Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 To all SYs and seekers of Truth, Perhaps the most famous venue where Shri Mataji talked about the Resurrection and Last Judgment to thousands of complete strangers/ public is the Royal Albert Hall, London, UK. i quote Her: " All this is coming because this is the Last Judgment. I have told you, this is the Last Judgment. And this Last Judgment will really decide who are to be saved and who are to be doomed completely. It is a very, very serious thing. All of them who are aware should think about it. " She has done so all over the world over the years and decades, time and again exhorting and pleading with humans to transform themselves as the Last Judgment and Resurrection is taking place. However, even as the eleventh hour today ticks on, the criminally negligent custodians of Shri Mataji's Message and Will continue to suppress Her Divine Message. The infamous Inquisytion of WCASY is instead used against those who try to follow Shri Mataji's direction and vision. Yet again i have to repeat that a satanic negativity has possessed our leaders and WCASY council members and they are now actively preventing the rest of humanity from knowing about God Almighty's Last Judgment and Resurrection. A powerful evil force is preventing the culmination of God's Plan by overpowering and possessing our leaders with the fear and apprehension of speaking about the Last Judgment and Resurrection that Shri Mataji repeated hundreds of times. And tens of thousands of SYs influenced by such leaders are following them to spread the false SYSSR! Below is the speech (from which the quote above was taken) given by Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi on July 14, 2001 at the Royal Albert Hall, London, UK. The present-day WCASY council members and leaders should have admonished Shri Mataji for publicly speaking about the Resurrection and Last Judgment in such a prominent venue. However, the Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion is a subtle way of achieving just that behind Shri Mataji's back. Her present incapacitation will only embolden the criminally negligent custodians of Shri Mataji's Message and Will. This forum and the websites are the only obstacles left in their path of complete domination of Shri Mataji's Advent, Vision and Divine Message. We must never waiver or fail in our resolve to defeat this negativity. Jai Shri Ganapathi, jagbir -------- " I bow to all the seekers of Truth. Some of you have found the Truth, some of you have not found it fully, and some of you have not found it at all. But if you look around in today's situation, you will have to admit there is a big turmoil going on. Countries after countries are taking to all kinds of wrong things. A lot of cold war is on, people are killing each other, destroying beautiful places, cutting each other's throat for nothing at all. We are all human beings created by God, God Almighty has created them and has brought them to this level of human awareness. At this juncture one can see where are we going in a collective way. This is, where have we to reach or is it our destiny? Is this the destiny of human beings, to be destroyed by each other for land or for anything else? Think of the whole world as one and think what is happening all over. Every day you read newspaper, every day there is some sort of a horrible news about horrible things people are doing to each other for no rhyme or reason. We have to think: what is the destiny, where are we going? Are we going to Hell or to Heaven? What is our situation around? Can you help it? What is wrong with human beings is: they are still in the complete control of ignorance. I would call it ignorance, and in that ignorance, in that darkness, they are doing this horrible thing. Nobody wants to understand that what we are doing is nothing but complete destruction. Is that our destiny? That we are going to get destroyed completely? What good are we doing under the name of some sort of nationality or maybe some religion, all kinds of things which are good. But we are doing all wrong things: fighting. Fighting is not nobility, we hate anybody who can excite our hatred. It is very much, I don't know… very much liked, and under this guidance, we form groups. All this is coming because this is the Last Judgment. I have told you, this is the Last Judgment. And this Last Judgment will really decide who are to be saved and who are to be doomed completely. It is a very, very serious thing. All of them who are aware should think about it. Little patchwork here, and a little patchwork is not going to do. Whatever you may try, unless and until you transform human being, it cannot be saved. This transformation is not an impossible thing, it is not difficult. This is the time for transformation, this is a chance for transformation. And within us it is placed, the power, as power it is described, is the mystical feminine power within us. All of them have written, I am not the first person to say that, but nobody has been able, perhaps so far, to understand it or to accept it that it should happen to you. You are born, not only to be human beings, but you have to be superhuman. You have to enjoy yourself, your life should be enjoyable, it should be blissful. It should not be a curse, morning till evening worried about this, worried about that. That is why you are created, because God had no intention of creating people who will be all the time worried how to quarrel, how to fight, how to save, but people who will live in complete harmony, peace and joy. That is why we are created, that is our destiny. That is not just I am telling you, but it is a fact. So we will have to be, we have to be transformed. This transformation is not difficult, but what I find you could get satisfied with anything. Hindus will go to the temple getting " oh we have done great " , Christians go to the church and think they have done very good, Muslims will go and pray and think that they are great. What have they achieved? Face yourselves, please, face your limitations, face your, face your problems and see for yourself: Have you been able to solve your problems? Have you been able to save yourself from calamities? . . . I am not only talking, but I want you all to get your self- realization. What is self-realization? It is to know your self. You do not know your self, you do not know. You are living in this world without knowing your self, can you imagine? You do not know what you are, you do not know that you are the Spirit, and that you are the source of knowledge, of pure knowledge. I find people sitting in a meeting listening to some babaji who is telling them some story, very happy. This is not going to give you the reality, and the truth. If you want to have reality and truth, then please try to understand that something has to happen, to you some transformation has to take place. . . . These are emergencies, you are living in very emergent conditions, try to understand. And I want to warn you that if you do not go deep into yourself and find out what you are and take to your transformation, anything is possible: all kinds of diseases happening to you, all kinds of new problems of children coming up, all kinds of national problems are there, all kinds of international problems are there, that people cannot help it. So we have to get out of this and become a solid personality of truth. We don not know what the truth is. We are worse than animals whose eyes are open, while our eyes are closed. It is not to condemn you or anything, but to make you alert and aware that human beings have to change. Otherwise you just, you come to my lecture, tomorrow you will come to another lecture. That is all, it is an everyday, sort of a nice entertainment. But when I see the destiny, I don't know how many will be going, how many will be finished, what will happen to them, what diseases they will get, what problems they will get, what will happen to their children, what will happen to their country, and what will happen with the whole world. Just widen your vision. My vision is that all the people of the world should get transformation. We have enemies within ourselves, and when we talk of jihad we talk that you have to fight your enemies within yourself. What are our enemies? These days the worst is greed, there is greed. With that greed people can do anything they want, all kinds of things are happening out of greed. They will have money, they will have all kinds of facilities, but still this greed is such a satanic thing that you do not even see what you have. And you want to have more and more, deceive people, deceive your ……… , deceive everyone and ……… . You have heard so much about Spirit and Spiritual life. But, have you reached that point? Even when you read zen-system, tao-system, Bible, Koran, anything. Do you know how to reach that point of the Spirit? Not yet, not yet. You have to know that, because you are very great, you are very precious and you are so beautiful within. But you are not aware of it! You have to become that. That becoming is very important. And for that already God Almighty has organised within you, which is called as Kundalini, which can be awakened and its awakening can give you self realisation, can give you self knowledge, as you call atma sakshat. That is what is very, very important in your life to have it, and when it is free, you cannot pay for it. How much can you pay? When it is absolutely free, why don't you take your self realisation? And why don't you grow?. . . Mohammed Saab has said clearly: " At the time of resurrection your hands will speak. " Are they speaking? Hindus know about it, that we have to get our self realisation. No use just listening to these babajis and giving them money. All this kind of rituals that we are doing, that our forefathers have been doing. What have we achieved? Nothing! So now it is important for us to know that we have to have our evolution reaching to the point of self realisation. If we were perfect, there would have been no problem. If we were self realised people, there would have been no problem. All kinds of selfishness, all kinds of limits we have put around us, all kinds of conditioning and ego, which have been working our life and have been ruling us, we have to get over it. And once you get over it you get united. Nobody has to tell you that you get united. You lose all misidentifications. Your misidentifications are that, that you belong to this country, you belong to this religion, you belong to that. You belong to nothing. You belong to the Kingdom of God. That is what we have to achieve, and you should be one there. But if you like storytelling there is no end to it. But you are wasting your time! The time is running short. I have been now here for the last, I don't know, 20 years or so. I worked very hard, but what I find, that people do not realise what they are supposed to do. They like people who will just say something very simple, or who are to serve visual entertainment. So the whole humanity has to understand that destiny of destruction is to be about today, complete destruction is to be about. And very simple is that you enter into the Kingdom of God, which is very easy, no time to pay anything, you do not have to work out anything. You take your self realisation, and then at home you spend about 10 minutes meditating. Only your mind is all the time justifying your misbehaviour. I call it misbehaviour because it is against the truth, it is against God's wish, it is against humanity, and it will destroy all the good things. All this misidentifications have to be dropped and you have to know that we are all one, we are all one, we are all global, we are not separated by colour, race or religion. We should know we are all one, and that oneness should not be established by slogans or by shouting. What should be that oneness is to be felt within. It is not artificial, it has to be real, very real oneness. And that comes to you once you realise that you are part and parcel of the whole. Religions have brought you up to this point of awareness, not your fighting, not your killing. Why, why human beings have diverted themselves? Because of complete ignorance of righteousness , because of complete greed of oneself, oneself, just yourself, all your family, at the most all your relations. Why do you want to keep it yourself? You are the Spirit. Spirit is the ocean, ocean of knowledge, is the ocean of love, is the ocean of all blessings. So we have to decide. Today I have to request that there is not so much time left. We have to decide that we have to become the Spirit. That is what all the religions have brought, but how to do it was not so very much explained, and it did not work out. Some of them did get it, but they were not trusted, nobody listened to them. Even people killed them and tortured them and crucified them. But now please, all of you, try to understand the value of that ………. Why are you humans? Why are you created? What is the purpose behind this? Are you going to be driven by nonsensical ideas? Are you going to be finished by all sorts of dividing factors? No, no. You are all going to get your self realisation, and you are going to understand the value of your life. The problem is, you will get your realisation in the sense, the power within you will rise. It is very well organised. Actually, God is a great creator, how he has balanced and how it works out is remarkable, every detail He has done it. With that happening, is not sufficient. You enter into, say, a palace and then you go round and see for yourself how beautiful you are, what beautiful things God has made, then grow into it. Once you are grown into it then you will realise what a great thing you are, the greatest gem, the greatest person so loving, that having some writing under statues. Nobody tries to understand what were they doing, how they worked. So, tonight we can have the experience, the experience of the Spirit. It is a very unusual rare thing, never used to have one like that. But it is now, so why not take advantage of it. Please, be ready for that, accept it, take it and become. Becoming is the point. What you become is the point, and what you make out of this whole human civilisation is your problem, not mine. I can help, I can work it out. So I would request you all to now get ready for self realisation. . . . This power Kundalini is placed in the triangular bone, known as sacrum, is sacred and it rises through 6 centres of the parasympathic and ultimately pierces through the fontanel bone area which was a soft bone in your head, on top of your head, when you were a child it was a soft bone. It pierces through that and enters into the subtle energy of all pervading power of divine love. They call it by different names, they call it Paramchaitanya, they call it Chaitanya, some call it as Ruh. You may call it by any name, it is the Love of God. Once you get connected with you, when you start feeling on your fingers some sort of a breeze, first some people will get hot, does not matter, but then it cools down and you get the cool breeze of the Holy Ghost everyone. And it starts flowing. " Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi July 14, 2001 - Royal Albert Hall, London, UK " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org Mon May 15, 2006 8:19 am Who are the criminally negligent custodians of Shri Mataji's Message and Will? , " my2pai " <my2pai wrote: > > And yet the supposed custodians of Shri Mataji's Message and, > purportedly, of Shri Mataji's Will, have, with an attitude of > almost criminal negligence, continually underplayed and > understated the import of the Great Incarnation. While the false > gurus are masquerading as great saints and even incarnations, http://www.divine-mother.org/ http://www.divinemother.net/ http://www.motherdivine.org/ http://www.gurumaa.com/ http://www.kashi.org/ http://www.tara.org/jetsunma.htm http://www.yogachicago.com/may04/karuna.shtml http://www.geocities.com/ascendedmaster/MotherMeera.html http://www.pathofthemother.com/play3.html http://www.adidam.org/ http://www.narayaniamma.org/ http://home.arcor.de/maatrix/amma.html http://www.karunamayi.org/HB-Home.html http://www.ammachi.org/ http://www.globeworks.com/appaji/ http://www.babajiashram.org/ http://www.sathyasai.org/ http://www.3ho.org/YogiBhajan.html http://www.siddhayoga.org/shree-muktananda-ashram.html http://www.ashram.org/ http://www.thefamily.org/ourfounder/ourfounder.htm http://www.swadhyay.org/ http://www.louixdordempriey.com/news.html http://www.dattapeetham.com/ http://www.abo.fi/comprel/joel.htm http://www.inricristo.org.br/pg.ingles.html http://www.kaleshwar.org/en/index http://www.onenessuniversity.org/ http://www.miracle.org/ http://www.ex-premie.org/ http://www.avatarmeherbaba.org/ http://unification.org/ http://www.narayanipeedam.org/ http://www.shantimandir.com/ http://www.sripremananda.org/ http://www.srcm.org/index.jsp http://www.ramakrishnananda.com/view.php?page=442 & Disp=82 > the marketers of Shri Adi Shakti's Incarnation have packaged > Sahaja Yoga as a technique for stress relief and pretend that Shri > Mataji is just an ordinary guru discoursing on the subtle system: > such a grotesque and unconcionable understatement of the greatness > of the Divine Incarnation of Shri Adi Shakti. > Sahaja Yoga is a unique method of meditation based on an experience called Self Realization (Kundalini awakening) that can occur within each human being. Through this process an inner transformation takes place by which one becomes moral, united, integrated and balanced. http://www.sahajayoga.org/ http://www.sahajayoga.org/worldwidecontacts/default.asp All Sahaja Yoga meetings are offered free of charge, usually on a weekly basis. Calling the center located in your country you will be able to get information about the programs which are closest to you. Not all countries are listed - if your country is not on the list, call the number corresponding to the nearest country to find out about possible local Sahaja Yoga contacts which are not enlisted here. Algeria (213)21.63.28.40 / msaitchaalal Argentina (54 11) 4863 3291 / sahajayogaargentina Aruba (297) 839 662 Australia (61 2) 9416 2373 Austria (43 1) 609 11 31 Bahrain 00-973-39067465, 00-973-39575301 / kmadhu60, prakashsahaj Belarus (7 0172) 62 68 27 Belgium (32 83) 21 47 31 Benin (229) 21 25 25 Bhutan (00975) 2-326460 / rajeshkafley Bolivia (591 42) 47740 Bulgaria +359 888 77 58 12 Cameroon (237) 22 73 97 Canada (1 416) 614-7338 : (1 604) 597-8440 Chile (56 2) 2207237 / sahajayogachile Colombia (571) 214-3971 Cyprus +357 24 639108 / +357 99 832868 / +357 99605826 / inna Czech Republic (420 2) 9972310 Denmark 45 38118915 / info Estonia 37255-640333 / sahaja.yoga Finland (358 9) 855 0934 France (33 1) 43 30 57 25 Georgia, Republic of (7 8832) 38 95 24 Germany (49 3322) 20 88 70 Greece (30 1) 822 9262 / inna Hong Kong (852) 25045260 Hungary (36 1) 218-0493 Iceland 00354\8454812 / ritadefruyt Indonesia (including East Timor) 62 21 544 6672 / SahajaYogaIndonesia Ireland (Eire) (3531) 282 5542 Israel (972 3) 506 1214 / sy_israel Italy (39 744) 919-851 Japan (81-3)3469-1027, (81-426)78-2923 / hitoshii Kazakhstan (7 3252) 12 13 68 Kenya 254.2.604999 / moweke Kuwait 6134619 / aciyer Latvia (00 371) 9195326, (00 371) 7532656 / sahajayoga Lithuania (37 02) 47 81 43 Macedonia, Republic of (389 91) 22 62 75 Malaysia 603- 6140 3388 or 6012- 273 86 22 / sahajayogamsia Mexico (52 5) 575 1949 Moldova +3732 2 73 87 80, 29 46 02 / irinanori, corina1970 Nepal (01) 482 735 / sykp Netherlands (31 20) 697-2038 New Zealand (64 9) 418 3824 Norway (4766) 66915608 Peru (Home) 511 264-6800, (Cell) 511 9817-3805 / crramosh, crramos Poland (48 22) 751 3520 Portugal (351 1) 396 3149 Reunion 0262 412028 / nirmal-run Romania (40 1) 777 7216 Russia (7 095) 541 3745 / info Seychelles (248) 322 743 Sierra Leone (232) 25316 Singapore (65) 6348 9769 / vigvikas Slovak Republic (Slovakia) (42 17) 54415493 Slovenia 386-41-428333 South Africa (011) 864 - 3410 / ramoodley Spain (0034) 91 715 8788 Sweden +46/8-7610033 / froelen Switzerland (41 22) 779 20 37 Taiwan (886 2) 715 5208 Thailand (662) 712 14 18 Tunisia (43 1) 381 559 Turkey (0090) 212 248 31 22 Ukraine (380-44) 442 68 71 United Arab Emirates (971) 426 36327 United Kingdom (44 181) 930 5621 Uruguay (59 82) 60 77 09 Zambia (260) 1 291 378 So who are the supposed custodians of Shri Mataji's Message and, purportedly, of Shri Mataji's Will, who have, with an attitude of almost criminal negligence, continually underplayed and understated the import of the Great Incarnation? 