Latest twisted innovation from SYs trying to evade telling the truth.

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Dear Jagbir and All,

 

The Divine Message of Jesus and of Shri Mataji of the Last Judgment and

Resurrection is too powerful a message for the priestly class, and that is why

they have always preferred to `water it down'. In the Organization of Sahaja

Yoga, the priestly class have benefited from the organizational structure built

around Shri Mataji, by having the responsibility for Her videos, houses, and

monies. There must be SOME privilege in that, otherwise why is Guido so

reluctant to relinquish his privileges. I am reminded of Shri Mataji's warning

to leaders that they should be especially careful about 'possessions and monies'

in Sahaja Yoga.

 

In Jesus's Time, there was no early organizational structure built around Him.

However Jesus's Disciples had no problem to spread His Message of the `Last

Judgment and Resurrection to come', inspite of putting themselves in mortal

danger. Sahaja Yogis probably face a worse mortal danger, because it is one that

is not so easily seen. This danger is that Shri Mataji's Will has been hijacked,

and now you have to follow the Will of the SY Pharisees. Their Will over you has

been officially institutionalised by them. Now, the only way to get out from

under their Usurped Will is to leave the Organization altogether.

 

The SY Pharisees have hijacked Her Will and Her Wishes. They do not want to

promote Her Divine Message, but would rather promote the 'watered-down

version'…. the Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Message. That means that all potential

Messengers of Her Divine Message are thwarted and not supported according to the

Will of these SY Pharisees. The Disciples of Shri Mataji have been `led to

believe' that these the SY Pharisees are going to declare Her Incarnation and

Her Divine Message, when historically, they have never done so. It has always

been the Disciples that spread the message, and never the Pharisees and scribes.

 

It must be obvious to spiritually discerning SY's that the SY Pharisees have no

intention nor interest in Her Divine Message to the 'world at large', just like

Shri Mataji has done for thirty years or so. Surely, this omission must be

noticed by now. Surely, it must be seen by spiritually discerning SY's that Her

Divine Message has been 'watered down' into a Subtle System Message only.

 

Surely, `by their fruits, you must know them' by now! It also suits them to have

SY's greatly occupied with their `caught-up-subtle-systems', so that they will

forget all about the Divine Message. The Truth is that the SY Pharisees want to

forget all about Shri Mataji's Divine Message.

 

Jesus's Disciples were under no illusion regarding the Pharisees. They knew that

the Pharisees were `wolves in sheep's clothing'. They also knew that they were

`unbelieving hypocritical vipers' who had no interest whatsoever in Jesus's

Divine Message. Their very last desire was for people to become spiritually

liberated. Today, we have a similar situation in Sahaja Yoga. Tell any SY leader

(I mean facilitator) that you are your own guru, master and teacher, and they

will inwardly (if not outwardly) grimace at that word from Your Self, even

though THAT is exactly what Shri Mataji has also said we are to be!

 

Shri Mataji has in fact set up this Spiritual Drama of the struggle between

Priestly Power and Individual SY Power within the Organization of SY itself. She

has given us many hints as to the `non-significance' of leadership, calling it a

`maya'. She has requested that leader after leader `step down', and finally

abolished `leaders' altogether. Now, there are only supposed to be facilitators.

Yes…. the `follow-and-obey-your-leader' clause has finally been edited out of

the Organization by Shri Mataji Herself, because too many SY's are following and

obeying them in a very spiritually blind fashion. Now many SY's are following

the teachings of the SY Pharisees, rather than following the teachings of Shri

Mataji.

 

Jagbir and i have been recently told that it is now acceptable for Shri Mataji's

" Absolute Truth " to have " variant readings " ! How is that possible that the

" Absolute Truth " can have " variant readings " ? Something just does not add up

here! However, in their thirst for temporal priestly power, nothing surprises me

anymore. This belief can only originate from these same SY Pharisees who have

ambitions of power over SY's. The only thing that concerns me is that the `very

elect' are being deceived by these present-day-pharisees.

