Guest guest Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 Dear Rose and All, As Sahaja Yogis we are not taught to turn a blind eye to what is going on around us. Instead we are to use our Spiritual Powers to change it. i have joined your Avian Forum, just to keep myself 'further informed'. i have noticed that regular media, politics, etc. just does not 'cut it' anymore. There doesn't seem to be any real substance to the news anymore. It does not seem really 'real' anymore, like we REALLY GET THE REAL NEWS anymore. i think we are actually being kept in the dark, and this is not good! This makes me think that we all need to be more involved in changing the Kali Yuga (Dark Ages) to the Satya Yuga (Golden Age)in a practical way, such as Sahaja Yogis becoming politicians and changing the system from within, just like Shri Mataji asked Sahaja Yogis to do. (However, unfortunately, now most SY's are in their collective caves gazing at their navels/(chakras) and just can't get over all their psychosomatic blocks.) i also remember that Shri Mataji has stated that there are 'terrible' things going on in this world to make 'one shudder'. She never talked about the details, because that was not Her Role/Her Job. However, She did say that there were plenty of others outside of the organization who were Her Children who were also doing Her work and that there were also plenty of sources/people who would expose this corruption too. It would come from many sources, She said. Perhaps the Avian Forum and other forums are part and parcel of doing the job of 'exposing' what is not right in the world today. Perhaps, that is the only way we can move forward into a Golden Age. Perhaps we need to talk and share and understand and realize that each individual has the spiritual power, if they so choose, to change the world for the better! We can all use our God-given discretion and 'sift' what is truth and what is 'not-truth', however we just cannot close our eyes to happenings in the world today, can we? i know that Shri Mataji asked Sahaja Yogis to become politicians and change the system from within. She said we should use our Powers of Enlightenment to change the world. i know She did not mean it only as giving the Divine Message only. She wanted us to be the literal 'salt of the earth' and bring Her Light and Truth into every facet of human life, even the political world, the economic world; everywhere and anywhere that our Spirit informs us. All we need to take with us is the Absolute Truth, which will expose all lesser and relative truths.What a Divine Task that is that Shri Mataji has given us! How many times has She said that we are Her Warriors for the Truth; the Truth that will expose all Untruth! Here is a politician who is seemingly just doing that. i am not saying what he says is 'right' or 'wrong' but if what he says IS RIGHT, this might just explain why the 'regular news' just does not seem to have any substance anymore. http://health.Avian2005/message/5875 violet , " rose32217 " <rose32217@ ....> wrote: > > > Religious conditioning.. if you folks haven't seen this video, you're > missing a lot (a picture might be worth a thousand words, here...) > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdTldR17Zms > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdTldR17Zms> It impressed me enough > that I started checking..google led me to > > http://www.adishakti.org/forum/ dangers_of_fundamentalism_i've_been_talki\ > ng_to_jesus_all_my_life_2-15-2005.htm > <http://www.adishakti.org/forum/ dangers_of_fundamentalism_i've_been_talk\ > ing_to_jesus_all_my_life_2-15-2005.htm> and > > > > > /message/3585 > </message/3585> > http://www.adishakti.org/forum/archives.htm > <http://www.adishakti.org/forum/archives.htm> > http://www.adishakti.org/ <http://www.adishakti.org/index.htm> > > > > also...you may want to ck out > http://health.Avian2005/ > <http://health.Avian2005/> > > > > where you would be more than welcome.. > > Join us; and even if you don't, beware the needle, " Mudville Rose " > > , " jagbir singh " > <adishakti_org@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > shriadishakti , " jagbir singh " > > adishakti_org wrote: > > > > > > Dear All. > > > > > > i have received an email from Violet regarding the above post > > > which i believe will help others understand religious conditioning > > > better. i am going to give her email to a friend of mine whose > > > wife, a lovely lady who had earlier accepted all faiths, suddenly > > > became against all non-Christian traditions after she joined a > > > fundamentalist Pentecostical church. Over time i have seen her > > > becoming even more dogmatic in her views about others, even > > > Christian groups like Catholics, Mormons, Jehovah's Witness, > > > Methodists etc. As far as she is concerned only her church has the > > > salvation truth, to the exclusion of all others. > > > > > > Now she has intense dislike for even the Sikh faith of her > > > husband. This is a mixed race/religious marraige that i attended. > > > That is why it troubles me to find her so brainwashed by religious > > > fanatics in rejecting even the traditions of her own husband. > > > > > > This is indeed sad but the same pattern is repeated the world over > > > as thousands of religious sects lay claim to the same 'chosen > > > people' doctrine. It is only when one meets Shri Mataji does this > > > hatred and dislike for other religions, scriptures and prophets > > > end. Her Divine Message to humanity gives us the vision and > > > enlightenment to overcome all past conditionings. We come to know > > > the Truth that sets us free. It is such a blessing to embrace all > > > the messengers of God. > > > > > > Jai Shri