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Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 hello brother jagbir what can we do for that?i think it is very dangerous for sahaja yoga if the negativity possessed the leader and the highest members of WCASY,according to me, every one have to work himself to grow and to establish a personnel relationship with our HOLLY MOTHER, i also think that WCASY is an other illusion of MAHAMAYa.if we wan to help humanity and sahaja yoga, we have to grow and see SHRI MATAJI in our meditation whose can give us all instructions.you know in my country(cameroon)the problem of leadership have separated our collectif nowaday, we have three collectif and each collectif leader`s claim that he are national leader and we can be unite as children of SHRI MATAJI what can i do?today in WCASY we havent african member what is meaning?is no sahaja yoga in AFRICA?if it that can somebody come and help us to be sahaja yogi?why mother does no come in AFRICA? because of poverty? isaacjagbir singh <adishakti_org a écrit : To all SYs and seekers of Truth,Perhaps the most famous venue where Shri Mataji talked about the Resurrection and Last Judgment to thousands of complete strangers/public is the Royal Albert Hall, London, UK. i quote Her:"All this is coming because this is the Last Judgment. I have told you, this is the Last Judgment. And this Last Judgment will really decide who are to be saved and who are to be doomed completely. It is a very, very serious thing. All of them who are aware should think about it."She has done so all over the world over the years and decades, time and again exhorting and pleading with humans to transform themselves as the Last Judgment and Resurrection is taking place. However, even as the eleventh hour today ticks on, the criminally negligent custodians of Shri Mataji's Message and Will continue to suppress Her Divine Message. The infamous Inquisytion of WCASY is instead used against those who try to follow Shri Mataji's direction and vision. Yet again i have to repeat that a satanic negativity has possessed our leaders and WCASY council members and they are now actively preventing the rest of humanity from knowing about God Almighty's Last Judgment and Resurrection. A powerful evil force is preventing the culmination of God's Plan by overpowering and possessing our leaders with the fear and apprehension of speaking about the Last Judgment and Resurrection that Shri Mataji repeated hundreds of times. And tens of thousands of SYs influenced by such leaders are following them to spread the false SYSSR!Below is the speech (from which the quote above was taken) given by Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi on July 14, 2001 at the Royal Albert Hall, London, UK. The present-day WCASY council members and leaders should have admonished Shri Mataji for publicly speaking about the Resurrection and Last Judgment in such a prominent venue. However, the Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion is a subtle way of achieving just that behind Shri Mataji's back. Her present incapacitation will only embolden the criminally negligent custodians of Shri Mataji's Message and Will. This forum and the websites are the only obstacles left in their path of complete domination of Shri Mataji's Advent, Vision and Divine Message. We must never waiver or fail in our resolve to defeat this negativity.Jai Shri Ganapathi,jagbir--------"I bow to all the seekers of Truth.Some of you have found the Truth, some of you have not found it fully, and some of you have not found it at all. But if you look around in today's situation, you will have to admit there is a big turmoil going on. Countries after countries are taking to all kinds of wrong things. A lot of cold war is on, people are killing each other, destroying beautiful places, cutting each other's throat for nothing at all. We are all human beings created by God, God Almighty has created them and has brought them to this level of human awareness.At this juncture one can see where are we going in a collective way. This is, where have we to reach or is it our destiny? Is this the destiny of human beings, to be destroyed by each other for land or for anything else? Think of the whole world as one and think what is happening all over. Every day you read newspaper, every day there is some sort of a horrible news about horrible things people are doing to each other for no rhyme or reason. We have to think: what is the destiny, where are we going? Are we going to Hell or to Heaven? What is our situation around? Can you help it?What is wrong with human beings is: they are still in the complete control of ignorance. I would call it ignorance, and in that ignorance, in that darkness, they are doing this horrible thing. Nobody wants to understand that what we are doing is nothing but complete destruction. Is that our destiny? That we are going to get destroyed completely? What good are we doing under the name of some sort of nationality or maybe some religion, all kinds of things which are good. But we are doing all wrong things: fighting. Fighting is not nobility, we hate anybody who can excite our hatred. It is very much, I don't know… very much liked, and under this guidance, we form groups.All this is coming because this is the Last Judgment. I have told you, this is the Last Judgment. And this Last Judgment will really decide who are to be saved and who are to be doomed completely. It is a very, very serious thing. All of them who are aware should think about it. Little patchwork here, and a little patchwork is not going to do. Whatever you may try, unless and until you transform human being, it cannot be saved. This transformation is not an impossible thing, it is not difficult. This is the time for transformation, this is a chance for transformation. And within us it is placed, the power, as power it is described, is the mystical feminine power within us. All of them have written, I am not the first person to say that, but nobody has been able, perhaps so far, to understand it or to accept it that it should happen to you. You are born, not only to be human beings, but you have to be superhuman. You have to enjoy yourself, your life should be enjoyable, it should be blissful. It should not be a curse, morning till evening worried about this, worried about that. That is why you are created, because God had no intention of creating people who will be all the time worried how to quarrel, how to fight, how to save, but people who will live in complete harmony, peace and joy. That is why we are created, that is our destiny. That is not just I am telling you, but it is a fact. So we will have to be, we have to be transformed. This transformation is not difficult, but what I find you could get satisfied with anything. Hindus will go to the temple getting "oh we have done great", Christians go to the church and think they have done very good, Muslims will go and pray and think that they are great. What have they achieved? Face yourselves, please, face your limitations, face your, face your problems and see for yourself: Have you been able to solve your problems? Have you been able to save yourself from calamities? . . . I am not only talking, but I want you all to get your self-realization. What is self-realization? It is to know your self. You do not know your self, you do not know. You are living in this world without knowing your self, can you imagine? You do not know what you are, you do not know that you are the Spirit, and that you are the source of knowledge, of pure knowledge. I find people sitting in a meeting listening to some babaji who is telling them some story, very happy. This is not going to give you the reality, and the truth. If you want to have reality and truth, then please try to understand that something has to happen, to you some transformation has to take place. . . . These are emergencies, you are living in very emergent conditions, try to understand. And I want to warn you that if you do not go deep into yourself and find out what you are and take to your transformation, anything is possible: all kinds of diseases happening to you, all kinds of new problems of children coming up, all kinds of national problems are there, all kinds of international problems are there, that people cannot help it. So we have to get out of this and become a solid personality of truth. We don not know what the truth is. We are worse than animals whose eyes are open, while our eyes are closed. It is not to condemn you or anything, but to make you alert and aware that human beings have to change. Otherwise you just, you come to my lecture, tomorrow you will come to another lecture. That is all, it is an everyday, sort of a nice entertainment. But when I see the destiny, I don't know how many will be going, how many will be finished, what will happen to them, what diseases they will get, what problems they will get, what will happen to their children, what will happen to their country, and what will happen with the whole world. Just widen your vision. My vision is that all the people of the world should get transformation. We have enemies within ourselves, and when we talk of jihad we talk that you have to fight your enemies within yourself. What are our enemies? These days the worst is greed, there is greed. With that greed people can do anything they want, all kinds of things are happening out of greed. They will have money, they will have all kinds of facilities, but still this greed is such a satanic thing that you do not even see what you have. And you want to have more and more, deceive people, deceive your ……… , deceive everyone and ……… . You have heard so much about Spirit and Spiritual life. But, have you reached that point? Even when you read zen-system, tao-system, Bible, Koran, anything. Do you know how to reach that point of the Spirit? Not yet, not yet. You have to know that, because you are very great, you are very precious and you are so beautiful within. But you are not aware of it! You have to become that. That becoming is very important. And for that already God Almighty has organised within you, which is called as Kundalini, which can be awakened and its awakening can give you self realisation, can give you self knowledge, as you call atma sakshat. That is what is very, very important in your life to have it, and when it is free, you cannot pay for it. How much can you pay? When it is absolutely free, why don't you take your self realisation? And why don't you grow?. . . Mohammed Saab has said clearly: "At the time of resurrection your hands will speak." Are they speaking? Hindus know about it, that we have to get our self realisation. No use just listening to these babajis and giving them money. All this kind of rituals that we are doing, that our forefathers have been doing. What have we achieved? Nothing! So now it is important for us to know that we have to have our evolution reaching to the point of self realisation. If we were perfect, there would have been no problem. If we were self realised people, there would have been no problem. All kinds of selfishness, all kinds of limits we have put around us, all kinds of conditioning and ego, which have been working our life and have been ruling us, we have to get over it. And once you get over it you get united. Nobody has to tell you that you get united. You lose all misidentifications. Your misidentifications are that, that you belong to this country, you belong to this religion, you belong to that. You belong to nothing. You belong to the Kingdom of God. That is what we have to achieve, and you should be one there. But if you like storytelling there is no end to it. But you are wasting your time! The time is running short. I have been now here for the last, I don't know, 20 years or so. I worked very hard, but what I find, that people do not realise what they are supposed to do. They like people who will just say something very simple, or who are to serve visual entertainment. So the whole humanity has to understand that destiny of destruction is to be about today, complete destruction is to be about. And very simple is that you enter into the Kingdom of God, which is very easy, no time to pay anything, you do not have to work out anything. You take your self realisation, and then at home you spend about 10 minutes meditating. Only your mind is all the time justifying your misbehaviour. I call it misbehaviour because it is against the truth, it is against God's wish, it is against humanity, and it will destroy all the good things. All this misidentifications have to be dropped and you have to know that we are all one, we are all one, we are all global, we are not separated by colour, race or religion. We should know we are all one, and that oneness should not be established by slogans or by shouting. What should be that oneness is to be felt within. It is not artificial, it has to be real, very real oneness. And that comes to you once you realise that you are part and parcel of the whole. Religions have brought you up to this point of awareness, not your fighting, not your killing. Why, why human beings have diverted themselves? Because of complete ignorance of righteousness , because of complete greed of oneself, oneself, just yourself, all your family, at the most all your relations. Why do you want to keep it yourself? You are the Spirit. Spirit is the ocean, ocean of knowledge, is the ocean of love, is the ocean of all blessings. So we have to decide. Today I have to request that there is not so much time left. We have to decide that we have to become the Spirit. That is what all the religions have brought, but how to do it was not so very much explained, and it did not work out. Some of them did get it, but they were not trusted, nobody listened to them. Even people killed them and tortured them and crucified them. But now please, all of you, try to understand the value of that ………. Why are you humans? Why are you created? What is the purpose behind this? Are you going to be driven by nonsensical ideas? Are you going to be finished by all sorts of dividing factors? No, no. You are all going to get your self realisation, and you are going to understand the value of your life. The problem is, you will get your realisation in the sense, the power within you will rise. It is very well organised. Actually, God is a great creator, how he has balanced and how it works out is remarkable, every detail He has done it. With that happening, is not sufficient. You enter into, say, a palace and then you go round and see for yourself how beautiful you are, what beautiful things God has made, then grow into it. Once you are grown into it then you will realise what a great thing you are, the greatest gem, the greatest person so loving, that having some writing under statues. Nobody tries to understand what were they doing, how they worked. So, tonight we can have the experience, the experience of the Spirit. It is a very unusual rare thing, never used to have one like that. But it is now, so why not take advantage of it. Please, be ready for that, accept it, take it and become. Becoming is the point. What you become is the point, and what you make out of this whole human civilisation is your problem, not mine. I can help, I can work it out. So I would request you all to now get ready for self realisation. . . . This power Kundalini is placed in the triangular bone, known as sacrum, is sacred and it rises through 6 centres of the parasympathic and ultimately pierces through the fontanel bone area which was a soft bone in your head, on top of your head, when you were a child it was a soft bone. It pierces through that and enters into the subtle energy of all pervading power of divine love. They call it by different names, they call it Paramchaitanya, they call it Chaitanya, some call it as Ruh. You may call it by any name, it is the Love of God. Once you get connected with you, when you start feeling on your fingers some sort of a breeze, first some people will get hot, does not matter, but then it cools down and you get the cool breeze of the Holy Ghost everyone. And it starts flowing." Shri Mataji Nirmala DeviJuly 14, 2001 - Royal Albert Hall, London, UK"jagbir singh" <adishakti_org Mon May 15, 2006 8:19 am Who are the criminally negligent custodians of Shri Mataji's Message and Will? , "my2pai" <my2paiwrote:>> And yet the supposed custodians of Shri Mataji's Message and,> purportedly, of Shri Mataji's Will, have, with an attitude of> almost criminal negligence, continually underplayed and> understated the import of the Great Incarnation. While the false> gurus are masquerading as great saints and even incarnations,http://www.divine-mother.org/http://www.divinemother.net/http://www.motherdivine.org/http://www.gurumaa.com/http://www.kashi.org/http://www.tara.org/jetsunma.htmhttp://www.yogachicago.com/may04/karuna.shtmlhttp://www.geocities.com/ascendedmaster/MotherMeera.htmlhttp://www.pathofthemother.com/play3.htmlhttp://www.adidam.org/http://www.narayaniamma.org/http://home.arcor.de/maatrix/amma.htmlhttp://www.karunamayi.org/HB-Home.htmlhttp://www.ammachi.org/http://www.globeworks.com/appaji/http://www.babajiashram.org/http://www.sathyasai.org/http://www.3ho.org/YogiBhajan.htmlhttp://www.siddhayoga.org/shree-muktananda-ashram.htmlhttp://www.ashram.org/http://www.thefamily.org/ourfounder/ourfounder.htmhttp://www.swadhyay.org/http://www.louixdordempriey.com/news.htmlhttp://www.dattapeetham.com/http://www.abo.fi/comprel/joel.htmhttp://www.inricristo.org.br/pg.ingles.htmlhttp://www.kaleshwar.org/en/indexhttp://www.onenessuniversity.org/http://www.miracle.org/http://www.ex-premie.org/http://www.avatarmeherbaba.org/http://unification.org/http://www.narayanipeedam.org/http://www.shantimandir.com/http://www.sripremananda.org/http://www.srcm.org/index.jsphttp://www.ramakrishnananda.com/view.php?page=D2 & Disp=‚> the marketers of Shri Adi Shakti's Incarnation have packaged> Sahaja Yoga as a technique for stress relief and pretend that Shri> Mataji is just an ordinary guru discoursing on the subtle system:> such a grotesque and unconcionable understatement of the greatness> of the Divine Incarnation of Shri Adi Shakti.