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To all SYs and seekers of Truth,

 

Perhaps the most famous venue where Shri Mataji talked about the

Resurrection and Last Judgment to thousands of complete strangers/

public is the Royal Albert Hall, London, UK. i quote Her:

 

" All this is coming because this is the Last Judgment. I have told

you, this is the Last Judgment. And this Last Judgment will really

decide who are to be saved and who are to be doomed completely. It

is a very, very serious thing. All of them who are aware should

think about it. "

 

She has done so all over the world over the years and decades, time

and again exhorting and pleading with humans to transform themselves

as the Last Judgment and Resurrection is taking place.

 

However, even as the eleventh hour today ticks on, the criminally

negligent custodians of Shri Mataji's Message and Will continue to

suppress Her Divine Message. The infamous Inquisytion of WCASY is

instead used against those who try to follow Shri Mataji's direction

and vision. Yet again i have to repeat that a satanic negativity has

possessed our leaders and WCASY council members and they are now

actively preventing the rest of humanity from knowing about God

Almighty's Last Judgment and Resurrection. A powerful evil force is

preventing the culmination of God's Plan by overpowering and

possessing our leaders with the fear and apprehension of speaking

about the Last Judgment and Resurrection that Shri Mataji repeated

hundreds of times. And tens of thousands of SYs influenced by such

leaders are following them to spread the false SYSSR!

 

Below is the speech (from which the quote above was taken) given by

Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi on July 14, 2001 at the Royal Albert Hall,

London, UK. The present-day WCASY council members and leaders should

have admonished Shri Mataji for publicly speaking about the

Resurrection and Last Judgment in such a prominent venue. However,

the Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion is a subtle way of achieving

just that behind Shri Mataji's back. Her present incapacitation will

only embolden the criminally negligent custodians of Shri Mataji's

Message and Will. This forum and the websites are the only obstacles

left in their path of complete domination of Shri Mataji's Advent,

Vision and Divine Message. We must never waiver or fail in our

resolve to defeat this negativity.

 

Jai Shri Ganapathi,

 

 

jagbir

 

 

 

--------

 

 

" I bow to all the seekers of Truth.

 

Some of you have found the Truth, some of you have not found it

fully, and some of you have not found it at all. But if you look

around in today's situation, you will have to admit there is a big

turmoil going on. Countries after countries are taking to all kinds

of wrong things. A lot of cold war is on, people are killing each

other, destroying beautiful places, cutting each other's throat for

nothing at all. We are all human beings created by God, God Almighty

has created them and has brought them to this level of human

awareness.

 

At this juncture one can see where are we going in a collective way.

This is, where have we to reach or is it our destiny? Is this the

destiny of human beings, to be destroyed by each other for land or

for anything else? Think of the whole world as one and think what is

happening all over. Every day you read newspaper, every day there is

some sort of a horrible news about horrible things people are doing

to each other for no rhyme or reason. We have to think: what is the

destiny, where are we going? Are we going to Hell or to Heaven? What

is our situation around? Can you help it?

 

What is wrong with human beings is: they are still in the complete

control of ignorance. I would call it ignorance, and in that

ignorance, in that darkness, they are doing this horrible thing.

Nobody wants to understand that what we are doing is nothing but

complete destruction. Is that our destiny? That we are going to get

destroyed completely? What good are we doing under the name of some

sort of nationality or maybe some religion, all kinds of things

which are good. But we are doing all wrong things: fighting.

Fighting is not nobility, we hate anybody who can excite our hatred.

It is very much, I don't know… very much liked, and under this

guidance, we form groups.

 

All this is coming because this is the Last Judgment. I have told

you, this is the Last Judgment. And this Last Judgment will really

decide who are to be saved and who are to be doomed completely. It

is a very, very serious thing. All of them who are aware should

think about it. Little patchwork here, and a little patchwork is not

going to do. Whatever you may try, unless and until you transform

human being, it cannot be saved. This transformation is not an

impossible thing, it is not difficult. This is the time for

transformation, this is a chance for transformation. And within us

it is placed, the power, as power it is described, is the mystical

feminine power within us. All of them have written, I am not the

first person to say that, but nobody has been able, perhaps so far,

to understand it or to accept it that it should happen to you.

You are born, not only to be human beings, but you have to be

superhuman. You have to enjoy yourself, your life should be

enjoyable, it should be blissful. It should not be a curse, morning

till evening worried about this, worried about that. That is why you

are created, because God had no intention of creating people who

will be all the time worried how to quarrel, how to fight, how to

save, but people who will live in complete harmony, peace and joy.

That is why we are created, that is our destiny. That is not just I

am telling you, but it is a fact.

 

So we will have to be, we have to be transformed. This

transformation is not difficult, but what I find you could get

satisfied with anything. Hindus will go to the temple getting " oh we

have done great " , Christians go to the church and think they have

done very good, Muslims will go and pray and think that they are

great. What have they achieved? 

 

Face yourselves, please, face your limitations, face your, face your

problems and see for yourself: Have you been able to solve your

problems? Have you been able to save yourself from calamities? . . .

I am not only talking, but I want you all to get your self-

realization. What is self-realization? It is to know your self. You

do not know your self, you do not know. You are living in this world

without knowing your self, can you imagine? You do not know what you

are, you do not know that you are the Spirit, and that you are the

source of knowledge, of pure knowledge. I find people sitting in a

meeting listening to some babaji who is telling them some story,

very happy. This is not going to give you the reality, and the

truth. If you want to have reality and truth, then please try to

understand that something has to happen, to you some transformation

has to take place. . . .

 

These are emergencies, you are living in very emergent conditions,

try to understand. And I want to warn you that if you do not go deep

into yourself and find out what you are and take to your

transformation, anything is possible: all kinds of diseases

happening to you, all kinds of new problems of children coming up,

all kinds of national problems are there, all kinds of international

problems are there, that people cannot help it. So we have to get

out of this and become a solid personality of truth.

 

We don not know what the truth is. We are worse than animals whose

eyes are open, while our eyes are closed. It is not to condemn you

or anything, but to make you alert and aware that human beings have

to change. Otherwise you just, you come to my lecture, tomorrow you

will come to another lecture. That is all, it is an everyday, sort

of a nice entertainment. But when I see the destiny, I don't know

how many will be going, how many will be finished, what will happen

to them, what diseases they will get, what problems they will get,

what will happen to their children, what will happen to their

country, and what will happen with the whole world. Just widen your

vision. My vision is that all the people of the world should get

transformation. We have enemies within ourselves, and when we talk

of jihad we talk that you have to fight your enemies within

yourself. What are our enemies?

 

These days the worst is greed, there is greed. With that greed

people can do anything they want, all kinds of things are happening

out of greed. They will have money, they will have all kinds of

facilities, but still this greed is such a satanic thing that you do

not even see what you have. And you want to have more and more,

deceive people, deceive your ……… , deceive everyone and ……… .

You have heard so much about Spirit and Spiritual life. But, have

you reached that point? Even when you read zen-system, tao-system,

Bible, Koran, anything. Do you know how to reach that point of the

Spirit? Not yet, not yet. You have to know that, because you are

very great, you are very precious and you are so beautiful within.

But you are not aware of it! You have to become that. That becoming

is very important. And for that already God Almighty has organised

within you, which is called as Kundalini, which can be awakened and

its awakening can give you self realisation, can give you self

knowledge, as you call atma sakshat. That is what is very, very

important in your life to have it, and when it is free, you cannot

pay for it. How much can you pay? When it is absolutely free, why

don't you take your self realisation? And why don't you grow?. . . 

Mohammed Saab has said clearly: " At the time of resurrection your

hands will speak. " Are they speaking?

 

Hindus know about it, that we have to get our self realisation. No

use just listening to these babajis and giving them money. All this

kind of rituals that we are doing, that our forefathers have been

doing. What have we achieved? Nothing!

 

So now it is important for us to know that we have to have our

evolution reaching to the point of self realisation. If we were

perfect, there would have been no problem. If we were self realised

people, there would have been no problem. All kinds of selfishness,

all kinds of limits we have put around us, all kinds of conditioning

and ego, which have been working our life and have been ruling us,

we have to get over it. And once you get over it you get united.

Nobody has to tell you that you get united. You lose all

misidentifications. Your misidentifications are that, that you

belong to this country, you belong to this religion, you belong to

that. You belong to nothing. You belong to the Kingdom of God. That

is what we have to achieve, and you should be one there. But if you

like storytelling there is no end to it.

 

But you are wasting your time! The time is running short. I have

been now here for the last, I don't know, 20 years or so. I worked

very hard, but what I find, that people do not realise what they are

supposed to do. They like people who will just say something very

simple, or who are to serve visual entertainment. So the whole

humanity has to understand that destiny of destruction is to be

about today, complete destruction is to be about. And very simple is

that you enter into the Kingdom of God, which is very easy, no time

to pay anything, you do not have to work out anything. You take your

self realisation, and then at home you spend about 10 minutes

meditating. Only your mind is all the time justifying your

misbehaviour. I call it misbehaviour because it is against the

truth, it is against God's wish, it is against humanity, and it will

destroy all the good things.

 

All this misidentifications have to be dropped and you have to know

that we are all one, we are all one, we are all global, we are not

separated by colour, race or religion. We should know we are all

one, and that oneness should not be established by slogans or by

shouting. What should be that oneness is to be felt within. It is

not artificial, it has to be real, very real oneness. And that comes

to you once you realise that you are part and parcel of the whole. 

Religions have brought you up to this point of awareness, not your

fighting, not your killing. Why, why human beings have diverted

themselves? Because of complete ignorance of righteousness , because

of complete greed of oneself, oneself, just yourself, all your

family, at the most all your relations. Why do you want to keep it

yourself? You are the Spirit. Spirit is the ocean, ocean of

knowledge, is the ocean of love, is the ocean of all blessings.

So we have to decide. Today I have to request that there is not so

much time left. We have to decide that we have to become the Spirit.

That is what all the religions have brought, but how to do it was

not so very much explained, and it did not work out. Some of them

did get it, but they were not trusted, nobody listened to them. Even

people killed them and tortured them and crucified them. But now

please, all of you, try to understand the value of that ………. Why are

you humans? Why are you created? What is the purpose behind this?

Are you going to be driven by nonsensical ideas? Are you going to be

finished by all sorts of dividing factors? No, no. You are all going

to get your self realisation, and you are going to understand the

value of your life.

 

The problem is, you will get your realisation in the sense, the

power within you will rise. It is very well organised. Actually, God

is a great creator, how he has balanced and how it works out is

remarkable, every detail He has done it. With that happening, is not

sufficient. You enter into, say, a palace and then you go round and

see for yourself how beautiful you are, what beautiful things God

has made, then grow into it. Once you are grown into it then you

will realise what a great thing you are, the greatest gem, the

greatest person so loving, that having some writing under statues.

Nobody tries to understand what were they doing, how they worked.

So, tonight we can have the experience, the experience of the

Spirit. It is a very unusual rare thing, never used to have one like

that. But it is now, so why not take advantage of it. Please, be

ready for that, accept it, take it and become. Becoming is the

point. What you become is the point, and what you make out of this

whole human civilisation is your problem, not mine. I can help, I

can work it out.

 

So I would request you all to now get ready for self

realisation. . . .

 

This power Kundalini is placed in the triangular bone, known as

sacrum, is sacred and it rises through 6 centres of the

parasympathic and ultimately pierces through the fontanel bone area

which was a soft bone in your head, on top of your head, when you

were a child it was a soft bone. It pierces through that and enters

into the subtle energy of all pervading power of divine love. They

call it by different names, they call it Paramchaitanya, they call

it Chaitanya, some call it as Ruh. You may call it by any name, it

is the Love of God. Once you get connected with you, when you start

feeling on your fingers some sort of a breeze, first some people

will get hot, does not matter, but then it cools down and you get

the cool breeze of the Holy Ghost everyone. And it starts flowing. "

                                                                     

Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

July 14, 2001 - Royal Albert Hall, London, UK

 

 

" jagbir singh " <adishakti_org

Mon May 15, 2006 8:19 am

Who are the criminally negligent custodians of Shri

Mataji's Message and Will?

 

, " my2pai " <my2pai

wrote:

>

> And yet the supposed custodians of Shri Mataji's Message and,

> purportedly, of Shri Mataji's Will, have, with an attitude of

> almost criminal negligence, continually underplayed and

> understated the import of the Great Incarnation. While the false

> gurus are masquerading as great saints and even incarnations,

 

http://www.divine-mother.org/

http://www.divinemother.net/

http://www.motherdivine.org/

http://www.gurumaa.com/

http://www.kashi.org/

http://www.tara.org/jetsunma.htm

http://www.yogachicago.com/may04/karuna.shtml

http://www.geocities.com/ascendedmaster/MotherMeera.html

http://www.pathofthemother.com/play3.html

http://www.adidam.org/

http://www.narayaniamma.org/

http://home.arcor.de/maatrix/amma.html

http://www.karunamayi.org/HB-Home.html

http://www.ammachi.org/

http://www.globeworks.com/appaji/

http://www.babajiashram.org/

http://www.sathyasai.org/

http://www.3ho.org/YogiBhajan.html

http://www.siddhayoga.org/shree-muktananda-ashram.html

http://www.ashram.org/

http://www.thefamily.org/ourfounder/ourfounder.htm

http://www.swadhyay.org/

http://www.louixdordempriey.com/news.html

http://www.dattapeetham.com/

http://www.abo.fi/comprel/joel.htm

http://www.inricristo.org.br/pg.ingles.html

http://www.kaleshwar.org/en/index

http://www.onenessuniversity.org/

http://www.miracle.org/

http://www.ex-premie.org/

http://www.avatarmeherbaba.org/

http://unification.org/

http://www.narayanipeedam.org/

http://www.shantimandir.com/

http://www.sripremananda.org/

http://www.srcm.org/index.jsp

http://www.ramakrishnananda.com/view.php?page=442 & Disp=82

 

 

> the marketers of Shri Adi Shakti's Incarnation have packaged

> Sahaja Yoga as a technique for stress relief and pretend that Shri

> Mataji is just an ordinary guru discoursing on the subtle system:

> such a grotesque and unconcionable understatement of the greatness

> of the Divine Incarnation of Shri Adi Shakti.

>

 

Sahaja Yoga is a unique method of meditation based on an experience

called Self Realization (Kundalini awakening) that can occur within

each human being.

 

Through this process an inner transformation takes place by which

one becomes moral, united, integrated and balanced.

 

http://www.sahajayoga.org/

http://www.sahajayoga.org/worldwidecontacts/default.asp

 

All Sahaja Yoga meetings are offered free of charge, usually on a

weekly basis. Calling the center located in your country you will be

able to get information about the programs which are closest to you.

Not all countries are listed - if your country is not on the list,

call the number corresponding to the nearest country to find out

about possible local Sahaja Yoga contacts which are not enlisted

here.