Mataji, > > > > > > > > > jagbir > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > i have another great email from Violet who, as a former Christian > > fundamentalist, knows this subject better. Her potrayal of the > > Pentecostal Churches is exactly what my friend's wife is undergoing. > > > > The last time i met her i initially refrained from reacting as it > > was the birthday party of her daughter. But she was not interested > > in the guests as she sat on the sofa watching a Pentecostal Church > > doomsday video with another like-minded fanatic. > > > > For more than an hour i listened silently, together with a few > > guests, to her comments - she is one with Jesus, the Holy Spirit is > > guiding her daily, only in her church is salvation possible, all non- > > Christian religions are false etc. > > > > In the end i had to tell her that if she did not stop going to the > > Pentecostal Church she would become even more fanatical. After some > > exchanges she told me that she is right because " Jesus talks to me " . > > > > That was indeed a frightening statment that made me realize how the > > Pentecostal Churches brainwash their followers into inducing them to > > believe that Jesus talks to them. i mean there is nothing wrong with > > saying the Jesus guides me. But when Christian fundamentalists begin > > believe Jesus and the Holy Spirit talks to them, then that is the > > point of no return. This is because every Sunday when they return to > > their churches the same believe is enforced and induced again and > > again. Thus when Jesus and the Holy Spirit is already talking to > > them what knowledge have mere humans like me to give. > > > > When the party finished the husband stood at the door to see each > > guest off. His wife did not have that presence of mind. She was busy > > watching another fundamentalist Christian channel, oblivious to > > those who had come to celebrate her daughter's birthday. The > > fundamentalism of the Pentecostal Churches had consumed her. > > > > jagbir > > > > > > -------------------- > > > > The Dangers of Fundamentalism > > > > A quote by Sri Mataji on the 19th Sahasrara Day is: - > > > > " How to now turn human beings away from these superficial > > religions, these perverted paths of destruction? How to tell them > > about all these established organizations? For ages they have been > > ruling, making money, making power. " > > > > What SM states is the truth but many people do not realize the snare > > that they are in when they are taken in by Fundamentalism. Sri > > Mataji has also stated that all Fundamentalists are actually missing > > the " fundamentals " . This is also very true. Take for example, > > the very fundamental doctrine of " reincarnation " that was > > removed from Christian teachings at the Council of Nicea. The reason > > this teaching was removed was because it allowed the priests and > > leaders to have more power over the people. Why if a person has > > several lives, a church cannot damn them to eternal hellfire and > > destruction, can they? And then they do not have the same power over > > the person, do they? > > > > A very present concern now is that the Pentecostal Churches > > are " taking in " a lot of people with their so-called > > " Baptism of the Holy Spirit " . I have been there; done that > > when I was in my late teens. I know it feels good and invigorating > > for a while but it is not the real gift of the Holy Spirit. I felt > > drunk with power and danced automatically with all the others. > > Looking back I see it as a mass hysteria in which everyone is in a > > state of mind that whatever the minister says, is accepted as > > " gospel truth " . This mass hypnosis is a very clever > > simulation of what people feel was experienced on the Day of > > Pentecost. It is like a " siddhi " or " power " but it is > > not the real > > thing. > > > > How do I know it is a fake? I received my real Baptism of the Holy > > Spirit in 1993 when my Kundalini energy within, which is the Holy > > Spirit within, rose, and I felt it as a Cool Breeze of the Holy > > Ghost, same as on the Day of Pentecost! And it came from within not > > from some minister putting his hand on my head. Remember, on the Day > > of Pentecost, there was a wind blowing, a Cool Wind. Well, if you > > are not feeling this as " cool " , you can know that it is not > > the real Baptism of the Holy Spirit. > > > > If you are in the snare of Pentecostalism and are aware that > > everything is not quite right, that instead of becoming your own > > guru, master, or teacher, you hang on every word of the minister, > > know that you are on the wrong path! Further, if he tells you that > > this is the only right way and that you are not to question anything > > but just accept it, know that you are on the wrong path! Further, if > > you start to think that all other religions are completely wrong, > > you are on the wrong path! > > > > The fact is that all the incarnations and prophets of every religion > > actually agree with each other in their teachings. Study the > > essential truths of them all and strip away the man-made doctrines > > of the church and Voila! They all agree! Please be your own guru and > > give yourself the opportunity to check this truth out for yourself, > > for your minister will not give you that liberty for fear of losing > > you. > > > > Sri Mataji says the essence of the teachings of all the Incarnations > > and Prophets of the different religions are like the flowers on the > > one tree. However, if you pick one of the flowers and claim it as > > your own, that flower will die because it has left its sources. All > > these " flowers " are from the One Source, God Almighty. > > > > I