Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Dear All, After a long and lazy summer spent watching the World Cup, working the backyard, gardening, traveling and visiting friends/relatives it is back to work. This was a great summer vacation for me in years, probably the best since i came to Canada. Of the pile of pending projects, i picked the http://tao-mother.org site dedicated to Tao, the Great Mother, the Adi Shakti within all. i believe the Chinese, specifically the Taoists, are closest to comprehending Brahman - the Tao or Great Mother. Key concepts: the Tao, introduced in the Tao Te Ching is as follows: " The Tao that can be expressed is not the eternal Tao; the name that can be defined is not the unchanging name...There is a thing inherent and natural, which existed before heaven and earth. Motionless and fathomless, it stands alone and never changes; it pervades everywhere and never becomes exhausted; it may be regarded as the Mother of the Universe. I do not know its name. If I am forced to give it a name, I call it Tao, and I name it supreme...Man follows the laws of earth; earth follows the laws of heaven; heaven follows the laws of the Tao; and Tao follows the laws of its intrinsic nature. " What is this Tao? The concept transcends the powers of reason and must be grasped intuitively, it is beyond words, beyond all differences and distinction, it is the unchanging, permanent reality of constant change, it is the ground of being and nonbeing, it is akin to the Hindu concept of the Brahman. " As far as i am concerned it is the Adi Shakti/Brahman within, not Her incarnation Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, who is Tao or Great Mother. i know this fact will be regarded as heretical by many SYs. However, i am sure of my conviction based on years of observation and experience. Moreover, Shri Mataji has claimed that She resides in our Sahasraras and that is absolutely true. Yet 99% of SYs continue to fixate their senses outwards towards the physical incarnation, not the eternal Adi Shakti within. They feel empty and lost without Her image, as if She does not exist any longer. Thus with that mindset it has become impossible for them to advance Her to the world in any meaningful way. That leaves outsiders like us the freedom to forge ahead unfettered, instead of being shackled by the standard requirement that SY head honchos be consulted and their permission obtained to perform any work. For instance, if the head honcho does not believe Shri Mataji to be the incarnation of Tao the Great Mother there is no way you can proceed. And if the temperature of his vibrations are not cool enough you can end up labeled " left-sided " , " bhootish " or " possessed " , to name just a few choice categories. Getting a second opinion is taboo as any contradiction will surely challenge their legitimacy in the first place. (That is why i do not use this choice weapon of the Inquisytion.) But what rank and file SYs think does not matter at all. There are billions or almost 99.99% of the world, who have never heard of Shri Mataji or Sahaja Yoga. Years ago Shri Mataji lamented: " You must understand that you have come in the field of very high consciousness where you are in contact with the Divine. Now here if you behave like ordinary people who have no divinity within them, how long will you continue like this? So this is very important that you should try to meditate and evolve yourselves and become really very good Sahaja Yogis. " In some places we are very lucky, but in some countries, the people are just deaf and dumb. They can't understand Sahaja Yoga. For My program they do come, and afterwards they just disappear. Sahaja Yogis are responsible for this. The way they go about, the way they want to do Sahaj work, is not Sahaj. Must be something definitely wrong with the whole thing and that's why it's not working out the same way as it is working out in many places. " (end) So are we outsiders now working out Sahaja Yoga the way it should have been from the beginning? ............ No, according to our head honchos. You MUST follow the official subtle system approach even though there is something definitely wrong with the whole thing – less that 0.01 of humanity has been exposed to Sahaja Yoga and Shri Mataji. So it must be true that " Sahaja Yogis are responsible for this. The way they go about, the way they want to do Sahaj work, is not Sahaj. " i heard Kyyan that you wanted to be honest and transparent to the public about Sahaja Yoga but were advised not to. Is is true that Vancouver SYs do not want to be truthful despite the dire straits of their collective/ashram? So do you too agree that " Sahaja Yogis are responsible for this. The way they go about, the way they want to do Sahaj work, is not Sahaj " i.e., they are responsible and can only blame themselves for sad state of SY affairs today? What do you think the new www.tao-mother.org site? Your comments, and those of others, will be appreciated. regards to all, jagbir Note: Dear Violet, i will work om www.holyspirit-shekinah.org next. Sorry for the long delay but i really needed the summer