i waiting for Alan Wherry and WCASY to issue me a similar fatwa

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Message from the Italian Council Regarding Guido Lanza

Thursday, June 01, 2006

 

TO THE ITALIAN SAHAJA YOGIS

 

The Italian Council for the Advancement of Sahaja Yoga had to

acknowledge, with great sorrow, that Guido Lanza, after coming back

from South America, on Saturday the 20th of May, to the Ashram of

Rome, has interrupted a Havan assaulting some sahaja yogis from Rome

with insults, threats and attempts of physical aggression.

 

The ceremony that was being carried out had been organized from the

brothers and sisters of the Ashram in agreement with the Rome Sahaj

Committee and was planned in order to strengthen the relationships

between the residents and the roman collective, in the spirit of

unity and of devoted surrender to Shri Mataji that had been proposed

as the right attitude of preparation to the return of Mother in

Italy.

 

Guido Lanza has not only interrupted a sacred ceremony, showing new

Sahaja Yogi and children the outbreak of an aggressiveness that does

not have nothing to do with the teachings of Shri Mataji, but tried

to revert the situation of the roman collective to levels in which

personal facts have the absolute prevalence to fundamental

requirements of care about Sahaj life and collective engagement.

With this he has demonstrated not to have respect either of Shri

Mataji or of the work that, with hard work and great dedication, had

been done since August in order to establish again unity in the

Italian collective, recreating a condition of deep union with Mother

and bringing back all the collective in the condition that Shri

Mataji many times has asked us, that is of being instruments of Her

project of human transformation.

 

For a year we have waited in vain for Guido to take the opportunity

to come back and take part in the collective work of Sahaja Yoga

with humility, finding once again the ways of a work that in twenty

years brought him to be one of the columns of the construction of

Sahaja Yoga, not only in Italy. The last episode moreover forces us

to acknowledge that the level of ego and the presumption of being

above whichever law, even divine, have taken in Guido serious,

destructive dimensions, which preclude any possibility of

relationship with the life of the ashram and the development of the

Italian collective.

 

Therefore:

 

Guido Lanza, together to Roberto Camilleri who has supported him

beating another Sahaja Yogi, is suspended from all the activities

Sahaja Yoga indefinitely;

The ashram of Magliano Sabina is temporarily closed for collective

activities of every type.

 

We hope to be able to withdraw these decisions as soon as we can be

sure that balance, wisdom and surrender to Shri Mataji will find

again a place in Magliano Sabina.

 

The Italian Council for the Advancement of Sahaja Yoga

The resolution collected 20 votes on 20 voting people

 

http://www.sahajayoga.org/swan/view/swan_503_2006.asp

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Dear All,

 

i received an email that read:

 

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Dear Jagbir,

 

as i am on my way to understand who is about what i would be grateful

for some comments on this one.

 

js> i waiting for Alan Wherry and WCASY to issue me a similar fatwa

 

Do you find you did something as horrible as Guido did? Or are you

supporting Guido in what he did? Or do you expect some negative

action expectations towards you would help anyone?

 

Would you interrupt a ceremony? Would you beat a sahaja yogi in

presence of newcomers?

 

I used to have a better opinion of you, but such comparisons just

make me wonder. So what's happening anyway?

 

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>> Do you find you did something as horrible as Guido did?

 

i must have since for years leaders like Yogi Mahajan and others

have murmured to others that my children are demonic, that i am not

a SY but a possessed false guru seeking powers. Since a World

Council member Alan Wherry has taken the initiative to actively

demonize my family i must have done something as horrible as Guido

did. What makes such people override Shri Mataji expresses wishes to

leave me alone, that i am not doing anything wrong, that She

approves of my websites, and confirms that all i have written is a

miraculous work and full of great vibrations?

 

 

>> Or are you supporting Guido in what he did?

 

If i heard Alan Wherry denouncing me in a public havan i would

probably have stopped him. Problem is Allan just does not have the

guts to make his views public, or denounce Shri Mataji for Her views

about me, my book and websites when he had ample time and chances.

 

 

>> Or do you expect some negative action expectations towards you

would help anyone?

 

i am at my wit's end as how it is possible for tens of thousands of

SYs to continue keeping silent about the heart and soul of Sahaja

Yoga - that the Last Judgment and Resurrection has begun. This mass

silence and utter lack of urgency by rank and file is satanic in

nature! SUCH AN UNNATURAL PHENOMENA HAS NEVER HAPPENED IN HISTORY!!!

A WCASY fatwa would be a fitting reward for my tormented conscience.

 

 

>> Would you interrupt a ceremony?

 

Not unless they burn my demonic children on their Inquisytion fires.

 

 

>> Would you beat a sahaja yogi in presence of newcomers?

 

i will never beat another human but words hurt far more. Even Jesus

has spoken against murmuring souls, the worst type of all. So it is

better you beat someone than silently spread falsehood against him.