would like you to know that there is a way out of > > " fundamentalism " of any kind and that you can get the real > > Baptism of the Holy Spirit from Sri Mataji Nirmala Devi and Sahaja > > Yoga. Sri Mataji Nirmala Devi is also initiating the Last Judgment > > and Resurrection that Jesus said would happen. You must take heed > > now for we are living in important times of individual decision as > > to what is the real Truth of all the religions. Sri Mataji also > > gives you absolute freedom to question everything and test > > everything to see if it is true. She does not snare you but gives > > you the absolute freedom; so do try Sahaja Yoga if you are looking > > for the Truth. > > > > > > Violet > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 Dear All, There are dramatic happenings around the globe today. It is a war between the Forces of Light and the Forces of Darkness. The Forces of Light are guaranteed to win, according to Shri Mataji, THIS TIME AROUND, however, we each need to put our hand to what we can each do to change the world for the better. i do not see taking away people's liberties as the way forward. We all need to speak up and make our voices count where we can, each in his or her own sphere of influence. We need to be aware to what is really happening out there, and which is hidden from us. Just like WCASY, there are many organizations that want to dominate people. This cannot be the way forward if we are going to have a new Golden Age, a Satya Yuga, which also means a New Age of Truth. violet , " Violet " <violet.tubb@. ...> wrote: > > Dear Rose and All, > > As Sahaja Yogis we are not taught to turn a blind eye to what is going on around us. Instead we are to use our Spiritual Powers to change it. i have joined your Avian Forum, just to keep myself 'further informed'. i have noticed that regular media, politics, etc. just does not 'cut it' anymore. There doesn't seem to be any real substance to the news anymore. It does not seem really 'real' anymore, like we REALLY GET THE REAL NEWS anymore. i think we are actually being kept in the dark, and this is not good! > > This makes me think that we all need to be more involved in changing the Kali Yuga (Dark Ages) to the Satya Yuga (Golden Age)in a practical way, such as Sahaja Yogis becoming politicians and changing the system from within, just like Shri Mataji asked Sahaja Yogis to do. (However, unfortunately, now most SY's are in their collective caves gazing at their navels/(chakras) and just can't get over all their psychosomatic blocks.) > > i also remember that Shri Mataji has stated that there are 'terrible' things going on in this world to make 'one shudder'. She never talked about the details, because that was not Her Role/Her Job. However, She did say that there were plenty of others outside of the organization who were Her Children who were also doing Her work and that there were also plenty of sources/people who would expose this corruption too. It would come from many sources, She said. > > Perhaps the Avian Forum and other forums are part and parcel of doing the job of 'exposing' what is not right in the world today. Perhaps, that is the only way we can move forward into a Golden Age. Perhaps we need to talk and share and understand and realize that each individual has the spiritual power, if they so choose, to change the world for the better! > > We can all use our God-given discretion and 'sift' what is truth and what is 'not-truth', however we just cannot close our eyes to happenings in the world today, can we? > > i know that Shri Mataji asked Sahaja Yogis to become politicians and change the system from within. She said we should use our Powers of Enlightenment to change the world. i know She did not mean it only as giving the Divine Message only. She wanted us to be the literal 'salt of the earth' and bring Her Light and Truth into every facet of human life, even the political world, the economic world; everywhere and anywhere that our Spirit informs us. All we need to take with us is the Absolute Truth, which will expose all lesser and relative truths. What a Divine Task that is that Shri Mataji has given us! How many times has She said that we are Her Warriors for the Truth; the Truth that will expose all Untruth! > > Here is a politician who is seemingly just doing that. i am not saying what he says is 'right' or 'wrong' but if what he says IS RIGHT, this might just explain why the 'regular news' just does not seem to have any substance anymore. > > http://health.Avian2005/message/5875 > > violet > > > , " rose32217 " <rose32217@ > ...> wrote: > > > > > > Religious conditioning.. if you folks haven't seen this video, > you're > > missing a lot (a picture might be worth a thousand words, here...) > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdTldR17Zms > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdTldR17Zms> It impressed me > enough > > that I started checking..google led me to > > > > http://www.adishakti.org/forum/ > dangers_of_fundamentalism_i've_been_talki\ > > ng_to_jesus_all_my_life_2-15-2005.htm > > <http://www.adishakti.org/forum/ > dangers_of_fundamentalism_i've_been_talk\ > > ing_to_jesus_all_my_life_2-15-2005.htm> and > > > > > > > > > > /message/3585 > > </message/3585> > > http://www.adishakti.org/forum/archives.htm > > <http://www.adishakti.org/forum/archives.htm> > > http://www.adishakti.org/ <http://www.adishakti.org/index.htm> > > > > > > > > also...you may want to ck out > > http://health.Avian2005/ > > <http://health.Avian2005/> > > > > > > > > where you would be more than welcome.. > > > > Join us; and even if you don't, beware the needle, " Mudville Rose " > > > > , " jagbir singh " > > <adishakti_org@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shriadishakti , " jagbir singh " > > > adishakti_org wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear All. > > > > > > > > i have received an email from Violet regarding the above post > > > > which i believe will help others understand religious > conditioning > > > > better. i am going to give her email to a friend of mine whose > > > > wife, a lovely lady who had earlier accepted all faiths, > suddenly > > > > became against all non-Christian traditions after she joined a > > > > fundamentalist Pentecostical church. Over time i have seen her > > > > becoming even more dogmatic in her views about others, even > > > > Christian groups like Catholics, Mormons, Jehovah's Witness, > > > > Methodists etc. As far as she is concerned only her church has > the > > > > salvation truth, to the exclusion of all others. > > > > > > > > Now she has intense dislike for even the Sikh faith of her > > > > husband. This is a mixed race/religious marraige that i > attended. > > > > That is why it troubles me to find her so brainwashed by > religious > > > > fanatics in rejecting even the traditions of her own husband. > > > > > > > > This is indeed sad but the same pattern is repeated the world > over > > > > as thousands of religious sects lay claim to the same 'chosen > > > > people' doctrine. It is only when one meets Shri Mataji does > this > > > > hatred and dislike for other religions, scriptures and prophets > > > > end. Her Divine Message to humanity gives us the vision and > > > > enlightenment to overcome all past conditionings. We come to > know > > > > the Truth that sets us free. It is such a blessing to embrace > all > > > > the messengers of God. > > > > > > > > Jai Shri Mataji, > > > > > > > > > > > > jagbir > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > i have another great email from Violet who, as a former Christian > > > fundamentalist, knows this subject better. Her potrayal of the > > > Pentecostal Churches is exactly what my friend's wife is > undergoing. > > > > > > The last time i met her i initially refrained from reacting as it > > > was the birthday party of her daughter. But she was not interested > > > in the guests as she sat on the sofa watching a Pentecostal Church > > > doomsday video with another like-minded fanatic. > > > > > > For more than an hour i listened silently, together with a few > > > guests, to her comments - she is one with Jesus, the Holy Spirit > is > > > guiding her daily, only in her church is salvation possible, all > non- > > > Christian religions are false etc. > > > > > > In the end i had to tell her that if she did not stop going to the > > > Pentecostal Church she would become even more fanatical. After > some > > > exchanges she told me that she is right because " Jesus talks to > me " . > > > > > > That was indeed a frightening statment that made me realize how > the > > > Pentecostal Churches brainwash their followers into inducing them > to > > > believe that Jesus talks to them. i mean there is nothing wrong > with > > > saying the Jesus guides me. But when Christian fundamentalists > begin > > > believe Jesus and the Holy Spirit talks to them, then that is the > > > point of no return. This is because every Sunday when they return > to > > > their churches the same believe is enforced and induced again and > > > again. Thus when Jesus and the Holy Spirit is already talking to > > > them what knowledge have mere humans like me to give. > > > > > > When the party finished the husband stood at the door to see each > > > guest off. His wife did not have that presence of mind. She was > busy > > > watching another fundamentalist Christian channel, oblivious to > > > those who had come to celebrate her daughter's birthday. The > > > fundamentalism of the Pentecostal Churches had consumed her. > > > > > > jagbir > > > > > > > > > -------------------- > > > > > > The Dangers of Fundamentalism > > > > > > A quote by Sri Mataji on the 19th Sahasrara Day is: - > > > > > > " How to now turn human beings away from these superficial > > > religions, these perverted paths of destruction? How to tell them > > > about all these established organizations? For ages they have been > > > ruling, making money, making power. " > > > > > > What SM states is the truth but many people do not realize the > snare > > > that they are in when they are taken in by Fundamentalism. Sri > > > Mataji has also stated that all Fundamentalists are actually > missing > > > the " fundamentals " . This is also very true. Take for example, > > > the very fundamental doctrine of " reincarnation " that was > > > removed from Christian teachings at the Council of Nicea. The > reason > > > this teaching was removed was because it allowed the priests and > > > leaders to have more power over the people. Why if a person has > > > several lives, a church cannot damn them to eternal hellfire and > > > destruction, can they? And then they do not have the same power > over > > > the person, do they? > > > > > > A very present concern now is that the Pentecostal Churches > > > are " taking in " a lot of people with their so-called > > > " Baptism of the Holy Spirit " . I have been there; done that > > > when I was in my late teens. I know it feels good and invigorating > > > for a while but it is not the real gift of the Holy Spirit. I felt > > > drunk with power and danced automatically with all the others. > > > Looking back I see it as a mass hysteria in which everyone is in a > > > state of mind that whatever the minister says, is accepted as > > > " gospel truth " . This mass hypnosis is a very clever > > > simulation of what people feel was experienced on the Day of > > > Pentecost. It