i have decided that in no way can i be part of this organization any longer

[Guest guest]

, " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org

wrote:

>

> For the last three decades the following crucial wishes of Shri

> Mataji have never been fulfilled by SY leaders/management, and the

> rank and file now have have permanently condemned themselves as

> hypocrites, liars and cowards:

>

> a) Announce the Last Judgment to all the seekers of truth, to all

> the nations of the world, so that nobody misses the blessings of

> the Divine;

>

> " Today, Sahaja Yoga has reached the state of Mahayoga, which is en-

> masse evolution manifested through it. It is this day's Yuga

> Dharma. It is the way the Last Judgment is taking place. Announce

> it to all the seekers of truth, to all the nations of the world,

> so that nobody misses the blessings of the Divine to achieve their

> meaning, their absolute, their spirit. "

>

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

>

>

> b) Declare to all that it is the Resurrection Time;

>

> " Declare to all the nations now that I ... have come for this

> special time, that is the Resurrection Time. "

>

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

>

>

> c) Declare to all the nations that She is the Holy Ghost (Spirit);

>

> " Declare to all the nations now that I am the Holy Ghost and I have

> come for this special time. that is the Resurrection Time. "

>

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

>

>

> d) SYs to prove to all that She is indeed the Adi Shakti;

>

> " I am the Adi Shakti. I am the one who has come on this earth for

> the first time in this form to do this tremendous task. The more

> you'll understand this the better it would be. You will change

> tremendously. I knew I'll have to say that openly one day and we

> have said it. But now it is you people who have to prove it, that

> I'm that. "

>

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

>

>

> And those who are doing exactly what Shri Mataji has deeply desired

> for years are condemned, excommunicated and shunned by rank and

> file SYs, leaders and WCASY members.

>

> Yes, by deliberately suppressing Her deepest desires to emancipate

> humanity rank and file SYs have permanently condemned themselves as

> hypocrites, liars and cowards who neither had the dharma nor

> conviction nor common sense to tell the Truth. The officially

> supplanted Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion is a sacrilegious act

> that has no comparison in history. It is an evil possession, a

> powerful negativity like no other.

>

> So what can be done? i can only quote Shri Mataji:

>

> " The Last Judgment has started. We are facing the Last Judgment

> today. We are not aware of it. And all the Satanic Forces have come

> out like the wolves in sheep's clothes. And they are trying to

> attract you and you do not judge them. You only sit down and judge

> the Reality. It has started, it is a fact. It has started. "

>

>

> They are trying to attract you with the Sahaja Yoga Subtle System

> Religion. You do not judge them. You only sit down and judge the

> Reality (Truth). The Last Judgment has started, it is a fact. It

> has started. You will be judged harshly if you ever prevented

> seekers from knowing that the Adi Shakti (Holy Spirit/Ruh) is on

> Earth, that it is the promised Last Judgment and Resurrection - i

> know 99% of SYs have in one way or another never told that to

> those attending their public programs .... even after months of

> their attendance!

>

> And over the decades hundreds of thousands have left for good

> without realizing how close they were to salvation. Despite Shri

> Mataji's plea that no seeker " misses the blessings of the Divine

> to achieve their meaning, their absolute, their spirit " , the vast

> majority were most unfortunate as no SY followed Shri Mataji's

> explicit desire. Instead they were told about the subtle system,

> kundalini, chakras and benefits of meditation which every Osho,

> Muktananda and Yogi Bhajan also tell their followers. The similar

> teachings of false gurus and SYs collude to deceive the masses.

>

> All preachers and followers of the SYSSR have come out like the

> wolves in sheep's clothes. They are deceiving the seekers and have

> removed all traces of these explicit orders of Shri Mataji from

> their websites, pamphlets, public programs and conscience. This is

> the greatest satanic force that prevents humanity from knowing

> about the Last Judgment and Resurrection.

>

> i am standing on what i say. It is all in black and white. The

> WCASY and SY leaders/management/ranks are invited to present this

> post to Shri Mataji or whoever they feel is capable of confronting

> me. i give them my written assurance that i will NEVER back out of

> what i believe in heart, mind and soul. Take this offer while Shri

> Mataji is still on Earth. i am giving you my word - i will repeat

> all that i have accused WCASY and SY leaders/management/ranks of.

> In fact i will add that the entire Sahaja Yoga organization has

> willfully committed, and still continues to commit, a collective

> crime against humanity. So show Her this post while there is still

> time. Thanks.

>

> Jai Shri Ganapathi,

>

>

> jagbir

>

>

 

Dear All,

 

i believe most of you must have seen this latest SWAN post and video:

 

" SWAN " <noreply

" jagbir singh " <adishakti_org

Mon, 19 Jun 2006 03:15:39 (GMT)

SWAN for Sunday, June 18, 2006

 

Dear jagbir,

 

A new announcement of SWAN is available online. Please click on the

following link to view this issue:

 

http://www.sahajayoga.org/swan

 

 

Historic video affirming the role of The World Council Of Sahaja Yoga

---------------

In July, 2005, there was a historic announcement regarding the role The World

Council Of Sahaja Yoga in the presence Shri Mataji.

 

Please below to view the video of this historic

announcement.

 

http://www.sahajayoga.org/webcast/streams.asp?vid=23

 

 

What i see is a sedated and incapacitated Shri Mataji who, without hardly

speaking a word, is having Her Will distributed amongst members of WCASY. It is

indeed sheer blasphemy and a satanic lie to distribute such powers. There are

other ways to distribute or delegate responsibility but never can a person's

will be shared by others. That is just not possible Sir C.P.! Humans may write

their wills but are never able to surrender it to others - legally, morally or

medically. We are talking about the Adi Shakti, a divine incarnation sir!

