WCASY members actively engaged in obstructing the Comforter's Divine Message

[Guest guest]

, " Violet "

<violet.tubb wrote:

>

>

> So now i have come to the real reason for this email, and it is a

> message to John: -

>

> " John when I asked you over the telephone if you are on this forum

> to keep an eye on Sahaja Yogis, you laughed at me and denied it.

> Now... Kyyan has provided evidence and therefore proof that you

> have been doing that all along. You have done it to me too, John.

> How could you do this? Don't you know that you are torturing and

> persecuting your brother and sister Sahaja Yogis? i love

> your " real you... your Spirit " , but i do not like nor approve of

> your actions. i am asking you as a Sahaj Sister to please!... " in

> the Name of God Almighty " ... stop these wrong actions of yours.

> These actions are not good for you or anyone else. They achieve

> absolutely nothing at all, and only cause problems. It will

> definitely not be good for your spiritual ascent to continue in

> this manner (and i mean this most sincerely and send you my Sahaja

> love, and i know this love is not a particularly pleasant form of

> it... but i do care and i do hope that you will see that your

> actions are wrong, and change them. That would make me very happy.

> You can be a part of us here again, if you change your ways. We

> forgive you. You do have a beauty in your Spirit. Please strive

> for that, and forget everything else.)

>

> love and best wishes to all,

>

> violet

>

 

 

Dear Violet,

 

John Noyce, as a self-realized soul, lied through his teeth and is

now caught, not with his pants down, but butt naked. Kyyan received

emails confirming him monitoring the forum and below i give you

evidence of Alan Wherry, a World Council member, confirming the

same. It was John Noyce who sent him a report after he found that a

SY was having links to the www.adishakti.org site. Among other

things, they were offended that www.adishakti.org was given a better

pole position, an unfair advantage that smacked of treason.

 

What i find disturbing is that Viktor Bondar, suddenly finding

himself being requested to scratch Alan Wherry's back, went to great

lengths to convince the SY that i am a possessed false guru, or

something to that extent. This SY relented and removed the link.

 

So it goes to show that WCASY members are actively engaged in

preventing/discouraging SYs from visiting the www.adishakti.org

site. Alan Wherry and Viktor Bondar are just two council members who

have been, like John Noyce, caught butt naked trying to prevent SYs

from knowing about the Adi Shakti and Her Divine Message to humanity

based on a book which Shri Mataji repeatedly approved. And yet they

have the audacity and temerity to claim they have 'inherited' Her

Will, openly and blatantly contradicting all She willed in the past.

 

As i said before, two thousands years Jesus tried to get His message

through. When He failed due to the priestly class in charge of the

masses and opposed to His mystical, esoteric and supraconscious

teachings of the Kingdom of God within, Jesus promised to send the

Comforter (Paraclete) who will bring humans to reminder about all

the things that the Savior wanted to preach. It is obvious that it

meant a future divine human personality who will have to spend years

amongst humans to achieve that objective. It is also obvious that

irrefutable evidence must be openly presented confirming both

identity and authenticity of the Comforter. This has been done!

 

Let me quote in order to elaborate:

 

" The Paraclete, " the one who is to come, " is mentioned in the Bible

in the Gospel of John. The term is used in two ways: First, the

author of the book uses it in reference to Christ's ministry on

Earth (both before and after his death) and second, Christ himself

uses the term to describe a mysterious figure that will be sent to

the disciples after his death to " be with them always. " ...

 

So why all of the variations upon one word that attempts to describe

a person? There is no individual expression for spirit in the

languages of the Bible. The idea was used symbolically with words

that are interpreted to mean literally wind and breath. In fact the

English word spirit is simply an Anglicized version of the Latin

word spiritus for breath. None of the prophets of Israel before the

exile attribute their vocation to the action of the spirit or even

have much to say about the spirit at all. It wasn't until Ezekiel

and the climax of his prophecy during his vision of the valley of

dry bones over which he was commanded to invoke the life giving

breath, or wind, or spirit of God. Ezekiel's hope is so radically

visualized that it becomes a key premise in later biblical

prophesies. Realizing that the renewal of God's people could only

come from God, the prophets began to seek a broad outpouring of his

spirit. While Ezekiel doesn't mention an anticipated messianic king

the rendering of this figure in the prophecy of Isaiah discloses

that he is to be the everlasting bearer of the spirit.