>Sahaja Yoga is a unique method of meditation based on an experiencecalled Self Realization (Kundalini awakening) that can occur withineach human being.Through this process an inner transformation takes place by whichone becomes moral, united, integrated and balanced.http://www.sahajayoga.org/http://www.sahajayoga.org/worldwidecontacts/default.aspAll Sahaja Yoga meetings are offered free of charge, usually on aweekly basis. Calling the center located in your country you will beable to get information about the programs which are closest to you.Not all countries are listed - if your country is not on the list,call the number corresponding to the nearest country to find outabout possible local Sahaja Yoga contacts which are not enlistedhere.Algeria (213)21.63.28.40 / msaitchaalalArgentina (54 11) 4863 3291 / sahajayogaargentinaAruba (297) 839 662Australia (61 2) 9416 2373Austria (43 1) 609 11 31Bahrain 00-973-39067465, 00-973-39575301 / kmadhu60,prakashsahajBelarus (7 0172) 62 68 27Belgium (32 83) 21 47 31Benin (229) 21 25 25Bhutan (00975) 2-326460 / rajeshkafleyBolivia (591 42) 47740Bulgaria +359 888 77 58 12Cameroon (237) 22 73 97Canada (1 416) 614-7338 : (1 604) 597-8440Chile (56 2) 2207237 / sahajayogachileColombia (571) 214-3971Cyprus +357 24 639108 / +357 99 832868 / +357 99605826 /innaCzech Republic (420 2) 9972310Denmark 45 38118915 / infoEstonia 37255-640333 / sahaja.yogaFinland (358 9) 855 0934France (33 1) 43 30 57 25Georgia, Republic of (7 8832) 38 95 24Germany (49 3322) 20 88 70Greece (30 1) 822 9262 / innaHong Kong (852) 25045260Hungary (36 1) 218-0493Iceland 00354\8454812 / ritadefruytIndonesia (including East Timor) 62 21 544 6672 /SahajaYogaIndonesiaIreland (Eire) (3531) 282 5542Israel (972 3) 506 1214 / sy_israelItaly (39 744) 919-851Japan (81-3)3469-1027, (81-426)78-2923 / hitoshiiKazakhstan (7 3252) 12 13 68Kenya 254.2.604999 / mowekeKuwait 6134619 / aciyerLatvia (00 371) 9195326, (00 371) 7532656 / sahajayogaLithuania (37 02) 47 81 43Macedonia, Republic of (389 91) 22 62 75Malaysia 603- 6140 3388 or 6012- 273 86 22 /sahajayogamsiaMexico (52 5) 575 1949Moldova +3732 2 73 87 80, 29 46 02 / irinanori,corina1970Nepal (01) 482 735 / sykpNetherlands (31 20) 697-2038New Zealand (64 9) 418 3824Norway (4766) 66915608Peru (Home) 511 264-6800, (Cell) 511 9817-3805 /crramosh, crramosPoland (48 22) 751 3520Portugal (351 1) 396 3149Reunion 0262 412028 / nirmal-runRomania (40 1) 777 7216Russia (7 095) 541 3745 / infoSeychelles (248) 322 743Sierra Leone (232) 25316Singapore (65) 6348 9769 / vigvikasSlovak Republic (Slovakia) (42 17) 54415493Slovenia 386-41-428333South Africa (011) 864 - 3410 / ramoodleySpain (0034) 91 715 8788Sweden +46/8-7610033 / froelenSwitzerland (41 22) 779 20 37Taiwan (886 2) 715 5208Thailand (662) 712 14 18Tunisia (43 1) 381 559Turkey (0090) 212 248 31 22Ukraine (380-44) 442 68 71United Arab Emirates (971) 426 36327United Kingdom (44 181) 930 5621Uruguay (59 82) 60 77 09Zambia (260) 1 291 378So who are the supposed custodians of Shri Mataji's Message and,purportedly, of Shri Mataji's Will, who have, with an attitude ofalmost criminal negligence, continually underplayed and understatedthe import of the Great Incarnation?Rajesh ShahGregoire de KalbermattenDavid SpiroVijay NalgirkarManoj KumarEduardo MarinoWolfgang HacklMajid GolpourPhillip ZeissDerek LeeArneau de KalbermattenNese AlganIvan TanKaran KhuranaAlex HenshawAldo GandolfiRajiv KumarBrian WellsDavid DunphyZafar RashidBohdan ShehovichGagan AhluwaliaPaul EllisAlan WherryAlan PereiraSandeep GadkaryMihaela BalasescuViktor BondarDmitry KorotaevAlexander SolodyankinChris KyriacouAdvisors to the Council:Gagan Ahluwalia: Financial, Accounting and Property mattersPaul Ellis: Legal AffairsAlan Wherry : Publication Issues/message/6157 Mail réinvente le mail ! 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Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 Jai Shri Mataji! dear brothers,sisters andmembers of this group, I have been reading the posts here for the last months but this last one gave me such a left Sahasrara/left agnya catch when read just the title! Do you think these posts will help a newcomer?Or will they scare them and send them away from Sahaja Yoga?Also,please,know that you are talking about a council whose Head is Shri Mataji Herself!How can you say words like >> negativity possessed the leader and the highest members of WCASY ?????Mother is the LEADER!For God's Sake, put a stop to this,it is sacrilige! - isaac iba Thursday, May 25, 2006 6:22 PM RE: A satanic negativity has possessed our leaders and WCASY council members hello brother jagbir what can we do for that?i think it is very dangerous for sahaja yoga if the negativity possessed the leader and the highest members of WCASY,according to me, every one have to work himself to grow and to establish a personnel relationship with our HOLLY MOTHER, i also think that WCASY is an other illusion of MAHAMAYa.if we wan to help humanity and sahaja yoga, we have to grow and see SHRI MATAJI in our meditation whose can give us all instructions.you know in my country(cameroon)the problem of leadership have separated our collectif nowaday, we have three collectif and each collectif leader`s claim that he are national leader and we can be unite as children of SHRI MATAJI what can i do?today in WCASY we havent african member what is meaning?is no sahaja yoga in AFRICA?if it that can somebody come and help us to be sahaja yogi?why mother does no come in AFRICA? because of poverty? isaacjagbir singh <adishakti_org a écrit : To all SYs and seekers of Truth,Perhaps the most famous venue where Shri Mataji talked about the Resurrection and Last Judgment to thousands of complete strangers/public is the Royal Albert Hall, London, UK. i quote Her:"All this is coming because this is the Last Judgment. I have told you, this is the Last Judgment. And this Last Judgment will really decide who are to be saved and who are to be doomed completely. It is a very, very serious thing. All of them who are aware should think about it."She has done so all over the world over the years and decades, time and again exhorting and pleading with humans to transform themselves as the Last Judgment and Resurrection is taking place. However, even as the eleventh hour today ticks on, the criminally negligent custodians of Shri Mataji's Message and Will continue to suppress Her Divine Message. The infamous Inquisytion of WCASY is instead used against those who try to follow Shri Mataji's direction and vision. Yet again i have to repeat that a satanic negativity has possessed our leaders and WCASY council members and they are now actively preventing the rest of humanity from knowing about God Almighty's Last Judgment and Resurrection. A powerful evil force is preventing the culmination of God's Plan by overpowering and possessing our leaders with the fear and apprehension of speaking about the Last Judgment and Resurrection that Shri Mataji repeated hundreds of times. And tens of thousands of SYs influenced by such leaders are following them to spread the false SYSSR!Below is the speech (from which the quote above was taken) given by Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi on July 14, 2001 at the Royal Albert Hall, London, UK. The present-day WCASY council members and leaders should have admonished Shri Mataji for publicly speaking about the Resurrection and Last Judgment in such a prominent venue. However, the Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion is a subtle way of achieving just that behind Shri Mataji's back. Her present incapacitation will only embolden the criminally negligent custodians of Shri Mataji's Message and Will. This forum and the websites are the only obstacles left in their path of complete domination of Shri Mataji's Advent, Vision and Divine Message. We must never waiver or fail in our resolve to defeat this negativity.Jai Shri Ganapathi,jagbir--------"I bow to all the seekers of Truth.Some of you have found the Truth, some of you have not found it fully, and some of you have not found it at all. But if you look around in today's situation, you will have to admit there is a big turmoil going on. Countries after countries are taking to all kinds of wrong things. A lot of cold war is on, people are killing each other, destroying beautiful places, cutting each other's throat for nothing at all. We are all human beings created by God, God Almighty has created them and has brought them to this level of human awareness.At this juncture one can see where are we going in a collective way. This is, where have we to reach or is it our destiny? Is this the destiny of human beings, to be destroyed by each other for land or for anything else? Think of the whole world as one and think what is happening all over. Every day you read newspaper, every day there is some sort of a horrible news about horrible things people are doing to each other for no rhyme or reason. We have to think: what is the destiny, where are we going? Are we going to Hell or to Heaven? What is our situation around? Can you help it?What is wrong with human beings is: they are still in the complete control of ignorance. I would call it ignorance, and in that ignorance, in that darkness, they are doing this horrible thing. Nobody wants to understand that what we are doing is nothing but complete destruction. Is that our destiny? That we are going to get destroyed completely? What good are we doing under the name of some sort of nationality or maybe some religion, all kinds of things which are good. But we are doing all wrong things: fighting. Fighting is not nobility, we hate anybody who can excite our hatred. It is very much, I don't know… very much liked, and under this guidance, we form groups.All this is coming because this is the Last Judgment. I have told you, this is the Last Judgment. And this Last Judgment will really decide who are to be saved and who are to be doomed completely. It is a very, very serious thing. All of them who are aware should think about it. Little patchwork here, and a little patchwork is not going to do. Whatever you may try, unless and until you transform human being, it cannot be saved. This transformation is not an impossible thing, it is not difficult. This is the time for transformation, this is a chance for transformation. And within us it is placed, the power, as power it is described, is the mystical feminine power within us. All of them have written, I am not the first person to say that, but nobody has been able, perhaps so far, to understand it or to accept it that it should happen to you. You are born, not only to be human beings, but you have to be superhuman. You have to enjoy yourself, your life should be enjoyable, it should be blissful. It should not be a curse, morning till evening worried about this, worried about that. That is why you are created, because God had no intention of creating people who will be all the time worried how to quarrel, how to fight, how to save, but people who will live in complete harmony, peace and joy. That is why we are created, that is our destiny. That is not just I am telling you, but it is a fact. So we will have to be, we have to be transformed. This transformation is not difficult, but what I find you could get satisfied with anything. Hindus will go to the temple getting "oh we have done great", Christians go to the church and think they have done very good, Muslims will go and pray and think that they are great. What have they achieved? Face yourselves, please, face your limitations, face your, face your problems and see for yourself: Have you been able to solve your problems? Have you been able to save yourself from calamities? . . I am not only talking, but I want you all to get your self-realization. What is self-realization? It is to know your self. You do not know your self, you do not know. You are living in this world without knowing your self, can you imagine? You do not know what you are, you do not know that you are the Spirit, and that you are the source of knowledge, of pure knowledge. I find people sitting in a meeting listening to some babaji who is telling them some story, very happy. This is not going to give you the reality, and the truth. If you want to have reality and truth, then please try to understand that something has to happen, to you some transformation has to take place. . . . These are emergencies, you are living in very emergent conditions, try to understand. And I want to warn you that if you do not go deep into yourself and find out what you are and take to your transformation, anything is possible: all kinds of diseases happening to you, all kinds of new problems of children coming up, all kinds of national problems are there, all kinds of international problems are there, that people cannot help it. So we have to get out of this and become a solid personality of truth. We don not know what the truth is. We are worse than animals whose eyes are open, while our eyes are closed. It is not to condemn you or anything, but to make you alert and aware that human beings have to change. Otherwise you just, you come to my lecture, tomorrow you will come to another lecture. That is all, it is an everyday, sort of a nice entertainment. But when I see the destiny, I don't know how many will be going, how many will be finished, what will happen to them, what diseases they will get, what problems they will get, what will happen to their children, what will happen to their country, and what will happen with the whole world. Just widen your vision. My vision is that all the people of the world should get transformation. We have enemies within ourselves, and when we talk of jihad we talk that you have to fight your enemies within yourself. What are our enemies? These days the worst is greed, there is greed. With that greed people can do anything they want, all kinds of things are happening out of greed. They will have money, they will have all kinds of facilities, but still this greed is such a satanic thing that you do not even see what you have. And you want to have more and more, deceive people, deceive your ……… , deceive everyone and ……… . You have heard so much about Spirit and Spiritual life. But, have you reached that point? Even when you read zen-system, tao-system, Bible, Koran, anything. Do you know how to reach that point of the Spirit? Not yet, not yet. You have to know that, because you are very great, you are very precious and you are so beautiful within. But you are not aware of it! You have to become that. That becoming is very important. And for that already God Almighty has organised within you, which is called as Kundalini, which can be awakened and its awakening can give you self realisation, can give you self knowledge, as you call atma sakshat. That is what is very, very important in your life to have it, and when it is free, you cannot pay for it. How much can you pay? When it is absolutely free, why don't you take your self realisation? And why don't you grow?. . Mohammed Saab has said clearly: "At the time of resurrection your hands will speak." Are they speaking? Hindus know about it, that we have to get our self realisation. No use just listening to these babajis and giving them money. All this kind of rituals that we are doing, that our forefathers have been doing. What have we achieved? Nothing! So now it is important for us to know that we have to have our evolution reaching to the point of self realisation. If we were perfect, there would have been no problem. If we were self realised people, there would have been no problem. All kinds of selfishness, all kinds of limits we have put around us, all kinds of conditioning and ego, which have been working our life and have been ruling us, we have to get over it. And once you get over it you get united. Nobody has to tell you that you get united. You lose all misidentifications. Your misidentifications are that, that you belong to this country, you belong to this religion, you belong to that. You belong to nothing. You belong to the Kingdom of God. That is what we have to achieve, and you should be one there. But if you like storytelling there is no end to it. But you are wasting your time! The time is running short. I have been now here for the last, I don't know, 20 years or so. I worked very hard, but what I find, that people do not realise what they are supposed to do. They like people who will just say something very simple, or who are to serve visual entertainment. So the whole humanity has to understand that destiny of destruction is to be about today, complete destruction is to be about. And very simple is that you enter into the Kingdom of God, which is very easy, no time to pay anything, you do not have to work out anything. You take your self realisation, and then at home you spend about 10 minutes meditating. Only your mind is all the time justifying your misbehaviour. I call it misbehaviour because it is against the truth, it is against God's wish, it is against humanity, and it will destroy all the good things. All this misidentifications have to be dropped and you have to know that we are all one, we are all one, we are all global, we are not separated by colour, race or religion. We should know we are all one, and that oneness should not be established by slogans or by shouting. What should be that oneness is to be felt within. It is not artificial, it has to be real, very real oneness. And that comes to you once you realise that you are part and parcel of the whole. Religions have brought you up to this point of awareness, not your fighting, not your killing. Why, why human beings have diverted themselves? Because of complete ignorance of righteousness , because of complete greed of oneself, oneself, just yourself, all your family, at the most all your relations. Why do you want to keep it yourself? You are the Spirit. Spirit is the ocean, ocean of knowledge, is the ocean of love, is the ocean of all blessings. So we have to decide. Today I have to request that there is not so