is like a " siddhi " or " power " but it is > > > not the real > > > thing. > > > > > > How do I know it is a fake? I received my real Baptism of the Holy > > > Spirit in 1993 when my Kundalini energy within, which is the Holy > > > Spirit within, rose, and I felt it as a Cool Breeze of the Holy > > > Ghost, same as on the Day of Pentecost! And it came from within > not > > > from some minister putting his hand on my head. Remember, on the > Day > > > of Pentecost, there was a wind blowing, a Cool Wind. Well, if you > > > are not feeling this as " cool " , you can know that it is not > > > the real Baptism of the Holy Spirit. > > > > > > If you are in the snare of Pentecostalism and are aware that > > > everything is not quite right, that instead of becoming your own > > > guru, master, or teacher, you hang on every word of the minister, > > > know that you are on the wrong path! Further, if he tells you that > > > this is the only right way and that you are not to question > anything > > > but just accept it, know that you are on the wrong path! Further, > if > > > you start to think that all other religions are completely wrong, > > > you are on the wrong path! > > > > > > The fact is that all the incarnations and prophets of every > religion > > > actually agree with each other in their teachings. Study the > > > essential truths of them all and strip away the man-made doctrines > > > of the church and Voila! They all agree! Please be your own guru > and > > > give yourself the opportunity to check this truth out for > yourself, > > > for your minister will not give you that liberty for fear of > losing > > > you. > > > > > > Sri Mataji says the essence of the teachings of all the > Incarnations > > > and Prophets of the different religions are like the flowers on > the > > > one tree. However, if you pick one of the flowers and claim it as > > > your own, that flower will die because it has left its sources. > All > > > these " flowers " are from the One Source, God Almighty. > > > > > > I would like you to know that there is a way out of > > > " fundamentalism " of any kind and that you can get the real > > > Baptism of the Holy Spirit from Sri Mataji Nirmala Devi and Sahaja > > > Yoga. Sri Mataji Nirmala Devi is also initiating the Last Judgment > > > and Resurrection that Jesus said would happen. You must take heed > > > now for we are living in important times of individual decision as > > > to what is the real Truth of all the religions. Sri Mataji also > > > gives you absolute freedom to question everything and test > > > everything to see if it is true. She does not snare you but gives > > > you the absolute freedom; so do try Sahaja Yoga if you are looking > > > for the Truth. > > > > > > > > > Violet > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 Dear All, It might surprise readers, but Shri Mataji said those who are able, should run as Independents and get into government, and change things. On the subject of politics, i would like to draw attention to a book that Sir C.P. Srivastava wrote about the political life of Prime Minister Lal Bahadur Shastri, who rose to political eminence on the strength of moral principle. You see, as Sahaja Yogis (born of the Spirit persons) we have the highest Light and Life to give to others and can be the 'servants' of others, 'servants of the people' who help the people. Lal Bahadur Shastri was a great example for us to follow: - " The life of Lal Bahadur Shastri (1904-66), India's second prime minister and successor to Jawaharlal Nehru, is the absorbing saga of a little man who, while suffering the rigours of poverty in early life, rose to political eminence on the strength of moral principle. When Shastri died, he left no house, no land, no money. But he did leave behind an example, which is morally inspiring. In an age riddled with political corruption, his career of exemplary integrity possesses a very special relevance for readers in contemporary India as well as abroad. Although Shastri's tenure as prime minister lasted only nineteen months, it was a period of high excitement and drama. Under Shastri's leadership India successfully fought a major war against Pakistan. This came as a tremendous boost to India after the China debacle three years earlier. This Indo-Pak war was followed by successful peace negotiations between the two countries at the famous Tashkent Conference, where, with the ink scarcely dry after all the momentous signatures, Shastri dramatically died of a heart attack. Several social and political issues of national importance and international interest emerged or found successful resolution during the time that Shastri held political power in Nehru's cabinet, as well as when he took over the premiership of India. There was the Kamaraj Plan; the question of Nehru's successor; the English-Hindi national language controversy; the problems of food scarcity and foodgrain imports; the Hazratbal episode of the stolen sacred relic from the shrine in Kashmir; the complicated diplomatic negotiations over Kashmir in the United Nations; the tangled web of tightrope relations with China, the USA, and the USSR; the controversy and suspicion over the circumstances of Shastri's sudden death; and finally the heroism and acclaim that came to Shastri. All this is recounted with vivid detail in this book, which also unearths and sets many facts right for the first time. This is the first and only biography for the general reader to be based on detailed and impeccable scholarship. The author of this biography, C.P. Srivastava, was Shrastri's personal aide for several years. He was with Shastri until the last day of his life, in Tashkent. He collected a large number of original