 

This prophetic hope passed down through the ages was clearly claimed

by Jesus in his sermon at Nazareth. He is not only the everlasting

bearer of the Holy Spirit but also the one who will dispense the

gift of the Holy Spirit to others. The Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost is

the third member of the Christian trinity, along with God the Father

and God the Son. There is a clear interval between the epiphany of

Jesus and the general distribution of the Holy Spirit. John relates

early on in his gospel that the gift of the spirit could not be

bestowed before Jesus was glorified or in other words, not before he

had completed his work. John utilizes the Paraclete sayings to

stress that the departure of Jesus, after his resurrection, must

take place first no matter how much it saddens the disciples.

 

There's little doubt that the word was used well before the Bible

and Qur'an were written. Before the author John collected them into

his Gospel the five sayings about the Paraclete were in all

probability a separate set of ideas. In the New Testament John

applies it directly to Jesus himself 13 and implies a likeness

between the Paraclete and Jesus when he writes that the coming of

the Paraclete will be the same as the coming of Jesus himself. In

addition to the chronological relationships, there are other

significant distinctions. The instructions of the Paraclete will be

focused on Jesus and his teaching. The Paraclete will enlarge the

range of Jesus' teaching to the world, as well as, press forward the

disciple's understanding of " the truth " which is equaled with Jesus.

The presence of the Paraclete will be permanent, in contrast to that

of Jesus, which had to be withdrawn and lastly the existence of the

Paraclete will be invisible and inward. Christian theologians

surmise that John was personifying the Holy Spirit on a level that

the people of his times would understand. Some scholars also

interpret this passage as an allusion to the return of Jesus to the

disciples after the Resurrection.

 

No matter what the essence is of the Paraclete or its exact

etymological orthography, there still remains the legacy of truth

that Jesus left behind him as an unfinished religion to be completed

and perfected by what Isaiah and John described, as well as, Lou

whose life was a living model of a true Paraclete. "

 

Paraclete

http://everything2.com/index.pl?node=paraclete

 

Sources:

 

Paraclete. The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English:

www.bartleby.com/61/70/P0057000.html

 

Paraclete:

lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/ b-greek/1999-November/008316.html

 

The Holy Spirit in the Church - Scripture From Scratch:

www.americancatholic.org/Newsletters/SFS/an0504.asp

 

Metzger, Bruce M., and Coogan, Michael D. The Oxford Companion To

The Bible. Oxford University Press, New York, 1993.p.288.

 

 

i have given evidence below that WCASY members and their cronies

like John Noyce are now actively engaged in preventing the Divine

Message of the Comforter from reaching SYs, and spread to all

humanity. Two thousand years later the priestly class in charge of

SYs are opposed to the same mystical, esoteric and supraconscious

teachings of Jesus and the Kingdom of God within. It seems like déjà

vu all over again. This has been going on for years and now WCASY is

actively engaged. That is the reason i say a satanic negativity has

overpowered WCASY to prevent the unfinished teachings of the Savior

from reaching the common people, just as it happened two millennia

ago. So who are these council members and why are they repeating it?

 

It is extremely important to understand this:

 

" John relates early on in his gospel that the gift of the spirit

could not be bestowed before Jesus was glorified or in other words,

not before he had completed his work. John utilizes the Paraclete

sayings to stress that the departure of Jesus, after his

resurrection, must take place first no matter how much it saddens

the disciples. "

 

As the promised Paraclete, Shri Mataji has spent decades glorifying

Jesus, His Kingdom (Sahasrara) and message of the Last Judgment. The

gift of the spirit can now be bestowed since Jesus is glorified and

of far more significant, He has completed His work through the

Paraclete. That is why, without any exception or error of past

manifestations, the Spirit is ONLY NOW bestowed en masse on all who

are taking part in the Last Judgment. That is why ONLY NOW

participating humans are feeling the Wind of the (internal) Spirit,

the Wind of (internal) Resurrection.