 

Algeria (213)21.63.28.40 / msaitchaalal

Argentina (54 11) 4863 3291 / sahajayogaargentina

Aruba (297) 839 662

Australia (61 2) 9416 2373

Austria (43 1) 609 11 31

Bahrain 00-973-39067465, 00-973-39575301 / kmadhu60,

prakashsahaj

Belarus (7 0172) 62 68 27

Belgium (32 83) 21 47 31

Benin (229) 21 25 25

Bhutan (00975) 2-326460 / rajeshkafley

Bolivia (591 42) 47740

Bulgaria +359 888 77 58 12

Cameroon (237) 22 73 97

Canada (1 416) 614-7338 : (1 604) 597-8440

Chile (56 2) 2207237 / sahajayogachile

Colombia (571) 214-3971

Cyprus +357 24 639108 / +357 99 832868 / +357 99605826 /

inna

Czech Republic (420 2) 9972310

Denmark 45 38118915 / info

Estonia 37255-640333 / sahaja.yoga

Finland (358 9) 855 0934

France (33 1) 43 30 57 25

Georgia, Republic of (7 8832) 38 95 24

Germany (49 3322) 20 88 70

Greece (30 1) 822 9262 / inna

Hong Kong (852) 25045260

Hungary (36 1) 218-0493

Iceland 00354\8454812 / ritadefruyt

Indonesia (including East Timor) 62 21 544 6672 /

SahajaYogaIndonesia

Ireland (Eire) (3531) 282 5542

Israel (972 3) 506 1214 / sy_israel

Italy (39 744) 919-851

Japan (81-3)3469-1027, (81-426)78-2923 / hitoshii

Kazakhstan (7 3252) 12 13 68

Kenya 254.2.604999 / moweke

Kuwait 6134619 / aciyer

Latvia (00 371) 9195326, (00 371) 7532656 / sahajayoga

Lithuania (37 02) 47 81 43

Macedonia, Republic of (389 91) 22 62 75

Malaysia 603- 6140 3388 or 6012- 273 86 22 /

sahajayogamsia

Mexico (52 5) 575 1949

Moldova +3732 2 73 87 80, 29 46 02 / irinanori,

corina1970

Nepal (01) 482 735 / sykp

Netherlands (31 20) 697-2038

New Zealand (64 9) 418 3824

Norway (4766) 66915608

Peru (Home) 511 264-6800, (Cell) 511 9817-3805 /

crramosh, crramos

Poland (48 22) 751 3520

Portugal (351 1) 396 3149

Reunion 0262 412028 / nirmal-run

Romania (40 1) 777 7216

Russia (7 095) 541 3745 / info

Seychelles (248) 322 743

Sierra Leone (232) 25316

Singapore (65) 6348 9769 / vigvikas

Slovak Republic (Slovakia) (42 17) 54415493

Slovenia 386-41-428333

South Africa (011) 864 - 3410 / ramoodley

Spain (0034) 91 715 8788

Sweden +46/8-7610033 / froelen

Switzerland (41 22) 779 20 37

Taiwan (886 2) 715 5208

Thailand (662) 712 14 18

Tunisia (43 1) 381 559

Turkey (0090) 212 248 31 22

Ukraine (380-44) 442 68 71

United Arab Emirates (971) 426 36327

United Kingdom (44 181) 930 5621

Uruguay (59 82) 60 77 09

Zambia (260) 1 291 378

 

 

So who are the supposed custodians of Shri Mataji's Message and,

purportedly, of Shri Mataji's Will, who have, with an attitude of

almost criminal negligence, continually underplayed and understated

the import of the Great Incarnation?

 

 

Rajesh Shah

Gregoire de Kalbermatten

David Spiro

Vijay Nalgirkar

Manoj Kumar

Eduardo Marino

Wolfgang Hackl

Majid Golpour

Phillip Zeiss

Derek Lee

Arneau de Kalbermatten

Nese Algan

Ivan Tan

Karan Khurana

Alex Henshaw

Aldo Gandolfi

Rajiv Kumar

Brian Wells

David Dunphy

Zafar Rashid

Bohdan Shehovich

Gagan Ahluwalia

Paul Ellis

Alan Wherry

Alan Pereira

Sandeep Gadkary

Mihaela Balasescu

Viktor Bondar

Dmitry Korotaev

Alexander Solodyankin

Chris Kyriacou

Advisors to the Council:

 

Gagan Ahluwalia: Financial, Accounting and Property matters

Paul Ellis: Legal Affairs

Alan Wherry : Publication Issues

 

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hello brother jagbir what can we do for that?i think it is very dangerous for sahaja yoga if the negativity possessed the leader and the highest members of WCASY,according to me, every one have to work himself to grow and to establish a personnel relationship with our HOLLY MOTHER, i also think that WCASY is an other illusion of MAHAMAYa.if we wan to help humanity and sahaja yoga, we have to grow and see SHRI MATAJI in our meditation whose can give us all instructions.you know in my country(cameroon)the problem of leadership have separated our collectif nowaday, we have three collectif and each collectif leader`s claim that he are national leader and we can be unite as children of SHRI MATAJI what can i do?today in WCASY we havent african member what is meaning?is no sahaja yoga in AFRICA?if it that can somebody come and help us to be sahaja yogi?why mother does no come in AFRICA? because of poverty? isaacjagbir singh

<adishakti_org a écrit : To all SYs and seekers of Truth,Perhaps the most famous venue where Shri Mataji talked about the Resurrection and Last Judgment to thousands of complete strangers/public is the Royal Albert Hall, London, UK. i quote Her:"All this is coming because this is the Last Judgment. I have told you, this is the Last Judgment. And this Last Judgment will really decide who are to be saved and who are to be doomed completely. It is a very, very serious thing. All of them who are aware should think about it."She has done so all over the world over the years and decades, time and again exhorting and pleading with humans to transform themselves as the Last Judgment and Resurrection is taking place. However, even as the eleventh hour today ticks on, the criminally

negligent custodians of Shri Mataji's Message and Will continue to suppress Her Divine Message. The infamous Inquisytion of WCASY is instead used against those who try to follow Shri Mataji's direction and vision. Yet again i have to repeat that a satanic negativity has possessed our leaders and WCASY council members and they are now actively preventing the rest of humanity from knowing about God Almighty's Last Judgment and Resurrection. A powerful evil force is preventing the culmination of God's Plan by overpowering and possessing our leaders with the fear and apprehension of speaking about the Last Judgment and Resurrection that Shri Mataji repeated hundreds of times. And tens of thousands of SYs influenced by such leaders are following them to spread the false SYSSR!Below is the speech (from which the quote above was taken) given by Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi on July 14, 2001 at the Royal Albert Hall,

London, UK. The present-day WCASY council members and leaders should have admonished Shri Mataji for publicly speaking about the Resurrection and Last Judgment in such a prominent venue. However, the Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion is a subtle way of achieving just that behind Shri Mataji's back. Her present incapacitation will only embolden the criminally negligent custodians of Shri Mataji's Message and Will. This forum and the websites are the only obstacles left in their path of complete domination of Shri Mataji's Advent, Vision and Divine Message. We must never waiver or fail in our resolve to defeat this negativity.Jai Shri Ganapathi,jagbir--------"I bow to all the seekers of Truth.Some of you have found the Truth, some of you have not found it fully, and some of you have not found it at all. But if you look around in today's

situation, you will have to admit there is a big turmoil going on. Countries after countries are taking to all kinds of wrong things. A lot of cold war is on, people are killing each other, destroying beautiful places, cutting each other's throat for nothing at all. We are all human beings created by God, God Almighty has created them and has brought them to this level of human awareness.At this juncture one can see where are we going in a collective way. This is, where have we to reach or is it our destiny? Is this the destiny of human beings, to be destroyed by each other for land or for anything else? Think of the whole world as one and think what is happening all over. Every day you read newspaper, every day there is some sort of a horrible news about horrible things people are doing to each other for no rhyme or reason. We have to think: what is the destiny, where are we going? Are we going to Hell or to

Heaven? What is our situation around? Can you help it?What is wrong with human beings is: they are still in the complete control of ignorance. I would call it ignorance, and in that ignorance, in that darkness, they are doing this horrible thing. Nobody wants to understand that what we are doing is nothing but complete destruction. Is that our destiny? That we are going to get destroyed completely? What good are we doing under the name of some sort of nationality or maybe some religion, all kinds of things which are good. But we are doing all wrong things: fighting. Fighting is not nobility, we hate anybody who can excite our hatred. It is very much, I don't know… very much liked, and under this guidance, we form groups.All this is coming because this is the Last Judgment. I have told you, this is the Last Judgment. And this Last Judgment will really decide who are to be saved and who are to be doomed

completely. It is a very, very serious thing. All of them who are aware should think about it. Little patchwork here, and a little patchwork is not going to do. Whatever you may try, unless and until you transform human being, it cannot be saved. This transformation is not an impossible thing, it is not difficult. This is the time for transformation, this is a chance for transformation. And within us it is placed, the power, as power it is described, is the mystical feminine power within us. All of them have written, I am not the first person to say that, but nobody has been able, perhaps so far, to understand it or to accept it that it should happen to you. You are born, not only to be human beings, but you have to be superhuman. You have to enjoy yourself, your life should be enjoyable, it should be blissful. It should not be a curse, morning till evening worried about this, worried about that. That is why you

are created, because God had no intention of creating people who will be all the time worried how to quarrel, how to fight, how to save, but people who will live in complete harmony, peace and joy. That is why we are created, that is our destiny. That is not just I am telling you, but it is a fact. So we will have to be, we have to be transformed. This transformation is not difficult, but what I find you could get satisfied with anything. Hindus will go to the temple getting "oh we have done great", Christians go to the church and think they have done very good, Muslims will go and pray and think that they are great. What have they achieved? Face yourselves, please, face your limitations, face your, face your problems and see for yourself: Have you been able to solve your problems? Have you been able to save yourself from calamities? . . . I am not only talking, but I want you all to get your

self-realization. What is self-realization? It is to know your self. You do not know your self, you do not know. You are living in this world without knowing your self, can you imagine? You do not know what you are, you do not know that you are the Spirit, and that you are the source of knowledge, of pure knowledge. I find people sitting in a meeting listening to some babaji who is telling them some story, very happy. This is not going to give you the reality, and the truth. If you want to have reality and truth, then please try to understand that something has to happen, to you some transformation has to take place. . . . These are emergencies, you are living in very emergent conditions, try to understand. And I want to warn you that if you do not go deep into yourself and find out what you are and take to your transformation, anything is possible: all kinds of diseases happening to you, all kinds of new

problems of children coming up, all kinds of national problems are there, all kinds of international problems are there, that people cannot help it. So we have to get out of this and become a solid personality of truth. We don not know what the truth is. We are worse than animals whose eyes are open, while our eyes are closed. It is not to condemn you or anything, but to make you alert and aware that human beings have to change. Otherwise you just, you come to my lecture, tomorrow you will come to another lecture. That is all, it is an everyday, sort of a nice entertainment. But when I see the destiny, I don't know how many will be going, how many will be finished, what will happen to them, what diseases they will get, what problems they will get, what will happen to their children, what will happen to their country, and what will happen with the whole world. Just widen your vision. My vision is that all the

people of the world should get transformation. We have enemies within ourselves, and when we talk of jihad we talk that you have to fight your enemies within yourself. What are our enemies? These days the worst is greed, there is greed. With that greed people can do anything they want, all kinds of things are happening out of greed. They will have money, they will have all kinds of facilities, but still this greed is such a satanic thing that you do not even see what you have. And you want to have more and more, deceive people, deceive your ……… , deceive everyone and ……… . You have heard so much about Spirit and Spiritual life. But, have you reached that point? Even when you read zen-system, tao-system, Bible, Koran, anything. Do you know how to reach that point of the Spirit? Not yet, not yet. You have to know that, because you are very great, you are very precious and you are so beautiful within. But you are

not aware of it! You have to become that. That becoming is very important. And for that already God Almighty has organised within you, which is called as Kundalini, which can be awakened and its awakening can give you self realisation, can give you self knowledge, as you call atma sakshat. That is what is very, very important in your life to have it, and when it is free, you cannot pay for it. How much can you pay? When it is absolutely free, why don't you take your self realisation? And why don't you grow?. . . Mohammed Saab has said clearly: "At the time of resurrection your hands will speak." Are they speaking? Hindus know about it, that we have to get our self realisation. No use just listening to these babajis and giving them money. All this kind of rituals that we are doing, that our forefathers have been doing. What have we achieved? Nothing! So now it is important for us to know that we have to

have our evolution reaching to the point of self realisation. If we were perfect, there would have been no problem. If we were self realised people, there would have been no problem. All kinds of selfishness, all kinds of limits we have put around us, all kinds of conditioning and ego, which have been working our life and have been ruling us, we have to get over it. And once you get over it you get united. Nobody has to tell you that you get united. You lose all misidentifications. Your misidentifications are that, that you belong to this country, you belong to this religion, you belong to that. You belong to nothing. You belong to the Kingdom of God. That is what we have to achieve, and you should be one there. But if you like storytelling there is no end to it. But you are wasting your time! The time is running short. I have been now here for the last, I don't know, 20 years or so. I worked very hard, but

what I find, that people do not realise what they are supposed to do. They like people who will just say something very simple, or who are to serve visual entertainment. So the whole humanity has to understand that destiny of destruction is to be about today, complete destruction is to be about. And very simple is that you enter into the Kingdom of God, which is very easy, no time to pay anything, you do not have to work out anything. You take your self realisation, and then at home you spend about 10 minutes meditating. Only your mind is all the time justifying your misbehaviour. I call it misbehaviour because it is against the truth, it is against God's wish, it is against humanity, and it will destroy all the good things. All this misidentifications have to be dropped and you have to know that we are all one, we are all one, we are all global, we are not separated by colour, race or religion. We should know we

are all one, and that oneness should not be established by slogans or by shouting. What should be that oneness is to be felt within. It is not artificial, it has to be real, very real oneness. And that comes to you once you realise that you are part and parcel of the whole. Religions have brought you up to this point of awareness, not your fighting, not your killing. Why, why human beings have diverted themselves? Because of complete ignorance of righteousness , because of complete greed of oneself, oneself, just yourself, all your family, at the most all your relations. Why do you want to keep it yourself? You are the Spirit. Spirit is the ocean, ocean of knowledge, is the ocean of love, is the ocean of all blessings. So we have to decide. Today I have to request that there is not so much time left. We have to decide that we have to become the Spirit. That is what all the religions have brought, but how to do

it was not so very much explained, and it did not work out. Some of them did get it, but they were not trusted, nobody listened to them. Even people killed them and tortured them and crucified them. But now please, all of you, try to understand the value of that ………. Why are you humans? Why are you created? What is the purpose behind this? Are you going to be driven by nonsensical ideas? Are you going to be finished by all sorts of dividing factors? No, no. You are all going to get your self realisation, and you are going to understand the value of your life. The problem is, you will get your realisation in the sense, the power within you will rise. It is very well organised. Actually, God is a great creator, how he has balanced and how it works out is remarkable, every detail He has done it. With that happening, is not sufficient. You enter into, say, a palace and then you go round and see for yourself how

beautiful you are, what beautiful things God has made, then grow into it. Once you are grown into it then you will realise what a great thing you are, the greatest gem, the greatest person so loving, that having some writing under statues. Nobody tries to understand what were they doing, how they worked. So, tonight we can have the experience, the experience of the Spirit. It is a very unusual rare thing, never used to have one like that. But it is now, so why not take advantage of it. Please, be ready for that, accept it, take it and become. Becoming is the point. What you become is the point, and what you make out of this whole human civilisation is your problem, not mine. I can help, I can work it out. So I would request you all to now get ready for self realisation. . . . This power Kundalini is placed in the triangular bone, known as sacrum, is sacred and it rises through 6 centres of the

parasympathic and ultimately pierces through the fontanel bone area which was a soft bone in your head, on top of your head, when you were a child it was a soft bone. It pierces through that and enters into the subtle energy of all pervading power of divine love. They call it by different names, they call it Paramchaitanya, they call it Chaitanya, some call it as Ruh. You may call it by any name, it is the Love of God. Once you get connected with you, when you start feeling on your fingers some sort of a breeze, first some people will get hot, does not matter, but then it cools down and you get the cool breeze of the Holy Ghost everyone. And it starts

flowing." Shri Mataji Nirmala DeviJuly 14, 2001 - Royal Albert Hall, London, UK"jagbir singh" <adishakti_org Mon May 15, 2006 8:19 am Who are the criminally negligent custodians of Shri Mataji's Message and Will? , "my2pai" <my2paiwrote:>> And yet the supposed custodians of Shri Mataji's Message and,> purportedly, of Shri Mataji's Will, have, with an attitude of> almost criminal negligence,

continually underplayed and> understated the import of the Great Incarnation. While the false> gurus are masquerading as great saints and even incarnations,http://www.divine-mother.org/http://www.divinemother.net/http://www.motherdivine.org/http://www.gurumaa.com/http://www.kashi.org/http://www.tara.org/jetsunma.htmhttp://www.yogachicago.com/may04/karuna.shtmlhttp://www.geocities.com/ascendedmaster/MotherMeera.htmlhttp://www.pathofthemother.com/play3.htmlhttp://www.adidam.org/http://www.narayaniamma.org/http://home.arcor.de/maatrix/amma.htmlhttp://www.karunamayi.org/HB-Home.htmlhttp://www.ammachi.org/http://www.globeworks.com/appaji/http://www.babajiashram.org/http://www.sathyasai.org/http://www.3ho.org/YogiBhajan.htmlhttp://www.siddhayoga.org/shree-muktananda-ashram.htmlhttp://www.ashram.org/http://www.thefamily.org/ourfounder/ourfounder.htmhttp://www.swadhyay.org/http://www.louixdordempriey.com/news.htmlhttp://www.dattapeetham.com/http://www.abo.fi/comprel/joel.htmhttp://www.inricristo.org.br/pg.ingles.htmlhttp://www.kaleshwar.org/en/indexhttp://www.onenessuniversity.org/http://www.miracle.org/http://www.ex-premie.org/http://www.avatarmeherbaba.org/http://unification.org/http://www.narayanipeedam.org/http://www.shantimandir.com/http://www.sripremananda.org/http://www.srcm.org/index.jsphttp://www.ramakrishnananda.com/view.php?page=D2 & Disp=‚> the marketers of Shri Adi Shakti's Incarnation have packaged> Sahaja Yoga as a technique for stress relief and pretend that Shri> Mataji is just an ordinary guru discoursing on the subtle system:> such a grotesque and unconcionable understatement of the greatness> of the Divine Incarnation of Shri Adi Shakti.>Sahaja Yoga is a unique method of meditation based on an experiencecalled Self Realization (Kundalini

awakening) that can occur withineach human being.Through this process an inner transformation takes place by whichone becomes moral, united, integrated and balanced.http://www.sahajayoga.org/http://www.sahajayoga.org/worldwidecontacts/default.aspAll Sahaja Yoga meetings are offered free of charge, usually on aweekly basis. Calling the center located in your country you will beable to get information about the programs which are closest to you.Not all countries are listed - if your country is not on the list,call the number corresponding to the nearest country to find outabout possible local Sahaja Yoga contacts which are not enlistedhere.Algeria (213)21.63.28.40 / msaitchaalalArgentina (54 11) 4863 3291 / sahajayogaargentinaAruba (297) 839 662Australia (61 2) 9416

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dear brothers,sisters andmembers of this group,

I have been reading the posts here for the last months but this last one gave me such a left Sahasrara/left agnya catch when read just the title!