much time left. We have to decide that we have to become the Spirit. That is what all the religions have brought, but how to do it was not so very much explained, and it did not work out. Some of them did get it, but they were not trusted, nobody listened to them. Even people killed them and tortured them and crucified them. But now please, all of you, try to understand the value of that ………. Why are you humans? Why are you created? What is the purpose behind this? Are you going to be driven by nonsensical ideas? Are you going to be finished by all sorts of dividing factors? No, no. You are all going to get your self realisation, and you are going to understand the value of your life. The problem is, you will get your realisation in the sense, the power within you will rise. It is very well organised. Actually, God is a great creator, how he has balanced and how it works out is remarkable, every detail He has done it. With that happening, is not sufficient. You enter into, say, a palace and then you go round and see for yourself how beautiful you are, what beautiful things God has made, then grow into it. Once you are grown into it then you will realise what a great thing you are, the greatest gem, the greatest person so loving, that having some writing under statues. Nobody tries to understand what were they doing, how they worked. So, tonight we can have the experience, the experience of the Spirit. It is a very unusual rare thing, never used to have one like that. But it is now, so why not take advantage of it. Please, be ready for that, accept it, take it and become. Becoming is the point. What you become is the point, and what you make out of this whole human civilisation is your problem, not mine. I can help, I can work it out. So I would request you all to now get ready for self realisation. . . . This power Kundalini is placed in the triangular bone, known as sacrum, is sacred and it rises through 6 centres of the parasympathic and ultimately pierces through the fontanel bone area which was a soft bone in your head, on top of your head, when you were a child it was a soft bone. It pierces through that and enters into the subtle energy of all pervading power of divine love. They call it by different names, they call it Paramchaitanya, they call it Chaitanya, some call it as Ruh. You may call it by any name, it is the Love of God. Once you get connected with you, when you start feeling on your fingers some sort of a breeze, first some people will get hot, does not matter, but then it cools down and you get the cool breeze of the Holy Ghost everyone. And it starts flowing." Shri Mataji Nirmala DeviJuly 14, 2001 - Royal Albert Hall, London, UK"jagbir singh" <adishakti_org Mon May 15, 2006 8:19 am Who are the criminally negligent custodians of Shri Mataji's Message and Will? , "my2pai" <my2paiwrote:>> And yet the supposed custodians of Shri Mataji's Message and,> purportedly, of Shri Mataji's Will, have, with an attitude of> almost criminal negligence, continually underplayed and> understated the import of the Great Incarnation. While the false> gurus are masquerading as great saints and even incarnations,http://www.divine-mother.org/http://www.divinemother.net/http://www.motherdivine.org/http://www.gurumaa.com/http://www.kashi.org/http://www.tara.org/jetsunma.htmhttp://www.yogachicago.com/may04/karuna.shtmlhttp://www.geocities.com/ascendedmaster/MotherMeera.htmlhttp://www.pathofthemother.com/play3.htmlhttp://www.adidam.org/http://www.narayaniamma.org/http://home.arcor.de/maatrix/amma.htmlhttp://www.karunamayi.org/HB-Home.htmlhttp://www.ammachi.org/http://www.globeworks.com/appaji/http://www.babajiashram.org/http://www.sathyasai.org/http://www.3ho.org/YogiBhajanhtmlhttp://www.siddhayoga.org/shree-muktananda-ashram.htmlhttp://www.ashram.org/http://www.thefamily.org/ourfounder/ourfounder.htmhttp://www.swadhyay.org/http://www.louixdordempriey.com/news.htmlhttp://www.dattapeetham.com/http://www.abo.fi/comprel/joel.htmhttp://www.inricristo.org.br/pg.ingles.htmlhttp://www.kaleshwar.org/en/indexhttp://www.onenessuniversity.org/http://www.miracle.org/http://www.ex-premie.org/http://www.avatarmeherbaba.org/http://unification.org/http://www.narayanipeedam.org/http://www.shantimandir.com/http://www.sripremananda.org/http://www.srcm.org/index.jsphttp://www.ramakrishnananda.com/view.php?page=D2 & Disp=‚> the marketers of Shri Adi Shakti's Incarnation have packaged> Sahaja Yoga as a technique for stress relief and pretend that Shri> Mataji is just an ordinary guru discoursing on the subtle system:> such a grotesque and unconcionable understatement of the greatness> of the Divine Incarnation of Shri Adi Shakti.>Sahaja Yoga is a unique method of meditation based on an experiencecalled Self Realization (Kundalini awakening) that can occur withineach human being.Through this process an inner transformation takes place by whichone becomes moral, united, integrated and balanced.http://www.sahajayoga.org/http://www.sahajayoga.org/worldwidecontacts/default.aspAll Sahaja Yoga meetings are offered free of charge, usually on aweekly basis. Calling the center located in your country you will beable to get information about the programs which are closest to you.Not all countries are listed - if your country is not on the list,call the number corresponding to the nearest country to find outabout possible local Sahaja Yoga contacts which are not enlistedhere.Algeria (213)21.63.28.40 / msaitchaalalArgentina (54 11) 4863 3291 / sahajayogaargentinaAruba (297) 839 662Australia (61 2) 9416 2373Austria (43 1) 609 11 31Bahrain 00-973-39067465, 00-973-39575301 / kmadhu60,prakashsahajBelarus (7 0172) 62 68 27Belgium (32 83) 21 47 31Benin (229) 21 25 25Bhutan (00975) 2-326460 / rajeshkafleyBolivia (591 42) 47740Bulgaria +359 888 77 58 12Cameroon (237) 22 73 97Canada (1 416) 614-7338 : (1 604) 597-8440Chile (56 2) 2207237 / sahajayogachileColombia (571) 214-3971Cyprus +357 24 639108 / +357 99 832868 / +357 99605826 /innaCzech Republic (420 2) 9972310Denmark 45 38118915 / infoEstonia 37255-640333 / sahaja.yogaFinland (358 9) 855 0934France (33 1) 43 30 57 25Georgia, Republic of (7 8832) 38 95 24Germany (49 3322) 20 88 70Greece (30 1) 822 9262 / innaHong Kong (852) 25045260Hungary (36 1) 218-0493Iceland 00354\8454812 / ritadefruytIndonesia (including East Timor) 62 21 544 6672 /SahajaYogaIndonesiaIreland (Eire) (3531) 282 5542Israel (972 3) 506 1214 / sy_israelItaly (39 744) 919-851Japan (81-3)3469-1027, (81-426)78-2923 / hitoshiiKazakhstan (7 3252) 12 13 68Kenya 254.2.604999 / mowekeKuwait 6134619 / aciyerLatvia (00 371) 9195326, (00 371) 7532656 / sahajayogaLithuania (37 02) 47 81 43Macedonia, Republic of (389 91) 22 62 75Malaysia 603- 6140 3388 or 6012- 273 86 22 /sahajayogamsiaMexico (52 5) 575 1949Moldova +3732 2 73 87 80, 29 46 02 / irinanori,corina1970Nepal (01) 482 735 / sykpNetherlands (31 20) 697-2038New Zealand (64 9) 418 3824Norway (4766) 66915608Peru (Home) 511 264-6800, (Cell) 511 9817-3805 /crramosh, crramosPoland (48 22) 751 3520Portugal (351 1) 396 3149Reunion 0262 412028 / nirmal-runRomania (40 1) 777 7216Russia (7 095) 541 3745 / infoSeychelles (248) 322 743Sierra Leone (232) 25316Singapore (65) 6348 9769 / vigvikasSlovak Republic (Slovakia) (42 17) 54415493Slovenia 386-41-428333South Africa (011) 864 - 3410 / ramoodleySpain (0034) 91 715 8788Sweden +46/8-7610033 / froelenSwitzerland (41 22) 779 20 37Taiwan (886 2) 715 5208Thailand (662) 712 14 18Tunisia (43 1) 381 559Turkey (0090) 212 248 31 22Ukraine (380-44) 442 68 71United Arab Emirates (971) 426 36327United Kingdom (44 181) 930 5621Uruguay (59 82) 60 77 09Zambia (260) 1 291 378So who are the supposed custodians of Shri Mataji's Message and,purportedly, of Shri Mataji's Will, who have, with an attitude ofalmost criminal negligence, continually underplayed and understatedthe import of the Great Incarnation?Rajesh ShahGregoire de KalbermattenDavid SpiroVijay NalgirkarManoj KumarEduardo MarinoWolfgang HacklMajid GolpourPhillip ZeissDerek LeeArneau de KalbermattenNese AlganIvan TanKaran KhuranaAlex HenshawAldo GandolfiRajiv KumarBrian WellsDavid DunphyZafar RashidBohdan ShehovichGagan AhluwaliaPaul EllisAlan WherryAlan PereiraSandeep GadkaryMihaela BalasescuViktor BondarDmitry KorotaevAlexander SolodyankinChris KyriacouAdvisors to the Council:Gagan Ahluwalia: Financial, Accounting and Property mattersPaul Ellis: Legal AffairsAlan Wherry : Publication Issues/message/6157 Mail réinvente le mail ! 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Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 , " my2pai " <my2pai wrote: > " And yet the supposed custodians of Shri Mataji's Message and, > purportedly, of Shri Mataji's Will, have, with an attitude of > almost criminal negligence, continually underplayed and > understated the import of the Great Incarnation. While the false > gurus are masquerading as great saints and even incarnations. " Dear mprgrandmaster, The above quote reveals the REAL sacrilige. Shri Mataji came on Earth to introduce us to our Mother Within, who is the Holy Spirit of the Christians, the Adi Shakti of the Hindus, the Ruh of Allah of the Muslims, the Maitreya of the Buddhists, the Shekinah in Judaism, the Eykaa Mayee in Sikhism and the Great Mother in Taoism, however this Message is not getting out to the public-at-large by the custodians of Her Writings. Being the custodians of Her Writings is not the same as being the custodians of Her Message. This is maybe where you are getting a bit mixed-up, and therefore getting a headache. You see, 'leadership' is actually a 'myth', according to Shri Mataji. We are promoting Shri Mataji on this forum and not WCASY, as WCASY are not 'doing the right thing' by Shri Mataji. That is why we denounce their actions/inaction. Not only have they done nothing about Her Real Message, they have edited it and organized it into a new subtle system religion which they have organized all SY's to follow in that format. They have created a different Truth, which is aptly labelled as the Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion. Maybe, now you will understand and it will clear up your confusion. i sure hope so, because it would be a shame, if you follow the WCASY SYSSR rather than the Will of Shri Mataji Herself. As already said, WCASY are only the custodians of Her Literature, they are not the custodians of Shri Mataji's Divine Message Itself. What i am saying is that WCASY's words are not to be taken in with bated breath as if they are now the Will of Shri Mataji Herself. However, if you really believe that they are NOW the Will of Shri Mataji Herself, then you have misunderstood Shri Mataji's Truth completely, my dear grand master! You cannot follow God and mammon. Shri Jesus explains this fact:- " No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will hold to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon. " (Matthew 6:24) You see, to 'put it personally', the Holy Spirit Within cannot be my master, if i allow WCASY to be my master. If i allowed WCASY to be my master, and if Jagbir allowed WCASY to be his master, you would not have one forum even telling Her Divine Message to the world. It would only be a subtle system message. Maybe, you can now see more clearly, and i hope that headache can now clear. Because i can tell you....that if you follow WCASY's word, then you are in trouble, for you will never be your own teacher, guru, or even grand master then! i hope this helps, violet , " Jai Shri Mataji " <mprgrandmaster wrote: > > Jai Shri Mataji! > dear brothers,sisters andmembers of this group, > I have been reading the posts here for the last months but this last one gave me such a left Sahasrara/left agnya catch when read just the title! > Do you think these posts will help a newcomer?Or will they scare them and send them away from Sahaja Yoga?Also,please,know that you are talking about a council whose Head is Shri Mataji Herself!How can you say words like > >> negativity possessed the leader and the highest members of WCASY ?????Mother is the LEADER!For God's Sake, put a stop to this,it is sacrilige! > > - > isaac iba > > Thursday, May 25, 2006 6:22 PM > RE: A satanic negativity has possessed our leaders and WCASY council members > > > hello brother jagbir > what can we do for that?i think it is very dangerous for sahaja yoga if the negativity possessed the leader and the highest members of WCASY,according to me, every one have to work himself to grow and to establish a personnel relationship with our HOLLY MOTHER, i also think that WCASY is an other illusion of MAHAMAYa.if we wan to help humanity and sahaja yoga, we have to grow and see SHRI MATAJI in our meditation whose can give us all instructions.you know in my country(cameroon)the problem of leadership have separated our collectif nowaday, we have three collectif and each collectif leader`s claim that he are national leader and we can be unite as children of SHRI MATAJI what can i do? today in WCASY we havent african member what is meaning?is no sahaja yoga in AFRICA?if it that can somebody come and help us to be sahaja yogi?why mother does no come in AFRICA? because of poverty? isaac > > jagbir singh <adishakti_org a écrit : > To all SYs and seekers of Truth, > > Perhaps the most famous venue where Shri Mataji talked about the > Resurrection and Last Judgment to thousands of complete strangers/ > public is the Royal Albert Hall, London, UK. i quote Her: > > " All this is coming because this is the Last Judgment. I have told > you, this is the Last Judgment. And this Last Judgment will really > decide who are to be saved and who are to be doomed completely. It > is a very, very serious thing. All of them who are aware should > think about it. " > > She has done so all over the world over the years and decades, time > and again exhorting and pleading with humans to transform themselves > as the Last Judgment and Resurrection is taking place. > > However, even as the eleventh hour today ticks on, the criminally > negligent custodians of Shri Mataji's Message and Will continue to > suppress Her Divine Message. The infamous Inquisytion of WCASY is > instead used against those who try to follow Shri Mataji's direction > and vision. Yet again i have to repeat that a satanic negativity has > possessed our leaders and WCASY council members and they are now > actively preventing the rest of humanity from knowing about God > Almighty's Last Judgment and Resurrection. A powerful evil force is > preventing the culmination of God's Plan by overpowering and > possessing our leaders with the fear and apprehension of speaking > about the Last Judgment and Resurrection that Shri Mataji repeated > hundreds of times. And tens of thousands of SYs influenced by such > leaders are following them to spread the false SYSSR! > > Below is the speech (from which the quote above was taken) given by > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi on July 14, 2001 at the Royal Albert Hall, > London, UK. The present-day WCASY council members and leaders should > have admonished Shri Mataji for publicly speaking about the > Resurrection and Last Judgment in such a prominent venue. However, > the Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion is a subtle way of achieving > just that behind Shri Mataji's back. Her present incapacitation will > only embolden the criminally negligent custodians of Shri Mataji's > Message and Will. This forum and the websites are the only obstacles > left in their path of complete domination of Shri Mataji's Advent, > Vision and Divine Message. We must never waiver or fail in our > resolve to defeat this negativity. > > Jai Shri Ganapathi, > > > jagbir > > > > -------- > > > " I bow to all the seekers of Truth. > > Some of you have found the Truth, some of you have not found it > fully, and some of you have not found it at all. But if you look > around in today's situation, you will have to admit there is a big > turmoil going on. Countries after countries are taking to all kinds > of wrong things. A lot of cold war is on, people are killing each > other, destroying beautiful places, cutting each other's throat for > nothing at all. We are all human beings created by God, God Almighty > has created them and has brought them to this level of human > awareness. > > At this juncture one can see where are we going in a collective way. > This is, where have we to reach or is it our destiny? Is this the > destiny of human beings, to be destroyed by each other for land or > for anything else? Think of the whole world as one and think what is > happening all over. Every day you read newspaper, every day there is > some sort of a horrible news about horrible things people are doing > to each other for no rhyme or reason. We have to think: what is the > destiny, where are we going? Are we going to Hell or to Heaven? What > is our situation around? Can you help it? > > What is wrong with human beings is: they are still in the complete > control of ignorance. I would call it ignorance, and in that > ignorance, in that darkness, they are doing this horrible thing. > Nobody wants to understand that what we are doing is nothing but > complete destruction. Is that our destiny? That we are going to get > destroyed completely? What good are we doing under the name of some > sort of nationality or maybe some religion, all kinds of things > which are good. But we are doing all wrong things: fighting. > Fighting is not nobility, we hate anybody who can excite our hatred. > It is very much, I don't know. very much liked, and under this > guidance, we form groups. > > All this is coming because this is the Last Judgment. I have told > you, this is the Last Judgment. And this Last Judgment will really > decide who are to be saved and who are to be doomed completely. It > is a very, very serious thing. All of them who are aware should > think about it. Little patchwork here, and a little patchwork is not > going to do. Whatever you may try, unless and until you transform > human being, it cannot be saved. This transformation is not an > impossible thing, it is not difficult. This is the time for > transformation, this is a chance for transformation. And within us > it is placed, the power, as power it is described, is the mystical > feminine power within us. All of them have written, I am not the > first person to say that, but nobody has been able, perhaps so far, > to understand it or to accept it that it should happen to you. > You are born, not only to be human beings, but you have to be > superhuman. You have to enjoy yourself, your life should be > enjoyable, it should be blissful. It should not be a curse, morning > till evening worried about this, worried about that. That is why you > are created, because God had no intention of creating people who > will be all the time worried how to quarrel, how to fight, how to > save, but people who will live in complete harmony, peace and joy. > That is why we are created, that is our destiny. That