 

Moreover, and this is extremely important to thoroughly understand,

the " presence of the Paraclete will be permanent, in contrast to

that of Jesus, which had to be withdrawn and lastly the existence of

the Paraclete will be invisible and inward. "

 

WCASY is trying to destroy those who bear, uphold and give evidence

of this Divine Message and inner manifestation of the Paraclete.

 

So it is your sacred duty to resist them with all your heart, mind

and soul. Always remember that Shri Mataji is the Comforter sent by

Jesus in the name of the Father (God Almighty). Without question

this is the Trinity that must be obeyed unconditionally. Your very

salvation depends entirely on unconditionally obeying them, not Alan

Wherry, Viktor Bondar, John Noyce and others. After all, Sahaja Yoga

is about the Last Judgment and Resurrection.

 

" Today, Sahaja Yoga has reached the state of Mahayoga, which is en-

masse evolution manifested through it. It is this day's Yuga Dharma.

It is the way the Last Judgment is taking place. Announce it to all

the seekers of truth, to all the nations of the world, so that

nobody misses the blessings of the Divine to achieve their meaning,

their absolute, their spirit. " (Shri Mataji)

 

Jai Shri Ganapathi,

 

 

jagbir

 

 

 

 

Viktor Bondar <viktorbo108

" Yura " < inspired

Mon, 6 Mar 2006 17:23:59 +0200

Fw: Hi Viktor

 

John Noyce of Australia has been keeping a close eye on the

activities of the owner of www.adishakti.org , who used to be in SY

but clearly isn't a Sahaja Yogi now, and is openly critical of all

Sahaja leadership, including, at times Shri Mataji Herself.

 

He is somewhat eccentric and for example, advocates not using a

photo of Mother when meditating, not footsoaking etc. The owner of

this site, one Jagbir Singh of Canada is on a crusade to spread his

own eccentric, supraconscious view of what Sahaja Yoga is, and

where possible we should advise people not to go there - although

of course, individuals are free to do what they like.

 

John tells me that the web site http://inspired.kiev.ua/about/

links to www.adishakti.org

 

Obviously, I don't know the owner of that web site, Yuriy Linnyk,

whether he is Sahaj or not, but in the event that he is known to

you, is it possible that you might prevail upon him to remove the

link as it contains much erroneous and inaccurate information.

Yuriy lists adishakti.org before the official Sahaj Yoga website.

 

Much love and best wishes

 

Alan

Jai Shri Mataji

 

 

------------------

 

 

Dear Jagbir,

 

I must admit that I greatly admire your apparently boundless

enthusiasm and limitless energy in doing the work of our Divine

Mother. You have now created five web sites to express the glory and

love of the Goddess of the Universe, namely,

 

http://www.adishakti.org/

http://www.al-qiyamah.org/

http://www.adi-shakti.org/

http://www.tao-mother.org/

http://www.aykaa-mayee.org/

 

But, horrors of horrors, you have done all this without going

through the proper channels, without the approval of the world

council, and, the greatest sin of all, without an imprimatur from

Monsignor Alan Wherry.

 

I don't know if you are aware of the devious scheming that is still

going on behind the scenes to undermine you. This much I have heard:

These people whom you refer to as murmuring souls are now trying a

new tack. Believing Shri Mataji to be incapacitated, these people

are now apparently approaching Sir CP probably with a view to

persuading Sir CP to order you to cease and desist. This cunning

trick is not going to work, of course, because Shri Mataji had found

nothing to object about your work and had asked these people to

leave you alone. But this has not deterred these devious Iagos.

(Iago, as in Shakespeare's Othello) Furthermore, this sly act is an

insult to Shri Mataji as She had previously given an instruction

that you be left alone, and this instruction is being ignored, Her

perceived incapacitated condition being cleverly taken advantage of.

This is also an insult to Sir CP as he is being unwittingly made

used of by these Iagos to settle old scores. Enough said.

 

Yes Jagbir, you are indeed an embarrassment to Sahaja Yoga (the

organization of Sahaja Yoga, that is). You are embarrassingly

enthusiastic, embarrassingly exuberant, embarrassingly loud,

embarrassing energetic, embarrassingly tenacious, embarrassingly

industrious, embarrassingly creative,... but, what the hell, keep it

up! Don't let the howling hyenas and baying jackals and the evil

Iagos distract you from doing such great work.