 

How is it possible to claim that Shri Mataji bequeathed Her Will to a bunch of

cowards and hypocrites who have never obeyed Her explicit orders? This

unprecedented claim indeed defies all logic, historical facts, consciousness,

conscience and DNA! Not only have WCASY committed a crime against humanity by

keeping them in the dark about Her Divine Message but are now guilty of a most

sacrilegious act against God Almighty - they are now the official re/presenters

of the Divine Will. This is a most satanic and blasphemous act, unprecedented in

the history of humankind.

 

After viewing it i have decided that in no way can i be part of this

organization any longer, nor call myself a SY. i do not want to be guilty by

reason of association. All i want to do now is meditate on the Adi Shakti within

and serve Her, and no one else. SYs may bend to the will of WCASY but my

conscience is clear - i cannot be associated with an earthly organization that

claims to re/present the Will of God Almighty's Shakti.

 

One question to that so-called historical hijacking and official distribution of

Her Will among WCASY members in July, 2005. How come just weeks after this

announcement the destruction of WCASY commenced with the Guido bombshell that

lead to the devastating leak of Shri Mataji's medical history in PDF? How come

council members who shared that Will began fighting and expelling each other so

soon? How come those who usurped Her Will started witnessing the immediate

self-destruction of WCASY?

 

So did the Adi Shakti really surrender Her Will or was it usurped by a most

ignorant bunch? Actually it did cross my mind to ask Arwinder to pose the same

question to Her in his Sahasrara. i quickly realized that i would be a fool to

have any doubts, an insult to the Primordial Mother who for years have continued

to reveal the deepest of spiritual secrets. The least i could do is to divest

all links with an organization that claims to be re/presenters of Her Will. That

is the only way to prevent being tormented of association with WCASY or SYs,

both partners in crimes against humanity and God Almighty. How can any human or

organization dare claim to be re/presenter's of His Shakti's Will?

 

jagbir

[Guest guest]

Dear Jagbir and All,

 

As a " born again " Christian, i just want to say that i don't think i want to be

called a " Sahaja Yogi " anymore, after i see what WCASY and followers are doing

with Shri Mataji's Will and Wish.

 

There is one Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi on Earth, and none can take Her Place or

Usurp Her Will, or Divide/Tear Her Will into little bits and pieces. What is

happening around Her, reminds me of what happened to Shri Jesus, when the people

around Him cast lots for pieces of His Garment: -

 

" And they cast lots, dividing up His garments among themselves. And the people

stood by, looking on. (Luke 23:34b; 35a)

 

Shri Mataji on Earth is the Incarnation and Reflection of the Holy Spirit within

human beings. She told us that She is introducing us to the Holy Spirit/Adi

Shakti within. It is, of course, up to each of us, to follow through with that

Introduction.

 

If a person does carry through with that Introduction, then they have the Adi

Shakti within them, and Her Will and Wish is represented by Herself, right

within you, in your own spiritual temple that Shri Jesus described as the

'temple not made with human hands'. As this is the case, I don't understand the

need for WCASY to want to do that job, also. (They have told SY's that they too

'now represent Her Will'. There is a definite double-up of job description

here.)

 

The fact is: -

 

Shri Mataji on Earth does not need representation because She has introduced us

to THE MOTHER OF THE UNIVERSE HERSELF, of whom Shri Mataji on Earth is but an

Incarnation. That " Mother of the Universe " is the Holy Spirit of the Christians,

the Ruh of Allah of the Muslims, the Adi Shakti of the Hindus, the Maitreya of

the Buddhists, the Eykaa Mayee of the Sikhs, and the Shekinah of the Jews, and

the Great Mother of Taoists.

 

In this Age of Satya Yuga, many seekers will continue to come into the knowledge

of the Last Judgment and Resurrection which leads to spiritual liberation. The

Divine Message will go out, as Shri Jesus taught it, and as Shri Mataji has

fulfilled it, and completed it. The only thing i am surprised at, is that I find

myself outside of the organization doing this job. Of course, such a scenario

was not totally unexpected, as Shri Mataji said at Sydney International Airport

in 1993, that if Her Divine Message of the Last Judgment and Resurrection was

not given from within the organization, that She had people to give it from

without the organization.

 

I know that Christians and Muslims are especially knowledgeable and have no fear

of this traditional eschatological message. I know that Sikhs and Hindus are

open to it. Others will accept it, too. The Last Judgment and Resurrection

Message is one that will usher humanity successfully from the Kali Yuga to the

Satya Yuga, because " Satya " means Truth, and this Message is a Message of Truth.

It seems a foregone conclusion though, that Sahaja Yogis are not going to be

allowed to openly declare this particular Eschatological Message of Truth of

Shri Mataji. Therefore, I do not think I want to continue to call myself a

" Sahaja Yogi " when there is such dereliction of duty by Sahaja Yogis. The thing

is, if enough SY took a stand to declare Her Message, WCASY would have to change

their Will and make it in tune with Shri Mataji's Will and Wish to declare it.

 

In future, the teachings of the Adi Shakti will find their place in the various

spiritual traditions, as Her Words fulfil all the eschatological expectations

and prophesies of these spiritual traditions. People will experience their

Second Birth of their Spirit, and thereby attain their spiritual liberation.

Priests, leaders, and others will not be needed. No `lesser lights' will need to

be followed other than the Light of the Holy Spirit within one's own temple. It

will be a Pure Religion for the Satya Yuga, where people from all spiritual

traditions will be able to see eye-to-eye again. It will be a Pure Religion that

is untainted by the SYSSR and those who thought they could usurp the Will of the

Holy Spirit.