is not just I > am telling you, but it is a fact. > > So we will have to be, we have to be transformed. This > transformation is not difficult, but what I find you could get > satisfied with anything. Hindus will go to the temple getting " oh we > have done great " , Christians go to the church and think they have > done very good, Muslims will go and pray and think that they are > great. What have they achieved? > > Face yourselves, please, face your limitations, face your, face your > problems and see for yourself: Have you been able to solve your > problems? Have you been able to save yourself from calamities? . . . > I am not only talking, but I want you all to get your self- > realization. What is self-realization? It is to know your self. You > do not know your self, you do not know. You are living in this world > without knowing your self, can you imagine? You do not know what you > are, you do not know that you are the Spirit, and that you are the > source of knowledge, of pure knowledge. I find people sitting in a > meeting listening to some babaji who is telling them some story, > very happy. This is not going to give you the reality, and the > truth. If you want to have reality and truth, then please try to > understand that something has to happen, to you some transformation > has to take place. . . . > > These are emergencies, you are living in very emergent conditions, > try to understand. And I want to warn you that if you do not go deep > into yourself and find out what you are and take to your > transformation, anything is possible: all kinds of diseases > happening to you, all kinds of new problems of children coming up, > all kinds of national problems are there, all kinds of international > problems are there, that people cannot help it. So we have to get > out of this and become a solid personality of truth. > > We don not know what the truth is. We are worse than animals whose > eyes are open, while our eyes are closed. It is not to condemn you > or anything, but to make you alert and aware that human beings have > to change. Otherwise you just, you come to my lecture, tomorrow you > will come to another lecture. That is all, it is an everyday, sort > of a nice entertainment. But when I see the destiny, I don't know > how many will be going, how many will be finished, what will happen > to them, what diseases they will get, what problems they will get, > what will happen to their children, what will happen to their > country, and what will happen with the whole world. Just widen your > vision. My vision is that all the people of the world should get > transformation. We have enemies within ourselves, and when we talk > of jihad we talk that you have to fight your enemies within > yourself. What are our enemies? > > These days the worst is greed, there is greed. With that greed > people can do anything they want, all kinds of things are happening > out of greed. They will have money, they will have all kinds of > facilities, but still this greed is such a satanic thing that you do > not even see what you have. And you want to have more and more, > deceive people, deceive your ... , deceive everyone and ... . > You have heard so much about Spirit and Spiritual life. But, have > you reached that point? Even when you read zen-system, tao- system, > Bible, Koran, anything. Do you know how to reach that point of the > Spirit? Not yet, not yet. You have to know that, because you are > very great, you are very precious and you are so beautiful within. > But you are not aware of it! You have to become that. That becoming > is very important. And for that already God Almighty has organised > within you, which is called as Kundalini, which can be awakened and > its awakening can give you self realisation, can give you self > knowledge, as you call atma sakshat. That is what is very, very > important in your life to have it, and when it is free, you cannot > pay for it. How much can you pay? When it is absolutely free, why > don't you take your self realisation? And why don't you grow?. . . > Mohammed Saab has said clearly: " At the time of resurrection your > hands will speak. " Are they speaking? > > Hindus know about it, that we have to get our self realisation. No > use just listening to these babajis and giving them money. All this > kind of rituals that we are doing, that our forefathers have been > doing. What have we achieved? Nothing! > > So now it is important for us to know that we have to have our > evolution reaching to the point of self realisation. If we were > perfect, there would have been no problem. If we were self realised > people, there would have been no problem. All kinds of selfishness, > all kinds of limits we have put around us, all kinds of conditioning > and ego, which have been working our life and have been ruling us, > we have to get over it. And once you get over it you get united. > Nobody has to tell you that you get united. You lose all > misidentifications. Your misidentifications are that, that you > belong to this country, you belong to this religion, you belong to > that. You belong to nothing. You belong to the Kingdom of God. That > is what we have to achieve, and you should be one there. But if you > like storytelling there is no end to it. > > But you are wasting your time! The time is running short. I have > been now here for the last, I don't know, 20 years or so. I worked > very hard, but what I find, that people do not realise what they are > supposed to do. They like people who will just say something very > simple, or who are to serve visual entertainment. So the whole > humanity has to understand that destiny of destruction is to be > about today, complete destruction is to be about. And very simple is > that you enter into the Kingdom of God, which is very easy, no time > to pay anything, you do not have to work out anything. You take your > self realisation, and then at home you spend about 10 minutes > meditating. Only your mind is all the time justifying your > misbehaviour. I call it misbehaviour because it is against the > truth, it is against God's wish, it is against humanity, and it will > destroy all the good things. > > All this misidentifications have to be dropped and you have to know > that we are all one, we are all one, we are all global, we are not > separated by colour, race or religion. We should know we are all > one, and that oneness should not be established by slogans or by > shouting. What should be that oneness is to be felt within. It is > not artificial, it has to be real, very real oneness. And that comes > to you once you realise that you are part and parcel of the whole. > Religions have brought you up to this point of awareness, not your > fighting, not your killing. Why, why human beings have diverted > themselves? Because of complete ignorance of righteousness , because > of complete greed of oneself, oneself, just yourself, all your > family, at the most all your relations. Why do you want to keep it > yourself? You are the Spirit. Spirit is the ocean, ocean of > knowledge, is the ocean of love, is the ocean of all blessings. > So we have to decide. Today I have to request that there is not so > much time left. We have to decide that we have to become the Spirit. > That is what all the religions have brought, but how to do it was > not so very much explained, and it did not work out. Some of them > did get it, but they were not trusted, nobody listened to them. Even > people killed them and tortured them and crucified them. But now > please, all of you, try to understand the value of that .... Why are > you humans? Why are you created? What is the purpose behind this? > Are you going to be driven by nonsensical ideas? Are you going to be > finished by all sorts of dividing factors? No, no. You are all going > to get your self realisation, and you are going to understand the > value of your life. > > The problem is, you will get your realisation in the sense, the > power within you will rise. It is very well organised. Actually, God > is a great creator, how he has balanced and how it works out is > remarkable, every detail He has done it. With that happening, is not > sufficient. You enter into, say, a palace and then you go round and > see for yourself how beautiful you are, what beautiful things God > has made, then grow into it. Once you are grown into it then you > will realise what a great thing you are, the greatest gem, the > greatest person so loving, that having some writing under statues. > Nobody tries to understand what were they doing, how they worked. > So, tonight we can have the experience, the experience of the > Spirit. It is a very unusual rare thing, never used to have one like > that. But it is now, so why not take advantage of it. Please, be > ready for that, accept it, take it and become. Becoming is the > point. What you become is the point, and what you make out of this > whole human civilisation is your problem, not mine. I can help, I > can work it out. > > So I would request you all to now get ready for self > realisation. . . . > > This power Kundalini is placed in the triangular bone, known as > sacrum, is sacred and it rises through 6 centres of the > parasympathic and ultimately pierces through the fontanel bone area > which was a soft bone in your head, on top of your head, when you > were a child it was a soft bone. It pierces through that and enters > into the subtle energy of all pervading power of divine love. They > call it by different names, they call it Paramchaitanya, they call > it Chaitanya, some call it as Ruh. You may call it by any name, it > is the Love of God. Once you get connected with you, when you start > feeling on your fingers some sort of a breeze, first some people > will get hot, does not matter, but then it cools down and you get > the cool breeze of the Holy Ghost everyone. And it starts flowing. " > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi > July 14, 2001 - Royal Albert Hall, London, UK > > > " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org > Mon May 15, 2006 8:19 am > Who are the criminally negligent custodians of Shri > Mataji's Message and Will? > > , " my2pai " <my2pai@> > wrote: > > > > And yet the supposed custodians of Shri Mataji's Message and, > > purportedly, of Shri Mataji's Will, have, with an attitude of > > almost criminal negligence, continually underplayed and > > understated the import of the Great Incarnation. While the false > > gurus are masquerading as great saints and even incarnations, > > http://www.divine-mother.org/ > http://www.divinemother.net/ > http://www.motherdivine.org/ > http://www.gurumaa.com/ > http://www.kashi.org/ > http://www.tara.org/jetsunma.htm > http://www.yogachicago.com/may04/karuna.shtml > http://www.geocities.com/ascendedmaster/MotherMeera.html > http://www.pathofthemother.com/play3.html > http://www.adidam.org/ > http://www.narayaniamma.org/ > http://home.arcor.de/maatrix/amma.html > http://www.karunamayi.org/HB-Home.html > http://www.ammachi.org/ > http://www.globeworks.com/appaji/ > http://www.babajiashram.org/ > http://www.sathyasai.org/ > http://www.3ho.org/YogiBhajan.html > http://www.siddhayoga.org/shree-muktananda-ashram.html > http://www.ashram.org/ > http://www.thefamily.org/ourfounder/ourfounder.htm > http://www.swadhyay.org/ > http://www.louixdordempriey.com/news.html > http://www.dattapeetham.com/ > http://www.abo.fi/comprel/joel.htm > http://www.inricristo.org.br/pg.ingles.html > http://www.kaleshwar.org/en/index > http://www.onenessuniversity.org/ > http://www.miracle.org/ > http://www.ex-premie.org/ > http://www.avatarmeherbaba.org/ > http://unification.org/ > http://www.narayanipeedam.org/ > http://www.shantimandir.com/ > http://www.sripremananda.org/ > http://www.srcm.org/index.jsp > http://www.ramakrishnananda.com/view.php?page=D2 & Disp=, > > > > the marketers of Shri Adi Shakti's Incarnation have packaged > > Sahaja Yoga as a technique for stress relief and pretend that Shri > > Mataji is just an ordinary guru discoursing on the subtle system: > > such a grotesque and unconcionable understatement of the greatness > > of the Divine Incarnation of Shri Adi Shakti. > > > > Sahaja Yoga is a unique method of meditation based on an experience > called Self Realization (Kundalini awakening) that can occur within > each human being. > > Through this process an inner transformation takes place by which > one becomes moral, united, integrated and balanced. > > http://www.sahajayoga.org/ > http://www.sahajayoga.org/worldwidecontacts/default.asp > > All Sahaja Yoga meetings are offered free of charge, usually on a > weekly basis. 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Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 Jai Shri Mataji!Dear Violet , Thanks for the reply. I see your point but I just say that when mther is formaly the Head of WCASY, we cannot say anything against WCASY . We may only say about the human members of it and mistakes they are doing in preserving the Divine Messege of Mother. My only Will is to be the Instrument of Mothers Will.My deepest disire is to act,think,live and feel so that She casts a sweet smile upon me and sheds a tear out of Her Love and Pleasure for me.May Her Teachings Prevail!Amen! - Violet Friday, May 26, 2006 1:29 AM Re: A satanic negativity has possessed our leaders and WCASY council members , "my2pai" <my2paiwrote:> "And yet the supposed custodians of Shri Mataji's Message and,> purportedly, of Shri Mataji's Will, have, with an attitude of> almost criminal negligence, continually underplayed and> understated the import of the Great Incarnation. While the false> gurus are masquerading as great saints and even incarnations."Dear mprgrandmaster,The above quote reveals the REAL sacrilige. Shri Mataji came on Earth to introduce us to our Mother Within, who is the Holy Spirit of the Christians, the Adi Shakti of the Hindus, the Ruh of Allah of the Muslims, the Maitreya of the Buddhists, the Shekinah in Judaism, the Eykaa Mayee in Sikhism and the Great Mother in Taoism, however this Message is not getting out to the public-at-large by the custodians of Her Writings. Being the custodians of Her Writings is not the same as being the custodians of Her Message. This is maybe where you are getting a bit mixed-up, and therefore getting a headache.You see, 'leadership' is actually a 'myth', according to Shri Mataji. We are promoting Shri Mataji on this forum and not WCASY, as WCASY are not 'doing the right thing' by Shri Mataji. That is why we denounce their actions/inaction. Not only have they done nothing about Her Real Message, they have edited it and organized it into a new subtle system religion which they have organized all SY's to follow in that format. They have created a different Truth, which is aptly labelled as the Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion. Maybe, now you will understand and it will clear up your confusion. i sure hope so, because it would be a shame, if you follow the WCASY SYSSR rather than the Will of Shri Mataji Herself. As already said, WCASY are only the custodians of Her Literature, they are not the custodians of Shri Mataji's Divine Message Itself. What i am saying is that WCASY's words are not to be taken in with bated breath as if they are now the Will of Shri Mataji Herself. However, if you really believe that they are NOW the Will of Shri Mataji Herself, then you have misunderstood Shri Mataji's Truth completely, my dear grand master! You cannot follow God and mammon. Shri Jesus explains this fact:-"No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will hold to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon." (Matthew 6:24)You see, to 'put it personally', the Holy Spirit Within cannot be my master, if i allow WCASY to be my master. If i allowed WCASY to be my master, and if Jagbir allowed WCASY to be his master, you would not have one forum even telling Her Divine Message to the world. It would only be a subtle system message. Maybe, you can now see more clearly, and i hope that headache can now clear.Because i can tell you....that if you follow WCASY's word, then you are in trouble, for you will never be your own teacher, guru, or even grand master then!i hope this helps,violet , "Jai Shri Mataji" <mprgrandmaster wrote:>> Jai Shri Mataji!> dear brothers,sisters andmembers of this group,> I have been reading the posts here for the last months but this last one gave me such a left Sahasrara/left agnya catch when read just the title!> Do you think these posts will help a newcomer?Or will they scare them and send them away from Sahaja Yoga?Also,please,know that you are talking about a council whose Head is Shri Mataji Herself!How can you say words like > >> negativity possessed the leader and the highest members of WCASY ?????Mother is the LEADER!For God's Sake, put a stop to this,it is sacrilige!> > - > isaac iba > > Thursday, May 25, 2006 6:22 PM> RE: A satanic negativity has possessed our leaders and WCASY council members> > > hello brother jagbir > what can we do for that?i think it is very dangerous for sahaja yoga if the negativity possessed the leader and the highest members of WCASY,according to me, every one have to work himself to grow and to establish a personnel relationship with our HOLLY MOTHER, i also think that WCASY is an other illusion of MAHAMAYa.if we wan to help humanity and sahaja yoga, we have to grow and see SHRI MATAJI in our meditation whose can give us all instructions.you know in my country(cameroon)the problem of leadership have separated our collectif nowaday, we have three collectif and each collectif leader`s claim that he are national leader and we can be unite as children of SHRI MATAJI what can i do?today in WCASY we havent african member what is meaning?is no sahaja yoga in AFRICA?if it that can somebody come and help us to be sahaja yogi?why mother does no come in AFRICA? because of poverty? isaac> > jagbir singh <adishakti_org a écrit :> To all SYs and seekers of Truth,> > Perhaps the most famous venue where Shri Mataji talked about the > Resurrection and Last Judgment to thousands of complete strangers/> public is the Royal Albert Hall, London, UK. i quote Her:> > "All this is coming because this is the Last Judgment. I have told > you, this is the Last Judgment. And this Last Judgment will really > decide who are to be saved and who are to be doomed completely. It > is a very, very serious thing. All of them who are aware should > think about it."