Some SYs think they have advanced and know better, cringing in

compassion for pro-WCASY factions. What about the hurt and pain that

murmuring souls like Alan Wherry and his henchmen have done for

years in presence of newcomers, in effect causing immense damage to

Her Divine Message?

 

Any answers?

 

jagbir

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, " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org wrote:

 

" i will never beat another human but words hurt far more. Even Jesus

has spoken against murmuring souls, the worst type of all. So it is

better you beat someone than silently spread falsehood against him.

Some SYs think they have advanced and know better, cringing in

compassion for pro-WCASY factions. What about the hurt and pain that

murmuring souls like Alan Wherry and his henchmen have done for

years in presence of newcomers, in effect causing immense damage to

Her Divine Message?

 

Any answers? "

 

jagbir

 

Dear Jagbir and All,

 

Yes, i do have an answer. i think what murmuring souls like Alan Wherry and his

henchman have done is far worse in a subtle sense than what Guido has done in a

gross way. i say this because an 'obvious fistycuffs man like Guido' is blatant

and it is clear that he is on the wrong track with the wrong tack.

 

It is not so obvious though, that the 'Alan Wherry's and company' are also on an

equally wrong track with the wrong tack, and yet they have edited out Shri

Mataji's Divine Message of the Last Judgment and Resurrection, which in the

greater spiritual scheme of things, is far worse.

 

Rank and file SY's could speak up about this 'editing out' of the Divine

Message, but they prefer not to. They could also speak up about all the excuses

that the 'a la Wherry's' have made, however, they prefer to keep silent and not

speak up about it.

 

i wonder if they will also choose 'not to speak up about it' when they are

individually held accountable for the Divine Message. Surely then such excuses

as 'a la Wherry' said it was okay', or 'we did not know that the Divine Message

was edited out' are just not going to 'hold water'. They will then be told that

they were warned about this 'editing out' of Shri Mataji's Divine Message, but

they just carried on as if nothing was wrong about that!

 

The fact is, the Last Judgment and Resurrection Time is NOW. That is why it has

to be a 'Last Judgment and Resurrection' message NOW!

 

violet

 

 

> Dear All,

>

> i received an email that read:

>

> ------------

>

> Dear Jagbir,

>

> as i am on my way to understand who is about what i would be

grateful

> for some comments on this one.

>

> js> i waiting for Alan Wherry and WCASY to issue me a similar fatwa

>

> Do you find you did something as horrible as Guido did? Or are you

> supporting Guido in what he did? Or do you expect some negative

> action expectations towards you would help anyone?

>

> Would you interrupt a ceremony? Would you beat a sahaja yogi in

> presence of newcomers?

>

> I used to have a better opinion of you, but such comparisons just

> make me wonder. So what's happening anyway?

>

> ----------------

>

>

> >> Do you find you did something as horrible as Guido did?

>

> i must have since for years leaders like Yogi Mahajan and others

> have murmured to others that my children are demonic, that i am not

> a SY but a possessed false guru seeking powers. Since a World

> Council member Alan Wherry has taken the initiative to actively

> demonize my family i must have done something as horrible as Guido

> did. What makes such people override Shri Mataji expresses wishes to

> leave me alone, that i am not doing anything wrong, that She

> approves of my websites, and confirms that all i have written is a

> miraculous work and full of great vibrations?

>

>

> >> Or are you supporting Guido in what he did?

>

> If i heard Alan Wherry denouncing me in a public havan i would

> probably have stopped him. Problem is Allan just does not have the

> guts to make his views public, or denounce Shri Mataji for Her views

> about me, my book and websites when he had ample time and chances.

>

>

> >> Or do you expect some negative action expectations towards you

> would help anyone?

>

> i am at my wit's end as how it is possible for tens of thousands of

> SYs to continue keeping silent about the heart and soul of Sahaja

> Yoga - that the Last Judgment and Resurrection has begun. This mass

> silence and utter lack of urgency by rank and file is satanic in

> nature! SUCH AN UNNATURAL PHENOMENA HAS NEVER HAPPENED IN HISTORY!!!

> A WCASY fatwa would be a fitting reward for my tormented conscience.

>

>

> >> Would you interrupt a ceremony?

>

> Not unless they burn my demonic children on their Inquisytion fires.

>

>

> >> Would you beat a sahaja yogi in presence of newcomers?

>

> i will never beat another human but words hurt far more. Even Jesus

> has spoken against murmuring souls, the worst type of all. So it is

> better you beat someone than silently spread falsehood against him.

> Some SYs think they have advanced and know better, cringing in

> compassion for pro-WCASY factions. What about the hurt and pain that

> murmuring souls like Alan Wherry and his henchmen have done for

> years in presence of newcomers, in effect causing immense damage to

> Her Divine Message?

>

> Any answers?

>

> jagbir

>