 

violet

 

 

 

, " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org wrote:

>

> Dear Violet,

>

> You said that:

>

> >

> > It is not so obvious though, that the 'Alan Wherry's and company'

> > are also on an equally wrong track with the wrong tack, and yet

> > they have edited out Shri Mataji's Divine Message of the Last

> > Judgment and Resurrection, which in the greater spiritual scheme

> > of things, is far worse.

> >

>

> i have to admit that i have erred and in a lapse of attention forgot

> the obvious. It is indeed far, Far, FAR adharmic to edit out Her

> Divine Message and effectively prevent those attending SY public

> programs from finding out the truth. This has a snowballing effect

> as those who leave tell others of their Sahaja Yoga experience -

> that it is about aome subtle system. The next time these people do

> not even give a passing glance, and are the least interested.

>

> The SY foundations have remain permanently flawed structurally from

> the beginning. Compound this over years and decades and the immense

> waste of energy, money and talent is evident. Every attempt to erect

> subsequent structures have ended in collapse and abject failure, as

> SYs have themselves witnessed time and again. And Shri Mataji and

> Her Divine Message remains as obscure as ever.

>

> So now we have SYs who are justified victims of WCASY's, leader's,

> coordinator's own lies and deception, desperately trying to yet

> again build on that same flawed foundation. Guess experienced fools

> never learn.

>

> And we have the latest twisted and devilishly ingenious innovation

> from such SYs trying to evade telling the truth. They are now saying

> that Shri Mataji's talks allows deviant readings.

>

> i can give another deviant reading -

>

> " Since pedophiles love 'playing' with young children so much we

> should not allow them near our loved ones " . SYs, in the boundless

> compassion, neither want to hurt the feelings of pedophiles nor

> frighten the public. Instead it is better to edit/lie and say " Some

> people just love children " and let the public discover for

> themselves that SYs were actually refering to pedophiles.

>

> That is why those seekers who are told the official deviant reading

> that Sahaja Yoga is a stress manager are expected to slowly discover

> that it is actually about the Last Judgment and Resurrection. But

> 99.99% leave long before that, all gone with the officially

> sanctioned lie that Sahaj Yoga is about stress relieve or chakras or

> subtle system.

>

> But who benefits from this wrong conclusion? WCASY and their SYSSR

> of course, and they have cleverly given a wrong conclusion based on

> Statement 1 and Statement 2 below, and yet again 'blurred the

> spiritual lines' just so they can assuage their consciences in

> editing out the Divine Message.

>

> Statement 1:-

>

> People vary in their spiritual understanding of Shri Mataji's

> Truths. (Shri Mataji has said this too.)

>

>

> Statement 2:-

>

> People will not all understand the depths of Shri Mataji's Truths,

> and therefore the spiritual understanding will vary from a very

> shallow spiritual understanding to a deep understanding of Her

> Truths. (Shri Mataji has said this too.)

>

>

> Conclusion:-

>

> Therefore variant readings are acceptable. Absolutely false. It is a

> mere twisted innovation from SYs trying to evade telling the truth.

> (Shri Mataji never said that.)

>

> Read this email from a concerned SY:

>

> " To all my brothers and sisters who are devotees of the Great Adi

> Shakti,

>

> i would like to present a scathing letter addressed to all of us

> regarding Shri Mataji and Sahaja Yoga:

>

> " It is astonishing that the sahaja yogis, who believe Shri Mataji to

> be the savior of humanity prophecied by many religious scriptures,

> have not the conviction to promote her to the world openly, honestly

> and unashamedly as that. Promotion of the savior will draw more

> serious attention from many more people than do the current vague

> claims about stress relief and peace of mind. This lack of

> conviction speaks volumes and is the same reason they fail to

> respond to those who challenge SY. You simply can't be one thing and

> then attempt to portray yourself as another - no matter how clever

> you are, it shows and people see it very clearly. This is called

> hypocrisy. It indicates the vast majority of sahaja yogis are in a

> state of denial.