 

Violet

 

 

, " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org wrote:

>

> , " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org@> wrote:

> >

> > For the last three decades the following crucial wishes of Shri

> > Mataji have never been fulfilled by SY leaders/management, and the

> > rank and file now have have permanently condemned themselves as

> > hypocrites, liars and cowards:

> >

> > a) Announce the Last Judgment to all the seekers of truth, to all

> > the nations of the world, so that nobody misses the blessings of

> > the Divine;

> >

> > " Today, Sahaja Yoga has reached the state of Mahayoga, which is

en-

> > masse evolution manifested through it. It is this day's Yuga

> > Dharma. It is the way the Last Judgment is taking place. Announce

> > it to all the seekers of truth, to all the nations of the world,

> > so that nobody misses the blessings of the Divine to achieve their

> > meaning, their absolute, their spirit. "

> >

> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> >

> >

> > b) Declare to all that it is the Resurrection Time;

> >

> > " Declare to all the nations now that I ... have come for this

> > special time, that is the Resurrection Time. "

> >

> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> >

> >

> > c) Declare to all the nations that She is the Holy Ghost (Spirit);

> >

> > " Declare to all the nations now that I am the Holy Ghost and I

have

> > come for this special time. that is the Resurrection Time. "

> >

> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> >

> >

> > d) SYs to prove to all that She is indeed the Adi Shakti;

> >

> > " I am the Adi Shakti. I am the one who has come on this earth for

> > the first time in this form to do this tremendous task. The more

> > you'll understand this the better it would be. You will change

> > tremendously. I knew I'll have to say that openly one day and we

> > have said it. But now it is you people who have to prove it, that

> > I'm that. "

> >

> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> >

> >

> > And those who are doing exactly what Shri Mataji has deeply

desired

> > for years are condemned, excommunicated and shunned by rank and

> > file SYs, leaders and WCASY members.

> >

> > Yes, by deliberately suppressing Her deepest desires to emancipate

> > humanity rank and file SYs have permanently condemned themselves

as

> > hypocrites, liars and cowards who neither had the dharma nor

> > conviction nor common sense to tell the Truth. The officially

> > supplanted Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion is a sacrilegious

act

> > that has no comparison in history. It is an evil possession, a

> > powerful negativity like no other.

> >

> > So what can be done? i can only quote Shri Mataji:

> >

> > " The Last Judgment has started. We are facing the Last Judgment

> > today. We are not aware of it. And all the Satanic Forces have

come

> > out like the wolves in sheep's clothes. And they are trying to

> > attract you and you do not judge them. You only sit down and judge

> > the Reality. It has started, it is a fact. It has started. "

> >

> >

> > They are trying to attract you with the Sahaja Yoga Subtle System

> > Religion. You do not judge them. You only sit down and judge the

> > Reality (Truth). The Last Judgment has started, it is a fact. It

> > has started. You will be judged harshly if you ever prevented

> > seekers from knowing that the Adi Shakti (Holy Spirit/Ruh) is on

> > Earth, that it is the promised Last Judgment and Resurrection - i

> > know 99% of SYs have in one way or another never told that to

> > those attending their public programs .... even after months of

> > their attendance!

> >

> > And over the decades hundreds of thousands have left for good

> > without realizing how close they were to salvation. Despite Shri

> > Mataji's plea that no seeker " misses the blessings of the Divine

> > to achieve their meaning, their absolute, their spirit " , the vast

> > majority were most unfortunate as no SY followed Shri Mataji's

> > explicit desire. Instead they were told about the subtle system,

> > kundalini, chakras and benefits of meditation which every Osho,

> > Muktananda and Yogi Bhajan also tell their followers. The similar

> > teachings of false gurus and SYs collude to deceive the masses.

> >

> > All preachers and followers of the SYSSR have come out like the

> > wolves in sheep's clothes. They are deceiving the seekers and have

> > removed all traces of these explicit orders of Shri Mataji from

> > their websites, pamphlets, public programs and conscience. This is

> > the greatest satanic force that prevents humanity from knowing

> > about the Last Judgment and Resurrection.

> >

> > i am standing on what i say. It is all in black and white. The

> > WCASY and SY leaders/management/ranks are invited to present this

> > post to Shri Mataji or whoever they feel is capable of confronting

> > me. i give them my written assurance that i will NEVER back out of

> > what i believe in heart, mind and soul. Take this offer while Shri

> > Mataji is still on Earth. i am giving you my word - i will repeat

> > all that i have accused WCASY and SY leaders/management/ranks of.

> > In fact i will add that the entire Sahaja Yoga organization has

> > willfully committed, and still continues to commit, a collective

> > crime against humanity. So show Her this post while there is still

> > time. Thanks.

> >

> > Jai Shri Ganapathi,

> >

> >

> > jagbir

> >

> >

>

> Dear All,

>

> i believe most of you must have seen this latest SWAN post and

video:

>

> " SWAN " <noreply

> " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org

> Mon, 19 Jun 2006 03:15:39 (GMT)

> SWAN for Sunday, June 18, 2006

>

> Dear jagbir,

>

> A new announcement of SWAN is available online. Please click on the

> following link to view this issue:

>

> http://www.sahajayoga.org/swan

>

>

> Historic video affirming the role of The World Council Of Sahaja

Yoga

> ---------------

> In July, 2005, there was a historic announcement regarding the role

The World Council Of Sahaja Yoga in the presence Shri Mataji.

>

> Please below to view the video of this historic

> announcement.