Do you think these posts will help a newcomer?Or will they scare them and send them away from Sahaja Yoga?Also,please,know that you are talking about a council whose Head is Shri Mataji Herself!How can you say words like

>> negativity possessed the leader and the highest members of WCASY ?????Mother is the LEADER!For God's Sake, put a stop to this,it is sacrilige!

 

 

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isaac iba

Thursday, May 25, 2006 6:22 PM

RE: A satanic negativity has possessed our leaders and WCASY council members

 

hello brother jagbir

what can we do for that?i think it is very dangerous for sahaja yoga if the negativity possessed the leader and the highest members of WCASY,according to me, every one have to work himself to grow and to establish a personnel relationship with our HOLLY MOTHER, i also think that WCASY is an other illusion of MAHAMAYa.if we wan to help humanity and sahaja yoga, we have to grow and see SHRI MATAJI in our meditation whose can give us all instructions.you know in my country(cameroon)the problem of leadership have separated our collectif nowaday, we have three collectif and each collectif leader`s claim that he are national leader and we can be unite as children of SHRI MATAJI what can i do?today in WCASY we havent african member what is meaning?is no sahaja yoga in AFRICA?if it that can somebody come and help us to be sahaja yogi?why mother does no come in AFRICA? because of poverty? isaacjagbir singh <adishakti_org a écrit :

To all SYs and seekers of Truth,Perhaps the most famous venue where Shri Mataji talked about the Resurrection and Last Judgment to thousands of complete strangers/public is the Royal Albert Hall, London, UK. i quote Her:"All this is coming because this is the Last Judgment. I have told you, this is the Last Judgment. And this Last Judgment will really decide who are to be saved and who are to be doomed completely. It is a very, very serious thing. All of them who are aware should think about it."She has done so all over the world over the years and decades, time and again exhorting and pleading with humans to transform themselves as the Last Judgment and Resurrection is taking place. However, even as the eleventh hour today ticks on, the criminally negligent custodians of Shri Mataji's Message and Will continue to suppress Her Divine Message. The infamous Inquisytion of WCASY is instead used against those who try to follow Shri Mataji's direction and vision. Yet again i have to repeat that a satanic negativity has possessed our leaders and WCASY council members and they are now actively preventing the rest of humanity from knowing about God Almighty's Last Judgment and Resurrection. A powerful evil force is preventing the culmination of God's Plan by overpowering and possessing our leaders with the fear and apprehension of speaking about the Last Judgment and Resurrection that Shri Mataji repeated hundreds of times. And tens of thousands of SYs influenced by such leaders are following them to spread the false SYSSR!Below is the speech (from which the quote above was taken) given by Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi on July 14, 2001 at the Royal Albert Hall, London, UK. The present-day WCASY council members and leaders should have admonished Shri Mataji for publicly speaking about the Resurrection and Last Judgment in such a prominent venue. However, the Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion is a subtle way of achieving just that behind Shri Mataji's back. Her present incapacitation will only embolden the criminally negligent custodians of Shri Mataji's Message and Will. This forum and the websites are the only obstacles left in their path of complete domination of Shri Mataji's Advent, Vision and Divine Message. We must never waiver or fail in our resolve to defeat this negativity.Jai Shri Ganapathi,jagbir--------"I bow to all the seekers of Truth.Some of you have found the Truth, some of you have not found it fully, and some of you have not found it at all. But if you look around in today's situation, you will have to admit there is a big turmoil going on. Countries after countries are taking to all kinds of wrong things. A lot of cold war is on, people are killing each other, destroying beautiful places, cutting each other's throat for nothing at all. We are all human beings created by God, God Almighty has created them and has brought them to this level of human awareness.At this juncture one can see where are we going in a collective way. This is, where have we to reach or is it our destiny? Is this the destiny of human beings, to be destroyed by each other for land or for anything else? Think of the whole world as one and think what is happening all over. Every day you read newspaper, every day there is some sort of a horrible news about horrible things people are doing to each other for no rhyme or reason. We have to think: what is the destiny, where are we going? Are we going to Hell or to Heaven? What is our situation around? Can you help it?What is wrong with human beings is: they are still in the complete control of ignorance. I would call it ignorance, and in that ignorance, in that darkness, they are doing this horrible thing. Nobody wants to understand that what we are doing is nothing but complete destruction. Is that our destiny? That we are going to get destroyed completely? What good are we doing under the name of some sort of nationality or maybe some religion, all kinds of things which are good. But we are doing all wrong things: fighting. Fighting is not nobility, we hate anybody who can excite our hatred. It is very much, I don't know… very much liked, and under this guidance, we form groups.All this is coming because this is the Last Judgment. I have told you, this is the Last Judgment. And this Last Judgment will really decide who are to be saved and who are to be doomed completely. It is a very, very serious thing. All of them who are aware should think about it. Little patchwork here, and a little patchwork is not going to do. Whatever you may try, unless and until you transform human being, it cannot be saved. This transformation is not an impossible thing, it is not difficult. This is the time for transformation, this is a chance for transformation. And within us it is placed, the power, as power it is described, is the mystical feminine power within us. All of them have written, I am not the first person to say that, but nobody has been able, perhaps so far, to understand it or to accept it that it should happen to you. You are born, not only to be human beings, but you have to be superhuman. You have to enjoy yourself, your life should be enjoyable, it should be blissful. It should not be a curse, morning till evening worried about this, worried about that. That is why you are created, because God had no intention of creating people who will be all the time worried how to quarrel, how to fight, how to save, but people who will live in complete harmony, peace and joy. That is why we are created, that is our destiny. That is not just I am telling you, but it is a fact. So we will have to be, we have to be transformed. This transformation is not difficult, but what I find you could get satisfied with anything. Hindus will go to the temple getting "oh we have done great", Christians go to the church and think they have done very good, Muslims will go and pray and think that they are great. What have they achieved? Face yourselves, please, face your limitations, face your, face your problems and see for yourself: Have you been able to solve your problems? Have you been able to save yourself from calamities? . . I am not only talking, but I want you all to get your self-realization. What is self-realization? It is to know your self. You do not know your self, you do not know. You are living in this world without knowing your self, can you imagine? You do not know what you are, you do not know that you are the Spirit, and that you are the source of knowledge, of pure knowledge. I find people sitting in a meeting listening to some babaji who is telling them some story, very happy. This is not going to give you the reality, and the truth. If you want to have reality and truth, then please try to understand that something has to happen, to you some transformation has to take place. . . . These are emergencies, you are living in very emergent conditions, try to understand. And I want to warn you that if you do not go deep into yourself and find out what you are and take to your transformation, anything is possible: all kinds of diseases happening to you, all kinds of new problems of children coming up, all kinds of national problems are there, all kinds of international problems are there, that people cannot help it. So we have to get out of this and become a solid personality of truth. We don not know what the truth is. We are worse than animals whose eyes are open, while our eyes are closed. It is not to condemn you or anything, but to make you alert and aware that human beings have to change. Otherwise you just, you come to my lecture, tomorrow you will come to another lecture. That is all, it is an everyday, sort of a nice entertainment. But when I see the destiny, I don't know how many will be going, how many will be finished, what will happen to them, what diseases they will get, what problems they will get, what will happen to their children, what will happen to their country, and what will happen with the whole world. Just widen your vision. My vision is that all the people of the world should get transformation. We have enemies within ourselves, and when we talk of jihad we talk that you have to fight your enemies within yourself. What are our enemies? These days the worst is greed, there is greed. With that greed people can do anything they want, all kinds of things are happening out of greed. They will have money, they will have all kinds of facilities, but still this greed is such a satanic thing that you do not even see what you have. And you want to have more and more, deceive people, deceive your ……… , deceive everyone and ……… . You have heard so much about Spirit and Spiritual life. But, have you reached that point? Even when you read zen-system, tao-system, Bible, Koran, anything. Do you know how to reach that point of the Spirit? Not yet, not yet. You have to know that, because you are very great, you are very precious and you are so beautiful within. But you are not aware of it! You have to become that. That becoming is very important. And for that already God Almighty has organised within you, which is called as Kundalini, which can be awakened and its awakening can give you self realisation, can give you self knowledge, as you call atma sakshat. That is what is very, very important in your life to have it, and when it is free, you cannot pay for it. How much can you pay? When it is absolutely free, why don't you take your self realisation? And why don't you grow?. . Mohammed Saab has said clearly: "At the time of resurrection your hands will speak." Are they speaking? Hindus know about it, that we have to get our self realisation. No use just listening to these babajis and giving them money. All this kind of rituals that we are doing, that our forefathers have been doing. What have we achieved? Nothing! So now it is important for us to know that we have to have our evolution reaching to the point of self realisation. If we were perfect, there would have been no problem. If we were self realised people, there would have been no problem. All kinds of selfishness, all kinds of limits we have put around us, all kinds of conditioning and ego, which have been working our life and have been ruling us, we have to get over it. And once you get over it you get united. Nobody has to tell you that you get united. You lose all misidentifications. Your misidentifications are that, that you belong to this country, you belong to this religion, you belong to that. You belong to nothing. You belong to the Kingdom of God. That is what we have to achieve, and you should be one there. But if you like storytelling there is no end to it. But you are wasting your time! The time is running short. I have been now here for the last, I don't know, 20 years or so. I worked very hard, but what I find, that people do not realise what they are supposed to do. They like people who will just say something very simple, or who are to serve visual entertainment. So the whole humanity has to understand that destiny of destruction is to be about today, complete destruction is to be about. And very simple is that you enter into the Kingdom of God, which is very easy, no time to pay anything, you do not have to work out anything. You take your self realisation, and then at home you spend about 10 minutes meditating. Only your mind is all the time justifying your misbehaviour. I call it misbehaviour because it is against the truth, it is against God's wish, it is against humanity, and it will destroy all the good things. All this misidentifications have to be dropped and you have to know that we are all one, we are all one, we are all global, we are not separated by colour, race or religion. We should know we are all one, and that oneness should not be established by slogans or by shouting. What should be that oneness is to be felt within. It is not artificial, it has to be real, very real oneness. And that comes to you once you realise that you are part and parcel of the whole. Religions have brought you up to this point of awareness, not your fighting, not your killing. Why, why human beings have diverted themselves? Because of complete ignorance of righteousness , because of complete greed of oneself, oneself, just yourself, all your family, at the most all your relations. Why do you want to keep it yourself? You are the Spirit. Spirit is the ocean, ocean of knowledge, is the ocean of love, is the ocean of all blessings. So we have to decide. Today I have to request that there is not so much time left. We have to decide that we have to become the Spirit. That is what all the religions have brought, but how to do it was not so very much explained, and it did not work out. Some of them did get it, but they were not trusted, nobody listened to them. Even people killed them and tortured them and crucified them. But now please, all of you, try to understand the value of that ………. Why are you humans? Why are you created? What is the purpose behind this? Are you going to be driven by nonsensical ideas? Are you going to be finished by all sorts of dividing factors? No, no. You are all going to get your self realisation, and you are going to understand the value of your life. The problem is, you will get your realisation in the sense, the power within you will rise. It is very well organised. Actually, God is a great creator, how he has balanced and how it works out is remarkable, every detail He has done it. With that happening, is not sufficient. You enter into, say, a palace and then you go round and see for yourself how beautiful you are, what beautiful things God has made, then grow into it. Once you are grown into it then you will realise what a great thing you are, the greatest gem, the greatest person so loving, that having some writing under statues. Nobody tries to understand what were they doing, how they worked. So, tonight we can have the experience, the experience of the Spirit. It is a very unusual rare thing, never used to have one like that. But it is now, so why not take advantage of it. Please, be ready for that, accept it, take it and become. Becoming is the point. What you become is the point, and what you make out of this whole human civilisation is your problem, not mine. I can help, I can work it out. So I would request you all to now get ready for self realisation. . . . This power Kundalini is placed in the triangular bone, known as sacrum, is sacred and it rises through 6 centres of the parasympathic and ultimately pierces through the fontanel bone area which was a soft bone in your head, on top of your head, when you were a child it was a soft bone. It pierces through that and enters into the subtle energy of all pervading power of divine love. They call it by different names, they call it Paramchaitanya, they call it Chaitanya, some call it as Ruh. You may call it by any name, it is the Love of God. Once you get connected with you, when you start feeling on your fingers some sort of a breeze, first some people will get hot, does not matter, but then it cools down and you get the cool breeze of the Holy Ghost everyone. And it starts flowing." Shri Mataji Nirmala DeviJuly 14, 2001 - Royal Albert Hall, London, UK"jagbir singh" <adishakti_org Mon May 15, 2006 8:19 am Who are the criminally negligent custodians of Shri Mataji's Message and Will? , "my2pai" <my2paiwrote:>> And yet the supposed custodians of Shri Mataji's Message and,> purportedly, of Shri Mataji's Will, have, with an attitude of> almost criminal negligence, continually underplayed and> understated the import of the Great Incarnation. While the false> gurus are masquerading as great saints and even incarnations,http://www.divine-mother.org/http://www.divinemother.net/http://www.motherdivine.org/http://www.gurumaa.com/http://www.kashi.org/http://www.tara.org/jetsunma.htmhttp://www.yogachicago.com/may04/karuna.shtmlhttp://www.geocities.com/ascendedmaster/MotherMeera.htmlhttp://www.pathofthemother.com/play3.htmlhttp://www.adidam.org/http://www.narayaniamma.org/http://home.arcor.de/maatrix/amma.htmlhttp://www.karunamayi.org/HB-Home.htmlhttp://www.ammachi.org/http://www.globeworks.com/appaji/http://www.babajiashram.org/http://www.sathyasai.org/http://www.3ho.org/YogiBhajanhtmlhttp://www.siddhayoga.org/shree-muktananda-ashram.htmlhttp://www.ashram.org/http://www.thefamily.org/ourfounder/ourfounder.htmhttp://www.swadhyay.org/http://www.louixdordempriey.com/news.htmlhttp://www.dattapeetham.com/http://www.abo.fi/comprel/joel.htmhttp://www.inricristo.org.br/pg.ingles.htmlhttp://www.kaleshwar.org/en/indexhttp://www.onenessuniversity.org/http://www.miracle.org/http://www.ex-premie.org/http://www.avatarmeherbaba.org/http://unification.org/http://www.narayanipeedam.org/http://www.shantimandir.com/http://www.sripremananda.org/http://www.srcm.org/index.jsphttp://www.ramakrishnananda.com/view.php?page=D2 & Disp=‚> the marketers of Shri Adi Shakti's Incarnation have packaged> Sahaja Yoga as a technique for stress relief and pretend that Shri> Mataji is just an ordinary guru discoursing on the subtle system:> such a grotesque and unconcionable understatement of the greatness> of the Divine Incarnation of Shri Adi Shakti.>Sahaja Yoga is a unique method of meditation based on an experiencecalled Self Realization (Kundalini awakening) that can occur withineach human being.Through this process an inner transformation takes place by whichone becomes moral, united, integrated and balanced.http://www.sahajayoga.org/http://www.sahajayoga.org/worldwidecontacts/default.aspAll Sahaja Yoga meetings are offered free of charge, usually on aweekly basis. Calling the center located in your country you will beable to get information about the programs which are closest to you.Not all countries are listed - if your country is not on the list,call the number corresponding to the nearest country to find outabout possible local Sahaja Yoga contacts which are not enlistedhere.Algeria (213)21.63.28.40 / msaitchaalalArgentina (54 11) 4863 3291 / sahajayogaargentinaAruba (297) 839 662Australia (61 2) 9416 2373Austria (43 1) 609 11 31Bahrain 00-973-39067465, 00-973-39575301 / kmadhu60,prakashsahajBelarus (7 0172) 62 68 27Belgium (32 83) 21 47 31Benin (229) 21 25 25Bhutan (00975) 2-326460 / rajeshkafleyBolivia (591 42) 47740Bulgaria +359 888 77 58 12Cameroon (237) 22 73 97Canada (1 416) 614-7338 : (1 604) 597-8440Chile (56 2) 2207237 / sahajayogachileColombia (571) 214-3971Cyprus +357 24 639108 / +357 99 832868 / +357 99605826 /innaCzech Republic (420 2) 9972310Denmark 45 38118915 / infoEstonia 37255-640333 / sahaja.yogaFinland (358 9) 855 0934France (33 1) 43 30 57 25Georgia, Republic of (7 8832) 38 95 24Germany (49 3322) 20 88 70Greece (30 1) 822 9262 / innaHong Kong (852) 25045260Hungary (36 1) 218-0493Iceland 00354\8454812 / ritadefruytIndonesia (including East Timor) 62 21 544 6672 /SahajaYogaIndonesiaIreland (Eire) (3531) 282 5542Israel (972 3) 506 1214 / sy_israelItaly (39 744) 919-851Japan (81-3)3469-1027, (81-426)78-2923 / hitoshiiKazakhstan (7 3252) 12 13 68Kenya 254.2.604999 / mowekeKuwait 6134619 / aciyerLatvia (00 371) 9195326, (00 371) 7532656 / sahajayogaLithuania (37 02) 47 81 43Macedonia, Republic of (389 91) 22 62 75Malaysia 603- 6140 3388 or 6012- 273 86 22 /sahajayogamsiaMexico (52 5) 575 1949Moldova +3732 2 73 87 80, 29 46 02 / irinanori,corina1970Nepal (01) 482 735 / sykpNetherlands (31 20) 697-2038New Zealand (64 9) 418 3824Norway (4766) 66915608Peru (Home) 511 264-6800, (Cell) 511 9817-3805 /crramosh, crramosPoland (48 22) 751 3520Portugal (351 1) 396 3149Reunion 0262 412028 / nirmal-runRomania (40 1) 777 7216Russia (7 095) 541 3745 / infoSeychelles (248) 322 743Sierra Leone (232) 25316Singapore (65) 6348 9769 / vigvikasSlovak Republic (Slovakia) (42 17) 54415493Slovenia 386-41-428333South Africa (011) 864 - 3410 / ramoodleySpain (0034) 91 715 8788Sweden +46/8-7610033 / froelenSwitzerland (41 22) 779 20 37Taiwan (886 2) 715 5208Thailand (662) 712 14 18Tunisia (43 1) 381 559Turkey (0090) 212 248 31 22Ukraine (380-44) 442 68 71United Arab Emirates (971) 426 36327United Kingdom (44 181) 930 5621Uruguay (59 82) 60 77 09Zambia (260) 1 291 378So who are the supposed custodians of Shri Mataji's Message and,purportedly, of Shri Mataji's Will, who have, with an attitude ofalmost criminal negligence, continually underplayed and understatedthe import of the Great Incarnation?Rajesh ShahGregoire de KalbermattenDavid SpiroVijay NalgirkarManoj KumarEduardo MarinoWolfgang HacklMajid GolpourPhillip ZeissDerek LeeArneau de KalbermattenNese AlganIvan TanKaran KhuranaAlex HenshawAldo GandolfiRajiv KumarBrian WellsDavid DunphyZafar RashidBohdan ShehovichGagan AhluwaliaPaul EllisAlan WherryAlan PereiraSandeep GadkaryMihaela BalasescuViktor BondarDmitry KorotaevAlexander SolodyankinChris KyriacouAdvisors to the Council:Gagan Ahluwalia: Financial, Accounting and Property mattersPaul Ellis: Legal AffairsAlan Wherry : Publication Issues/message/6157

