jagbir