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Dear Jagbir and All,

 

It seems to me from what has been revealed by a number of yogis on this forum,

that many Sahaj 'leaders' are very adamant in getting everyone to obey them, but

they themselves do not obey Shri Mataji's wishes.

 

Mahajan has used his power to inflict a lot of hurt and pain on innocent

children and their parents. A true yogi will never behave in such a manner.

 

violet

 

 

-- In , " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org wrote:

>

> , " my2pai " <my2pai@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sohniya and everybody,

> >

> > I can empathize with you concerning your problems with the

> > leadership in your Sahaj center. It is a very common problem

> > indeed in the ascent of Sahaja Yogis - what with the internal

> > obstacles they have to overcome and then they have more headaches

> > in the form of the local Sahaj mafia hoods.

> >

> > More often than not, even the wives and children of the leaders

> > can get into the act. In the mid nineties, on the India Tour, some

> > Sahaja Yogis might have met a little girl, probably aged about

> > eleven, who used to get everything her way with a " Do you know

> > that my father is YM? " Truth to tell, even apparently senior SYs

> > were checkmated and laid low with the do-you-know-who-my-father-is

> > gambit of this pesky kid.

> >

> > Shri Mataji has been aware of this problem among the leaders even

> > from the earliest days. I append below an excerpt from a Puja

> > speech where She speaks about the problem: " If we appoint somebody

> > as a leader, the leader may start thinking that he's really the

> > leader. And then it becomes really a problem for him because he

> > starts losing everything that is leadership. But the worst is,

> > their wives start thinking they're the leaders; and sometimes the

> > children also think that way and I won't be surprised even if

> > their dogs and pets behave that way. "

> >

> > Yes, even their dogs start behaving as if they have become the

> > leaders. Then perhaps we can conclude that such Sahaj leaders have

> > really and deservedly gone to the dogs.

> >

> > Chandra

> >

>

> And YM is that infamous ex-world leader Yogi Mahajan who ruled like

> a despot on the land the International Sahaja Yoga school was built.

> The corrupting power of being both landlord and director of the

> school is known to the few like Kash who crossed his path. Yogi

> Mahajan was a scheming dictator and propaganda minister the likes of

> which i hope never to come across. His word (and web of lies and

> deceit) uttered on his estate in Dharamsala, India was law unto all

> mortals under his jurisdiction, even prevailing over that of Shri

> Mataji thousands of miles away in Cabella, Italy.

>

> Thus when Shri Mataji overruled his decision to expel my son as Yogi

> Mahajan believed Kash was demonic - since YM believed only Satan

> could empower this child to daily meet Her within his Sahasrara at

> will - Yogi Mahajan schemed with his crony Mrs. Chitnavis, the

> headmistress appointed by his royal decree, to rid his estate of

> such satanic souls. Their plot more than fits the required Bollywood

> script mix of abusive, corrupt and nonsensical leaders who are evil

> incarnate in human bodies.

>

> To cut a long story short, after Shri Mataji refused to agree to

> YM's recommendations that my children be removed from Dharamsala,

> Kash was suddenly accused of committing the following crimes in

> quick succession:

>

> 1) that he was a gangster and leader of the school gang (after a few

> of his friends, inspired by the movie, got together and formed the

> Dead Poets Society);

>

> 2) was showing porn to grade 6 girls (but no victim, witness or

> smut was produced as evidence);

>

> 3) was possessed by demons (and had to spend one month in solitary

> confinement to rid him of his demonic ability to meet and converse

> with the Adi Shakti and other messengers of God Almighty);

>

> 4) a silhouette was judged by the bespectacled principle Mrs.

> Chitnavis as evidence he was lurking at night around the girls'

> dormitories (even though anyone with poor vision would find it next

> to impossible to recognize any shadow from i) a few hundred yards on

> ii) a moonless night at iii) an impossible angle from her office);

>

> There are other minor charges - like snacking after meals, talking

> with girls (while playing), coming late for havan (by a few

> minutes) - that made Ted Bundy turn green with envy and raging-red

> jealous of Kash's rap sheet. Kash's brown skin was also a

> disadvantage. According to Mrs. Chitnavis, his Indian genes should

> always behave better than those scheduled class Caucasians who were

> innocent by reason of pardesi color and spirituality-deficient

> births for committing the same 'crimes'. (As i have said before, all

> of us have had too much of Sahaj love and too much of it can kill.)

>

> So with all these new charges Shri Mataji was overruled despite Her

> explicitly confirming that under no circumstance were any of them to

> be sent back. Despite a second stay confirmation from Shri Mataji

> both brothers were exiled from the despot's kingdom. To maximize

> insult to injury both brothers had to spend the last few days in a

> run-down Dharamsala hotel, before being unceremoniously dumped in

> New Delhi.

>

> As these events in Dharamsala were unfolding and Kash kept in

> isolation, Shri Mataji was on Her way to North America. i prepared a

> letter before proceeding to Toronto on September 18, 1997, with the

> intention of delivering it to Her.

>

> The next day i was warned by the Canadian leader Jay Chudasama at

> the Toronto ashram that i was in danger of being thrown out of

> Sahaja Yoga if i persisted in accusing the school board of

> wrongdoing. i replied that i was prepared to leave Sahaja Yoga, but

> under no circumstances will i withdraw my letter.