 

 

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wrote:

 

> " And yet the supposed custodians of Shri Mataji's Message and,

> purportedly, of Shri Mataji's Will, have, with an attitude of

> almost criminal negligence, continually underplayed and

> understated the import of the Great Incarnation. While the false

> gurus are masquerading as great saints and even incarnations. "

 

Dear mprgrandmaster,

 

The above quote reveals the REAL sacrilige. Shri Mataji came on Earth to

introduce us to our Mother Within, who is the Holy Spirit of the Christians, the

Adi Shakti of the Hindus, the Ruh of Allah of the Muslims, the Maitreya of the

Buddhists, the Shekinah in Judaism, the Eykaa Mayee in Sikhism and the Great

Mother in Taoism, however this Message is not getting out to the public-at-large

by the custodians of Her Writings. Being the custodians of Her Writings is not

the same as being the custodians of Her Message. This is maybe where you are

getting a bit mixed-up, and therefore getting a headache.

 

You see, 'leadership' is actually a 'myth', according to Shri Mataji. We are

promoting Shri Mataji on this forum and not WCASY, as WCASY are not 'doing the

right thing' by Shri Mataji. That is why we denounce their actions/inaction. Not

only have they done nothing about Her Real Message, they have edited it and

organized it into a new subtle system religion which they have organized all

SY's to follow in that format. They have created a different Truth, which is

aptly labelled as the Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion.

 

Maybe, now you will understand and it will clear up your confusion. i sure hope

so, because it would be a shame, if you follow the WCASY SYSSR rather than the

Will of Shri Mataji Herself. As already said, WCASY are only the custodians of

Her Literature, they are not the custodians of Shri Mataji's Divine Message

Itself.

 

What i am saying is that WCASY's words are not to be taken in with bated breath

as if they are now the Will of Shri Mataji Herself. However, if you really

believe that they are NOW the Will of Shri Mataji Herself, then you have

misunderstood Shri Mataji's Truth completely, my dear grand master! You cannot

follow God and mammon. Shri Jesus explains this fact:-

 

" No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the

other, or he will hold to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and

mammon. " (Matthew 6:24)

 

You see, to 'put it personally', the Holy Spirit Within cannot be my master, if

i allow WCASY to be my master. If i allowed WCASY to be my master, and if Jagbir

allowed WCASY to be his master, you would not have one forum even telling Her

Divine Message to the world. It would only be a subtle system message. Maybe,

you can now see more clearly, and i hope that headache can now clear.

 

Because i can tell you....that if you follow WCASY's word, then you are in

trouble, for you will never be your own teacher, guru, or even grand master

then!

 

i hope this helps,

 

violet

 

, " Jai Shri Mataji "

<mprgrandmaster wrote:

>

> Jai Shri Mataji!

> dear brothers,sisters andmembers of this group,

> I have been reading the posts here for the last months but this last

one gave me such a left Sahasrara/left agnya catch when read just the

title!

> Do you think these posts will help a newcomer?Or will they scare

them and send them away from Sahaja Yoga?Also,please,know that you are

talking about a council whose Head is Shri Mataji Herself!How can you

say words like

> >> negativity possessed the leader and the highest members of WCASY

?????Mother is the LEADER!For God's Sake, put a stop to this,it is

sacrilige!

>

> -

> isaac iba

>

> Thursday, May 25, 2006 6:22 PM

> RE: A satanic negativity has

possessed our leaders and WCASY council members

>

>

> hello brother jagbir

> what can we do for that?i think it is very dangerous for sahaja

yoga if the negativity possessed the leader and the highest members of

WCASY,according to me, every one have to work himself to grow and to

establish a personnel relationship with our HOLLY MOTHER, i also think

that WCASY is an other illusion of MAHAMAYa.if we wan to help humanity

and sahaja yoga, we have to grow and see SHRI MATAJI in our meditation

whose can give us all instructions.you know in my country(cameroon)the

problem of leadership have separated our collectif nowaday, we have

three collectif and each collectif leader`s claim that he are national

leader and we can be unite as children of SHRI MATAJI what can i do?

today in WCASY we havent african member what is meaning?is no sahaja

yoga in AFRICA?if it that can somebody come and help us to be sahaja

yogi?why mother does no come in AFRICA? because of poverty? isaac

>

> jagbir singh <adishakti_org a écrit :

> To all SYs and seekers of Truth,

>

> Perhaps the most famous venue where Shri Mataji talked about the

> Resurrection and Last Judgment to thousands of complete

strangers/

> public is the Royal Albert Hall, London, UK. i quote Her:

>

> " All this is coming because this is the Last Judgment. I have

told

> you, this is the Last Judgment. And this Last Judgment will

really

> decide who are to be saved and who are to be doomed completely.

It

> is a very, very serious thing. All of them who are aware should

> think about it. "

>

> She has done so all over the world over the years and decades,

time

> and again exhorting and pleading with humans to transform

themselves

> as the Last Judgment and Resurrection is taking place.

>

> However, even as the eleventh hour today ticks on, the

criminally

> negligent custodians of Shri Mataji's Message and Will continue

to

> suppress Her Divine Message. The infamous Inquisytion of WCASY

is

> instead used against those who try to follow Shri Mataji's

direction

> and vision. Yet again i have to repeat that a satanic negativity

has

> possessed our leaders and WCASY council members and they are now

> actively preventing the rest of humanity from knowing about God

> Almighty's Last Judgment and Resurrection. A powerful evil force

is

> preventing the culmination of God's Plan by overpowering and

> possessing our leaders with the fear and apprehension of

speaking

> about the Last Judgment and Resurrection that Shri Mataji

repeated

> hundreds of times. And tens of thousands of SYs influenced by

such

> leaders are following them to spread the false SYSSR!

>

> Below is the speech (from which the quote above was taken) given

by

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi on July 14, 2001 at the Royal Albert

Hall,

> London, UK. The present-day WCASY council members and leaders

should

> have admonished Shri Mataji for publicly speaking about the

> Resurrection and Last Judgment in such a prominent venue.

However,

> the Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion is a subtle way of

achieving

> just that behind Shri Mataji's back. Her present incapacitation

will

> only embolden the criminally negligent custodians of Shri

Mataji's

> Message and Will. This forum and the websites are the only

obstacles

> left in their path of complete domination of Shri Mataji's

Advent,

> Vision and Divine Message. We must never waiver or fail in our

> resolve to defeat this negativity.

>

> Jai Shri Ganapathi,

>

>

> jagbir

>

>

>

> --------

>

>

> " I bow to all the seekers of Truth.

>

> Some of you have found the Truth, some of you have not found it

> fully, and some of you have not found it at all. But if you look

> around in today's situation, you will have to admit there is a

big

> turmoil going on. Countries after countries are taking to all

kinds

> of wrong things. A lot of cold war is on, people are killing

each

> other, destroying beautiful places, cutting each other's throat

for

> nothing at all. We are all human beings created by God, God

Almighty

> has created them and has brought them to this level of human

> awareness.

>

> At this juncture one can see where are we going in a collective

way.

> This is, where have we to reach or is it our destiny? Is this

the

> destiny of human beings, to be destroyed by each other for land

or

> for anything else? Think of the whole world as one and think

what is

> happening all over. Every day you read newspaper, every day

there is

> some sort of a horrible news about horrible things people are

doing

> to each other for no rhyme or reason. We have to think: what is

the

> destiny, where are we going? Are we going to Hell or to Heaven?

What

> is our situation around? Can you help it?

>

> What is wrong with human beings is: they are still in the

complete

> control of ignorance. I would call it ignorance, and in that

> ignorance, in that darkness, they are doing this horrible thing.

> Nobody wants to understand that what we are doing is nothing but

> complete destruction. Is that our destiny? That we are going to

get

> destroyed completely? What good are we doing under the name of

some

> sort of nationality or maybe some religion, all kinds of things

> which are good. But we are doing all wrong things: fighting.

> Fighting is not nobility, we hate anybody who can excite our

hatred.

> It is very much, I don't know. very much liked, and under this

> guidance, we form groups.

>

> All this is coming because this is the Last Judgment. I have

told

> you, this is the Last Judgment. And this Last Judgment will

really

> decide who are to be saved and who are to be doomed completely.

It

> is a very, very serious thing. All of them who are aware should

> think about it. Little patchwork here, and a little patchwork is

not

> going to do. Whatever you may try, unless and until you

transform

> human being, it cannot be saved. This transformation is not an

> impossible thing, it is not difficult. This is the time for

> transformation, this is a chance for transformation. And within

us

> it is placed, the power, as power it is described, is the

mystical

> feminine power within us. All of them have written, I am not the

> first person to say that, but nobody has been able, perhaps so

far,

> to understand it or to accept it that it should happen to you.

> You are born, not only to be human beings, but you have to be

> superhuman. You have to enjoy yourself, your life should be

> enjoyable, it should be blissful. It should not be a curse,

morning

> till evening worried about this, worried about that. That is why

you

> are created, because God had no intention of creating people who

> will be all the time worried how to quarrel, how to fight, how

to

> save, but people who will live in complete harmony, peace and

joy.

> That is why we are created, that is our destiny. That is not

just I

> am telling you, but it is a fact.

>

> So we will have to be, we have to be transformed. This

> transformation is not difficult, but what I find you could get

> satisfied with anything. Hindus will go to the temple getting

" oh we

> have done great " , Christians go to the church and think they

have

> done very good, Muslims will go and pray and think that they are

> great. What have they achieved?

>

> Face yourselves, please, face your limitations, face your, face

your

> problems and see for yourself: Have you been able to solve your

> problems? Have you been able to save yourself from calamities? .

. .

> I am not only talking, but I want you all to get your self-

> realization. What is self-realization? It is to know your self.

You

> do not know your self, you do not know. You are living in this

world

> without knowing your self, can you imagine? You do not know what

you

> are, you do not know that you are the Spirit, and that you are

the

> source of knowledge, of pure knowledge. I find people sitting in

a

> meeting listening to some babaji who is telling them some story,

> very happy. This is not going to give you the reality, and the

> truth. If you want to have reality and truth, then please try to

> understand that something has to happen, to you some

transformation

> has to take place. . . .

>

> These are emergencies, you are living in very emergent

conditions,

> try to understand. And I want to warn you that if you do not go

deep

> into yourself and find out what you are and take to your

> transformation, anything is possible: all kinds of diseases

> happening to you, all kinds of new problems of children coming

up,

> all kinds of national problems are there, all kinds of

international

> problems are there, that people cannot help it. So we have to

get

> out of this and become a solid personality of truth.