break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Dear Jagbir (and All), The www.tao-mother.org site looks great, and it will only get better with more time, which you always say... " we have " . All the extra material for the Holy Spirit/Shekinah has been posted on this forum (as you already know) and is given in a 'Christian understanding', so that those from that tradition (and others too) can understand and appreciate Shri Mataji's interactions with Her Children a bit better. Not only will it help those from the Christian tradition to understand other spiritual traditions better (from their own perspective), but it will also give them a greater appreciation for the " depths " of their " own " spiritual tradition, as given by Jesus and clarified by Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi... " the Christian Comforter " promised by Jesus. Welcome back from your holidays. i am pleased that you had a great summer vacation. warmest regards, violet , " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org wrote: > > Dear All, > > After a long and lazy summer spent watching the World Cup, working > the backyard, gardening, traveling and visiting friends/relatives it > is back to work. This was a great summer vacation for me in years, > probably the best since i came to Canada. > > Of the pile of pending projects, i picked the http://tao-mother.org > site dedicated to Tao, the Great Mother, the Adi Shakti within all. > i believe the Chinese, specifically the Taoists, are closest to > comprehending Brahman - the Tao or Great Mother. > > Key concepts: the Tao, introduced in the Tao Te Ching is as follows: > > " The Tao that can be expressed is not the eternal Tao; the name that > can be defined is not the unchanging name...There is a thing > inherent and natural, which existed before heaven and earth. > Motionless and fathomless, it stands alone and never changes; it > pervades everywhere and never becomes exhausted; it may be regarded > as the Mother of the Universe. I do not know its name. If I am > forced to give it a name, I call it Tao, and I name it supreme...Man > follows the laws of earth; earth follows the laws of heaven; heaven > follows the laws of the Tao; and Tao follows the laws of its > intrinsic nature. " > > What is this Tao? The concept transcends the powers of reason and > must be grasped intuitively, it is beyond words, beyond all > differences and distinction, it is the unchanging, permanent reality > of constant change, it is the ground of being and nonbeing, it is > akin to the Hindu concept of the Brahman. " > > > As far as i am concerned it is the Adi Shakti/Brahman within, not > Her incarnation Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, who is Tao or Great > Mother. i know this fact will be regarded as heretical by many SYs. > However, i am sure of my conviction based on years of observation > and experience. Moreover, Shri Mataji has claimed that She resides > in our Sahasraras and that is absolutely true. Yet 99% of SYs > continue to fixate their senses outwards towards the physical > incarnation, not the eternal Adi Shakti within. They feel empty and > lost without Her image, as if She does not exist any longer. Thus > with that mindset it has become impossible for them to advance Her > to the world in any meaningful way. > > That leaves outsiders like us the freedom to forge ahead unfettered, > instead of being shackled by the standard requirement that SY head > honchos be consulted and their permission obtained to perform any > work. For instance, if the head honcho does not believe Shri Mataji > to be the incarnation of Tao the Great Mother there is no way you > can proceed. And if the temperature of his vibrations are not cool > enough you can end up labeled " left-sided " , " bhootish " > or " possessed " , to name just a few choice categories. Getting a > second opinion is taboo as any contradiction will surely challenge > their legitimacy in the first place. (That is why i do not use this > choice weapon of the Inquisytion.) > > But what rank and file SYs think does not matter at all. There are > billions or almost 99.99% of the world, who have never heard of > Shri Mataji or Sahaja Yoga. Years ago Shri Mataji lamented: > > " You must understand that you have come in the field of very high > consciousness where you are in contact with the Divine. Now here if > you behave like ordinary people who have no divinity within them, > how long will you continue like this? So this is very important that > you should try to meditate and evolve yourselves and become really > very good Sahaja Yogis. " > > In some places we are very lucky, but in some countries, the people > are just deaf and dumb. They can't understand Sahaja Yoga. For My > program they do come, and afterwards they just disappear. Sahaja > Yogis are responsible for this. The way they go about, the way they > want to do Sahaj work, is not Sahaj. Must be something definitely > wrong with the whole thing and that's why it's not working out the > same way as it is working out in many places. " (end) > > So are we outsiders now working out Sahaja Yoga the way it should > have been from the beginning? ............ No, according to our > head honchos. You MUST follow the official subtle system approach > even though there is something definitely wrong with the whole > thing – less that 0.01 of humanity has been exposed to Sahaja Yoga > and Shri Mataji. So it must be true that " Sahaja Yogis are > responsible for this. The way they go about, the way they want to do > Sahaj work, is not Sahaj. " > > i heard Kyyan that you wanted to be honest and transparent to the > > public about Sahaja Yoga but were advised not to. Is is true that > Vancouver SYs do not want to be truthful despite the dire straits of > their collective/ashram? So do you too agree that " Sahaja Yogis are > responsible for this. The way they go about, the way they want to do > Sahaj work, is not Sahaj " i.e., they are responsible and can only > blame themselves for sad state of SY affairs today? What do you > think the new www.tao-mother.org site? Your comments, and those of > others, will be appreciated. > > regards to all, > > > jagbir > > > Note: Dear Violet, i will work om www.holyspirit-shekinah.org next. > Sorry for the long delay but i really needed the summer break. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2006 Report Share Posted August 4, 2006 , " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org wrote: > > " What is this Tao? The concept transcends the powers of reason and > must be grasped intuitively, it is beyond words, beyond all > differences and distinction, it is the unchanging, permanent > reality of constant change, it is the ground of being and > nonbeing, it is akin to the Hindu concept of the Brahman. " > > > As far as i am concerned it is the Adi Shakti/Brahman within, not > Her incarnation Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, who is Tao or Great > Mother. i know this fact will be regarded as heretical by many SYs. > However, i am sure of my conviction based on years of observation > and experience. Moreover, Shri Mataji has claimed that She resides > in our Sahasraras and that is absolutely true. Yet 99% of SYs > continue to fixate their senses outwards towards the physical > incarnation, not the eternal Adi Shakti within. They feel empty and > lost without Her image, as if She does not exist any longer. Thus > with that mindset it has become impossible for them to advance Her > to the world in any meaningful way. > " The tao that can be described is not the eternal Tao. The name that can be spoken is not the eternal Name. The nameless is the boundary of Heaven and Earth. The named is the Mother of Creation. Freed from desire, you can see the hidden mystery. By having desire, you can only see what is visibly real. Yet mystery and reality emerge from the same source. " Lao tze, Tao Te Ching 1 (Translated by J.H. McDonald) " I know who are progressing in dedication and devotion. I've seen people improving so much. You need not face Me. You need not see Me. In person I need not be there. It's all in the All-Pervading Power. That is all My life, My style, which knows each and everything about you . . . My achievement is the complete manifestation of your Divine Powers. " Shri Mataji Devi Complete Dedication The Only Way, U.K. — July 31, 1982 " Whether I meet you or not makes no difference, but I am permeating through all of you. " Shri Mataji Devi “The Sushumna is the central channel for our evolution. It is through this channel that we become Collectively Conscious and all the disparate factors of our being are integrated in one Whole. It makes the connection between our conscious mind and the auto of the autonomous system, the Spirit, which is a reflection of GOD. Sushumna is the way of Dharma, the straight and narrow path by which we pass through the Gate of the Agnya Chakra to enter into the Kingdom of God in the Sahasrara.” Shri Mataji Devi “A careful perusal of the New Testament sections will show that although most of them may conveniently be classified as first degree, i.e., purely religious matter, there is also a thin vein of mysticism of the second degree running right through them. For instance, the sentence “The kingdom of heaven is within you,” has absolutely no connection whatsoever with official religion and entirely refers to the experiences of yogis and mystics. The explanation why such a mixture of concepts exists, is twofold. Firstly, the compilation of these records in a single volume did not occur until a few hundred years after Jesus is believed to have passed away. The obscure Council of Nicea found numerous gospels extant when it sat to make the compilation, consisting of a mixed collection of religious books intended for the masses and mystical ones intended for the elect few. The immense number of bishops who constituted this council had quite a fight over the nature of Christ, they naturally made their selections and rejections according to their personal temperaments and outlook. Hence the somewhat uneven selection of authentic gospels and unjustifiable rejection of certain apocrypha. Secondly, Jesus was in revolt against the stiff orthodoxy of the Jewish priests most of whom were not only ignorant of the higher degree themselves but deliberately persecuted those who were mystically inclined. His indignation expressed itself in the words, “Woe unto you! Ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering ye prevented.” It is evident that his sympathy with the ignorant helpless masses was so large and overwhelming that he deliberately opened the doors of higher mystical teaching to a little extent for them, although only his full associates were fully initiated. Buddha was undoubtedly actuated by precisely the same feelings and opened the same doors even wider than did Jesus.” Paul Brunton, Ph.D., The Hidden Teaching Beyond Yoga, E. P. Dutton & Co., Inc., 1966, p. 79-80. “Chuang-tzu’s descriptions of the indescribable Tao, as well as those who have attained union with the Tao, are invariable poetic. The perfect man has identified his life rhythm so completely with the rhythm of the forces of nature that he has become indistinguishable from them and shares their immortality and infinity, which is above the cycle of ordinary life and death. He is “pure spirit . . .” “A man like this rides the clouds as his carriages and the sun and moon as his steeds.” . . These wonderings are journeys within oneself; they are roamings through the Infinite in ecstasy. Transcending the ordinary distinction of things and one with the Tao, “the Perfect Man has no self, the Holy Man has no merit, the Sage has no fame.” He lives inconspicuously among men, and whatever applies to the Tao applies to him.” The New Encyclopaedia Britannica (1992.) “To find God within oneself it would seem necessary at least to acknowledge his existence. The knotty question of whether God exists, and if so, where, points up a basic difference between Eastern and Western systems of consciousness. The Eastern search for God is directed within the individual; the Western search, without. The Eastern sage believes God is within and integral to human existence. The consciousness of Western religion says God is separate from man, superior to him, and that the deity’s existence must be accepted on faith.” Shirley Maclaine, Going Within: A Guide for Inner Transformation, Bantam Books, 1989, p. 81. " Jesus The Old Testament symbol becomes significant in Christianity when Christ suggests Kundalini awakening, not just for the tribe of Israel but as the true destiny of all Christians: “And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even as the son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have eternal life” He says unequivocally in the Gnostic Gospel of Thomas and elsewhere, that ‘The Holy Spirit is My Mother’. ‘The Kingdom of God is within you’ (Luke 17:21). Tao In the Tao Te Ching the primordial power is described as that of a mother. Lao Tze described Kundalini as the “spirit of the valley” (in which flows the Nadi of Sushumna). The spirit of the valley never dies. The spiritual instrument within us can be described as a microcosm (miniature form of creation) which links us with the Divine. The ancient esoteric text “Scripture of the Golden Flower” also spoke of the effects of the awakened kundalini energy. Buddhist The Lord Buddha spoke of the “middle path” to achieve nirvana. He was actually describing the central channel (sushumna) through which the Kundalini ascends. Later Buddhist masters considered that the existence of the path of liberation within a human being was the greatest secret. They transmitted it to only a few deserving disciples. Other Cultures One also finds symbols of Kundalini in many different cultural legacies, such as Mercury’s serpent which is an alchemical symbol for the process of psychic metamorphosis. The Gnostics understood the serpent to represent the spinal cord. In ancient Greek and later, Roman mythology, we find Asclepius, the god of healing. He is seen holding a staff which is entwined with a serpent (or sometimes two). Why did the Greeks relate this symbol to healing? The staff represents the central support of the human body or spinal cord (physical location of the sushumna. In Rome Aescaluius came to be represent mercury who usually held a healing staff called the Caduceus. The one or two coiled snakes or serpents entwined around the staff, represent the kundalini which rises along the central subtle channel in a spiral double helical movement. " Knowledge of Reality — Universal Culture and Spirituality, http://www.sol.com.au/kor/index.htm) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2006 Report Share Posted August 4, 2006 Dear Jagbir, I i will post my remakrs/comments on the post below sometime later today or tomorrow(saturday) as i have no access to a computer at work for the amount of time it would take for a thoughtful responce. Thanks for understanding. Check the forum soon. :-) Kyyan , " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org wrote: > > Dear All, > > After a long and lazy summer spent watching the World Cup, working > the backyard, gardening, traveling and visiting friends/relatives it > is back to work. This was a great summer vacation for me in years, > probably the best since