>

> It was in this state of mind that i walked into Shri Mataji's hotel

> suite in Toronto on September 19, 1996, at about 4:15 p.m. and

> prostrated completely (Ashtanga Namaskar) at Her Lotus Feet. Shri

> Mataji Nirmala Devi had summoned me (without even opening the letter

> which i had handed Her at Toronto's Pearson Airport) to discuss

> about my children at Her school in Dharamsala, India. SY Jay

> Chudasama and Dr. Mishra were also present.

>

> Shri Mahamaya asked me the most mundane of questions: " Are you a

> Sikh? " . . . " When did you join Sahaja Yoga? " . . . " What were you

> doing all the while? " . . . " Are you alright with your wife? " There

> was not a single query on Kash's spiritual journeys or any related

> topic.

>

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi then requested Kash and his younger brother

> be brought back to Canada. There was somehow not even the slightest

> ripple of reaction from me. For some reason, in my thoughtless

> state, the most ridiculous of charges sounded like music to my ears.

> Shri Mataji had done Her best to keep Kash in Dharamsala (twice for

> the matter), but the despot Yogi Mahajan was determined and

> overturned even Her final decision. She had to defer to the landlord

> of Her school.

>

> When Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi had finished talking about the school

> board charges the issue of publishing this book was again raised —

> for the third time. i had accepted all allegations with complete

> calmness and was prepared for a negative answer. This would be the

> best opportunity for the Great Divine Mother to stop its

> publication. Kash, the very child to whom Shri Maha Avatar Shri

> Nirmala Devi had revealed Her Ultimate Reality, was facing serious

> charges; accusations that he and his brother vehemently denied.

> (Their mother had already crumbled under the onslaught of recent

> events. It was she who reminded me to make sure that Shri Mataji's

> permission to publish Her book be again obtained. In her mind these

> revelations were still for the family only, and the Great Primordial

> Mother might terminate publication of this book — and finally give

> her family some peace of mind from the relentless onslaught of

> negativity.) As far as i was concerned this would be the best reason

> and opportunity for Shri Mataji to cease work on the book based on a

> child whom world leader Yogi Mahajan claimed to be a gangster and

> demon-possessed porn-peddler.

>

> Shri Mataji told those present that permission had already been

> granted previously, and there was no need to ask again.

>

> i spontaneously raised my folded hands high above my head in

> Namaskar and exclaimed, " Jai Shri Mataji! " (Victory to the Mother!)

> The Great Divine Mother ended the meeting with Her blessings of

> Anant Ashirvad (Everlasting Blessings) in my endeavor.

>

> After that i waited for years before Shri Mataji expelled Yogi

> Mahajan. As far as my family is concerned this is sweet justice

> meted upon the most powerful, abusive, corrupt and nonsensical of SY

> leaders trying to destory Her Truth.

>

> Allan Wherry and his WCASY pals and Will-wannabee cronies like John

> Noyce, Ed Suagstad, Raj and others have since taken over where Yogi

> Mahajan left. So all of you just stay on the battlefield and stand

> your ground with all your murmurings, gossips, accusations, lies and

> slanderings against my children and me. Allan Wherry, i will see how

> many of your kind are left standing when the dust finally settles.

>

> Jai Shri Ganapathi,

>

>

> jagbir

>

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, " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org wrote:

>

> Allan Wherry and his WCASY pals and Will-wannabee cronies like John

> Noyce, Ed Suagstad, Raj and others have since taken over where Yogi

> Mahajan left. So all of you just stay on the battlefield and stand

> your ground with all your murmurings, gossips, accusations, lies

> and slanderings against my children and me. Allan Wherry, i will

> see how many of your kind are left standing when the dust finally

> settles.

>

> Jai Shri Ganapathi,

>

>

> jagbir

>

 

i found this interesting comment by John Noyce made February 2003.

At that time there was no WCASY or Will-hijackers:

 

" I'm not entirely sure why an SY group is spending so much time on

the Baha'is, but certainly the increasingly authoritarian nature of

the Baha'i religion does provide an example of what might go wrong in

Sahaja Yoga in future centuries if the yogis were not to use

vibrational awareness to validate the decisions of their leaders. "

 

John

Thu Feb 27, 2003 10:40 am

 

/message/220

 

 

Since then there has been no protest from John against WCASY for

having the temerity to claim they re/present the Will of the Shakti.

Neither was there any need " to use vibrational awareness to validate

the decisions of their leaders. " When WCASY dangles the carrot of

future membership in their elite club who cares what might go wrong

in Sahaja Yoga in future centuries. It took John Noyce hardly a year

or two to be bribed and corrupted by the the increasingly

authoritarian nature of WCASY, Inquisytion and Propaganda Ministry.

i wonder what made him think that centuries are required. After

all, he is a loyal WCASY watchdog of this forum who barks back

reports to his master Allan Wherry. (When are you guys going to hand

over my dossier to Shri Mataji or Sir CP?)

 

As i have said before, the loyalty of SYs to a cause, friend or

truth is as fleeting as morning dew. They are now reaping all they

have sowed in the past, and the barren fields of dishonesty now only

yield a meagre bitter harvest ...... and the Mahasamadhi drought is

yet to come. So SYs, get ready to brace the looming spiritual famine.

 

jagbir

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