>

> On the premise that Shri Mataji is indeed the Adi Shakti, on what

> basis do the sahaja yogis take it upon themselves to discriminate as

> to whom is delivered the message of her present incarnation and by

> what convoluted process that message is selectively delivered? To

> take upon themselves to make such discriminations is an expression

> of an elitist, missionary culture motivated by power and authority

> over others. The message must be very plain and simple if every

> person on the planet is to be afforded the opportunity to draw their

> own conclusions about the goddess incarnate. Why do the sahaja yogis

> make something so simple so complicated?. Why are they doing so poor

> a job in telling the world of Shri Mataji, when as the goddess she

> will surely stand and be recognised as the reality they claim she

is?

>

> My parting word is that like it or not, Shri Mataji and her sahaja

> yogis must face the issues presented by those who challenge them.

> Intelligent response is required and what remains to be seen is

> whether they are capable of this. The longer they avoid it, the more

> SY will be clearly identified to be lacking in credibility and its

> members in integrity. The more they will appear to be a cultish

> throw-back to the dark ages. I recommend the sahaja yogis today

> change their whole approach and start promoting SY as what it is - a

> religion focused around a personality who has claimed, and is

> understood by them, to be the Adi Shakti, divine mother of the

> universe. This is, after all, the year of exposure for SY.

>

> May truth prevail. "

>

> Alex

>

>

> -----------

>

>

> So deviant reading my foot. This twisted and devilishly ingenious

> innovation from SYs trying to evade telling the truth should be

> called " devious reading " , or " dubious reading " , or " diaboloical

> reading " . i am not a kindergarten subtle system SY like them. A

> spade must be called a spade, and " dubious " is a devious corruption

> of " deviant " . So please do not make a deviant reading of my post.

>

> jagbir

>

> Note: This SY was irate that Guido hit someone in anger. Just want

> to remind him that Shri Jesus hit a number of traders with a big

> staff since He was angered by their desecrating the sanctity of the

> temple. There are times when we cannot stay in the witness state and

> must act with determination.

>

> i had a number of horrible experiences with senior SYs. One of the

> worst was when this senior SY exclaimed loudly to others that i tape

> the mouth of my months-old daughter Lalita as she was crying

> (perhaps because she was hungry or needed a diaper change). i was

> compelled to angrily confront his unwarranted abundance of Sahaj

> Love. (He had earlier requested during a meeting that a havan be

> made of my religious/spiritual books, in my presence. i was made to

> look like a possessed neophyte in the company of great enlightened,

> self-realized souls, and had to be cleansed with their Sahaj Love.)

>

> i have more Sahaj Love stories but will share them over time in

> small doses. Too much Sahaj Love in a single post can kill!

>

>

> > , " jagbir singh "

> > <adishakti_org@> wrote:

> >

> > " i will never beat another human but words hurt far more. Even

> > Jesus has spoken against murmuring souls, the worst type of all.

> > So it is better you beat someone than silently spread falsehood

> > against him. Some SYs think they have advanced and know better,

> > cringing in compassion for pro-WCASY factions. What about the hurt

> > and pain that murmuring souls like Alan Wherry and his henchmen

> > have done for years in presence of newcomers, in effect causing

> > immense damage to Her Divine Message?

> >

> > Any answers? "

> >

> > jagbir

> >

> , " Violet "

> <violet.tubb@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Jagbir and All,

> >

> > Yes, i do have an answer. i think what murmuring souls like Alan

> > Wherry and his henchman have done is far worse in a subtle sense

> > than what Guido has done in a gross way. i say this because

> > an 'obvious fistycuffs man like Guido' is blatant and it is clear

> > that he is on the wrong track with the wrong tack.

> >

> > It is not so obvious though, that the 'Alan Wherry's and company'

> > are also on an equally wrong track with the wrong tack, and yet

> > they have edited out Shri Mataji's Divine Message of the Last

> > Judgment and Resurrection, which in the greater spiritual scheme

> > of things, is far worse.