documents from the USA; he interviewed bureaucrats, politicians and diplomats who were associated with Shastri's life and career; he travelled in Shastri's footsteps within India and abroad; he consulted medical experts to ascertain the truth about Shastri's death. In consequence, he has written a biography which is unlikely to be superceded. " C.P. Srivastava was an officer of the Indian Administrative Service. In 1964 Dr. Srivastava joined Prime Minister Shastri's secretariat to work as his aide. After Shastri's death, Srivastava was appointed as Chairman and Managing of the Shipping Corporation of India. He was awarded the Padma Bhushan in 1972. In 1974 he was elected Secretary-General of the U.N.'s International Maritime Organization. He also conceived and built up the World Maritime University of Malmo, Sweden, of which he became the Founding Chancellor. He has received decorations from the kings of Sweden, Norway, and Spain, as well as a knighthood (K.C.M.G.) from the queen of England. (Btw, the book was printed by Oxford University Press, Delhi. Oxford and New York are mentioned as well. It was published in 1995.) ..................................................................... For myself personally, the greatest significance of Sir C.P. is that Shri Mataji married him. Being married to the Incarnation of the Adi Shakti speaks volumes to me. i remember Sir C.P. telling us how much he relied on Shri Mataji. He claimed that his success in life really came from Her, the Power behind the Throne! Many times did Sir C.P. claim how great a person his wife is, and how kind to everyone She came in contact with. It must also be remembered that Shri Mataji Herself not only preached and taught spiritual liberation; She actually practiced what She preached 'to the nitty gritty'. As a young girl She was involved in the " Free India Movement " . She was at the forefront of it too; i saw a photo of her in a rally as a young girl on television; it was a documentary on India. She was never one to sit back and comment only, but when She was in a position to do something, She did it! So, let us " born of the Spirit persons " not think that there is no work to be done. The spiritual liberation of all mankind is at stake. Shri Mataji has asked us each to do our part. Some, She has said, should go into politics. When we transform the Kali Yuga into the Satya Yuga, Truth will flourish on the Earth. Sahaja Yogis (born of the Spirit persons) have the Absolute Truth within themselves. This is the Truth of the Spirit. It is the Spirit of the Law, and not the Letter of the Law that needs to be exercised. It is the Spirit of the Law of God Almighty. It is His Reign on Earth that will bring forth all the fruits of the New Golden Age, the Satya Yuga. We have all the Forces of Light that are working with us. Jai Shri Mataji! Violet -- In , " Violet " <violet.tubb > wrote: > > Dear All, > > There are dramatic happenings around the globe today. It is a war between the Forces of Light and the Forces of Darkness. The Forces of Light are guaranteed to win, according to Shri Mataji, THIS TIME AROUND, however, we each need to put our hand to what we can each do to change the world for the better. > > i do not see taking away people's liberties as the way forward. We all need to speak up and make our voices count where we can, each in his or her own sphere of influence. > > We need to be aware to what is really happening out there, and which is hidden from us. Just like WCASY, there are many organizations that want to dominate people. This cannot be the way forward if we are going to have a new Golden Age, a Satya Yuga, which also means a New Age of Truth. > > violet > > > , " Violet " <violet.tubb@ > ..> wrote: > > > > Dear Rose and All, > > > > As Sahaja Yogis we are not taught to turn a blind eye to what is > going on around us. Instead we are to use our Spiritual Powers to > change it. i have joined your Avian Forum, just to keep myself > 'further informed'. i have noticed that regular media, politics, etc. > just does not 'cut it' anymore. There doesn't seem to be any real > substance to the news anymore. It does not seem really 'real' anymore, > like we REALLY GET THE REAL NEWS anymore. i think we are actually > being kept in the dark, and this is not good! > > > > This makes me think that we all need to be more involved in changing > the Kali Yuga (Dark Ages) to the Satya Yuga (Golden Age)in a practical > way, such as Sahaja Yogis becoming politicians and changing the system > from within, just like Shri Mataji asked Sahaja Yogis to do. (However, > unfortunately, now most SY's are in their collective caves gazing at > their navels/(chakras) and just can't get over all their psychosomatic > blocks.) > > > > i also remember that Shri Mataji has stated that there are > 'terrible' things going on in this world to make 'one shudder'. She > never talked about the details, because that was not Her Role/Her Job. > However, She did say that there were plenty of others outside of the > organization who were Her Children who were also doing Her work and > that there were also plenty of sources/people who would expose this > corruption too. It would come from many sources, She said. > > > > Perhaps the Avian Forum and other forums are part and parcel of > doing the job of 'exposing' what is not right in the world today. > Perhaps, that is the only way we can move forward into a Golden Age. > Perhaps we need to talk and share and understand and realize that each > individual has the spiritual power, if they so choose, to change the > world for the better! > > > > We can all use our God-given discretion and 'sift' what is truth and > what is 'not-truth', however we just cannot close