>

> We don not know what the truth is. We are worse than animals

whose

> eyes are open, while our eyes are closed. It is not to condemn

you

> or anything, but to make you alert and aware that human beings

have

> to change. Otherwise you just, you come to my lecture, tomorrow

you

> will come to another lecture. That is all, it is an everyday,

sort

> of a nice entertainment. But when I see the destiny, I don't

know

> how many will be going, how many will be finished, what will

happen

> to them, what diseases they will get, what problems they will

get,

> what will happen to their children, what will happen to their

> country, and what will happen with the whole world. Just widen

your

> vision. My vision is that all the people of the world should get

> transformation. We have enemies within ourselves, and when we

talk

> of jihad we talk that you have to fight your enemies within

> yourself. What are our enemies?

>

> These days the worst is greed, there is greed. With that greed

> people can do anything they want, all kinds of things are

happening

> out of greed. They will have money, they will have all kinds of

> facilities, but still this greed is such a satanic thing that

you do

> not even see what you have. And you want to have more and more,

> deceive people, deceive your ... , deceive everyone and ... .

> You have heard so much about Spirit and Spiritual life. But,

have

> you reached that point? Even when you read zen-system, tao-

system,

> Bible, Koran, anything. Do you know how to reach that point of

the

> Spirit? Not yet, not yet. You have to know that, because you are

> very great, you are very precious and you are so beautiful

within.

> But you are not aware of it! You have to become that. That

becoming

> is very important. And for that already God Almighty has

organised

> within you, which is called as Kundalini, which can be awakened

and

> its awakening can give you self realisation, can give you self

> knowledge, as you call atma sakshat. That is what is very, very

> important in your life to have it, and when it is free, you

cannot

> pay for it. How much can you pay? When it is absolutely free,

why

> don't you take your self realisation? And why don't you grow?. .

.

> Mohammed Saab has said clearly: " At the time of resurrection

your

> hands will speak. " Are they speaking?

>

> Hindus know about it, that we have to get our self realisation.

No

> use just listening to these babajis and giving them money. All

this

> kind of rituals that we are doing, that our forefathers have

been

> doing. What have we achieved? Nothing!

>

> So now it is important for us to know that we have to have our

> evolution reaching to the point of self realisation. If we were

> perfect, there would have been no problem. If we were self

realised

> people, there would have been no problem. All kinds of

selfishness,

> all kinds of limits we have put around us, all kinds of

conditioning

> and ego, which have been working our life and have been ruling

us,

> we have to get over it. And once you get over it you get united.

> Nobody has to tell you that you get united. You lose all

> misidentifications. Your misidentifications are that, that you

> belong to this country, you belong to this religion, you belong

to

> that. You belong to nothing. You belong to the Kingdom of God.

That

> is what we have to achieve, and you should be one there. But if

you

> like storytelling there is no end to it.

>

> But you are wasting your time! The time is running short. I have

> been now here for the last, I don't know, 20 years or so. I

worked

> very hard, but what I find, that people do not realise what they

are

> supposed to do. They like people who will just say something

very

> simple, or who are to serve visual entertainment. So the whole

> humanity has to understand that destiny of destruction is to be

> about today, complete destruction is to be about. And very

simple is

> that you enter into the Kingdom of God, which is very easy, no

time

> to pay anything, you do not have to work out anything. You take

your

> self realisation, and then at home you spend about 10 minutes

> meditating. Only your mind is all the time justifying your

> misbehaviour. I call it misbehaviour because it is against the

> truth, it is against God's wish, it is against humanity, and it

will

> destroy all the good things.

>

> All this misidentifications have to be dropped and you have to

know

> that we are all one, we are all one, we are all global, we are

not

> separated by colour, race or religion. We should know we are all

> one, and that oneness should not be established by slogans or by

> shouting. What should be that oneness is to be felt within. It

is

> not artificial, it has to be real, very real oneness. And that

comes

> to you once you realise that you are part and parcel of the

whole.

> Religions have brought you up to this point of awareness, not

your

> fighting, not your killing. Why, why human beings have diverted

> themselves? Because of complete ignorance of righteousness ,

because

> of complete greed of oneself, oneself, just yourself, all your

> family, at the most all your relations. Why do you want to keep

it

> yourself? You are the Spirit. Spirit is the ocean, ocean of

> knowledge, is the ocean of love, is the ocean of all blessings.

> So we have to decide. Today I have to request that there is not

so

> much time left. We have to decide that we have to become the

Spirit.

> That is what all the religions have brought, but how to do it

was

> not so very much explained, and it did not work out. Some of

them

> did get it, but they were not trusted, nobody listened to them.

Even

> people killed them and tortured them and crucified them. But now

> please, all of you, try to understand the value of that .... Why

are

> you humans? Why are you created? What is the purpose behind

this?

> Are you going to be driven by nonsensical ideas? Are you going

to be

> finished by all sorts of dividing factors? No, no. You are all

going

> to get your self realisation, and you are going to understand

the

> value of your life.

>

> The problem is, you will get your realisation in the sense, the

> power within you will rise. It is very well organised. Actually,

God

> is a great creator, how he has balanced and how it works out is

> remarkable, every detail He has done it. With that happening, is

not

> sufficient. You enter into, say, a palace and then you go round

and

> see for yourself how beautiful you are, what beautiful things

God

> has made, then grow into it. Once you are grown into it then you

> will realise what a great thing you are, the greatest gem, the

> greatest person so loving, that having some writing under

statues.

> Nobody tries to understand what were they doing, how they

worked.

> So, tonight we can have the experience, the experience of the

> Spirit. It is a very unusual rare thing, never used to have one

like

> that. But it is now, so why not take advantage of it. Please, be

> ready for that, accept it, take it and become. Becoming is the

> point. What you become is the point, and what you make out of

this

> whole human civilisation is your problem, not mine. I can help,

I

> can work it out.

>

> So I would request you all to now get ready for self

> realisation. . . .

>

> This power Kundalini is placed in the triangular bone, known as

> sacrum, is sacred and it rises through 6 centres of the

> parasympathic and ultimately pierces through the fontanel bone

area

> which was a soft bone in your head, on top of your head, when

you

> were a child it was a soft bone. It pierces through that and

enters

> into the subtle energy of all pervading power of divine love.

They

> call it by different names, they call it Paramchaitanya, they

call

> it Chaitanya, some call it as Ruh. You may call it by any name,

it

> is the Love of God. Once you get connected with you, when you

start

> feeling on your fingers some sort of a breeze, first some people

> will get hot, does not matter, but then it cools down and you

get

> the cool breeze of the Holy Ghost everyone. And it starts

flowing. "

>

 

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> July 14, 2001 - Royal Albert Hall, London, UK

>

>

> " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org

> Mon May 15, 2006 8:19 am

> Who are the criminally negligent custodians of Shri

> Mataji's Message and Will?

>

> , " my2pai " <my2pai@>

> wrote:

> >

> > And yet the supposed custodians of Shri Mataji's Message and,

> > purportedly, of Shri Mataji's Will, have, with an attitude of

> > almost criminal negligence, continually underplayed and

> > understated the import of the Great Incarnation. While the

false

> > gurus are masquerading as great saints and even incarnations,

>

> http://www.divine-mother.org/

> http://www.divinemother.net/

> http://www.motherdivine.org/

> http://www.gurumaa.com/

> http://www.kashi.org/

> http://www.tara.org/jetsunma.htm

> http://www.yogachicago.com/may04/karuna.shtml

> http://www.geocities.com/ascendedmaster/MotherMeera.html

> http://www.pathofthemother.com/play3.html

> http://www.adidam.org/

> http://www.narayaniamma.org/

> http://home.arcor.de/maatrix/amma.html

> http://www.karunamayi.org/HB-Home.html

> http://www.ammachi.org/

> http://www.globeworks.com/appaji/

> http://www.babajiashram.org/

> http://www.sathyasai.org/

> http://www.3ho.org/YogiBhajan.html

> http://www.siddhayoga.org/shree-muktananda-ashram.html

> http://www.ashram.org/

> http://www.thefamily.org/ourfounder/ourfounder.htm

> http://www.swadhyay.org/

> http://www.louixdordempriey.com/news.html

> http://www.dattapeetham.com/

> http://www.abo.fi/comprel/joel.htm

> http://www.inricristo.org.br/pg.ingles.html

> http://www.kaleshwar.org/en/index

> http://www.onenessuniversity.org/

> http://www.miracle.org/

> http://www.ex-premie.org/

> http://www.avatarmeherbaba.org/

> http://unification.org/

> http://www.narayanipeedam.org/

> http://www.shantimandir.com/

> http://www.sripremananda.org/

> http://www.srcm.org/index.jsp

> http://www.ramakrishnananda.com/view.php?page=D2 & Disp=,

>

>

> > the marketers of Shri Adi Shakti's Incarnation have packaged

> > Sahaja Yoga as a technique for stress relief and pretend that

Shri

> > Mataji is just an ordinary guru discoursing on the subtle

system:

> > such a grotesque and unconcionable understatement of the

greatness

> > of the Divine Incarnation of Shri Adi Shakti.

> >

>

> Sahaja Yoga is a unique method of meditation based on an

experience

> called Self Realization (Kundalini awakening) that can occur

within

> each human being.

>

> Through this process an inner transformation takes place by

which

> one becomes moral, united, integrated and balanced.

>

> http://www.sahajayoga.org/

> http://www.sahajayoga.org/worldwidecontacts/default.asp

>

> All Sahaja Yoga meetings are offered free of charge, usually on

a

> weekly basis. Calling the center located in your country you

will be

> able to get information about the programs which are closest to

you.

> Not all countries are listed - if your country is not on the

list,

> call the number corresponding to the nearest country to find out

> about possible local Sahaja Yoga contacts which are not enlisted

> here.

>

> Algeria (213)21.63.28.40 / msaitchaalal

> Argentina (54 11) 4863 3291 / sahajayogaargentina

> Aruba (297) 839 662

> Australia (61 2) 9416 2373

> Austria (43 1) 609 11 31

> Bahrain 00-973-39067465, 00-973-39575301 / kmadhu60,

> prakashsahaj

> Belarus (7 0172) 62 68 27

> Belgium (32 83) 21 47 31

> Benin (229) 21 25 25

> Bhutan (00975) 2-326460 / rajeshkafley

> Bolivia (591 42) 47740

> Bulgaria +359 888 77 58 12

> Cameroon (237) 22 73 97

> Canada (1 416) 614-7338 : (1 604) 597-8440

> Chile (56 2) 2207237 / sahajayogachile

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> Cyprus +357 24 639108 / +357 99 832868 / +357 99605826 /

> inna

> Czech Republic (420 2) 9972310

> Denmark 45 38118915 / info

> Estonia 37255-640333 / sahaja.yoga

> Finland (358 9) 855 0934

> France (33 1) 43 30 57 25

> Georgia, Republic of (7 8832) 38 95 24

> Germany (49 3322) 20 88 70

> Greece (30 1) 822 9262 / inna

> Hong Kong (852) 25045260

> Hungary (36 1) 218-0493

> Iceland 00354\8454812 / ritadefruyt

> Indonesia (including East Timor) 62 21 544 6672 /

> SahajaYogaIndonesia

> Ireland (Eire) (3531) 282 5542

> Israel (972 3) 506 1214 / sy_israel

> Italy (39 744) 919-851

> Japan (81-3)3469-1027, (81-426)78-2923 / hitoshii

> Kazakhstan (7 3252) 12 13 68

> Kenya 254.2.604999 / moweke

> Kuwait 6134619 / aciyer

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> Lithuania (37 02) 47 81 43

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> Malaysia 603- 6140 3388 or 6012- 273 86 22 /

> sahajayogamsia

> Mexico (52 5) 575 1949

> Moldova +3732 2 73 87 80, 29 46 02 / irinanori,

> corina1970

> Nepal (01) 482 735 / sykp

> Netherlands (31 20) 697-2038

> New Zealand (64 9) 418 3824

> Norway (4766) 66915608

> Peru (Home) 511 264-6800, (Cell) 511 9817-3805 /

> crramosh, crramos

> Poland (48 22) 751 3520

> Portugal (351 1) 396 3149

> Reunion 0262 412028 / nirmal-run

> Romania (40 1) 777 7216

> Russia (7 095) 541 3745 / info

> Seychelles (248) 322 743

> Sierra Leone (232) 25316

> Singapore (65) 6348 9769 / vigvikas

> Slovak Republic (Slovakia) (42 17) 54415493

> Slovenia 386-41-428333

> South Africa (011) 864 - 3410 / ramoodley

> Spain (0034) 91 715 8788

> Sweden +46/8-7610033 / froelen

> Switzerland (41 22) 779 20 37

> Taiwan (886 2) 715 5208

> Thailand (662) 712 14 18

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> United Arab Emirates (971) 426 36327

> United Kingdom (44 181) 930 5621

> Uruguay (59 82) 60 77 09

> Zambia (260) 1 291 378

>

>

> So who are the supposed custodians of Shri Mataji's Message and,

> purportedly, of Shri Mataji's Will, who have, with an attitude

of

> almost criminal negligence, continually underplayed and

understated

> the import of the Great Incarnation?

>

>

> Rajesh Shah

> Gregoire de Kalbermatten

> David Spiro

> Vijay Nalgirkar

> Manoj Kumar

> Eduardo Marino

> Wolfgang Hackl

> Majid Golpour

> Phillip Zeiss

> Derek Lee

> Arneau de Kalbermatten

> Nese Algan

> Ivan Tan

> Karan Khurana

> Alex Henshaw

> Aldo Gandolfi

> Rajiv Kumar

> Brian Wells

> David Dunphy

> Zafar Rashid

> Bohdan Shehovich

> Gagan Ahluwalia

> Paul Ellis

> Alan Wherry

> Alan Pereira

> Sandeep Gadkary

> Mihaela Balasescu

> Viktor Bondar

> Dmitry Korotaev

> Alexander Solodyankin

> Chris Kyriacou

> Advisors to the Council:

>

> Gagan Ahluwalia: Financial, Accounting and Property matters

> Paul Ellis: Legal Affairs

> Alan Wherry : Publication Issues

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Jai Shri Mataji!Dear Violet ,

Thanks for the reply.

I see your point but I just say that when mther is formaly the Head of WCASY, we cannot say anything against WCASY . We may only say about the human members of it and mistakes they are doing in preserving the Divine Messege of Mother.

My only Will is to be the Instrument of Mothers Will.My deepest disire is to act,think,live and feel so that She casts a sweet smile upon me and sheds a tear out of Her Love and Pleasure for me.May Her Teachings Prevail!Amen!