> >

> > Rank and file SY's could speak up about this 'editing out' of the

> > Divine Message, but they prefer not to. They could also speak up

> > about all the excuses that the 'a la Wherry's' have made, however,

> > they prefer to keep silent and not speak up about it.

> >

> > i wonder if they will also choose 'not to speak up about it' when

> > they are individually held accountable for the Divine Message.

> > Surely then such excuses as 'a la Wherry' said it was okay',

> > or 'we did not know that the Divine Message was edited out' are

> > just not going to 'hold water'. They will then be told that they

> > were warned about this 'editing out' of Shri Mataji's Divine

> > Message, but they just carried on as if nothing was wrong about

> > that!

> >

> > The fact is, the Last Judgment and Resurrection Time is NOW. That

> > is why it has to be a 'Last Judgment and Resurrection' message

NOW!

> >

> > violet

> >

> >

> > > Dear All,

> > >

> > > i received an email that read:

> > >

> > > ------------

> > >

> > > Dear Jagbir,

> > >

> > > as i am on my way to understand who is about what i would be

> > > grateful for some comments on this one.

> > >

> > > js> i waiting for Alan Wherry and WCASY to issue me a similar

> > > fatwa

> > >

> > > Do you find you did something as horrible as Guido did? Or are

> > > you supporting Guido in what he did? Or do you expect some

> > > negative action expectations towards you would help anyone?

> > >

> > > Would you interrupt a ceremony? Would you beat a sahaja yogi in

> > > presence of newcomers?

> > >

> > > I used to have a better opinion of you, but such comparisons

> > > just make me wonder. So what's happening anyway?

> > >

> > > ----------------

> > >

> > >

> > > >> Do you find you did something as horrible as Guido did?

> > >

> > > i must have since for years leaders like Yogi Mahajan and others

> > > have murmured to others that my children are demonic, that i am

> > > not a SY but a possessed false guru seeking powers. Since a

> > > World Council member Alan Wherry has taken the initiative to

> > > actively demonize my family i must have done something as

> > > horrible as Guido did. What makes such people override Shri

> > > Mataji expresses wishes to leave me alone, that i am not doing

> > > anything wrong, that She approves of my websites, and confirms

> > > that all i have written is

> > > a miraculous work and full of great vibrations?

> > >

> > >

> > > >> Or are you supporting Guido in what he did?

> > >

> > > If i heard Alan Wherry denouncing me in a public havan i would

> > > probably have stopped him. Problem is Allan just does not have

> > > the guts to make his views public, or denounce Shri Mataji for

> > > Her views about me, my book and websites when he had ample time

> > > and chances.

> > >

> > >

> > > >> Or do you expect some negative action expectations towards

> > > you would help anyone?

> > >

> > > i am at my wit's end as how it is possible for tens of thousands

> > > of SYs to continue keeping silent about the heart and soul of

> > > Sahaja Yoga - that the Last Judgment and Resurrection has begun.

> > > This mass silence and utter lack of urgency by rank and file is

> > > satanic in nature! SUCH AN UNNATURAL PHENOMENA HAS NEVER

> > > HAPPENED IN HISTORY!!! A WCASY fatwa would be a fitting reward

> > > for my tormented conscience.

> > >

> > >

> > > >> Would you interrupt a ceremony?

> > >

> > > Not unless they burn my demonic children on their Inquisytion

> > > fires.

> > >

> > >

> > > >> Would you beat a sahaja yogi in presence of newcomers?

> > >

> > > i will never beat another human but words hurt far more. Even

> > > Jesus has spoken against murmuring souls, the worst type of all.

> > > So it is better you beat someone than silently spread falsehood

> > > against him. Some SYs think they have advanced and know better,

> > > cringing in compassion for pro-WCASY factions. What about the

> > > hurt and pain that murmuring souls like Alan Wherry and his

> > > henchmen have done for years in presence of newcomers, in effect

> > > causing immense damage to Her Divine Message?

> > >

> > > Any answers?

> > >

> > > jagbir

> > >

> >

>