SY is becoming like a church with sick, blind followers needing treatments 24/7

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shriadishakti , " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org> wrote:

>

> Instead, at an early age, such self-empowered mentors turn these

> easily influenced young minds into expert sorcerers and

> bhootbusters who are embarrassingly fearful of all kinds of

> imaginary bhoots, badhas and catches. (The divinesahajayoga forum

> is an excellent example.) Most are engaged in a daily ritual of

> shoe-beating, chilly-clearing and foot-soaking routine to ward off

> the endless attack of negativity. So serious is the bhoots-are-

> attacking-SYs mentality that innovative catch-clearing techniques

> are invented to ward this evil, a scene not far removed from the

> Inquisition era witches inventing potions to ward off bad

> harvests, or induce pregnancy in barren wombs.

>

> Are these bhoot-fearing, negative-infested and catch-plagued

> youngsters of today going to be the fearless ganas of Shri Ganesha

> tomorrow? Are they God Almighty's Messengers of the Resurrection

> who must prevail? Is it any wonder why we SYs will be able to

> spread Shri Mataji's message to just 1% of humanity only by the

> year 8023?

>

 

 

" Cyro Ribeiro " <cyrobr>

Thu Nov 13, 2003 5:49 pm

Re: [DivineSahajayoga] matka

 

Thanks Christian, Hanna and Dara,

I've learned some new ways with you all.

 

Here in Brazil it's easy to have earthern pots, but it's not cheap

and it's almost produced as an utensil for spiritism african

religions, as I guess happens in Africa. We learned that an earthern

pot carries Mother Earth properties, sucking and caging up the

badhas untill you throw them into the river or sea, where they are

definetely finished.

 

But, we largely use plastic and paper bags, and it's very efficient!

We do not throw plastic into the water because of polution, we

prefer paper bags. If we have to use plastic, we throw out lemmons

and chillis turning the bag inside out, without looking at it. After

we throw the plastic bag in a dustbin. Some like to keep the " paper

bag matka " inside a plastic bag within the seven nights, because

lemmons can tear the paper.

 

Hanna, we use red chillis, small or big ones that are easily found

here. After vibrating all things we never get all that stuff back

before Mother. The matka is kept closed under the bed or hidden

elsewhere.

 

We open the matka if we are going to sleep during the day, within

the seven nights period. It's said that it works every time one is

sleeping.

 

If we wake up in the middle of a nightmare or with bad dreams, we

take the bad vibrations around our head or body with the hands and

throw it inside the open matka, never looking at it.

 

When lemmons and chillis get rotten before the seventh night, it

means they lost their absorbing capacity, so we throw them away and

begin another 7 nights period.

 

I heard about a deep yogini who did matka one after another for an

entire year period!!! I guess we don't need to do that, but two or

three are very good if you're suffering a lot with badhas.

 

Jay Shri Durga Jagadamba!

Your brother Cyro.

 

 

divinesahajayoga/message/959

 

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" fergy108 " <derekferguson21@a...>

Mon Nov 17, 2003 5:09 pm

treatments

 

Jai Shri Mataji

 

In the early days of sy we just did lemons and chillies, later on

from India we learnt about matka with and without water, now we have

people combining the two treatments, so for example people are

getting plastic bags and putting kumkum and water in them them

putting them on there bed, then when they wake up the whole mattress

is soaking wet and very red. then they think this is a great

treatment.

 

after a treatment is told to us, sy`s like to add there own extras

to the treatments. One day we can have a seminar either at a Puja or

online where sy from the early days could tell us what they were

told in the beginning. At least with us the extras don't do any

harm. but to buy a new mattress every time you do a treatment can

work out very expensive.

 

ps whenever we hear of any new treatments that new people are doing

that we know are wrong we try are best to gently tell them that what

they are doing may need some changing.

 

fergy

 

divinesahajayoga/message/979

 

 

Dear believers of the Resurrection and Last Judgment,

 

i read Violet's post about the Vancouver ashram and, after comparing

it with the sad emails i have received from those staying/visiting

it, i am truly appalled and deeply saddenned by their firsthand

experiences at SY ashrams, the creme de la creme showpieces of SY

spirituality that is suppossed to attract seekers worldwide.