>

> http://www.sahajayoga.org/webcast/streams.asp?vid=23

>

>

> What i see is a sedated and incapacitated Shri Mataji who, without

hardly speaking a word, is having Her Will distributed amongst members

of WCASY. It is indeed sheer blasphemy and a satanic lie to distribute

such powers. There are other ways to distribute or delegate

responsibility but never can a person's will be shared by others. That

is just not possible Sir C.P.! Humans may write their wills but are

never able to surrender it to others - legally, morally or medically.

We are talking about the Adi Shakti, a divine incarnation sir!

>

> How is it possible to claim that Shri Mataji bequeathed Her Will to

a bunch of cowards and hypocrites who have never obeyed Her explicit

orders? This unprecedented claim indeed defies all logic, historical

facts, consciousness, conscience and DNA! Not only have WCASY

committed a crime against humanity by keeping them in the dark about

Her Divine Message but are now guilty of a most sacrilegious act

against God Almighty - they are now the official re/presenters of the

Divine Will. This is a most satanic and blasphemous act, unprecedented

in the history of humankind.

>

> After viewing it i have decided that in no way can i be part of this

organization any longer, nor call myself a SY. i do not want to be

guilty by reason of association. All i want to do now is meditate on

the Adi Shakti within and serve Her, and no one else. SYs may bend to

the will of WCASY but my conscience is clear - i cannot be associated

with an earthly organization that claims to re/present the Will of God

Almighty's Shakti.

>

> One question to that so-called historical hijacking and official

distribution of Her Will among WCASY members in July, 2005. How come

just weeks after this announcement the destruction of WCASY commenced

with the Guido bombshell that lead to the devastating leak of Shri

Mataji's medical history in PDF? How come council members who shared

that Will began fighting and expelling each other so soon? How come

those who usurped Her Will started witnessing the immediate self-

destruction of WCASY?

>

> So did the Adi Shakti really surrender Her Will or was it usurped by

a most ignorant bunch? Actually it did cross my mind to ask Arwinder

to pose the same question to Her in his Sahasrara. i quickly realized

that i would be a fool to have any doubts, an insult to the Primordial

Mother who for years have continued to reveal the deepest of spiritual

secrets. The least i could do is to divest all links with an

organization that claims to be re/presenters of Her Will. That is the

only way to prevent being tormented of association with WCASY or SYs,

both partners in crimes against humanity and God Almighty. How can any

human or organization dare claim to be re/presenter's of His Shakti's

Will?

>

> jagbir

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Jagbir,

 

I don't quite understand why this issue is being brought out again.

Aren't the Sahaj powers-that-be satisfied with the same diktat that

was issued last year that it has to be trotted out again now? There

seems to be some doubt on the part of the senior management whether

the rank and file has taken the matter seriously. Hence the need to

re-affirm the edict. Do you have any background information or the

inside track on this apparent anxiety? As far as is known, the only

open voices of dissent have come from this forum. Perhaps this forum

is being taken seriously after all.

 

Chandra

 

 

, " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org wrote:

> Dear All,

>

> i believe most of you must have seen this latest SWAN post and

video:

>

> " SWAN " <noreply

> " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org

> Mon, 19 Jun 2006 03:15:39 (GMT)

> SWAN for Sunday, June 18, 2006

>

> Dear jagbir,

>

> A new announcement of SWAN is available online. Please click on the

> following link to view this issue:

>

> http://www.sahajayoga.org/swan

>

>

> Historic video affirming the role of The World Council Of Sahaja

Yoga

> ---------------

> In July, 2005, there was a historic announcement regarding the

role The World Council Of Sahaja Yoga in the presence Shri Mataji.

>

> Please below to view the video of this historic

> announcement.

>

> http://www.sahajayoga.org/webcast/streams.asp?vid=23

>

>

> What i see is a sedated and incapacitated Shri Mataji who, without

hardly speaking a word, is having Her Will distributed amongst

members of WCASY. It is indeed sheer blasphemy and a satanic lie to

distribute such powers. There are other ways to distribute or

delegate responsibility but never can a person's will be shared by

others. That is just not possible Sir C.P.! Humans may write their

wills but are never able to surrender it to others - legally,

morally or medically. We are talking about the Adi Shakti, a divine

incarnation sir!

>

> How is it possible to claim that Shri Mataji bequeathed Her Will

to a bunch of cowards and hypocrites who have never obeyed Her

explicit orders? This unprecedented claim indeed defies all logic,

historical facts, consciousness, conscience and DNA! Not only have

WCASY committed a crime against humanity by keeping them in the dark

about Her Divine Message but are now guilty of a most sacrilegious

act against God Almighty - they are now the official re/presenters

of the Divine Will. This is a most satanic and blasphemous act,

unprecedented in the history of humankind.

>

> After viewing it i have decided that in no way can i be part of

this organization any longer, nor call myself a SY. i do not want to

be guilty by reason of association. All i want to do now is meditate

on the Adi Shakti within and serve Her, and no one else. SYs may

bend to the will of WCASY but my conscience is clear - i cannot be

associated with an earthly organization that claims to re/present

the Will of God Almighty's Shakti.

>

> One question to that so-called historical hijacking and official

distribution of Her Will among WCASY members in July, 2005. How come

just weeks after this announcement the destruction of WCASY

commenced with the Guido bombshell that lead to the devastating leak

of Shri Mataji's medical history in PDF? How come council members

who shared that Will began fighting and expelling each other so

soon? How come those who usurped Her Will started witnessing the

immediate self-destruction of WCASY?