 

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Violet

Friday, May 26, 2006 1:29 AM

Re: A satanic negativity has possessed our leaders and WCASY council members

, "my2pai" <my2paiwrote:> "And yet the supposed custodians of Shri Mataji's Message and,> purportedly, of Shri Mataji's Will, have, with an attitude of> almost criminal negligence, continually underplayed and> understated the import of the Great Incarnation. While the false> gurus are masquerading as great saints and even incarnations."Dear mprgrandmaster,The above quote reveals the REAL sacrilige. Shri Mataji came on Earth to introduce us to our Mother Within, who is the Holy Spirit of the Christians, the Adi Shakti of the Hindus, the Ruh of Allah of the Muslims, the Maitreya of the Buddhists, the Shekinah in Judaism, the Eykaa Mayee in Sikhism and the Great Mother in Taoism, however this Message is not getting out to the public-at-large by the custodians of Her Writings. Being the custodians of Her Writings is not the same as being the custodians of Her Message. This is maybe where you are getting a bit mixed-up, and therefore getting a headache.You see, 'leadership' is actually a 'myth', according to Shri Mataji. We are promoting Shri Mataji on this forum and not WCASY, as WCASY are not 'doing the right thing' by Shri Mataji. That is why we denounce their actions/inaction. Not only have they done nothing about Her Real Message, they have edited it and organized it into a new subtle system religion which they have organized all SY's to follow in that format. They have created a different Truth, which is aptly labelled as the Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion. Maybe, now you will understand and it will clear up your confusion. i sure hope so, because it would be a shame, if you follow the WCASY SYSSR rather than the Will of Shri Mataji Herself. As already said, WCASY are only the custodians of Her Literature, they are not the custodians of Shri Mataji's Divine Message Itself. What i am saying is that WCASY's words are not to be taken in with bated breath as if they are now the Will of Shri Mataji Herself. However, if you really believe that they are NOW the Will of Shri Mataji Herself, then you have misunderstood Shri Mataji's Truth completely, my dear grand master! You cannot follow God and mammon. Shri Jesus explains this fact:-"No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will hold to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon." (Matthew 6:24)You see, to 'put it personally', the Holy Spirit Within cannot be my master, if i allow WCASY to be my master. If i allowed WCASY to be my master, and if Jagbir allowed WCASY to be his master, you would not have one forum even telling Her Divine Message to the world. It would only be a subtle system message. Maybe, you can now see more clearly, and i hope that headache can now clear.Because i can tell you....that if you follow WCASY's word, then you are in trouble, for you will never be your own teacher, guru, or even grand master then!i hope this helps,violet , "Jai Shri Mataji" <mprgrandmaster wrote:>> Jai Shri Mataji!> dear brothers,sisters andmembers of this group,> I have been reading the posts here for the last months but this last one gave me such a left Sahasrara/left agnya catch when read just the title!> Do you think these posts will help a newcomer?Or will they scare them and send them away from Sahaja Yoga?Also,please,know that you are talking about a council whose Head is Shri Mataji Herself!How can you say words like > >> negativity possessed the leader and the highest members of WCASY ?????Mother is the LEADER!For God's Sake, put a stop to this,it is sacrilige!> > - > isaac iba > > Thursday, May 25, 2006 6:22 PM> RE: A satanic negativity has possessed our leaders and WCASY council members> > > hello brother jagbir > what can we do for that?i think it is very dangerous for sahaja yoga if the negativity possessed the leader and the highest members of WCASY,according to me, every one have to work himself to grow and to establish a personnel relationship with our HOLLY MOTHER, i also think that WCASY is an other illusion of MAHAMAYa.if we wan to help humanity and sahaja yoga, we have to grow and see SHRI MATAJI in our meditation whose can give us all instructions.you know in my country(cameroon)the problem of leadership have separated our collectif nowaday, we have three collectif and each collectif leader`s claim that he are national leader and we can be unite as children of SHRI MATAJI what can i do?today in WCASY we havent african member what is meaning?is no sahaja yoga in AFRICA?if it that can somebody come and help us to be sahaja yogi?why mother does no come in AFRICA? because of poverty? isaac> > jagbir singh <adishakti_org a écrit :> To all SYs and seekers of Truth,> > Perhaps the most famous venue where Shri Mataji talked about the > Resurrection and Last Judgment to thousands of complete strangers/> public is the Royal Albert Hall, London, UK. i quote Her:> > "All this is coming because this is the Last Judgment. I have told > you, this is the Last Judgment. And this Last Judgment will really > decide who are to be saved and who are to be doomed completely. It > is a very, very serious thing. All of them who are aware should > think about it."> > She has done so all over the world over the years and decades, time > and again exhorting and pleading with humans to transform themselves > as the Last Judgment and Resurrection is taking place. > > However, even as the eleventh hour today ticks on, the criminally > negligent custodians of Shri Mataji's Message and Will continue to > suppress Her Divine Message. The infamous Inquisytion of WCASY is > instead used against those who try to follow Shri Mataji's direction > and vision. Yet again i have to repeat that a satanic negativity has > possessed our leaders and WCASY council members and they are now > actively preventing the rest of humanity from knowing about God > Almighty's Last Judgment and Resurrection. A powerful evil force is > preventing the culmination of God's Plan by overpowering and > possessing our leaders with the fear and apprehension of speaking > about the Last Judgment and Resurrection that Shri Mataji repeated > hundreds of times. And tens of thousands of SYs influenced by such > leaders are following them to spread the false SYSSR!> > Below is the speech (from which the quote above was taken) given by > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi on July 14, 2001 at the Royal Albert Hall, > London, UK. The present-day WCASY council members and leaders should > have admonished Shri Mataji for publicly speaking about the > Resurrection and Last Judgment in such a prominent venue. However, > the Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion is a subtle way of achieving > just that behind Shri Mataji's back. Her present incapacitation will > only embolden the criminally negligent custodians of Shri Mataji's > Message and Will. This forum and the websites are the only obstacles > left in their path of complete domination of Shri Mataji's Advent, > Vision and Divine Message. We must never waiver or fail in our > resolve to defeat this negativity.> > Jai Shri Ganapathi,> > > jagbir> > > > --------> > > "I bow to all the seekers of Truth.> > Some of you have found the Truth, some of you have not found it > fully, and some of you have not found it at all. But if you look > around in today's situation, you will have to admit there is a big > turmoil going on. Countries after countries are taking to all kinds > of wrong things. A lot of cold war is on, people are killing each > other, destroying beautiful places, cutting each other's throat for > nothing at all. We are all human beings created by God, God Almighty > has created them and has brought them to this level of human > awareness.> > At this juncture one can see where are we going in a collective way. > This is, where have we to reach or is it our destiny? Is this the > destiny of human beings, to be destroyed by each other for land or > for anything else? Think of the whole world as one and think what is > happening all over. Every day you read newspaper, every day there is > some sort of a horrible news about horrible things people are doing > to each other for no rhyme or reason. We have to think: what is the > destiny, where are we going? Are we going to Hell or to Heaven? What > is our situation around? Can you help it?> > What is wrong with human beings is: they are still in the complete > control of ignorance. I would call it ignorance, and in that > ignorance, in that darkness, they are doing this horrible thing. > Nobody wants to understand that what we are doing is nothing but > complete destruction. Is that our destiny? That we are going to get > destroyed completely? What good are we doing under the name of some > sort of nationality or maybe some religion, all kinds of things > which are good. But we are doing all wrong things: fighting. > Fighting is not nobility, we hate anybody who can excite our hatred. > It is very much, I don't know. very much liked, and under this > guidance, we form groups.> > All this is coming because this is the Last Judgment. I have told > you, this is the Last Judgment. And this Last Judgment will really > decide who are to be saved and who are to be doomed completely. It > is a very, very serious thing. All of them who are aware should > think about it. Little patchwork here, and a little patchwork is not > going to do. Whatever you may try, unless and until you transform > human being, it cannot be saved. This transformation is not an > impossible thing, it is not difficult. This is the time for > transformation, this is a chance for transformation. And within us > it is placed, the power, as power it is described, is the mystical > feminine power within us. All of them have written, I am not the > first person to say that, but nobody has been able, perhaps so far, > to understand it or to accept it that it should happen to you. > You are born, not only to be human beings, but you have to be > superhuman. You have to enjoy yourself, your life should be > enjoyable, it should be blissful. It should not be a curse, morning > till evening worried about this, worried about that. That is why you > are created, because God had no intention of creating people who > will be all the time worried how to quarrel, how to fight, how to > save, but people who will live in complete harmony, peace and joy. > That is why we are created, that is our destiny. That is not just I > am telling you, but it is a fact. > > So we will have to be, we have to be transformed. This > transformation is not difficult, but what I find you could get > satisfied with anything. Hindus will go to the temple getting "oh we > have done great", Christians go to the church and think they have > done very good, Muslims will go and pray and think that they are > great. What have they achieved? > > Face yourselves, please, face your limitations, face your, face your > problems and see for yourself: Have you been able to solve your > problems? Have you been able to save yourself from calamities? .. . > I am not only talking, but I want you all to get your self-> realization. What is self-realization? It is to know your self. You > do not know your self, you do not know. You are living in this world > without knowing your self, can you imagine? You do not know what you > are, you do not know that you are the Spirit, and that you are the > source of knowledge, of pure knowledge. I find people sitting in a > meeting listening to some babaji who is telling them some story, > very happy. This is not going to give you the reality, and the > truth. If you want to have reality and truth, then please try to > understand that something has to happen, to you some transformation > has to take place. . . . > > These are emergencies, you are living in very emergent conditions, > try to understand. And I want to warn you that if you do not go deep > into yourself and find out what you are and take to your > transformation, anything is possible: all kinds of diseases > happening to you, all kinds of new problems of children coming up, > all kinds of national problems are there, all kinds of international > problems are there, that people cannot help it. So we have to get > out of this and become a solid personality of truth. > > We don not know what the truth is. We are worse than animals whose > eyes are open, while our eyes are closed. It is not to condemn you > or anything, but to make you alert and aware that human beings have > to change. Otherwise you just, you come to my lecture, tomorrow you > will come to another lecture. That is all, it is an everyday, sort > of a nice entertainment. But when I see the destiny, I don't know > how many will be going, how many will be finished, what will happen > to them, what diseases they will get, what problems they will get, > what will happen to their children, what will happen to their > country, and what will happen with the whole world. Just widen your > vision. My vision is that all the people of the world should get > transformation. We have enemies within ourselves, and when we talk > of jihad we talk that you have to fight your enemies within > yourself. What are our enemies? > > These days the worst is greed, there is greed. With that greed > people can do anything they want, all kinds of things are happening > out of greed. They will have money, they will have all kinds of > facilities, but still this greed is such a satanic thing that you do > not even see what you have. And you want to have more and more, > deceive people, deceive your ... , deceive everyone and ... . > You have heard so much about Spirit and Spiritual life. But, have > you reached that point? Even when you read zen-system, tao-system, > Bible, Koran, anything. Do you know how to reach that point of the > Spirit? Not yet, not yet. You have to know that, because you are > very great, you are very precious and you are so beautiful within. > But you are not aware of it! You have to become that. That becoming > is very important. And for that already God Almighty has organised > within you, which is called as Kundalini, which can be awakened and > its awakening can give you self realisation, can give you self > knowledge, as you call atma sakshat. That is what is very, very > important in your life to have it, and when it is free, you cannot > pay for it. How much can you pay? When it is absolutely free, why > don't you take your self realisation? And why don't you grow?. .. > Mohammed Saab has said clearly: "At the time of resurrection your > hands will speak." Are they speaking? > > Hindus know about it, that we have to get our self realisation. No > use just listening to these babajis and giving them money. All this > kind of rituals that we are doing, that our forefathers have been > doing. What have we achieved? Nothing! > > So now it is important for us to know that we have to have our > evolution reaching to the point of self realisation. If we were > perfect, there would have been no problem. If we were self realised > people, there would have been no problem. All kinds of selfishness, > all kinds of limits we have put around us, all kinds of conditioning > and ego, which have been working our life and have been ruling us, > we have to get over it. And once you get over it you get united. > Nobody has to tell you that you get united. You lose all > misidentifications. Your misidentifications are that, that you > belong to this country, you belong to this religion, you belong to > that. You belong to nothing. You belong to the Kingdom of God. That > is what we have to achieve, and you should be one there. But if you > like storytelling there is no end to it. > > But you are wasting your time! The time is running short. I have > been now here for the last, I don't know, 20 years or so. I worked > very hard, but what I find, that people do not realise what they are > supposed to do. They like people who will just say something very > simple, or who are to serve visual entertainment. So the whole > humanity has to understand that destiny of destruction is to be > about today, complete destruction is to be about. And very simple is > that you enter into the Kingdom of God, which is very easy, no time > to pay anything, you do not have to work out anything. You take your > self realisation, and then at home you spend about 10 minutes > meditating. Only your mind is all the time justifying your > misbehaviour. I call it misbehaviour because it is against the > truth, it is against God's wish, it is against humanity, and it will > destroy all the good things. > > All this misidentifications have to be dropped and you have to know > that we are all one, we are all one, we are all global, we are not > separated by colour, race or religion. We should know we are all > one, and that oneness should not be established by slogans or by > shouting. What should be that oneness is to be felt within. It is > not artificial, it has to be real, very real oneness. And that comes > to you once you realise that you are part and parcel of the whole. > Religions have brought you up to this point of awareness, not your > fighting, not your killing. Why, why human beings have diverted > themselves? Because of complete ignorance of righteousness , because > of complete greed of oneself, oneself, just yourself, all your > family, at the most all your relations. Why do you want to keep it > yourself? You are the Spirit. Spirit is the ocean, ocean of > knowledge, is the ocean of love, is the ocean of all blessings. > So we have to decide. Today I have to request that there is not so > much time left. We have to decide that we have to become the Spirit. > That is what all the religions have brought, but how to do it was > not so very much explained, and it did not work out. Some of them > did get it, but they were not trusted, nobody listened to them. Even > people killed them and tortured them and crucified them. But now > please, all of you, try to understand the value of that .... Why are > you humans? Why are you created? What is the purpose behind this? > Are you going to be driven by nonsensical ideas? Are you going to be > finished by all sorts of dividing factors? No, no. You are all going > to get your self realisation, and you are going to understand the > value of your life. > > The problem is, you will get your realisation in the sense, the > power within you will rise. It is very well organised. Actually, God > is a great creator, how he has balanced and how it works out is > remarkable, every detail He has done it. With that happening, is not > sufficient. You enter into, say, a palace and then you go round and > see for yourself how beautiful you are, what beautiful things God > has made, then grow into it. Once you are grown into it then you > will realise what a great thing you are, the greatest gem, the > greatest person so loving, that having some writing under statues. > Nobody tries to understand what were they doing, how they worked. > So, tonight we can have the experience, the experience of the > Spirit. It is a very unusual rare thing, never used to have one like > that. But it is now, so why not take advantage of it. Please, be > ready for that, accept it, take it and become. Becoming is the > point. What you become is the point, and what you make out of this > whole human civilisation is your problem, not mine. I can help, I > can work it out. > > So I would request you all to now get ready for self > realisation. . . . > > This power Kundalini is placed in the triangular bone, known as > sacrum, is sacred and it rises through 6 centres of the > parasympathic and ultimately pierces through the fontanel bone area > which was a soft bone in your head, on top of your head, when you > were a child it was a soft bone. It pierces through that and enters > into the subtle energy of all pervading power of divine love. They > call it by different names, they call it Paramchaitanya, they call > it Chaitanya, some call it as Ruh. You may call it by any name, it > is the Love of God. Once you get connected with you, when you start > feeling on your fingers some sort of a breeze, first some people > will get hot, does not matter, but then it cools down and you get > the cool breeze of the Holy Ghost everyone. And it starts flowing."> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi> July 14, 2001 - Royal Albert Hall, London, UK> > > "jagbir singh" <adishakti_org > Mon May 15, 2006 8:19 am > Who are the criminally negligent custodians of Shri > Mataji's Message and Will? > > , "my2pai" <my2pai@>> wrote:> >> > And yet the supposed custodians of Shri Mataji's Message and,> > purportedly, of Shri Mataji's Will, have, with an attitude of> > almost criminal negligence, continually underplayed and> > understated the import of the Great Incarnation. 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> Jai Shri Mataji!

> dear brothers,sisters andmembers of this group,

> I have been reading the posts here for the last months but this

> last one gave me such a left Sahasrara/left agnya catch when read

> just the title!

> Do you think these posts will help a newcomer?Or will they scare

> them and send them away from Sahaja Yoga?Also,please,know that you

> are talking about a council whose Head is Shri Mataji Herself!How

> can you say words like

> negativity possessed the leader and the highest members of

> WCASY ?????Mother is the LEADER!For God's Sake, put a stop to

> this,it is sacrilige!

>

 

Maybe you need to read it again and remember Shri Mataji made that

speech in 2001:

 

" To all SYs and seekers of Truth,

 

Perhaps the most famous venue where Shri Mataji talked about the

Resurrection and Last Judgment to thousands of complete strangers/

public is the Royal Albert Hall, London, UK. i quote Her:

 

" All this is coming because this is the Last Judgment. I have told

you, this is the Last Judgment. And this Last Judgment will really

decide who are to be saved and who are to be doomed completely. It

is a very, very serious thing. All of them who are aware should

think about it. "

 

She has done so all over the world over the years and decades, time

and again exhorting and pleading with humans to transform themselves

as the Last Judgment and Resurrection is taking place.