our eyes to > happenings in the world today, can we? > > > > i know that Shri Mataji asked Sahaja Yogis to become politicians and > change the system from within. She said we should use our Powers of > Enlightenment to change the world. i know She did not mean it only as > giving the Divine Message only. She wanted us to be the literal 'salt > of the earth' and bring Her Light and Truth into every facet of human > life, even the political world, the economic world; everywhere and > anywhere that our Spirit informs us. All we need to take with us is > the Absolute Truth, which will expose all lesser and relative truths. > What a Divine Task that is that Shri Mataji has given us! How many > times has She said that we are Her Warriors for the Truth; the Truth > that will expose all Untruth! > > > > Here is a politician who is seemingly just doing that. i am not > saying what he says is 'right' or 'wrong' but if what he says IS > RIGHT, this might just explain why the 'regular news' just does not > seem to have any substance anymore. > > > > http://health.Avian2005/message/5875 > > > > violet > > > > > > , " rose32217 " > <rose32217@ > > ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Religious conditioning.. if you folks haven't seen this video, > > you're > > > missing a lot (a picture might be worth a thousand words, here. ...) > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdTldR17Zms > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdTldR17Zms> It impressed me > > enough > > > that I started checking..google led me to > > > > > > http://www.adishakti.org/forum/ > > dangers_of_fundamentalism_i've_been_talki\ > > > ng_to_jesus_all_my_life_2-15-2005.htm > > > <http://www.adishakti.org/forum/ > > dangers_of_fundamentalism_i've_been_talk\ > > > ing_to_jesus_all_my_life_2-15-2005.htm> and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /message/3585 > > > </message/ 3585> > > > http://www.adishakti.org/forum/archives.htm > > > <http://www.adishakti.org/forum/archives.htm> > > > http://www.adishakti.org/ <http://www.adishakti.org/index.htm> > > > > > > > > > > > > also...you may want to ck out > > > http://health.Avian2005/ > > > <http://health.Avian2005/> > > > > > > > > > > > > where you would be more than welcome.. > > > > > > Join us; and even if you don't, beware the needle, " Mudville Rose " > > > > > > , " jagbir singh " > > > <adishakti_org@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shriadishakti , " jagbir singh " > > > > adishakti_org wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear All. > > > > > > > > > > i have received an email from Violet regarding the above post > > > > > which i believe will help others understand religious > > conditioning > > > > > better. i am going to give her email to a friend of mine whose > > > > > wife, a lovely lady who had earlier accepted all faiths, > > suddenly > > > > > became against all non-Christian traditions after she joined a > > > > > fundamentalist Pentecostical church. Over time i have seen her > > > > > becoming even more dogmatic in her views about others, even > > > > > Christian groups like Catholics, Mormons, Jehovah's Witness, > > > > > Methodists etc. As far as she is concerned only her church has > > the > > > > > salvation truth, to the exclusion of all others. > > > > > > > > > > Now she has intense dislike for even the Sikh faith of her > > > > > husband. This is a mixed race/religious marraige that i > > attended. > > > > > That is why it troubles me to find her so brainwashed by > > religious > > > > > fanatics in rejecting even the traditions of her own husband. > > > > > > > > > > This is indeed sad but the same pattern is repeated the world > > over > > > > > as thousands of religious sects lay claim to the same 'chosen > > > > > people' doctrine. It is only when one meets Shri Mataji does > > this > > > > > hatred and dislike for other religions, scriptures and > prophets > > > > > end. Her Divine Message to humanity gives us the vision and > > > > > enlightenment to overcome all past conditionings. We come to > > know > > > > > the Truth that sets us free. It is such a blessing to embrace > > all > > > > > the messengers of God. > > > > > > > > > > Jai Shri Mataji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jagbir > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > i have another great email from Violet who, as a former > Christian > > > > fundamentalist, knows this subject better. Her potrayal of the > > > > Pentecostal Churches is exactly what my friend's wife is > > undergoing. > > > > > > > > The last time i met her i initially refrained from reacting as > it > > > > was the birthday party of her daughter. But she was not > interested > > > > in the guests as she sat on the sofa watching a Pentecostal > Church > > > > doomsday video with another like-minded fanatic. > > > > > > > > For more than an hour i listened silently, together with a few > > > > guests, to her comments - she is one with Jesus, the Holy Spirit > > is > > > > guiding her daily, only in her church is salvation possible, all > > non- > > > > Christian religions are false etc. > > > > > > > > In the end i had to tell her that if she did not stop going to > the > > > > Pentecostal Church she would become even more fanatical. After > > some > > > > exchanges she told me that she is right because " Jesus talks to > > me " . > > > > > > > > That was indeed a frightening statment that made me realize how > > the > > > > Pentecostal Churches brainwash their followers into inducing > them > > to > > > > believe that Jesus talks to them. i mean there is nothing wrong > > with > > > > saying the Jesus guides me. But when Christian fundamentalists > > begin > > > > believe