>

> So did the Adi Shakti really surrender Her Will or was it usurped

by a most ignorant bunch? Actually it did cross my mind to ask

Arwinder to pose the same question to Her in his Sahasrara. i

quickly realized that i would be a fool to have any doubts, an

insult to the Primordial Mother who for years have continued to

reveal the deepest of spiritual secrets. The least i could do is to

divest all links with an organization that claims to be

re/presenters of Her Will. That is the only way to prevent being

tormented of association with WCASY or SYs, both partners in crimes

against humanity and God Almighty. How can any human or organization

dare claim to be re/presenter's of His Shakti's Will?

>

> jagbir

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Chandra,

 

Thanks for your insight not so noted by others - i was waiting for

someone to second me. i realized that WCASY is asking SYs to smell

a stale subject all over again. Apparently the fresh breeze at this

forum does wonders to clear management hot air and allow SYs to

sniff the difference. i can assure you that this forum is being

taken seriously by SY management and issues threatening their ill-

gotten Will dealt with. WCASY and Sir CP can issue a 1001 videos but

under no circumstance whatsoever can any human/organazation claim to

be re/presenters of Her Will. It is absolutely impossible!

 

The Sahaja Yoga organzation has been overcome by a most satanic

negativity. It is left to the rank and file to resist it and defend

the sanctity and honor of our Mother. All we do here is raise our

voices so that they are heard. Shri Mataji has always wanted us to

be our own masters, and repeatedly said/implied that all leaders are

just lickers of stamps and postmen of letters. Today, after sensing

that the incapitation of Shri Mataji has presented them a devilishly

ingenious opportunity, they are boldly claiming to be re/presenters

of Her Will, contradicting all that She taught us over the decades.

(It is as if the battle between the forces of Good and Evil has

entered a critical, dangerous stage.) Maybe Guido may be right after

all when he aggresively defended against any medication, especially

when Shri Mataji so clearly wrote Her instructions against such an

eventuality in a letter dated 10th Dec. 1998.

 

WCASY is claiming it is a forgery but, knowing how their propaganda

minister Alan Wherry operates and having personally experienced his

devious ways and nature, i am inclined to disbelieve. i do not think

someone like Guido, who has devoted decades of his life and done so

much for Sahaja Yoga, would dare forge Her letter. It just does not

make sense. And the very personal contents had to be kept secret

till it was necessary. (Maybe i will try to get a handwriting expert

to examine it against any of Her prior handwritten letters. Does

anyone have such a letter(s)?)

 

Now, with the turmoil and the hijacking of Her Will i am wonderimg

if She knew the danger/satanic negativity and wanted to forestall

it years ago. Guido made an error by saying Shri Mataji is being

poisoned by the family. He should have insisted that She must never

be given any medication whatsoever, or examined by doctors or sent

to hospital as were Her express wishes. The propaganda ministry just

capitalized on his poor choice of an angry expression - " poisoned " .

Perhaps he meant " poison " in the same context we regard the serious

side-effects of any medication or chemicals or drugs.

 

Today we are all poisoned,

 

jagbir

 

 

, " my2pai " <my2pai

wrote:

>

> Dear Jagbir,

>

> I don't quite understand why this issue is being brought out

again. Aren't the Sahaj powers-that-be satisfied with the same

diktat that was issued last year that it has to be trotted out again

now? There seems to be some doubt on the part of the senior

management whether the rank and file has taken the matter seriously.

Hence the need to re-affirm the edict. Do you have any background

information or the inside track on this apparent anxiety? As far as

is known, the only open voices of dissent have come from this forum.

Perhaps this forum is being taken seriously after all.

>

> Chandra

>

>

> , " jagbir singh "

> <adishakti_org@> wrote:

> > Dear All,

> >

> > i believe most of you must have seen this latest SWAN post and

> video:

> >

> > " SWAN " <noreply@>

> > " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org@>

> > Mon, 19 Jun 2006 03:15:39 (GMT)

> > SWAN for Sunday, June 18, 2006

> >

> > Dear jagbir,

> >

> > A new announcement of SWAN is available online. Please click on

the

> > following link to view this issue:

> >

> > http://www.sahajayoga.org/swan

> >

> >

> > Historic video affirming the role of The World Council Of Sahaja

> Yoga

> > ---------------

> > In July, 2005, there was a historic announcement regarding the

> role The World Council Of Sahaja Yoga in the presence Shri Mataji.

> >

> > Please below to view the video of this historic

> > announcement.

> >

> > http://www.sahajayoga.org/webcast/streams.asp?vid=23

> >

> >

> > What i see is a sedated and incapacitated Shri Mataji who,

without

> hardly speaking a word, is having Her Will distributed amongst

> members of WCASY. It is indeed sheer blasphemy and a satanic lie

to

> distribute such powers. There are other ways to distribute or

> delegate responsibility but never can a person's will be shared by

> others. That is just not possible Sir C.P.! Humans may write their

> wills but are never able to surrender it to others - legally,

> morally or medically. We are talking about the Adi Shakti, a

divine

> incarnation sir!

> >

> > How is it possible to claim that Shri Mataji bequeathed Her Will

> to a bunch of cowards and hypocrites who have never obeyed Her

> explicit orders? This unprecedented claim indeed defies all logic,

> historical facts, consciousness, conscience and DNA! Not only have

> WCASY committed a crime against humanity by keeping them in the

dark

> about Her Divine Message but are now guilty of a most sacrilegious

> act against God Almighty - they are now the official re/presenters

> of the Divine Will. This is a most satanic and blasphemous act,

> unprecedented in the history of humankind.

> >

> > After viewing it i have decided that in no way can i be part of

> this organization any longer, nor call myself a SY. i do not want

to

> be guilty by reason of association. All i want to do now is

meditate

> on the Adi Shakti within and serve Her, and no one else. SYs may

> bend to the will of WCASY but my conscience is clear - i cannot be

> associated with an earthly organization that claims to re/present

> the Will of God Almighty's Shakti.