 

However, even as the eleventh hour today ticks on, the criminally

negligent custodians of Shri Mataji's Message and Will continue to

suppress Her Divine Message. The infamous Inquisytion of WCASY is

instead used against those who try to follow Shri Mataji's direction

and vision. "

 

 

Shri Mataji has done Her job but not a single WCASY member or leader

has lifted a finger to help Her even though it " is a very, very

serious thing " i.e., that Shri Mataji is pleading to humanity that " if you look

around in today's situation, you will have to admit there is a big turmoil going

on. Countries after countries are taking to all kinds of wrong things. A lot of

cold war is on, people are killing each other, destroying beautiful places,

cutting each other's throat for nothing at all. "

 

You said that you had a " left Sahasrara/left agnya catch " when you

read that " A satanic negativity has possessed our leaders and WCASY

council members " . Then it must be true since only a satanic negativity can

prevent Shri Mataji's warning of the Last Judgment from being announced by those

entrusted to do so. What else can prevent Shri Mataji's Divine Message of the

Last Judgment from being on the WCASY agenda? Every incarnation that set foot on

Earth has been attacked by negativity. In Shri Mataji's case it is from within,

with negativity possessing those leaders and council members trusted to ensure

that the public knows upfront that the Last Judgment is taking place.

 

So now you can either side with Shri Mataji or WCASY and leaders. If

you side with Shri Mataji then you will follow/say what She has said

and done for three decades. If you want to side with WCASY then you

can spread the Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion which they will

continue now. Just choose one and stand your ground. You just cannot

have two masters and worship both equally. Either choose the Divine

and the Truth or choose humans and their organization. With all i

have written i am only making your ability to choose an informed

one. i do so with a clear conscience because i have decided to

firmly stand on side of the Divine and Truth. Others have done or

are doing the same too. After all, this is the Last Judgment and i

will be judged by my actions. Unlike WCASY, i believe telling the

truth is my sacred duty. Only a satanic force can prevent humanity

from knowing about the Last Judgment. So far, unlike WCASY members,

i am not possessed by it. Just ask them what is preventing them from

doing what Shri Mataji has always done in public - tell complete

strangers that it is the Last Judgment!

 

jagbir

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I see your point but I just say that when mother is formaly the Head of WCASY,

we cannot say anything against WCASY .

 

Dear mprgrandmaster,

 

As an administrative body, administering the affairs of Shri Mataji, any Sahaja

Yogi can complain to them if they are not doing the job that they are supposed

to do. They are not infallible as the Catholic Pope claims to be, just because

they are an administrative body under Shri Mataji.

 

We must not get WCASY, the administrative body confused with the Truth that Shri

Mataji has brought to Earth. We must not even confuse WCASY with the Spiritual

Truth that Shri Jesus, Shri Buddha, Prophet Mohammed, and other Incarnations

taught. These Truths, according to Shri Mataji cannot be organized, and as WCASY

is an organizational body, this is also true for them.

 

As an administrative body, WCASY have been given the task of being the

repository for Shri Mataji's tapes, videos, properties, and monies. Shri Mataji

is the head of this administration, because it is Her Property really, that they

are looking after. Someone has to look after it. It cannot float in the air.

 

However, the part that is much more important than all of that is the Divine

Message of Truth Itself, which Shri Mataji said COULD NEVER BE ORGANIZED! The

responsibility of this Divine Message of Shri Mataji of the Last Judgment and

Resurrection rests on every " born of the Spirit person " , a.k.a. Sahaja Yogi who

feels the vibrations. Whether they also hold a seat on the World Council is

'besides the point'.

 

Administrative bodies organize. That is their job. They don't do the work

themselves, because their job is to organize only. It is the individual

themselves that has to do the work that Shri Mataji has asked us to do.

 

As an administrative body, WCASY is not an individual, it is a functional

administrative service. However, they have made themselves out to be more than a

functional administrative service to Sahaja Yogis. They have made SY's believe

that rather than just being the administrative functioning body that is the

respository of Her Property, that this functional administrative body will also

now interpret the Will of Shri Mataji to everyone. i hope you can 'see' how

wrong this assertion is.

 

Shri Mataji has given us the 'checks and balances' for just such assertions by

WCASY by telling us that we must be our own guru, teacher, and master. WCASY is

not meant to be your guru, teacher and master, you see. WCASY is only meant to

be an administrative body.

 

i hope this becomes more clear in the future, if it is not clear now.

Also, btw, Shri Mataji does not want a 'Pope' in Her Organization, and although

this may 'sound sacriligious' it is the truth.

 

best wishes,

 

violet

 

 

> Jai Shri Mataji!

> Dear Violet ,

> Thanks for the reply.

> I see your point but I just say that when mther is formaly the Head

of WCASY, we cannot say anything against WCASY . We may only say about

the human members of it and mistakes they are doing in preserving the

Divine Messege of Mother.

> My only Will is to be the Instrument of Mothers Will.My deepest

disire is to act,think,live and feel so that She casts a sweet smile

upon me and sheds a tear out of Her Love and Pleasure for me.May Her

Teachings Prevail!Amen!

>

> -

> Violet

>

> Friday, May 26, 2006 1:29 AM

> Re: A satanic negativity has

possessed our leaders and WCASY council members

>

>

> , " my2pai " <my2pai@>

> wrote:

>

> > " And yet the supposed custodians of Shri Mataji's Message and,

> > purportedly, of Shri Mataji's Will, have, with an attitude of

> > almost criminal negligence, continually underplayed and

> > understated the import of the Great Incarnation. While the false

> > gurus are masquerading as great saints and even incarnations. "

>

> Dear mprgrandmaster,

>

> The above quote reveals the REAL sacrilige. Shri Mataji came on

Earth to introduce us to our Mother Within, who is the Holy Spirit of

the Christians, the Adi Shakti of the Hindus, the Ruh of Allah of the

Muslims, the Maitreya of the Buddhists, the Shekinah in Judaism, the

Eykaa Mayee in Sikhism and the Great Mother in Taoism, however this

Message is not getting out to the public-at-large by the custodians of

Her Writings. Being the custodians of Her Writings is not the same as

being the custodians of Her Message. This is maybe where you are

getting a bit mixed-up, and therefore getting a headache.

>

> You see, 'leadership' is actually a 'myth', according to Shri

Mataji. We are promoting Shri Mataji on this forum and not WCASY, as

WCASY are not 'doing the right thing' by Shri Mataji. That is why we

denounce their actions/inaction. Not only have they done nothing about

Her Real Message, they have edited it and organized it into a new

subtle system religion which they have organized all SY's to follow in

that format. They have created a different Truth, which is aptly

labelled as the Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion.

>

> Maybe, now you will understand and it will clear up your

confusion. i sure hope so, because it would be a shame, if you follow

the WCASY SYSSR rather than the Will of Shri Mataji Herself. As

already said, WCASY are only the custodians of Her Literature, they

are not the custodians of Shri Mataji's Divine Message Itself.

>

> What i am saying is that WCASY's words are not to be taken in with

bated breath as if they are now the Will of Shri Mataji Herself.

However, if you really believe that they are NOW the Will of Shri

Mataji Herself, then you have misunderstood Shri Mataji's Truth

completely, my dear grand master! You cannot follow God and mammon.

Shri Jesus explains this fact:-

>

> " No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and

love the other, or he will hold to one and despise the other. You

cannot serve God and mammon. " (Matthew 6:24)

>

> You see, to 'put it personally', the Holy Spirit Within cannot be

my master, if i allow WCASY to be my master. If i allowed WCASY to be

my master, and if Jagbir allowed WCASY to be his master, you would not

have one forum even telling Her Divine Message to the world. It would

only be a subtle system message. Maybe, you can now see more clearly,

and i hope that headache can now clear.

>

> Because i can tell you....that if you follow WCASY's word, then

you are in trouble, for you will never be your own teacher, guru, or

even grand master then!

>

> i hope this helps,

>

> violet

>

> , " Jai Shri Mataji "

> <mprgrandmaster@> wrote:

> >

> > Jai Shri Mataji!

> > dear brothers,sisters andmembers of this group,

> > I have been reading the posts here for the last months but this

last

> one gave me such a left Sahasrara/left agnya catch when read just

the

> title!

> > Do you think these posts will help a newcomer?Or will they scare

> them and send them away from Sahaja Yoga?Also,please,know that you

are

> talking about a council whose Head is Shri Mataji Herself!How can

you

> say words like

> > >> negativity possessed the leader and the highest members of

WCASY

> ?????Mother is the LEADER!For God's Sake, put a stop to this,it

is

> sacrilige!

> >

> > -

> > isaac iba

> >

> > Thursday, May 25, 2006 6:22 PM

> > RE: A satanic negativity has

> possessed our leaders and WCASY council members

> >

> >

> > hello brother jagbir

> > what can we do for that?i think it is very dangerous for

sahaja

> yoga if the negativity possessed the leader and the highest

members of

> WCASY,according to me, every one have to work himself to grow and

to

> establish a personnel relationship with our HOLLY MOTHER, i also

think

> that WCASY is an other illusion of MAHAMAYa.if we wan to help

humanity

> and sahaja yoga, we have to grow and see SHRI MATAJI in our

meditation

> whose can give us all instructions.you know in my

country(cameroon)the

> problem of leadership have separated our collectif nowaday, we

have

> three collectif and each collectif leader`s claim that he are

national

> leader and we can be unite as children of SHRI MATAJI what can i

do?

> today in WCASY we havent african member what is meaning?is no

sahaja

> yoga in AFRICA?if it that can somebody come and help us to be

sahaja

> yogi?why mother does no come in AFRICA? because of poverty? isaac

> >

> > jagbir singh <adishakti_org@> a écrit :

> > To all SYs and seekers of Truth,

> >

> > Perhaps the most famous venue where Shri Mataji talked about

the

> > Resurrection and Last Judgment to thousands of complete

> strangers/

> > public is the Royal Albert Hall, London, UK. i quote Her:

> >

> > " All this is coming because this is the Last Judgment. I

have

> told

> > you, this is the Last Judgment. And this Last Judgment will

> really

> > decide who are to be saved and who are to be doomed

completely.

> It

> > is a very, very serious thing. All of them who are aware

should

> > think about it. "

> >

> > She has done so all over the world over the years and

decades,

> time

> > and again exhorting and pleading with humans to transform

> themselves

> > as the Last Judgment and Resurrection is taking place.

> >

> > However, even as the eleventh hour today ticks on, the

> criminally

> > negligent custodians of Shri Mataji's Message and Will

continue

> to

> > suppress Her Divine Message. The infamous Inquisytion of

WCASY

> is

> > instead used against those who try to follow Shri Mataji's

> direction

> > and vision. Yet again i have to repeat that a satanic

negativity

> has

> > possessed our leaders and WCASY council members and they are

now

> > actively preventing the rest of humanity from knowing about

God

> > Almighty's Last Judgment and Resurrection. A powerful evil

force

> is

> > preventing the culmination of God's Plan by overpowering and

> > possessing our leaders with the fear and apprehension of

> speaking

> > about the Last Judgment and Resurrection that Shri Mataji

> repeated

> > hundreds of times. And tens of thousands of SYs influenced

by

> such

> > leaders are following them to spread the false SYSSR!

> >

> > Below is the speech (from which the quote above was taken)

given

> by

> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi on July 14, 2001 at the Royal

Albert

> Hall,

> > London, UK. The present-day WCASY council members and

leaders

> should

> > have admonished Shri Mataji for publicly speaking about the

> > Resurrection and Last Judgment in such a prominent venue.

> However,

> > the Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion is a subtle way of

> achieving

> > just that behind Shri Mataji's back. Her present

incapacitation

> will

> > only embolden the criminally negligent custodians of Shri

> Mataji's

> > Message and Will. This forum and the websites are the only

> obstacles

> > left in their path of complete domination of Shri Mataji's

> Advent,

> > Vision and Divine Message. We must never waiver or fail in

our

> > resolve to defeat this negativity.

> >

> > Jai Shri Ganapathi,

> >

> >

> > jagbir

> >

> >

> >

> > --------

> >

> >

> > " I bow to all the seekers of Truth.

> >

> > Some of you have found the Truth, some of you have not found

it

> > fully, and some of you have not found it at all. But if you

look

> > around in today's situation, you will have to admit there is

a

> big

> > turmoil going on. Countries after countries are taking to

all

> kinds

> > of wrong things. A lot of cold war is on, people are killing

> each

> > other, destroying beautiful places, cutting each other's

throat

> for

> > nothing at all. We are all human beings created by God, God

> Almighty

> > has created them and has brought them to this level of human

> > awareness.

> >

> > At this juncture one can see where are we going in a

collective

> way.

> > This is, where have we to reach or is it our destiny? Is

this

> the

> > destiny of human beings, to be destroyed by each other for

land

> or

> > for anything else? Think of the whole world as one and think

> what is

> > happening all over. Every day you read newspaper, every day

> there is

> > some sort of a horrible news about horrible things people

are

> doing

> > to each other for no rhyme or reason. We have to think: what

is

> the

> > destiny, where are we going? Are we going to Hell or to

Heaven?

> What

> > is our situation around? Can you help it?

> >

> > What is wrong with human beings is: they are still in the

> complete

> > control of ignorance. I would call it ignorance, and in that

> > ignorance, in that darkness, they are doing this horrible

thing.

> > Nobody wants to understand that what we are doing is nothing

but

> > complete destruction. Is that our destiny? That we are going

to

> get

> > destroyed completely? What good are we doing under the name

of

> some

> > sort of nationality or maybe some religion, all kinds of

things

> > which are good. But we are doing all wrong things: fighting.

> > Fighting is not nobility, we hate anybody who can excite our

> hatred.

> > It is very much, I don't know. very much liked, and under

this

> > guidance, we form groups.

> >

> > All this is coming because this is the Last Judgment. I have

> told

> > you, this is the Last Judgment. And this Last Judgment will

> really

> > decide who are to be saved and who are to be doomed

completely.

> It

> > is a very, very serious thing. All of them who are aware

should

> > think about it. Little patchwork here, and a little

patchwork is

> not

> > going to do. Whatever you may try, unless and until you

> transform

> > human being, it cannot be saved. This transformation is not

an

> > impossible thing, it is not difficult. This is the time for

> > transformation, this is a chance for transformation. And

within

> us

> > it is placed, the power, as power it is described, is the

> mystical

> > feminine power within us. All of them have written, I am not

the

> > first person to say that, but nobody has been able, perhaps

so

> far,

> > to understand it or to accept it that it should happen to

you.

> > You are born, not only to be human beings, but you have to

be

> > superhuman. You have to enjoy yourself, your life should be

> > enjoyable, it should be blissful. It should not be a curse,

> morning

> > till evening worried about this, worried about that. That is

why

> you

> > are created, because God had no intention of creating people

who

> > will be all the time worried how to quarrel, how to fight,

how

> to

> > save, but people who will live in complete harmony, peace

and

> joy.

> > That is why we are created, that is our destiny. That is not

> just I

> > am telling you, but it is a fact.

> >

> > So we will have to be, we have to be transformed. This

> > transformation is not difficult, but what I find you could

get

> > satisfied with anything. Hindus will go to the temple

getting

> " oh we

> > have done great " , Christians go to the church and think they

> have

> > done very good, Muslims will go and pray and think that they

are

> > great. What have they achieved?

> >

> > Face yourselves, please, face your limitations, face your,

face

> your

> > problems and see for yourself: Have you been able to solve

your

> > problems? Have you been able to save yourself from

calamities? .

> . .

> > I am not only talking, but I want you all to get your self-

> > realization. What is self-realization? It is to know your

self.

> You

> > do not know your self, you do not know. You are living in

this

> world

> > without knowing your self, can you imagine? You do not know

what

> you

> > are, you do not know that you are the Spirit, and that you

are

> the

> > source of knowledge, of pure knowledge. I find people

sitting in

> a

> > meeting listening to some babaji who is telling them some

story,

> > very happy. This is not going to give you the reality, and

the

> > truth. If you want to have reality and truth, then please

try to

> > understand that something has to happen, to you some

> transformation

> > has to take place. . . .