> > She has done so all over the world over the years and decades, time > and again exhorting and pleading with humans to transform themselves > as the Last Judgment and Resurrection is taking place. > > However, even as the eleventh hour today ticks on, the criminally > negligent custodians of Shri Mataji's Message and Will continue to > suppress Her Divine Message. The infamous Inquisytion of WCASY is > instead used against those who try to follow Shri Mataji's direction > and vision. Yet again i have to repeat that a satanic negativity has > possessed our leaders and WCASY council members and they are now > actively preventing the rest of humanity from knowing about God > Almighty's Last Judgment and Resurrection. A powerful evil force is > preventing the culmination of God's Plan by overpowering and > possessing our leaders with the fear and apprehension of speaking > about the Last Judgment and Resurrection that Shri Mataji repeated > hundreds of times. And tens of thousands of SYs influenced by such > leaders are following them to spread the false SYSSR!> > Below is the speech (from which the quote above was taken) given by > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi on July 14, 2001 at the Royal Albert Hall, > London, UK. The present-day WCASY council members and leaders should > have admonished Shri Mataji for publicly speaking about the > Resurrection and Last Judgment in such a prominent venue. However, > the Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion is a subtle way of achieving > just that behind Shri Mataji's back. Her present incapacitation will > only embolden the criminally negligent custodians of Shri Mataji's > Message and Will. This forum and the websites are the only obstacles > left in their path of complete domination of Shri Mataji's Advent, > Vision and Divine Message. We must never waiver or fail in our > resolve to defeat this negativity.> > Jai Shri Ganapathi,> > > jagbir> > > > --------> > > "I bow to all the seekers of Truth.> > Some of you have found the Truth, some of you have not found it > fully, and some of you have not found it at all. But if you look > around in today's situation, you will have to admit there is a big > turmoil going on. Countries after countries are taking to all kinds > of wrong things. A lot of cold war is on, people are killing each > other, destroying beautiful places, cutting each other's throat for > nothing at all. We are all human beings created by God, God Almighty > has created them and has brought them to this level of human > awareness.> > At this juncture one can see where are we going in a collective way. > This is, where have we to reach or is it our destiny? Is this the > destiny of human beings, to be destroyed by each other for land or > for anything else? Think of the whole world as one and think what is > happening all over. Every day you read newspaper, every day there is > some sort of a horrible news about horrible things people are doing > to each other for no rhyme or reason. We have to think: what is the > destiny, where are we going? Are we going to Hell or to Heaven? What > is our situation around? Can you help it?> > What is wrong with human beings is: they are still in the complete > control of ignorance. I would call it ignorance, and in that > ignorance, in that darkness, they are doing this horrible thing. > Nobody wants to understand that what we are doing is nothing but > complete destruction. Is that our destiny? That we are going to get > destroyed completely? What good are we doing under the name of some > sort of nationality or maybe some religion, all kinds of things > which are good. But we are doing all wrong things: fighting. > Fighting is not nobility, we hate anybody who can excite our hatred. > It is very much, I don't know. very much liked, and under this > guidance, we form groups.> > All this is coming because this is the Last Judgment. I have told > you, this is the Last Judgment. And this Last Judgment will really > decide who are to be saved and who are to be doomed completely. It > is a very, very serious thing. All of them who are aware should > think about it. Little patchwork here, and a little patchwork is not > going to do. Whatever you may try, unless and until you transform > human being, it cannot be saved. This transformation is not an > impossible thing, it is not difficult. This is the time for > transformation, this is a chance for transformation. And within us > it is placed, the power, as power it is described, is the mystical > feminine power within us. All of them have written, I am not the > first person to say that, but nobody has been able, perhaps so far, > to understand it or to accept it that it should happen to you. > You are born, not only to be human beings, but you have to be > superhuman. You have to enjoy yourself, your life should be > enjoyable, it should be blissful. It should not be a curse, morning > till evening worried about this, worried about that. That is why you > are created, because God had no intention of creating people who > will be all the time worried how to quarrel, how to fight, how to > save, but people who will live in complete harmony, peace and joy. > That is why we are created, that is our destiny. That is not just I > am telling you, but it is a fact. > > So we will have to be, we have to be transformed. This > transformation is not difficult, but what I find you could get > satisfied with anything. Hindus will go to the temple getting "oh we > have done great", Christians go to the church and think they have > done very good, Muslims will go and pray and think that they are > great. What have they achieved? > > Face yourselves, please, face your limitations, face your, face your > problems and see for yourself: Have you been able to solve your > problems? Have you been able to save yourself from calamities? .. . > I am not only talking, but I want you all to get your self-> realization. What is self-realization? It is to know your self. You > do not know your self, you do not know. You are living in this world > without knowing your self, can you imagine? You do not know what you > are, you do not know that you are the Spirit, and that you are the > source of knowledge, of pure knowledge. I find people sitting in a > meeting listening to some babaji who is telling them some story, > very happy. This is not going to give you the reality, and the > truth. If you want to have reality and truth, then please try to > understand that something has to happen, to you some transformation > has to take place. . . . > > These are emergencies, you are living in very emergent conditions, > try to understand. And I want to warn you that if you do not go deep > into yourself and find out what you are and take to your > transformation, anything is possible: all kinds of diseases > happening to you, all kinds of new problems of children coming up, > all kinds of national problems are there, all kinds of international > problems are there, that people cannot help it. So we have to get > out of this and become a solid personality of truth. > > We don not know what the truth is. We are worse than animals whose > eyes are open, while our eyes are closed. It is not to condemn you > or anything, but to make you alert and aware that human beings have > to change. Otherwise you just, you come to my lecture, tomorrow you > will come to another lecture. That is all, it is an everyday, sort > of a nice entertainment. But when I see the destiny, I don't know > how many will be going, how many will be finished, what will happen > to them, what diseases they will get, what problems they will get, > what will happen to their children, what will happen to their > country, and what will happen with the whole world. Just widen your > vision. My vision is that all the people of the world should get > transformation. We have enemies within ourselves, and when we talk > of jihad we talk that you have to fight your enemies within > yourself. What are our enemies? > > These days the worst is greed, there is greed. With that greed > people can do anything they want, all kinds of things are happening > out of greed. They will have money, they will have all kinds of > facilities, but still this greed is such a satanic thing that you do > not even see what you have. And you want to have more and more, > deceive people, deceive your ... , deceive everyone and ... . > You have heard so much about Spirit and Spiritual life. But, have > you reached that point? Even when you read zen-system, tao-system, > Bible, Koran, anything. Do you know how to reach that point of the > Spirit? Not yet, not yet. You have to know that, because you are > very great, you are very precious and you are so beautiful within. > But you are not aware of it! You have to become that. That becoming > is very important. And for that already God Almighty has organised > within you, which is called as Kundalini, which can be awakened and > its awakening can give you self realisation, can give you self > knowledge, as you call atma sakshat. That is what is very, very > important in your life to have it, and when it is free, you cannot > pay for it. How much can you pay? When it is absolutely free, why > don't you take your self realisation? And why don't you grow?. .. > Mohammed Saab has said clearly: "At the time of resurrection your > hands will speak." Are they speaking? > > Hindus know about it, that we have to get our self realisation. No > use just listening to these babajis and giving them money. All this > kind of rituals that we are doing, that our forefathers have been > doing. What have we achieved? Nothing! > > So now it is important for us to know that we have to have our > evolution reaching to the point of self realisation. If we were > perfect, there would have been no problem. If we were self realised > people, there would have been no problem. All kinds of selfishness, > all kinds of limits we have put around us, all kinds of conditioning > and ego, which have been working our life and have been ruling us, > we have to get over it. And once you get over it you get united. > Nobody has to tell you that you get united. You lose all > misidentifications. Your misidentifications are that, that you > belong to this country, you belong to this religion, you belong to > that. You belong to nothing. You belong to the Kingdom of God. That > is what we have to achieve, and you should be one there. But if you > like storytelling there is no end to it. > > But you are wasting your time! The time is running short. I have > been now here for the last, I don't know, 20 years or so. I worked > very hard, but what I find, that people do not realise what they are > supposed to do. They like people who will just say something very > simple, or who are to serve visual entertainment. So the whole > humanity has to understand that destiny of destruction is to be > about today, complete destruction is to be about. And very simple is > that you enter into the Kingdom of God, which is very easy, no time > to pay anything, you do not have to work out anything. You take your > self realisation, and then at home you spend about 10 minutes > meditating. Only your mind is all the time justifying your > misbehaviour. I call it misbehaviour because it is against the > truth, it is against God's wish, it is against humanity, and it will > destroy all the good things. > > All this misidentifications have to be dropped and you have to know > that we are all one, we are all one, we are all global, we are not > separated by colour, race or religion. We should know we are all > one, and that oneness should not be established by slogans or by > shouting. What should be that oneness is to be felt within. It is > not artificial, it has to be real, very real oneness. And that comes > to you once you realise that you are part and parcel of the whole. > Religions have brought you up to this point of awareness, not your > fighting, not your killing. Why, why human beings have diverted > themselves? Because of complete ignorance of righteousness , because > of complete greed of oneself, oneself, just yourself, all your > family, at the most all your relations. Why do you want to keep it > yourself? You are the Spirit. Spirit is the ocean, ocean of > knowledge, is the ocean of love, is the ocean of all blessings. > So we have to decide. Today I have to request that there is not so > much time left. We have to decide that we have to become the Spirit. > That is what all the religions have brought, but how to do it was > not so very much explained, and it did not work out. Some of them > did get it, but they were not trusted, nobody listened to them. Even > people killed them and tortured them and crucified them. But now > please, all of you, try to understand the value of that .... Why are > you humans? Why are you created? What is the purpose behind this? > Are you going to be driven by nonsensical ideas? Are you going to be > finished by all sorts of dividing factors? No, no. You are all going > to get your self realisation, and you are going to understand the > value of your life. > > The problem is, you will get your realisation in the sense, the > power within you will rise. It is very well organised. Actually, God > is a great creator, how he has balanced and how it works out is > remarkable, every detail He has done it. With that happening, is not > sufficient. You enter into, say, a palace and then you go round and > see for yourself how beautiful you are, what beautiful things God > has made, then grow into it. Once you are grown into it then you > will realise what a great thing you are, the greatest gem, the > greatest person so loving, that having some writing under statues. > Nobody tries to understand what were they doing, how they worked. > So, tonight we can have the experience, the experience of the > Spirit. It is a very unusual rare thing, never used to have one like > that. But it is now, so why not take advantage of it. Please, be > ready for that, accept it, take it and become. Becoming is the > point. What you become is the point, and what you make out of this > whole human civilisation is your problem, not mine. I can help, I > can work it out. > > So I would request you all to now get ready for self > realisation. . . . > > This power Kundalini is placed in the triangular bone, known as > sacrum, is sacred and it rises through 6 centres of the > parasympathic and ultimately pierces through the fontanel bone area > which was a soft bone in your head, on top of your head, when you > were a child it was a soft bone. It pierces through that and enters > into the subtle energy of all pervading power of divine love. They > call it by different names, they call it Paramchaitanya, they call > it Chaitanya, some call it as Ruh. You may call it by any name, it > is the Love of God. Once you get connected with you, when you start > feeling on your fingers some sort of a breeze, first some people > will get hot, does not matter, but then it cools down and you get > the cool breeze of the Holy Ghost everyone. And it starts flowing."> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi> July 14, 2001 - Royal Albert Hall, London, UK> > > "jagbir singh" <adishakti_org > Mon May 15, 2006 8:19 am > Who are the criminally negligent custodians of Shri > Mataji's Message and Will? > > , "my2pai" <my2pai@>> wrote:> >> > And yet the supposed custodians of Shri Mataji's Message and,> > purportedly, of Shri Mataji's Will, have, with an attitude of> > almost criminal negligence, continually underplayed and> > understated the import of the Great Incarnation. While the false> > gurus are masquerading as great saints and even incarnations,> > http://www.divine-mother.org/> http://www.divinemother.net/> http://www.motherdivine.org/> http://www.gurumaa.com/> http://www.kashi.org/> http://www.tara.org/jetsunma.htm> http://www.yogachicago.com/may04/karuna.shtml> http://www.geocities.com/ascendedmaster/MotherMeera.html> http://www.pathofthemother.com/play3.html> http://www.adidam.org/> http://www.narayaniamma.org/> http://home.arcor.de/maatrix/amma.html> http://www.karunamayi.org/HB-Home.html> http://www.ammachi.org/> http://www.globeworks.com/appaji/> http://www.babajiashram.org/> http://www.sathyasai.org/> http://www.3ho.org/YogiBhajanhtml> http://www.siddhayoga.org/shree-muktananda-ashram.html> http://www.ashram.org/> http://www.thefamily.org/ourfounder/ourfounder.htm> http://www.swadhyay.org/> http://www.louixdordempriey.com/news.html> http://www.dattapeetham.com/> http://www.abo.fi/comprel/joel.htm> http://www.inricristo.org.br/pg.ingles.html> http://www.kaleshwar.org/en/index> http://www.onenessuniversity.org/> http://www.miracle.org/> http://www.ex-premie.org/> http://www.avatarmeherbaba.org/> http://unification.org/> http://www.narayanipeedam.org/> http://www.shantimandir.com/> http://www.sripremananda.org/> http://www.srcm.org/index.jsp> http://www.ramakrishnananda.com/view.php?page=Ò & Disp==,> > > > the marketers of Shri Adi Shakti's Incarnation have packaged> > Sahaja Yoga as a technique for stress relief and pretend that Shri> > Mataji is just an ordinary guru discoursing on the subtle system:> > such a grotesque and unconcionable understatement of the greatness> > of the Divine Incarnation of Shri Adi Shakti.> >> > Sahaja Yoga is a unique method of meditation based on an experience> called Self Realization (Kundalini awakening) that can occur within> each human being.> > Through this process an inner transformation takes place by which> one becomes moral, united, integrated and balanced.> > http://www.sahajayoga.org/> http://www.sahajayoga.org/worldwidecontacts/default.asp> > All Sahaja Yoga meetings are offered free of charge, usually on a> weekly basis. Calling the center located in your country you will be> able to get information about the programs which are closest to you.> Not all countries are listed - if your country is not on the list,> call the number corresponding to the nearest country to find out> about possible local Sahaja Yoga contacts which are not enlisted> here.> > Algeria (213)21.63.28.40 / msaitchaalal Argentina (54 11) 4863 3291 / sahajayogaargentina Aruba (297) 839 662> Australia (61 2) 9416 2373> Austria (43 1) 609 11 31> Bahrain 00-973-39067465, 00-973-39575301 / kmadhu60,> prakashsahaj Belarus (7 0172) 62 68 27> Belgium (32 83) 21 47 31> Benin (229) 21 25 25> Bhutan (00975) 2-326460 / rajeshkafley Bolivia (591 42) 47740> Bulgaria +359 888 77 58 12> Cameroon (237) 22 73 97> Canada (1 416) 614-7338 : (1 604) 597-8440> Chile (56 2) 2207237 / sahajayogachile Colombia (571) 214-3971> Cyprus +357 24 639108 / +357 99 832868 / +357 99605826 /> inna Czech Republic (420 2) 9972310> Denmark 45 38118915 / info Estonia 37255-640333 / sahaja.yoga Finland (358 9) 855 0934> France (33 1) 43 30 57 25> Georgia, Republic of (7 8832) 38 95 24> Germany (49 3322) 20 88 70> Greece (30 1) 822 9262 / inna Hong Kong (852) 25045260> Hungary (36 1) 218-0493> Iceland 00354\8454812 / ritadefruyt Indonesia (including East Timor) 62 21 544 6672 /> SahajaYogaIndonesia Ireland (Eire) (3531) 282 5542> Israel (972 3) 506 1214 / sy_israel Italy (39 744) 919-851> Japan (81-3)3469-1027, (81-426)78-2923 / hitoshii Kazakhstan (7 3252) 12 13 68> Kenya 254.2.604999 / moweke Kuwait 6134619 / aciyer Latvia (00 371) 9195326, (00 371) 7532656 / sahajayoga Lithuania (37 02) 47 81 43> Macedonia, Republic of (389 91) 22 62 75> Malaysia 603- 6140 3388 or 6012- 273 86 22 /> sahajayogamsia Mexico (52 5) 575 1949> Moldova +3732 2 73 87 80, 29 46 02 / irinanori,> corina1970 Nepal (01) 482 735 / sykp Netherlands (31 20) 697-2038> New Zealand (64 9) 418 3824> Norway (4766) 66915608> Peru (Home) 511 264-6800, (Cell) 511 9817-3805 /> crramosh, crramos Poland (48 22) 751 3520> Portugal (351 1) 396 3149> Reunion 0262 412028 / nirmal-run Romania (40 1) 777 7216> Russia (7 095) 541 3745 / info Seychelles (248) 322 743> Sierra Leone (232) 25316> Singapore (65) 6348 9769 / vigvikas Slovak Republic (Slovakia) (42 17) 54415493> Slovenia 386-41-428333> South Africa (011) 864 - 3410 / ramoodley Spain (0034) 91 715 8788> Sweden +46/8-7610033 / froelen Switzerland (41 22) 779 20 37> Taiwan (886 2) 715 5208> Thailand (662) 712 14 18> Tunisia (43 1) 381 559> Turkey (0090) 212 248 31 22> Ukraine (380-44) 442 68 71> United Arab Emirates (971) 426 36327> United Kingdom (44 181) 930 5621> Uruguay (59 82) 60 77 09> Zambia (260) 1 291 378> > > So who are the supposed custodians of Shri Mataji's Message and,> purportedly, of Shri Mataji's Will, who have, with an attitude of> almost criminal negligence, continually underplayed and understated> the import of the Great Incarnation?