> >

> > One question to that so-called historical hijacking and official

> distribution of Her Will among WCASY members in July, 2005. How

come

> just weeks after this announcement the destruction of WCASY

> commenced with the Guido bombshell that lead to the devastating

leak

> of Shri Mataji's medical history in PDF? How come council members

> who shared that Will began fighting and expelling each other so

> soon? How come those who usurped Her Will started witnessing the

> immediate self-destruction of WCASY?

> >

> > So did the Adi Shakti really surrender Her Will or was it

usurped

> by a most ignorant bunch? Actually it did cross my mind to ask

> Arwinder to pose the same question to Her in his Sahasrara. i

> quickly realized that i would be a fool to have any doubts, an

> insult to the Primordial Mother who for years have continued to

> reveal the deepest of spiritual secrets. The least i could do is

to

> divest all links with an organization that claims to be

> re/presenters of Her Will. That is the only way to prevent being

> tormented of association with WCASY or SYs, both partners in

crimes

> against humanity and God Almighty. How can any human or

organization

> dare claim to be re/presenter's of His Shakti's Will?

> >

> > jagbir

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Jai Shri Mataji!Jagbir, From what I get, you support Guido and say he is a good man and Sahaja Yogi?!?As far as I know he stopped a sacred havan ceremony,is this an act of a good Sahaja Yogi?He hit a Sahaja Yogi ,while he had another of his allies hlding that brother of ours, is this an act of a good Sahaja Yogi?

Please,read my last post about the last announcment on S.W.A.N. ,take it into consideration and if you see it fits change your opinion.Also, please,for the sake of all seekrers, read again your emails in a detached way and answer to yourself what someone who wants to know more about sahaja Yoga(not a Sahaja Yogi, but a seeker or even a new comer) would understand about Sahaja Yoga by reading your posts.I think they would think Sahaja Yoga is a chaotic cult, truly dangerous for one to enter and would probably run away.Pray to Mother,worship Her and ask Her to show you Her Will. Only throught Her we become Gurus, there is no other way.

May Her Vision be fulfilled!May She forgive my mistakes in this email and in general.A brother

 

-

jagbir singh

Wednesday, June 21, 2006 9:51 PM

Re: i have decided that in no way can i be part of this organization any longer

 

 

Dear Chandra,Thanks for your insight not so noted by others - i was waiting for someone to second me. i realized that WCASY is asking SYs to smell a stale subject all over again. Apparently the fresh breeze at this forum does wonders to clear management hot air and allow SYs to sniff the difference. i can assure you that this forum is being taken seriously by SY management and issues threatening their ill-gotten Will dealt with. WCASY and Sir CP can issue a 1001 videos but under no circumstance whatsoever can any human/organazation claim to be re/presenters of Her Will. It is absolutely impossible!The Sahaja Yoga organzation has been overcome by a most satanic negativity. It is left to the rank and file to resist it and defend the sanctity and honor of our Mother. All we do here is raise our voices so that they are heard. Shri Mataji has always wanted us to be our own masters, and repeatedly said/implied that all leaders are just lickers of stamps and postmen of letters. Today, after sensing that the incapitation of Shri Mataji has presented them a devilishly ingenious opportunity, they are boldly claiming to be re/presenters of Her Will, contradicting all that She taught us over the decades. (It is as if the battle between the forces of Good and Evil has entered a critical, dangerous stage.) Maybe Guido may be right after all when he aggresively defended against any medication, especially when Shri Mataji so clearly wrote Her instructions against such an eventuality in a letter dated 10th Dec. 1998.WCASY is claiming it is a forgery but, knowing how their propaganda minister Alan Wherry operates and having personally experienced his devious ways and nature, i am inclined to disbelieve. i do not think someone like Guido, who has devoted decades of his life and done so much for Sahaja Yoga, would dare forge Her letter. It just does not make sense. And the very personal contents had to be kept secret till it was necessary. (Maybe i will try to get a handwriting expert to examine it against any of Her prior handwritten letters. Does anyone have such a letter(s)?)Now, with the turmoil and the hijacking of Her Will i am wonderimg if She knew the danger/satanic negativity and wanted to forestall it years ago. Guido made an error by saying Shri Mataji is being poisoned by the family. He should have insisted that She must never be given any medication whatsoever, or examined by doctors or sent to hospital as were Her express wishes. The propaganda ministry just capitalized on his poor choice of an angry expression - "poisoned". Perhaps he meant "poison" in the same context we regard the serious side-effects of any medication or chemicals or drugs.Today we are all poisoned,jagbir , "my2pai" <my2pai wrote:>> Dear Jagbir,> > I don't quite understand why this issue is being brought out again. Aren't the Sahaj powers-that-be satisfied with the same diktat that was issued last year that it has to be trotted out again now? There seems to be some doubt on the part of the senior management whether the rank and file has taken the matter seriously. Hence the need to re-affirm the edict. Do you have any background information or the inside track on this apparent anxiety? As far as is known, the only open voices of dissent have come from this forum. Perhaps this forum is being taken seriously after all.> > Chandra> > > , "jagbir singh" > <adishakti_org@> wrote:> > Dear All,> > > > i believe most of you must have seen this latest SWAN post and > video:> > > > "SWAN" <noreply@>> > "jagbir singh" <adishakti_org@>> > Mon, 19 Jun 2006 03:15:39 (GMT)> > SWAN for Sunday, June 18, 2006> > > > Dear jagbir,> > > > A new announcement of SWAN is available online. Please click on the> > following link to view this issue:> > > > http://www.sahajayoga.org/swan> > > > > > Historic video affirming the role of The World Council Of Sahaja > Yoga> > ---------------> > In July, 2005, there was a historic announcement regarding the > role The World Council Of Sahaja Yoga in the presence Shri Mataji.> > > > Please below to view the video of this historic> > announcement.> > > > http://www.sahajayoga.org/webcast/streams.asp?vid=23> > > > > > What i see is a sedated and incapacitated Shri Mataji who, without > hardly speaking a word, is having Her Will distributed amongst > members of WCASY. It is indeed sheer blasphemy and a satanic lie to > distribute such powers. There are other ways to distribute or > delegate responsibility but never can a person's will be shared by > others. That is just not possible Sir C.P.! Humans may write their > wills but are never able to surrender it to others - legally, > morally or medically. We are talking about the Adi Shakti, a divine > incarnation sir!> > > > How is it possible to claim that Shri Mataji bequeathed Her Will > to a bunch of cowards and hypocrites who have never obeyed Her > explicit orders? This unprecedented claim indeed defies all logic, > historical facts, consciousness, conscience and DNA! Not only have > WCASY committed a crime against humanity by keeping them in the dark > about Her Divine Message but are now guilty of a most sacrilegious > act against God Almighty - they are now the official re/presenters > of the Divine Will. This is a most satanic and blasphemous act, > unprecedented in the history of humankind.> > > > After viewing it i have decided that in no way can i be part of > this organization any longer, nor call myself a SY. i do not want to > be guilty by reason of association. All i want to do now is meditate > on the Adi Shakti within and serve Her, and no one else. SYs may > bend to the will of WCASY but my conscience is clear - i cannot be > associated with an earthly organization that claims to re/present > the Will of God Almighty's Shakti.> > > > One question to that so-called historical hijacking and official > distribution of Her Will among WCASY members in July, 2005. How come > just weeks after this announcement the destruction of WCASY > commenced with the Guido bombshell that lead to the devastating leak > of Shri Mataji's medical history in PDF? How come council members > who shared that Will began fighting and expelling each other so > soon? How come those who usurped Her Will started witnessing the > immediate self-destruction of WCASY?> > > > So did the Adi Shakti really surrender Her Will or was it usurped > by a most ignorant bunch? Actually it did cross my mind to ask > Arwinder to pose the same question to Her in his Sahasrara. i > quickly realized that i would be a fool to have any doubts, an > insult to the Primordial Mother who for years have continued to > reveal the deepest of spiritual secrets. The least i could do is to > divest all links with an organization that claims to be > re/presenters of Her Will. That is the only way to prevent being > tormented of association with WCASY or SYs, both partners in crimes > against humanity and God Almighty. How can any human or organization > dare claim to be re/presenter's of His Shakti's Will?> > > > jagbir> >>