i came to Canada. > > Of the pile of pending projects, i picked the http://tao-mother.org > site dedicated to Tao, the Great Mother, the Adi Shakti within all. > i believe the Chinese, specifically the Taoists, are closest to > comprehending Brahman - the Tao or Great Mother. > > Key concepts: the Tao, introduced in the Tao Te Ching is as follows: > > " The Tao that can be expressed is not the eternal Tao; the name that > can be defined is not the unchanging name...There is a thing > inherent and natural, which existed before heaven and earth. > Motionless and fathomless, it stands alone and never changes; it > pervades everywhere and never becomes exhausted; it may be regarded > as the Mother of the Universe. I do not know its name. If I am > forced to give it a name, I call it Tao, and I name it supreme...Man > follows the laws of earth; earth follows the laws of heaven; heaven > follows the laws of the Tao; and Tao follows the laws of its > intrinsic nature. " > > What is this Tao? The concept transcends the powers of reason and > must be grasped intuitively, it is beyond words, beyond all > differences and distinction, it is the unchanging, permanent reality > of constant change, it is the ground of being and nonbeing, it is > akin to the Hindu concept of the Brahman. " > > > As far as i am concerned it is the Adi Shakti/Brahman within, not > Her incarnation Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, who is Tao or Great > Mother. i know this fact will be regarded as heretical by many SYs. > However, i am sure of my conviction based on years of observation > and experience. Moreover, Shri Mataji has claimed that She resides > in our Sahasraras and that is absolutely true. Yet 99% of SYs > continue to fixate their senses outwards towards the physical > incarnation, not the eternal Adi Shakti within. They feel empty and > lost without Her image, as if She does not exist any longer. Thus > with that mindset it has become impossible for them to advance Her > to the world in any meaningful way. > > That leaves outsiders like us the freedom to forge ahead unfettered, > instead of being shackled by the standard requirement that SY head > honchos be consulted and their permission obtained to perform any > work. For instance, if the head honcho does not believe Shri Mataji > to be the incarnation of Tao the Great Mother there is no way you > can proceed. And if the temperature of his vibrations are not cool > enough you can end up labeled " left-sided " , " bhootish " > or " possessed " , to name just a few choice categories. Getting a > second opinion is taboo as any contradiction will surely challenge > their legitimacy in the first place. (That is why i do not use this > choice weapon of the Inquisytion.) > > But what rank and file SYs think does not matter at all. There are > billions or almost 99.99% of the world, who have never heard of > Shri Mataji or Sahaja Yoga. Years ago Shri Mataji lamented: > > " You must understand that you have come in the field of very high > consciousness where you are in contact with the Divine. Now here if > you behave like ordinary people who have no divinity within them, > how long will you continue like this? So this is very important that > you should try to meditate and evolve yourselves and become really > very good Sahaja Yogis. " > > In some places we are very lucky, but in some countries, the people > are just deaf and dumb. They can't understand Sahaja Yoga. For My > program they do come, and afterwards they just disappear. Sahaja > Yogis are responsible for this. The way they go about, the way they > want to do Sahaj work, is not Sahaj. Must be something definitely > wrong with the whole thing and that's why it's not working out the > same way as it is working out in many places. " (end) > > So are we outsiders now working out Sahaja Yoga the way it should > have been from the beginning? ............ No, according to our > head honchos. You MUST follow the official subtle system approach > even though there is something definitely wrong with the whole > thing – less that 0.01 of humanity has been exposed to Sahaja Yoga > and Shri Mataji. So it must be true that " Sahaja Yogis are > responsible for this. The way they go about, the way they want to do > Sahaj work, is not Sahaj. " > > i heard Kyyan that you wanted to be honest and transparent to the > > public about Sahaja Yoga but were advised not to. Is is true that > Vancouver SYs do not want to be truthful despite the dire straits of > their collective/ashram? So do you too agree that " Sahaja Yogis are > responsible for this. The way they go about, the way they want to do > Sahaj work, is not Sahaj " i.e., they are responsible and can only > blame themselves for sad state of SY affairs today? What do you > think the new www.tao-mother.org site? Your comments, and those of > others, will be appreciated. > > regards to all, > > > jagbir > > > Note: Dear Violet, i will work om www.holyspirit-shekinah.org next. > Sorry for the long delay but i really needed the summer break. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2006 Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 Dear Jagbir and all I apologize for the extra late response, but like I said, computers are not readily available until the end of September when I purchase my own. This was semi spell checked so i hope its not too terrible a read. Feel free to correct it before you approve it if need be. Anyhow, Your first quote is correct...and I quote: > " Is it true that Vancouver SYs do not want to be truthful despite > the dire straits of Their collective/ashram? " This is quite true. I have of course not dealt with everyone in the ashram on a one on one basis with regards to these things, but based on the people I have spoken to specifically about this and by seeing many a times how things were run in terms of the SY programs at local libraries and the 18 week course we just finished, I think it is safe to say that they do not want to be truthful upfront to newcomers from day one. There have even been instances were I have seen people hold their tongue in mid sentence when teaching newcomers, as to not say something that may scare them away or confuse them so to speak. I mean they start describing it or saying the word, and then change it in order to find a more " use friendly " term or way of teaching the " deeper " aspects of SY without freaking anyone out. And of course, like I said, I mentioned telling the truth upfront and about this website many time to SY through email and in person and no one agreed with me. They either ducked the suggestion and said " well I think each person spreads SY in their own way " or " I don't want to get into it or be a part of any struggle or negativity that this website may be talking about or that may ensue from telling the truth " and things like that. Also I am very much reminded or was reminded that we are only suppose to give realization and let mother do the rest, as well as thing like " Shri Mataji has said we should spread Sy the way we currently are and that we should not do it any ther way " . Things like that. Basically any thing they possibly can do to avoid facing what is going on in the WCASY and avoid having a look to see what they should be doing in comparison to what they have been taught they should be doing. I refuse to have any part of that untruth or spreading of it by not telling the truth, but I enjoy the company of many yogis from the ashram regardless, love them, and tell the truth on my own even if no one follows me. In regards to the Ashram, I honestly can say I don't think they are drawing the connection between their lack of truth spreading and the loss of their ashrams/collective Laxshmi tattwa.....oblivious I would say. Your second quote > " So do you too agree that " Sahaja Yogis are responsible for this. > The way they go about, the way they want to do Sahaj work, is not > Sahaj " i.e., they are responsible and can only blame themselves > for sad state of SY affairs today? " I would have to agree that the only reason there are not flocks of people rushing to Shri Matajis feet (I mean much more people then have been doing so in the past) and why there are not flocks of people calling and lining up outside of ashrams and at public programs, and why SY and Shri Mataji are very much only known by SY's, is because no one has had the guts to outright tell the world that Shri Mataji is the Holy spirit who has come as Christ promised to teach all he could not, comfort us, and give us out baptism of the spirit. Maybe Shri Mataji could not say it openly on TV over and over again, but She asked us after she said it herself a time or two to prove to the world that She is that, and that proving that was up to us. If that was done back in the 80's Sy would be a worldwide thing, Shri Mataji would be known by 100's of thousands of more people and the world would be a very different place. However that never happened, hence the dwindling numbers of Sys and the falling support beams of the organization, which are slowly crushing the oppression of the truth as they come to rest on the ground and on the Sys perpetuating that untruth below. I very much believe that it is up to those who know these truth and dare to inquire about this truth to spread the message now and maybe at some point in the organization, if its still standing at that time, will pick up its slack and everything will work out. Either way it will work out, but it seems that its up to the people from outside SY (less a few inside who have yet to find these things out who would be the first to up and declare it if they knew about it) now to do this job and it should be of great joy and excitement to see it work out that way. Its just too bad that everything Shri Mataji put in place to assist us in declaring her message, has to come crashing down, but then again, Mother knows all. As for the new site, I have only had a chance to skim through it but it look amazing. I have printed it out and will read it tonight. Ill let you know more of my thoughts about the new website then. Take care jagbir and all. Namaste Shri Adi Shakti. Kyyan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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