> > > Rajesh Shah> Gregoire de Kalbermatten> David Spiro> Vijay Nalgirkar> Manoj Kumar> Eduardo Marino> Wolfgang Hackl> Majid Golpour> Phillip Zeiss> Derek Lee> Arneau de Kalbermatten> Nese Algan> Ivan Tan> Karan Khurana> Alex Henshaw> Aldo Gandolfi> Rajiv Kumar> Brian Wells> David Dunphy> Zafar Rashid> Bohdan Shehovich> Gagan Ahluwalia> Paul Ellis> Alan Wherry> Alan Pereira> Sandeep Gadkary> Mihaela Balasescu> Viktor Bondar> Dmitry Korotaev> Alexander Solodyankin> Chris Kyriacou> Advisors to the Council:> > Gagan Ahluwalia: Financial, Accounting and Property matters> Paul Ellis: Legal Affairs> Alan Wherry : Publication Issues> > /message/6157> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail réinvente le mail ! 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Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 , " Jai Shri Mataji " <mprgrandmaster wrote: > > Jai Shri Mataji! > dear brothers,sisters andmembers of this group, > I have been reading the posts here for the last months but this > last one gave me such a left Sahasrara/left agnya catch when read > just the title! > Do you think these posts will help a newcomer?Or will they scare > them and send them away from Sahaja Yoga?Also,please,know that you > are talking about a council whose Head is Shri Mataji Herself!How > can you say words like > negativity possessed the leader and the highest members of > WCASY ?????Mother is the LEADER!For God's Sake, put a stop to > this,it is sacrilige! > Maybe you need to read it again and remember Shri Mataji made that speech in 2001: " To all SYs and seekers of Truth, Perhaps the most famous venue where Shri Mataji talked about the Resurrection and Last Judgment to thousands of complete strangers/ public is the Royal Albert Hall, London, UK. i quote Her: " All this is coming because this is the Last Judgment. I have told you, this is the Last Judgment. And this Last Judgment will really decide who are to be saved and who are to be doomed completely. It is a very, very serious thing. All of them who are aware should think about it. " She has done so all over the world over the years and decades, time and again exhorting and pleading with humans to transform themselves as the Last Judgment and Resurrection is taking place. However, even as the eleventh hour today ticks on, the criminally negligent custodians of Shri Mataji's Message and Will continue to suppress Her Divine Message. The infamous Inquisytion of WCASY is instead used against those who try to follow Shri Mataji's direction and vision. " Shri Mataji has done Her job but not a single WCASY member or leader has lifted a finger to help Her even though it " is a very, very serious thing " i.e., that Shri Mataji is pleading to humanity that " if you look around in today's situation, you will have to admit there is a big turmoil going on. Countries after countries are taking to all kinds of wrong things. A lot of cold war is on, people are killing each other, destroying beautiful places, cutting each other's throat for nothing at all. " You said that you had a " left Sahasrara/left agnya catch " when you read that " A satanic negativity has possessed our leaders and WCASY council members " . Then it must be true since only a satanic negativity can prevent Shri Mataji's warning of the Last Judgment from being announced by those entrusted to do so. What else can prevent Shri Mataji's Divine Message of the Last Judgment from being on the WCASY agenda? Every incarnation that set foot on Earth has been attacked by negativity. In Shri Mataji's case it is from within, with negativity possessing those leaders and council members trusted to ensure that the public knows upfront that the Last Judgment is taking place. So now you can either side with Shri Mataji or WCASY and leaders. If you side with Shri Mataji then you will follow/say what She has said and done for three decades. If you want to side with WCASY then you can spread the Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion which they will continue now. Just choose one and stand your ground. You just cannot have two masters and worship both equally. Either choose the Divine and the Truth or choose humans and their organization. With all i have written i am only making your ability to choose an informed one. i do so with a clear conscience because i have decided to firmly stand on side of the Divine and Truth. Others have done or are doing the same too. After all, this is the Last Judgment and i will be judged by my actions. Unlike WCASY, i believe telling the truth is my sacred duty. Only a satanic force can prevent humanity from knowing about the Last Judgment. So far, unlike WCASY members, i am not possessed by it. Just ask them what is preventing them from doing what Shri Mataji has always done in public - tell complete strangers that it is the Last Judgment! jagbir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 , " Jai Shri Mataji " <mprgrandmaster wrote: I see your point but I just say that when mother is formaly the Head of WCASY, we cannot say anything against WCASY . Dear mprgrandmaster, As an administrative body, administering the affairs of Shri Mataji, any Sahaja Yogi can complain to them if they are not doing the job that they are supposed to do. They are not infallible as the Catholic Pope claims to be, just because they are an administrative body under Shri Mataji. We must not get WCASY, the administrative body confused with the Truth that Shri Mataji has brought to Earth. We must not even confuse WCASY with the Spiritual Truth that Shri Jesus, Shri Buddha, Prophet Mohammed, and other Incarnations taught. These Truths, according to Shri Mataji cannot be organized, and as WCASY is an organizational body, this is also true for them. As an administrative body, WCASY have been given the task of being the repository for Shri Mataji's tapes, videos, properties, and monies. Shri Mataji is the head of this administration, because it is Her Property really, that they are looking after. Someone has to look after it. It cannot float in the air. However, the part that is much more important than all of that is the Divine Message of Truth Itself, which Shri Mataji said COULD NEVER BE ORGANIZED! The responsibility of this Divine Message of Shri Mataji of the Last Judgment and Resurrection rests on every " born of the Spirit person " , a.k.a. Sahaja Yogi who feels the vibrations. Whether they also hold a seat on the World Council is 'besides the point'. Administrative bodies organize. That is their job. They don't do the work themselves, because their job is to organize only. It is the individual themselves that has to do the work that Shri Mataji has asked us to do. As an administrative body, WCASY is not an individual, it is a functional administrative service. However, they have made themselves out to be more than a functional administrative service to Sahaja Yogis. They have made SY's believe that rather than just being the administrative functioning body that is the respository of Her Property, that this functional administrative body will also now interpret the Will of Shri Mataji to everyone. i hope you can 'see' how wrong this assertion is. Shri Mataji has given us the 'checks and balances' for just such assertions by WCASY by telling us that we must be our own guru, teacher, and master. WCASY is not meant to be your guru, teacher and master, you see. WCASY is only meant to be an administrative body. i hope this becomes more clear in the future, if it is not clear now. Also, btw, Shri Mataji does not want a 'Pope' in Her Organization, and although this may 'sound sacriligious' it is the truth. best wishes, violet > Jai Shri Mataji! > Dear Violet , > Thanks for the reply. > I see your point but I just say that when mther is formaly the Head of WCASY, we cannot say anything against WCASY . We may only say about the human members of it and mistakes they are doing in preserving the Divine Messege of Mother. > My only Will is to be the Instrument of Mothers Will.My deepest disire is to act,think,live and feel so that She casts a sweet smile upon me and sheds a tear out of Her Love and Pleasure for me.May Her Teachings Prevail!Amen! > > - > Violet > > Friday, May 26, 2006 1:29 AM > Re: A satanic negativity has possessed our leaders and WCASY council members > > > , " my2pai " <my2pai@> > wrote: > > > " And yet the supposed custodians of Shri Mataji's Message and, > > purportedly, of Shri Mataji's Will, have, with an attitude of > > almost criminal negligence, continually underplayed and > > understated the import of the Great Incarnation. While the false > > gurus are masquerading as great saints and even incarnations. " > > Dear mprgrandmaster, > > The above quote reveals the REAL sacrilige. Shri Mataji came on Earth to introduce us to our Mother Within, who is the Holy Spirit of the Christians, the Adi Shakti of the Hindus, the Ruh of Allah of the Muslims, the Maitreya of the Buddhists, the Shekinah in Judaism, the Eykaa Mayee in Sikhism and the Great Mother in Taoism, however this Message is not getting out to the public-at-large by the custodians of Her Writings. Being the custodians of Her Writings is not the same as being the custodians of Her Message. This is maybe where you are getting a bit mixed-up, and therefore getting a headache. > > You see, 'leadership' is actually a 'myth', according to Shri Mataji. We are promoting Shri Mataji on this forum and not WCASY, as WCASY are not 'doing the right thing' by Shri Mataji. That is why we denounce their actions/inaction. Not only have they done nothing about Her Real Message, they have edited it and organized it into a new subtle system religion which they have organized all SY's to follow in that format. They have created a different Truth, which is aptly labelled as the Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion. > > Maybe, now you will understand and it will clear up your confusion. i sure hope so, because it would be a shame, if you follow the WCASY SYSSR rather than the Will of Shri Mataji Herself. As already said, WCASY are only the custodians of Her Literature, they are not the custodians of Shri Mataji's Divine Message Itself. > > What i am saying is that WCASY's words are not to be taken in with bated breath as if they are now the Will of Shri Mataji Herself. However, if you really believe that they are NOW the Will of Shri Mataji Herself, then you have misunderstood Shri Mataji's Truth completely, my dear grand master! You cannot follow God and mammon. Shri Jesus explains this fact:- > > " No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will hold to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon. " (Matthew 6:24) > > You see, to 'put it personally', the Holy Spirit Within cannot be my master, if i allow WCASY to be my master. If i allowed WCASY to be my master, and if Jagbir allowed WCASY to be his master, you would not have one forum even telling Her Divine Message to the world. It would only be a subtle system message. Maybe, you can now see more clearly, and i hope that headache can now clear. > > Because i can tell you....that if you follow WCASY's word, then you are in trouble, for you will never be your own teacher, guru, or even grand master then! > > i hope this helps, > > violet > > , " Jai Shri Mataji " > <mprgrandmaster@> wrote: > > > > Jai Shri Mataji! > > dear brothers,sisters andmembers of this group, > > I have been reading the posts here for the last months but this last > one gave me such a left Sahasrara/left agnya catch when read just the > title! > > Do you think these posts will help a newcomer?Or will they scare > them and send them away from Sahaja Yoga?Also,please,know that you are > talking about a council whose Head is Shri Mataji Herself!How can you > say words like > > >> negativity possessed the leader and the highest members of WCASY > ?????Mother is the LEADER!For God's Sake, put a stop to this,it is > sacrilige! > > > > - > > isaac iba > > > > Thursday, May 25, 2006 6:22 PM > > RE: A satanic negativity has > possessed our leaders and WCASY council members > > > > > > hello brother jagbir > > what can we do for that?i think it is very dangerous for sahaja > yoga if the negativity possessed the leader and the highest members of > WCASY,according to me, every one have to work himself to grow and to > establish a personnel relationship with our HOLLY MOTHER, i also think > that WCASY is an other illusion of MAHAMAYa.if we wan to help humanity > and sahaja yoga, we have to grow and see SHRI MATAJI in our meditation > whose can give us all instructions.you know in my country(cameroon)the > problem of leadership have separated our collectif nowaday, we have > three collectif and each collectif leader`s claim that he are national > leader and we can be unite as children of SHRI MATAJI what can i do? > today in WCASY we havent african member what is meaning?is no sahaja > yoga in AFRICA?if it that can somebody come and help us to be sahaja > yogi?why mother does no come in AFRICA? because of poverty? isaac > > > > jagbir singh <adishakti_org@> a écrit : > > To all SYs and seekers of Truth, > > > > Perhaps the most famous venue where Shri Mataji talked about the > > Resurrection and Last Judgment to thousands of complete > strangers/ > > public is the Royal Albert Hall, London, UK. i quote Her: > > > > " All this is coming because this is the Last Judgment. I have > told > > you, this is the Last Judgment. And this Last Judgment will > really > > decide who are to be saved and who are to be doomed completely. > It > > is a very, very serious thing. All of them who are aware should > > think about it. " > > > > She has done so all over the world over the years and decades, > time > > and again exhorting and pleading with humans to transform > themselves > > as the Last Judgment and Resurrection is taking place. > > > > However, even as the eleventh hour today ticks on, the > criminally > > negligent custodians of Shri Mataji's Message and Will continue > to > > suppress Her Divine Message. The infamous Inquisytion of WCASY > is > > instead used against those who try to follow Shri Mataji's > direction > > and vision. Yet again i have to repeat that a satanic negativity > has > > possessed our leaders and WCASY council members and they are now > > actively preventing the rest of humanity from knowing about God > > Almighty's Last Judgment and Resurrection. A powerful evil force > is > > preventing the culmination of God's Plan by overpowering and > > possessing our leaders with the fear and apprehension of > speaking > > about the Last Judgment and Resurrection that Shri Mataji > repeated > > hundreds of times. And tens of thousands of SYs influenced by > such > > leaders are following them to spread the false SYSSR! > > > > Below is the speech (from which the quote above was taken) given > by > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi on July 14, 2001 at the Royal Albert > Hall, > > London, UK. The present-day WCASY council members and leaders > should > > have admonished Shri Mataji for publicly speaking about the > > Resurrection and Last Judgment in such a prominent venue. > However, > > the Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion is a subtle way of > achieving > > just that behind Shri Mataji's back. Her present incapacitation > will > > only embolden the criminally negligent custodians of Shri > Mataji's > > Message and Will. This forum and the websites are the only > obstacles > > left in their path of complete domination of Shri Mataji's > Advent, > > Vision and Divine Message. We must never waiver or fail in our > > resolve to defeat this negativity. > > > > Jai Shri Ganapathi, > > > > > > jagbir > > > > > > > > -------- > > > > > > " I bow to all the seekers of Truth. > > > > Some of you have found the Truth, some of you have not found it > > fully, and some of you have not found it at all. But if you look > > around in today's situation, you will have to admit there is a > big > > turmoil going on. Countries after countries are taking to all > kinds > > of wrong things. A lot of cold war is on, people are killing > each > > other, destroying beautiful places, cutting each other's throat > for > > nothing at all. We are all human beings created by God, God > Almighty > > has created them and has brought them to this level of human > > awareness. > > > > At this juncture one can see where are we going in a collective > way. > > This is, where have we to reach or is it our destiny? Is this > the > > destiny of human beings, to be destroyed by each other for land > or > > for anything else? Think of the whole world as one and think > what is > > happening all over. Every day you read newspaper, every day > there is > > some sort of a horrible news about horrible things people are > doing > > to each other for no rhyme or reason. We have to think: what is > the > > destiny, where are we going? Are we going to Hell or to Heaven? > What > > is our situation around? Can you help it? > > > > What is wrong with human beings is: they are still in the > complete > > control of ignorance. I would call it ignorance, and in that > > ignorance, in that darkness, they are doing this horrible thing. > > Nobody wants to understand that what we are doing is nothing but > > complete destruction. Is that our destiny? That we are going to > get > > destroyed completely? What good are we doing under the name of > some > > sort of nationality or maybe some religion, all kinds of things > > which are good. But we are doing all wrong things: fighting. > > Fighting is not nobility, we hate anybody who can excite our > hatred. > > It is very much, I don't know. very much liked, and under this > > guidance, we