[Guest guest]

i will not insult myself by answering. And this is not a forum for

subtle system SYs who worship WCASY and their SYSSR. Please join the

divinesahajayoga forum where you will be welcome.

 

jagbir

 

, " Jai Shri Mataji "

<mprgrandmaster wrote:

>

> Jai Shri Mataji!

> Jagbir, From what I get, you support Guido and say he is a good

man and Sahaja Yogi?!?

> As far as I know he stopped a sacred havan ceremony,is this an act

of a good Sahaja Yogi?He hit a Sahaja Yogi ,while he had another of

his allies hlding that brother of ours, is this an act of a good

Sahaja Yogi?

> Please,read my last post about the last announcment on

S.W.A.N. ,take it into consideration and if you see it fits change

your opinion.Also, please,for the sake of all seekrers, read again

your emails in a detached way and answer to yourself what someone

who wants to know more about sahaja Yoga(not a Sahaja Yogi, but a

seeker or even a new comer) would understand about Sahaja Yoga by

reading your posts.I think they would think Sahaja Yoga is a chaotic

cult, truly dangerous for one to enter and would probably run

away.Pray to Mother,worship Her and ask Her to show you Her Will.

Only throught Her we become Gurus, there is no other way.

> May Her Vision be fulfilled!May She forgive my mistakes in this

email and in general.

> A brother

> -

> jagbir singh

>

> Wednesday, June 21, 2006 9:51 PM

> Re: i have decided that in no

way can i be part of this organization any longer

>

>

> Dear Chandra,

>

> Thanks for your insight not so noted by others - i was waiting

for

> someone to second me. i realized that WCASY is asking SYs to

smell

> a stale subject all over again. Apparently the fresh breeze at

this

> forum does wonders to clear management hot air and allow SYs to

> sniff the difference. i can assure you that this forum is being

> taken seriously by SY management and issues threatening their

ill-

> gotten Will dealt with. WCASY and Sir CP can issue a 1001 videos

but

> under no circumstance whatsoever can any human/organazation

claim to

> be re/presenters of Her Will. It is absolutely impossible!

>

> The Sahaja Yoga organzation has been overcome by a most satanic

> negativity. It is left to the rank and file to resist it and

defend

> the sanctity and honor of our Mother. All we do here is raise

our

> voices so that they are heard. Shri Mataji has always wanted us

to

> be our own masters, and repeatedly said/implied that all leaders

are

> just lickers of stamps and postmen of letters. Today, after

sensing

> that the incapitation of Shri Mataji has presented them a

devilishly

> ingenious opportunity, they are boldly claiming to be

re/presenters

> of Her Will, contradicting all that She taught us over the

decades.

> (It is as if the battle between the forces of Good and Evil has

> entered a critical, dangerous stage.) Maybe Guido may be right

after

> all when he aggresively defended against any medication,

especially

> when Shri Mataji so clearly wrote Her instructions against such

an

> eventuality in a letter dated 10th Dec. 1998.