 

i quote from an email a few days ago from Vancouver:

 

" Finally i wanted to say that my friend is moving out of the ashram,

which i can say i am happy to hear. He spilled his guts to me this

past week when we hung out on all the nonsence that has been going

on since he moved in, all the pettiness and other extreme negativity

he has been experincing from other yogis since he moved in. He has

said its seem likes it becoming a church or something . Not only

that but he said that another yoginis mother(who also does not come

to the collective very often) said the same thing. So its very

apparent to him now SY is not what it appears on the surface and

that it is becoming like a church with blind followers; hence he

feels he is losing himself in the collective...his individual self

(for lack of a better term)and his ability to discover the spirit on

his own in his own way, making mistakes, without people questioning

him, or scolding him etc.

 

He asked me to extent his gratitude to you for the email you wrote me

(which i read to him) about not being scared to leave the collective

and that there is nothing wrong with being on your own etc. He asked

me to photo copy it and give it to him as he needs to have that

close. SO again, he says thank you so much.

 

I mean shoot, people were telling him that if he moves out and/or

leave the collective and goes it alone or doesnt come to meetings or

take part that he will suffer from diseases (not just him but

anyone) and have a rough time of it as he will not have the power or

protection of the vibration within the ashram. Can you believe that?

 

He also said that he realized that everyone has an opinion on this

and that, or and idea or a spice to throw on a treatment or teaching

of Shri Mataji, that he just listens only to what Mother has said

and to no one else, as everyone else is messing with the purity of

her teaching, either by misunderstanding or by " this person, said

that this is so because ......)etc. I mean people telling him

spiders are bhoots and all this stupid stuff it really blows my

mind. I found it hard to believe it was really as bad as jagbir said

it was, and at time even thought he was being a lil harsh on people,

but i see now that it is very true what he has been saying 100% and

that it is such a sad, sad thing.

 

We also were talking about in the video (Supreme source of love) how

mother said " dedicate yourself to me, not to Sahaja Yoga...as it is

only one of her aspects " and began to see that maybe she was giving

us this warning knowing full well SY the organization would fall

completely and that the only way to make it through the storm of

lies, and twisted truths and surface meanings of her teaching was to

dedicate yourself to her only and her words only. We also began to

see that maybe what she was saying was that she was only one we

could and only one we should trust, as everything else will become

great deciet. Its strange but i wouldnt put it past her, as she has

said many time that she knows everything though she may not show it. "

(end)

 

i was just telling my wife yesterday the sad state of affairs at our

collectives that cause most newcomers to flee. Now i am determined

never to ever go back to any SY collective even if they start

announcing the Divine Message. i assure all that you will never grow

much by following the SYSSR.

 

It is indeed difficult to gauge the immense loss of souls over the

decades that have left due to the Madness - the ceaseless chatter of

catches, cures and bhoots plaguing our collectives that borders on

insanity. This 'insanity' may suit the old-timers fine but the vast

majority of modern-day seekers just do not want to become spiritual

cripples and retards like them. Just like me, they too cannot take

the Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion indoctrination and rituals.

 

Again i assure all that you will hardly grow in the subtle system

collectives. Your best chance of self-realization and salvation lies

in your fleeing those who are so diseased by bhoots and what not

that they need to spend the rest of their lives just trying to heal.

All you need is answer this - why are outsiders like us free from

all the catches and negativity that ails the majority of SYs? Why

are individuals like us not suffering from the lies spun by so-

called self-realized souls who claim that anyone who " moves out

and/or leave the collective and goes it alone or doesnt come to

meetings or take part that he will suffer from diseases (not just

him but anyone) and have a rough time of it as he will not have the

power or protection of the vibration within the ashram. " ? Why is the

love and affection and loyalty of SYs as fleeting as morning dew?

 

It is so, so sad to watch indoctrinated SYs destroy Shri Mataji's

Vision and Divine Message. The most frightening is that they are not

even aware that they are participating in a collective destruction,

that their obsession with bhoots and catches and cures is a

cancerous negativity that is now in its advanced stage. i invite all

to witness the death throes when Shri Mataji attains Mahasamadhi.

This is just the beginning of the end of all collectives, WCASY and

their SYSSR. It is way too late to cure a collective disease that

went unchecked for decades. The prognosis is irreversible impending

death due to the lies, deceit and hypocrisy of an organization.

 

So to those now outside the organization - stand resolutely with

firm conviction and faith in Her Divine Message, and announce that

Truth at all times. That is all that will survive Her Mahasamadhi

and thrive till the End. You are already bearing witness to Her

destruction of all that is against the Truth. Never be fooled by

their hype or Will certificates.

 

Jai Shri Ganapathi,

 

 

jagbir