Jesus and the Holy Spirit talks to them, then that is > the > > > > point of no return. This is because every Sunday when they > return > > to > > > > their churches the same believe is enforced and induced again > and > > > > again. Thus when Jesus and the Holy Spirit is already talking to > > > > them what knowledge have mere humans like me to give. > > > > > > > > When the party finished the husband stood at the door to see > each > > > > guest off. His wife did not have that presence of mind. She was > > busy > > > > watching another fundamentalist Christian channel, oblivious to > > > > those who had come to celebrate her daughter's birthday. The > > > > fundamentalism of the Pentecostal Churches had consumed her. > > > > > > > > jagbir > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------- > > > > > > > > The Dangers of Fundamentalism > > > > > > > > A quote by Sri Mataji on the 19th Sahasrara Day is: - > > > > > > > > " How to now turn human beings away from these superficial > > > > religions, these perverted paths of destruction? How to tell > them > > > > about all these established organizations? For ages they have > been > > > > ruling, making money, making power. " > > > > > > > > What SM states is the truth but many people do not realize the > > snare > > > > that they are in when they are taken in by Fundamentalism. Sri > > > > Mataji has also stated that all Fundamentalists are actually > > missing > > > > the " fundamentals " . This is also very true. Take for example, > > > > the very fundamental doctrine of " reincarnation " that was > > > > removed from Christian teachings at the Council of Nicea. The > > reason > > > > this teaching was removed was because it allowed the priests and > > > > leaders to have more power over the people. Why if a person has > > > > several lives, a church cannot damn them to eternal hellfire and > > > > destruction, can they? And then they do not have the same power > > over > > > > the person, do they? > > > > > > > > A very present concern now is that the Pentecostal Churches > > > > are " taking in " a lot of people with their so-called > > > > " Baptism of the Holy Spirit " . I have been there; done that > > > > when I was in my late teens. I know it feels good and > invigorating > > > > for a while but it is not the real gift of the Holy Spirit. I > felt > > > > drunk with power and danced automatically with all the others. > > > > Looking back I see it as a mass hysteria in which everyone is in > a > > > > state of mind that whatever the minister says, is accepted as > > > > " gospel truth " . This mass hypnosis is a very clever > > > > simulation of what people feel was experienced on the Day of > > > > Pentecost. It is like a " siddhi " or " power " but it is > > > > not the real > > > > thing. > > > > > > > > How do I know it is a fake? I received my real Baptism of the > Holy > > > > Spirit in 1993 when my Kundalini energy within, which is the > Holy > > > > Spirit within, rose, and I felt it as a Cool Breeze of the Holy > > > > Ghost, same as on the Day of Pentecost! And it came from within > > not > > > > from some minister putting his hand on my head. Remember, on the > > Day > > > > of Pentecost, there was a wind blowing, a Cool Wind. Well, if > you > > > > are not feeling this as " cool " , you can know that it is not > > > > the real Baptism of the Holy Spirit. > > > > > > > > If you are in the snare of Pentecostalism and are aware that > > > > everything is not quite right, that instead of becoming your own > > > > guru, master, or teacher, you hang on every word of the > minister, > > > > know that you are on the wrong path! Further, if he tells you > that > > > > this is the only right way and that you are not to question > > anything > > > > but just accept it, know that you are on the wrong path! > Further, > > if > > > > you start to think that all other religions are completely > wrong, > > > > you are on the wrong path! > > > > > > > > The fact is that all the incarnations and prophets of every > > religion > > > > actually agree with each other in their teachings. Study the > > > > essential truths of them all and strip away the man-made > doctrines > > > > of the church and Voila! They all agree! Please be your own guru > > and > > > > give yourself the opportunity to check this truth out for > > yourself, > > > > for your minister will not give you that liberty for fear of > > losing > > > > you. > > > > > > > > Sri Mataji says the essence of the teachings of all the > > Incarnations > > > > and Prophets of the different religions are like the flowers on > > the > > > > one tree. However, if you pick one of the flowers and claim it > as > > > > your own, that flower will die because it has left its sources. > > All > > > > these " flowers " are from the One Source, God Almighty. > > > > > > > > I would like you to know that there is a way out of > > > > " fundamentalism " of any kind and that you can get the real > > > > Baptism of the Holy Spirit from Sri Mataji Nirmala Devi and > Sahaja > > > > Yoga. Sri Mataji Nirmala Devi is also initiating the Last > Judgment > > > > and Resurrection that Jesus said would happen. You must take > heed > > > > now for we are living in important times of individual decision > as > > > > to what is the real Truth of all the religions. Sri Mataji also > > > > gives you absolute freedom to question everything and test > > > > everything to see if it is true. She does not snare you but > gives > > > > you the absolute freedom; so do try Sahaja Yoga if you are > looking > > > > for the Truth. > > > > > > > > > > > > Violet > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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