>

> WCASY is claiming it is a forgery but, knowing how their

propaganda

> minister Alan Wherry operates and having personally experienced

his

> devious ways and nature, i am inclined to disbelieve. i do not

think

> someone like Guido, who has devoted decades of his life and done

so

> much for Sahaja Yoga, would dare forge Her letter. It just does

not

> make sense. And the very personal contents had to be kept secret

> till it was necessary. (Maybe i will try to get a handwriting

expert

> to examine it against any of Her prior handwritten letters. Does

> anyone have such a letter(s)?)

>

> Now, with the turmoil and the hijacking of Her Will i am

wonderimg

> if She knew the danger/satanic negativity and wanted to

forestall

> it years ago. Guido made an error by saying Shri Mataji is being

> poisoned by the family. He should have insisted that She must

never

> be given any medication whatsoever, or examined by doctors or

sent

> to hospital as were Her express wishes. The propaganda ministry

just

> capitalized on his poor choice of an angry expression -

" poisoned " .

> Perhaps he meant " poison " in the same context we regard the

serious

> side-effects of any medication or chemicals or drugs.

>

> Today we are all poisoned,

>

> jagbir

>

> , " my2pai " <my2pai@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Jagbir,

> >

> > I don't quite understand why this issue is being brought out

> again. Aren't the Sahaj powers-that-be satisfied with the same

> diktat that was issued last year that it has to be trotted out

again

> now? There seems to be some doubt on the part of the senior

> management whether the rank and file has taken the matter

seriously.

> Hence the need to re-affirm the edict. Do you have any

background

> information or the inside track on this apparent anxiety? As far

as

> is known, the only open voices of dissent have come from this

forum.

> Perhaps this forum is being taken seriously after all.

> >

> > Chandra

> >

> >

> > , " jagbir singh "

> > <adishakti_org@> wrote:

> > > Dear All,

> > >

> > > i believe most of you must have seen this latest SWAN post

and

> > video:

> > >

> > > " SWAN " <noreply@>

> > > " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org@>

> > > Mon, 19 Jun 2006 03:15:39 (GMT)

> > > SWAN for Sunday, June 18, 2006

> > >

> > > Dear jagbir,

> > >

> > > A new announcement of SWAN is available online. Please click

on

> the

> > > following link to view this issue:

> > >

> > > http://www.sahajayoga.org/swan

> > >

> > >

> > > Historic video affirming the role of The World Council Of

Sahaja

> > Yoga

> > > ---------------

> > > In July, 2005, there was a historic announcement regarding

the

> > role The World Council Of Sahaja Yoga in the presence Shri

Mataji.

> > >

> > > Please below to view the video of this

historic

> > > announcement.

> > >

> > > http://www.sahajayoga.org/webcast/streams.asp?vid=23

> > >

> > >

> > > What i see is a sedated and incapacitated Shri Mataji who,

> without

> > hardly speaking a word, is having Her Will distributed amongst

> > members of WCASY. It is indeed sheer blasphemy and a satanic

lie

> to

> > distribute such powers. There are other ways to distribute or

> > delegate responsibility but never can a person's will be

shared by

> > others. That is just not possible Sir C.P.! Humans may write

their

> > wills but are never able to surrender it to others - legally,

> > morally or medically. We are talking about the Adi Shakti, a

> divine

> > incarnation sir!

> > >

> > > How is it possible to claim that Shri Mataji bequeathed Her

Will

> > to a bunch of cowards and hypocrites who have never obeyed Her

> > explicit orders? This unprecedented claim indeed defies all

logic,

> > historical facts, consciousness, conscience and DNA! Not only

have

> > WCASY committed a crime against humanity by keeping them in

the

> dark

> > about Her Divine Message but are now guilty of a most

sacrilegious

> > act against God Almighty - they are now the official

re/presenters

> > of the Divine Will. This is a most satanic and blasphemous

act,

> > unprecedented in the history of humankind.

> > >

> > > After viewing it i have decided that in no way can i be part

of

> > this organization any longer, nor call myself a SY. i do not

want

> to

> > be guilty by reason of association. All i want to do now is

> meditate

> > on the Adi Shakti within and serve Her, and no one else. SYs

may

> > bend to the will of WCASY but my conscience is clear - i

cannot be

> > associated with an earthly organization that claims to

re/present

> > the Will of God Almighty's Shakti.

> > >

> > > One question to that so-called historical hijacking and

official

> > distribution of Her Will among WCASY members in July, 2005.

How

> come

> > just weeks after this announcement the destruction of WCASY

> > commenced with the Guido bombshell that lead to the

devastating

> leak

> > of Shri Mataji's medical history in PDF? How come council

members

> > who shared that Will began fighting and expelling each other

so

> > soon? How come those who usurped Her Will started witnessing

the

> > immediate self-destruction of WCASY?

> > >

> > > So did the Adi Shakti really surrender Her Will or was it

> usurped

> > by a most ignorant bunch? Actually it did cross my mind to ask

> > Arwinder to pose the same question to Her in his Sahasrara. i

> > quickly realized that i would be a fool to have any doubts, an

> > insult to the Primordial Mother who for years have continued

to

> > reveal the deepest of spiritual secrets. The least i could do

is

> to

> > divest all links with an organization that claims to be

> > re/presenters of Her Will. That is the only way to prevent

being

> > tormented of association with WCASY or SYs, both partners in

> crimes

> > against humanity and God Almighty. How can any human or

> organization

> > dare claim to be re/presenter's of His Shakti's Will?

> > >

> > > jagbir

> > >

> >

>