> >

> > These are emergencies, you are living in very emergent

> conditions,

> > try to understand. And I want to warn you that if you do not

go

> deep

> > into yourself and find out what you are and take to your

> > transformation, anything is possible: all kinds of diseases

> > happening to you, all kinds of new problems of children

coming

> up,

> > all kinds of national problems are there, all kinds of

> international

> > problems are there, that people cannot help it. So we have

to

> get

> > out of this and become a solid personality of truth.

> >

> > We don not know what the truth is. We are worse than animals

> whose

> > eyes are open, while our eyes are closed. It is not to

condemn

> you

> > or anything, but to make you alert and aware that human

beings

> have

> > to change. Otherwise you just, you come to my lecture,

tomorrow

> you

> > will come to another lecture. That is all, it is an

everyday,

> sort

> > of a nice entertainment. But when I see the destiny, I don't

> know

> > how many will be going, how many will be finished, what will

> happen

> > to them, what diseases they will get, what problems they

will

> get,

> > what will happen to their children, what will happen to

their

> > country, and what will happen with the whole world. Just

widen

> your

> > vision. My vision is that all the people of the world should

get

> > transformation. We have enemies within ourselves, and when

we

> talk

> > of jihad we talk that you have to fight your enemies within

> > yourself. What are our enemies?

> >

> > These days the worst is greed, there is greed. With that

greed

> > people can do anything they want, all kinds of things are

> happening

> > out of greed. They will have money, they will have all kinds

of

> > facilities, but still this greed is such a satanic thing

that

> you do

> > not even see what you have. And you want to have more and

more,

> > deceive people, deceive your ... , deceive everyone and ...

.

> > You have heard so much about Spirit and Spiritual life. But,

> have

> > you reached that point? Even when you read zen-system, tao-

> system,

> > Bible, Koran, anything. Do you know how to reach that point

of

> the

> > Spirit? Not yet, not yet. You have to know that, because you

are

> > very great, you are very precious and you are so beautiful

> within.

> > But you are not aware of it! You have to become that. That

> becoming

> > is very important. And for that already God Almighty has

> organised

> > within you, which is called as Kundalini, which can be

awakened

> and

> > its awakening can give you self realisation, can give you

self

> > knowledge, as you call atma sakshat. That is what is very,

very

> > important in your life to have it, and when it is free, you

> cannot

> > pay for it. How much can you pay? When it is absolutely

free,

> why

> > don't you take your self realisation? And why don't you

grow?. .

> .

> > Mohammed Saab has said clearly: " At the time of resurrection

> your

> > hands will speak. " Are they speaking?

> >

> > Hindus know about it, that we have to get our self

realisation.

> No

> > use just listening to these babajis and giving them money.

All

> this

> > kind of rituals that we are doing, that our forefathers have

> been

> > doing. What have we achieved? Nothing!

> >

> > So now it is important for us to know that we have to have

our

> > evolution reaching to the point of self realisation. If we

were

> > perfect, there would have been no problem. If we were self

> realised

> > people, there would have been no problem. All kinds of

> selfishness,

> > all kinds of limits we have put around us, all kinds of

> conditioning

> > and ego, which have been working our life and have been

ruling

> us,

> > we have to get over it. And once you get over it you get

united.

> > Nobody has to tell you that you get united. You lose all

> > misidentifications. Your misidentifications are that, that

you

> > belong to this country, you belong to this religion, you

belong

> to

> > that. You belong to nothing. You belong to the Kingdom of

God.

> That

> > is what we have to achieve, and you should be one there. But

if

> you

> > like storytelling there is no end to it.

> >

> > But you are wasting your time! The time is running short. I

have

> > been now here for the last, I don't know, 20 years or so. I

> worked

> > very hard, but what I find, that people do not realise what

they

> are

> > supposed to do. They like people who will just say something

> very

> > simple, or who are to serve visual entertainment. So the

whole

> > humanity has to understand that destiny of destruction is to

be

> > about today, complete destruction is to be about. And very

> simple is

> > that you enter into the Kingdom of God, which is very easy,

no

> time

> > to pay anything, you do not have to work out anything. You

take

> your

> > self realisation, and then at home you spend about 10

minutes

> > meditating. Only your mind is all the time justifying your

> > misbehaviour. I call it misbehaviour because it is against

the

> > truth, it is against God's wish, it is against humanity, and

it

> will

> > destroy all the good things.

> >

> > All this misidentifications have to be dropped and you have

to

> know

> > that we are all one, we are all one, we are all global, we

are

> not

> > separated by colour, race or religion. We should know we are

all

> > one, and that oneness should not be established by slogans

or by

> > shouting. What should be that oneness is to be felt within.

It

> is

> > not artificial, it has to be real, very real oneness. And

that

> comes

> > to you once you realise that you are part and parcel of the

> whole.

> > Religions have brought you up to this point of awareness,

not

> your

> > fighting, not your killing. Why, why human beings have

diverted

> > themselves? Because of complete ignorance of righteousness ,

> because

> > of complete greed of oneself, oneself, just yourself, all

your

> > family, at the most all your relations. Why do you want to

keep

> it

> > yourself? You are the Spirit. Spirit is the ocean, ocean of

> > knowledge, is the ocean of love, is the ocean of all

blessings.

> > So we have to decide. Today I have to request that there is

not

> so

> > much time left. We have to decide that we have to become the

> Spirit.

> > That is what all the religions have brought, but how to do

it

> was

> > not so very much explained, and it did not work out. Some of

> them

> > did get it, but they were not trusted, nobody listened to

them.

> Even

> > people killed them and tortured them and crucified them. But

now

> > please, all of you, try to understand the value of that ....

Why

> are

> > you humans? Why are you created? What is the purpose behind

> this?

> > Are you going to be driven by nonsensical ideas? Are you

going

> to be

> > finished by all sorts of dividing factors? No, no. You are

all

> going

> > to get your self realisation, and you are going to

understand

> the

> > value of your life.

> >

> > The problem is, you will get your realisation in the sense,

the

> > power within you will rise. It is very well organised.

Actually,

> God

> > is a great creator, how he has balanced and how it works out

is

> > remarkable, every detail He has done it. With that

happening, is

> not

> > sufficient. You enter into, say, a palace and then you go

round

> and

> > see for yourself how beautiful you are, what beautiful

things

> God

> > has made, then grow into it. Once you are grown into it then

you

> > will realise what a great thing you are, the greatest gem,

the

> > greatest person so loving, that having some writing under

> statues.

> > Nobody tries to understand what were they doing, how they

> worked.

> > So, tonight we can have the experience, the experience of

the

> > Spirit. It is a very unusual rare thing, never used to have

one

> like

> > that. But it is now, so why not take advantage of it.

Please, be

> > ready for that, accept it, take it and become. Becoming is

the

> > point. What you become is the point, and what you make out

of

> this

> > whole human civilisation is your problem, not mine. I can

help,

> I

> > can work it out.

> >

> > So I would request you all to now get ready for self

> > realisation. . . .

> >

> > This power Kundalini is placed in the triangular bone, known

as

> > sacrum, is sacred and it rises through 6 centres of the

> > parasympathic and ultimately pierces through the fontanel

bone

> area

> > which was a soft bone in your head, on top of your head,

when

> you

> > were a child it was a soft bone. It pierces through that and

> enters

> > into the subtle energy of all pervading power of divine

love.

> They

> > call it by different names, they call it Paramchaitanya,

they

> call

> > it Chaitanya, some call it as Ruh. You may call it by any

name,

> it

> > is the Love of God. Once you get connected with you, when

you

> start

> > feeling on your fingers some sort of a breeze, first some

people

> > will get hot, does not matter, but then it cools down and

you

> get

> > the cool breeze of the Holy Ghost everyone. And it starts

> flowing. "

> >

 

>

> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> > July 14, 2001 - Royal Albert Hall, London, UK

> >

> >

> > " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org@>

> > Mon May 15, 2006 8:19 am

> > Who are the criminally negligent custodians of Shri

> > Mataji's Message and Will?

> >

> > , " my2pai "

<my2pai@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > And yet the supposed custodians of Shri Mataji's Message

and,

> > > purportedly, of Shri Mataji's Will, have, with an attitude

of

> > > almost criminal negligence, continually underplayed and

> > > understated the import of the Great Incarnation. While the

> false

> > > gurus are masquerading as great saints and even

incarnations,

> >

> > http://www.divine-mother.org/

> > http://www.divinemother.net/

> > http://www.motherdivine.org/

> > http://www.gurumaa.com/

> > http://www.kashi.org/

> > http://www.tara.org/jetsunma.htm

> > http://www.yogachicago.com/may04/karuna.shtml

> > http://www.geocities.com/ascendedmaster/MotherMeera.html

> > http://www.pathofthemother.com/play3.html

> > http://www.adidam.org/

> > http://www.narayaniamma.org/

> > http://home.arcor.de/maatrix/amma.html

> > http://www.karunamayi.org/HB-Home.html

> > http://www.ammachi.org/

> > http://www.globeworks.com/appaji/

> > http://www.babajiashram.org/

> > http://www.sathyasai.org/

> > http://www.3ho.org/YogiBhajan.html

> > http://www.siddhayoga.org/shree-muktananda-ashram.html

> > http://www.ashram.org/

> > http://www.thefamily.org/ourfounder/ourfounder.htm

> > http://www.swadhyay.org/

> > http://www.louixdordempriey.com/news.html

> > http://www.dattapeetham.com/

> > http://www.abo.fi/comprel/joel.htm

> > http://www.inricristo.org.br/pg.ingles.html

> > http://www.kaleshwar.org/en/index

> > http://www.onenessuniversity.org/

> > http://www.miracle.org/

> > http://www.ex-premie.org/

> > http://www.avatarmeherbaba.org/

> & gt; http://unification.org/

> > http://www.narayanipeedam.org/

> > http://www.shantimandir.com/

> > http://www.sripremananda.org/

> > http://www.srcm.org/index.jsp

> > http://www.ramakrishnananda.com/view.php?page=Ò & Disp==,

> >

> >

> > > the marketers of Shri Adi Shakti's Incarnation have

packaged

> > > Sahaja Yoga as a technique for stress relief and pretend

that

> Shri

> > > Mataji is just an ordinary guru discoursing on the subtle

> system:

> > > such a grotesque and unconcionable understatement of the

> greatness

> > > of the Divine Incarnation of Shri Adi Shakti.

> & gt; >

> >

> > Sahaja Yoga is a unique method of meditation based on an

> experience

> > called Self Realization (Kundalini awakening) that can occur

> within

> > each human being.

> >

> > Through this process an inner transformation takes place by

> which

> > one becomes moral, united, integrated and balanced.

> >

> > http://www.sahajayoga.org/

> > http://www.sahajayoga.org/worldwidecontacts/default.asp

> >

> > All Sahaja Yoga meetings are offered free of charge, usually

on

> a

> > weekly basis. Calling the center located in your country you

> will be

> > able to get information about the programs which are closest

to

& gt; you.

> > Not all countries are listed - if your country is not on the

> list,

> > call the number corresponding to the nearest country to find

out

> > about possible local Sahaja Yoga contacts which are not

enlisted

> > here.

> >

> > Algeria (213)21.63.28.40 / msaitchaalal@

> > Argentina (54 11) 4863 3291 / sahajayogaargentina@

> > Aruba (297) 839 662

> > Australia (61 2) 9416 2373

> > Austria (43 1) 609 11 31

> > Bahrain 00-973-39067465, 00-973-39575301 / kmadhu60@,

> > prakashsahaj@

> > Belarus (7 0172) 62 68 27

> > Belgium (32 83) 21 47 31

> > Benin (229) 21 25 25

> > Bhutan (00975) 2-326460 / rajeshkafley@

> > Bolivia (591 42) 47740

> > Bulgaria +359 888 77 58 12

> > Cameroon (237) 22 73 97

> > Canada (1 416) 614-7338 : (1 604) 597-8440

> > Chile (56 2) 2207237 / sahajayogachile@

> > Colombia (571) 214-3971

> > Cyprus +357 24 639108 / +357 99 832868 / +357 99605826 /

> > inna@

> > Czech Republic (420 2) 9972310

> > Denmark 45 38118915 / info@

> > Estonia 37255-640333 / sahaja.yoga@

> > Finland (358 9) 855 0934

> > France (33 1) 43 30 57 25

> > Georgia, Republic of (7 8832) 38 95 24

> > Germany (49 3322) 20 88 70

> > Greece (30 1) 822 9262 / inna@

> > Hong Kong (852) 25045260

> > Hungary (36 1) 218-0493

> > Iceland 00354\8454812 / ritadefruyt@

> > Indonesia (including East Timor) 62 21 544 6672 /

> > SahajaYogaIndonesia@

> > Ireland (Eire) (3531) 282 5542

> > Israel (972 3) 506 1214 / sy_israel@

> > Italy (39 744) 919-851

> > Japan (81-3)3469-1027, (81-426)78-2923 / hitoshii@

> > Kazakhstan (7 3252) 12 13 68

> > Kenya 254.2.604999 / moweke@

> > Kuwait 6134619 / aciyer@

> > Latvia (00 371) 9195326, (00 371) 7532656 / sahajayoga@

> > Lithuania (37 02) 47 81 43

> > Macedonia, Republic of (389 91) 22 62 75

> > Malaysia 603- 6140 3388 or 6012- 273 86 22 /

> > sahajayogamsia@

> > Mexico (52 5) 575 1949

> > Moldova +3732 2 73 87 80, 29 46 02 / irinanori@,

> > corina1970@

> > Nepal (01) 482 735 / sykp@

> > Netherlands (31 20) 697-2038

> > New Zealand (64 9) 418 3824

> > Norway (4766) 66915608

> > Peru (Home) 511 264-6800, (Cell) 511 9817-3805 /

> > crramosh@, crramos@

> > Poland (48 22) 751 3520

> > Portugal (351 1) 396 3149

> > Reunion 0262 412028 / nirmal-run@

> > Romania (40 1) 777 7216

> > Russia (7 095) 541 3745 / info@

> > Seychelles (248) 322 743

> > Sierra Leone (232) 25316

> > Singapore (65) 6348 9769 / vigvikas@

> > Slovak Republic (Slovakia) (42 17) 54415493

> > Slovenia 386-41-428333

> > South Africa (011) 864 - 3410 / ramoodley@

> > Spain (0034) 91 715 8788

> > Sweden +46/8-7610033 / froelen@

> > Switzerland (41 22) 779 20 37

> > Taiwan (886 2) 715 5208

> > Thailand (662) 712 14 18

> > Tunisia (43 1) 381 559

> > Turkey (0090) 212 248 31 22

> > Ukraine (380-44) 442 68 71

> > United Arab Emirates (971) 426 36327

> > United Kingdom (44 181) 930 5621

> > Uruguay (59 82) 60 77 09

> > Zambia (260) 1 291 378

> >

> >

> > So who are the supposed custodians of Shri Mataji's Message

and,

> > purportedly, of Shri Mataji's Will, who have, with an

attitude

> of

> > almost criminal negligence, continually underplayed and

> understated

> > the import of the Great Incarnation?

> >

> >

> > Rajesh Shah

> > Gregoire de Kalbermatten

> > David Spiro

> > Vijay Nalgirkar

> > Manoj Kumar

> > Eduardo Marino

> > Wolfgang Hackl

> > Majid Golpour

> > Phillip Zeiss

> > Derek Lee

> > Arneau de Kalbermatten

> > Nese Algan

> > Ivan Tan

> > Karan Khurana

> > Alex Henshaw

> > Aldo Gandolfi

> > Rajiv Kumar

> > Brian Wells

> > David Dunphy

> > Zafar Rashid

> > Bohdan Shehovich

> > Gagan Ahluwalia

> > Paul Ellis

> > Alan Wherry

> > Alan Pereira

> > Sandeep Gadkary

> > Mihaela Balasescu

> > Viktor Bondar

> > Dmitry Korotaev

> > Alexander Solodyankin

> > Chris Kyriacou

> > Advisors to the Council:

> >

> > Gagan Ahluwalia: Financial, Accounting and Property matters

> > Paul Ellis: Legal Affairs

> > Alan Wherry : Publication Issues

> >

> > /message/

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> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > -------------------------------

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