form groups. > > > > All this is coming because this is the Last Judgment. I have > told > > you, this is the Last Judgment. And this Last Judgment will > really > > decide who are to be saved and who are to be doomed completely. > It > > is a very, very serious thing. All of them who are aware should > > think about it. Little patchwork here, and a little patchwork is > not > > going to do. Whatever you may try, unless and until you > transform > > human being, it cannot be saved. This transformation is not an > > impossible thing, it is not difficult. This is the time for > > transformation, this is a chance for transformation. And within > us > > it is placed, the power, as power it is described, is the > mystical > > feminine power within us. All of them have written, I am not the > > first person to say that, but nobody has been able, perhaps so > far, > > to understand it or to accept it that it should happen to you. > > You are born, not only to be human beings, but you have to be > > superhuman. You have to enjoy yourself, your life should be > > enjoyable, it should be blissful. It should not be a curse, > morning > > till evening worried about this, worried about that. That is why > you > > are created, because God had no intention of creating people who > > will be all the time worried how to quarrel, how to fight, how > to > > save, but people who will live in complete harmony, peace and > joy. > > That is why we are created, that is our destiny. That is not > just I > > am telling you, but it is a fact. > > > > So we will have to be, we have to be transformed. This > > transformation is not difficult, but what I find you could get > > satisfied with anything. Hindus will go to the temple getting > " oh we > > have done great " , Christians go to the church and think they > have > > done very good, Muslims will go and pray and think that they are > > great. What have they achieved? > > > > Face yourselves, please, face your limitations, face your, face > your > > problems and see for yourself: Have you been able to solve your > > problems? Have you been able to save yourself from calamities? . > . . > > I am not only talking, but I want you all to get your self- > > realization. What is self-realization? It is to know your self. > You > > do not know your self, you do not know. You are living in this > world > > without knowing your self, can you imagine? You do not know what > you > > are, you do not know that you are the Spirit, and that you are > the > > source of knowledge, of pure knowledge. I find people sitting in > a > > meeting listening to some babaji who is telling them some story, > > very happy. This is not going to give you the reality, and the > > truth. If you want to have reality and truth, then please try to > > understand that something has to happen, to you some > transformation > > has to take place. . . . > > > > These are emergencies, you are living in very emergent > conditions, > > try to understand. And I want to warn you that if you do not go > deep > > into yourself and find out what you are and take to your > > transformation, anything is possible: all kinds of diseases > > happening to you, all kinds of new problems of children coming > up, > > all kinds of national problems are there, all kinds of > international > > problems are there, that people cannot help it. So we have to > get > > out of this and become a solid personality of truth. > > > > We don not know what the truth is. We are worse than animals > whose > > eyes are open, while our eyes are closed. It is not to condemn > you > > or anything, but to make you alert and aware that human beings > have > > to change. Otherwise you just, you come to my lecture, tomorrow > you > > will come to another lecture. That is all, it is an everyday, > sort > > of a nice entertainment. But when I see the destiny, I don't > know > > how many will be going, how many will be finished, what will > happen > > to them, what diseases they will get, what problems they will > get, > > what will happen to their children, what will happen to their > > country, and what will happen with the whole world. Just widen > your > > vision. My vision is that all the people of the world should get > > transformation. We have enemies within ourselves, and when we > talk > > of jihad we talk that you have to fight your enemies within > > yourself. What are our enemies? > > > > These days the worst is greed, there is greed. With that greed > > people can do anything they want, all kinds of things are > happening > > out of greed. They will have money, they will have all kinds of > > facilities, but still this greed is such a satanic thing that > you do > > not even see what you have. And you want to have more and more, > > deceive people, deceive your ... , deceive everyone and ... . > > You have heard so much about Spirit and Spiritual life. But, > have > > you reached that point? Even when you read zen-system, tao- > system, > > Bible, Koran, anything. Do you know how to reach that point of > the > > Spirit? Not yet, not yet. You have to know that, because you are > > very great, you are very precious and you are so beautiful > within. > > But you are not aware of it! You have to become that. That > becoming > > is very important. And for that already God Almighty has > organised > > within you, which is called as Kundalini, which can be awakened > and > > its awakening can give you self realisation, can give you self > > knowledge, as you call atma sakshat. That is what is very, very > > important in your life to have it, and when it is free, you > cannot > > pay for it. How much can you pay? When it is absolutely free, > why > > don't you take your self realisation? And why don't you grow?. . > . > > Mohammed Saab has said clearly: " At the time of resurrection > your > > hands will speak. " Are they speaking? > > > > Hindus know about it, that we have to get our self realisation. > No > > use just listening to these babajis and giving them money. All > this > > kind of rituals that we are doing, that our forefathers have > been > > doing. What have we achieved? Nothing! > > > > So now it is important for us to know that we have to have our > > evolution reaching to the point of self realisation. If we were > > perfect, there would have been no problem. If we were self > realised > > people, there would have been no problem. All kinds of > selfishness, > > all kinds of limits we have put around us, all kinds of > conditioning > > and ego, which have been working our life and have been ruling > us, > > we have to get over it. And once you get over it you get united. > > Nobody has to tell you that you get united. You lose all > > misidentifications. Your misidentifications are that, that you > > belong to this country, you belong to this religion, you belong > to > > that. You belong to nothing. You belong to the Kingdom of God. > That > > is what we have to achieve, and you should be one there. But if > you > > like storytelling there is no end to it. > > > > But you are wasting your time! The time is running short. I have > > been now here for the last, I don't know, 20 years or so. I > worked > > very hard, but what I find, that people do not realise what they > are > > supposed to do. They like people who will just say something > very > > simple, or who are to serve visual entertainment. So the whole > > humanity has to understand that destiny of destruction is to be > > about today, complete destruction is to be about. And very > simple is > > that you enter into the Kingdom of God, which is very easy, no > time > > to pay anything, you do not have to work out anything. You take > your > > self realisation, and then at home you spend about 10 minutes > > meditating. Only your mind is all the time justifying your > > misbehaviour. I call it misbehaviour because it is against the > > truth, it is against God's wish, it is against humanity, and it > will > > destroy all the good things. > > > > All this misidentifications have to be dropped and you have to > know > > that we are all one, we are all one, we are all global, we are > not > > separated by colour, race or religion. We should know we are all > > one, and that oneness should not be established by slogans or by > > shouting. What should be that oneness is to be felt within. It > is > > not artificial, it has to be real, very real oneness. And that > comes > > to you once you realise that you are part and parcel of the > whole. > > Religions have brought you up to this point of awareness, not > your > > fighting, not your killing. Why, why human beings have diverted > > themselves? Because of complete ignorance of righteousness , > because > > of complete greed of oneself, oneself, just yourself, all your > > family, at the most all your relations. Why do you want to keep > it > > yourself? You are the Spirit. Spirit is the ocean, ocean of > > knowledge, is the ocean of love, is the ocean of all blessings. > > So we have to decide. Today I have to request that there is not > so > > much time left. We have to decide that we have to become the > Spirit. > > That is what all the religions have brought, but how to do it > was > > not so very much explained, and it did not work out. Some of > them > > did get it, but they were not trusted, nobody listened to them. > Even > > people killed them and tortured them and crucified them. But now > > please, all of you, try to understand the value of that .... Why > are > > you humans? Why are you created? What is the purpose behind > this? > > Are you going to be driven by nonsensical ideas? Are you going > to be > > finished by all sorts of dividing factors? No, no. You are all > going > > to get your self realisation, and you are going to understand > the > > value of your life. > > > > The problem is, you will get your realisation in the sense, the > > power within you will rise. It is very well organised. Actually, > God > > is a great creator, how he has balanced and how it works out is > > remarkable, every detail He has done it. With that happening, is > not > > sufficient. You enter into, say, a palace and then you go round > and > > see for yourself how beautiful you are, what beautiful things > God > > has made, then grow into it. Once you are grown into it then you > > will realise what a great thing you are, the greatest gem, the > > greatest person so loving, that having some writing under > statues. > > Nobody tries to understand what were they doing, how they > worked. > > So, tonight we can have the experience, the experience of the > > Spirit. It is a very unusual rare thing, never used to have one > like > > that. But it is now, so why not take advantage of it. Please, be > > ready for that, accept it, take it and become. Becoming is the > > point. What you become is the point, and what you make out of > this > > whole human civilisation is your problem, not mine. I can help, > I > > can work it out. > > > > So I would request you all to now get ready for self > > realisation. . . . > > > > This power Kundalini is placed in the triangular bone, known as > > sacrum, is sacred and it rises through 6 centres of the > > parasympathic and ultimately pierces through the fontanel bone > area > > which was a soft bone in your head, on top of your head, when > you > > were a child it was a soft bone. It pierces through that and > enters > > into the subtle energy of all pervading power of divine love. > They > > call it by different names, they call it Paramchaitanya, they > call > > it Chaitanya, some call it as Ruh. You may call it by any name, > it > > is the Love of God. Once you get connected with you, when you > start > > feeling on your fingers some sort of a breeze, first some people > > will get hot, does not matter, but then it cools down and you > get > > the cool breeze of the Holy Ghost everyone. And it starts > flowing. " > > > > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi > > July 14, 2001 - Royal Albert Hall, London, UK > > > > > > " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org@> > > Mon May 15, 2006 8:19 am > > Who are the criminally negligent custodians of Shri > > Mataji's Message and Will? > > > > , " my2pai " <my2pai@> > > wrote: > > > > > > And yet the supposed custodians of Shri Mataji's Message and, > > > purportedly, of Shri Mataji's Will, have, with an attitude of > > > almost criminal negligence, continually underplayed and > > > understated the import of the Great Incarnation. While the > false > > > gurus are masquerading as great saints and even incarnations, > > > > http://www.divine-mother.org/ > > http://www.divinemother.net/ > > http://www.motherdivine.org/ > > http://www.gurumaa.com/ > > http://www.kashi.org/ > > http://www.tara.org/jetsunma.htm > > http://www.yogachicago.com/may04/karuna.shtml > > http://www.geocities.com/ascendedmaster/MotherMeera.html > > http://www.pathofthemother.com/play3.html > > http://www.adidam.org/ > > http://www.narayaniamma.org/ > > http://home.arcor.de/maatrix/amma.html > > http://www.karunamayi.org/HB-Home.html > > http://www.ammachi.org/ > > http://www.globeworks.com/appaji/ > > http://www.babajiashram.org/ > > http://www.sathyasai.org/ > > http://www.3ho.org/YogiBhajan.html > > http://www.siddhayoga.org/shree-muktananda-ashram.html > > http://www.ashram.org/ > > http://www.thefamily.org/ourfounder/ourfounder.htm > > http://www.swadhyay.org/ > > http://www.louixdordempriey.com/news.html > > http://www.dattapeetham.com/ > > http://www.abo.fi/comprel/joel.htm > > http://www.inricristo.org.br/pg.ingles.html > > http://www.kaleshwar.org/en/index > > http://www.onenessuniversity.org/ > > http://www.miracle.org/ > > http://www.ex-premie.org/ > > http://www.avatarmeherbaba.org/ > & gt; http://unification.org/ > > http://www.narayanipeedam.org/ > > http://www.shantimandir.com/ > > http://www.sripremananda.org/ > > http://www.srcm.org/index.jsp > > http://www.ramakrishnananda.com/view.php?page=Ò & Disp==, > > > > > > > the marketers of Shri Adi Shakti's Incarnation have packaged > > > Sahaja Yoga as a technique for stress relief and pretend that > Shri > > > Mataji is just an ordinary guru discoursing on the subtle > system: > > > such a grotesque and unconcionable understatement of the > greatness > > > of the Divine Incarnation of Shri Adi Shakti. > & gt; > > > > > Sahaja Yoga is a unique method of meditation based on an > experience > > called Self Realization (Kundalini awakening) that can occur > within > > each human being. > > > > Through this process an inner transformation takes place by > which > > one becomes moral, united, integrated and balanced. > > > > http://www.sahajayoga.org/ > > http://www.sahajayoga.org/worldwidecontacts/default.asp > > > > All Sahaja Yoga meetings are offered free of charge, usually on > a > > weekly basis. Calling the center located in your country you > will be > > able to get information about the programs which are closest to & gt; you. > > Not all countries are listed - if your country is not on the > list, > > call the number corresponding to the nearest country to find out > > about possible local Sahaja Yoga contacts which are not enlisted > > here. > > > > Algeria (213)21.63.28.40 / msaitchaalal@ > > Argentina (54 11) 4863 3291 / sahajayogaargentina@ > > Aruba (297) 839 662 > > Australia (61 2) 9416 2373 > > Austria (43 1) 609 11 31 > > Bahrain 00-973-39067465, 00-973-39575301 / kmadhu60@, > > prakashsahaj@ > > Belarus (7 0172) 62 68 27 > > Belgium (32 83) 21 47 31 > > Benin (229) 21 25 25 > > Bhutan (00975) 2-326460 / rajeshkafley@ > > Bolivia (591 42) 47740 > > Bulgaria +359 888 77 58 12 > > Cameroon (237) 22 73 97 > > Canada (1 416) 614-7338 : (1 604) 597-8440 > > Chile (56 2) 2207237 / sahajayogachile@ > > Colombia (571) 214-3971 > > Cyprus +357 24 639108 / +357 99 832868 / +357 99605826 / > > inna@ > > Czech Republic (420 2) 9972310 > > Denmark 45 38118915 / info@ > > Estonia 37255-640333 / sahaja.yoga@ > > Finland (358 9) 855 0934 > > France (33 1) 43 30 57 25 > > Georgia, Republic of (7 8832) 38 95 24 > > Germany (49 3322) 20 88 70 > > Greece (30 1) 822 9262 / inna@ > > Hong Kong (852) 25045260 > > Hungary (36 1) 218-0493 > > Iceland 00354\8454812 / ritadefruyt@ > > Indonesia (including East Timor) 62 21 544 6672 / > > SahajaYogaIndonesia@ > > Ireland (Eire) (3531) 282 5542 > > Israel (972 3) 506 1214 / sy_israel@ > > Italy (39 744) 919-851 > > Japan (81-3)3469-1027, (81-426)78-2923 / hitoshii@ > > Kazakhstan (7 3252) 12 13 68 > > Kenya 254.2.604999 / moweke@ > > Kuwait 6134619 / aciyer@ > > Latvia (00 371) 9195326, (00 371) 7532656 / sahajayoga@ > > Lithuania (37 02) 47 81 43 > > Macedonia, Republic of (389 91) 22 62 75 > > Malaysia 603- 6140 3388 or 6012- 273 86 22 / > > sahajayogamsia@ > > Mexico (52 5) 575 1949 > > Moldova +3732 2 73 87 80, 29 46 02 / irinanori@, > > corina1970@ > > Nepal (01) 482 735 / sykp@ > > Netherlands (31 20) 697-2038 > > New Zealand (64 9) 418 3824 > > Norway (4766) 66915608 > > Peru (Home) 511 264-6800, (Cell) 511 9817-3805 / > > crramosh@, crramos@ > > Poland (48 22) 751 3520 > > Portugal (351 1) 396 3149 > > Reunion 0262 412028 / nirmal-run@ > > Romania (40 1) 777 7216 > > Russia (7 095) 541 3745 / info@ > > Seychelles (248) 322 743 > > Sierra Leone (232) 25316 > > Singapore (65) 6348 9769 / vigvikas@ > > Slovak Republic (Slovakia) (42 17) 54415493 > > Slovenia 386-41-428333 > > South Africa (011) 864 - 3410 / ramoodley@ > > Spain (0034) 91 715 8788 > > Sweden +46/8-7610033 / froelen@ > > Switzerland (41 22) 779 20 37 > > Taiwan (886 2) 715 5208 > > Thailand (662) 712 14 18 > > Tunisia (43 1) 381 559 > > Turkey (0090) 212 248 31 22 > > Ukraine (380-44) 442 68 71 > > United Arab Emirates (971) 426 36327 > > United Kingdom (44 181) 930 5621 > > Uruguay (59 82) 60 77 09 > > Zambia (260) 1 291 378 > > > > > > So who are the supposed custodians of Shri Mataji's Message and, > > purportedly, of Shri Mataji's Will, who have, with an attitude > of > > almost criminal negligence, continually underplayed and > understated > > the import of the Great Incarnation? > > > > > > Rajesh Shah > > Gregoire de Kalbermatten > > David Spiro > > Vijay Nalgirkar > > Manoj Kumar > > Eduardo Marino > > Wolfgang Hackl > > Majid Golpour > > Phillip Zeiss > > Derek Lee > > Arneau de Kalbermatten > > Nese Algan > > Ivan Tan > > Karan Khurana > > Alex Henshaw > > Aldo Gandolfi > > Rajiv Kumar > > Brian Wells > > David Dunphy > > Zafar Rashid > > Bohdan Shehovich > > Gagan Ahluwalia > > Paul Ellis > > Alan Wherry > > Alan Pereira > > Sandeep Gadkary > > Mihaela Balasescu > > Viktor Bondar > > Dmitry Korotaev > > Alexander Solodyankin > > Chris Kyriacou > > Advisors to the Council: > > > > Gagan Ahluwalia: Financial, Accounting and Property matters > > Paul Ellis: Legal Affairs > > Alan Wherry : Publication Issues > > > > /message/ 6157 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- ---- > ---------- > > Mail réinvente le mail ! 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