 

C.

[Guest guest]

, " jagbir

singh " <adishakti_org wrote:

 

" WCASY is trying to destroy those who bear, uphold and give evidence of this

Divine Message and inner manifestation of the Paraclete. So it is your sacred

duty to resist them with all your heart, mind and soul. Always remember that

Shri Mataji is the Comforter sent by Jesus in the name of the Father (God

Almighty). Without question this is the Trinity that must be obeyed

unconditionally. Your very salvation depends entirely on unconditionally obeying

them, not Alan Wherry, Viktor Bondar, John Noyce and others. After all, Sahaja

Yoga is about the Last Judgment and Resurrection. "

 

Dear Jagbir,

 

It is clear now why Shri Mataji repeatedly stressed the lesson of Arjuna, which

is to stand up for the Dharma even when those around you (in fact your own

Sahaja family members) are not doing so.

 

Now it all makes sense, why the Arjuna lesson was so very important, because

Shri Mataji mentioned that lesson over and over again. It was obviously meant to

be imbibed for some great purpose yet to occasion, rather than simply for the

retelling of a great heroic epic.

 

The reason for that retelling of the Arjuna lesson was that we would one day

face a similar situation (which we now have) in the Organisation of Sahaja Yoga.

Sahaja Yogis are all now in that position to either follow the Dharma, or not

follow the Dharma. So which is it going to be? Are they going to follow the Will

of Alan Wherry, Victor Bondar, John Noyce and others, or are they going to

follow the Will of the Adi Shakti, the Holy Spirit?

 

i would say that now is the time to make the decision to follow the Will of the

Adi Shakti, the Holy Spirit. If SY's do not determine to make any decision at

all, it will be made for them by Alan Wherry, Viktor Bondar, John Noyce and

others, who are only to happy and willing to do that on your behalf. They have

an active campaign going (as we already have given proof)... to make sure that

you do follow them in preference to following the Adi Shakti, who is the Holy

Spirit within you.

 

Therefore, your reminder is very timely, Jagbir: -

 

" It is indeed our sacred duty to resist them with all our heart, mind and soul,

always remembering that Shri Mataji is the Comforter sent by Jesus in the name

of the Father (God Almighty). It is indeed without question that this is the

Trinity that must be obeyed unconditionally. Our very salvation does depend

entirely on unconditionally obeying them... and not Alan Wherry, Viktor Bondar,

John Noyce and others. After all, Sahaja Yoga " is " about the Last Judgment and

Resurrection.

 

violet

 

 

- In , " Violet "

> <violet.tubb@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > So now i have come to the real reason for this email, and it is a

> > message to John: -

> >

> > " John when I asked you over the telephone if you are on this forum

> > to keep an eye on Sahaja Yogis, you laughed at me and denied it.

> > Now... Kyyan has provided evidence and therefore proof that you

> > have been doing that all along. You have done it to me too, John.

> > How could you do this? Don't you know that you are torturing and

> > persecuting your brother and sister Sahaja Yogis? i love

> > your " real you... your Spirit " , but i do not like nor approve of

> > your actions. i am asking you as a Sahaj Sister to please!... " in

> > the Name of God Almighty " ... stop these wrong actions of yours.

> > These actions are not good for you or anyone else. They achieve

> > absolutely nothing at all, and only cause problems. It will

> > definitely not be good for your spiritual ascent to continue in

> > this manner (and i mean this most sincerely and send you my Sahaja

> > love, and i know this love is not a particularly pleasant form of

> > it... but i do care and i do hope that you will see that your

> > actions are wrong, and change them. That would make me very happy.

> > You can be a part of us here again, if you change your ways. We

> > forgive you. You do have a beauty in your Spirit. Please strive

> > for that, and forget everything else.)

> >

> > love and best wishes to all,

> >

> > violet

> >

>

>

> Dear Violet,

>

> John Noyce, as a self-realized soul, lied through his teeth and is

> now caught, not with his pants down, but butt naked. Kyyan received

> emails confirming him monitoring the forum and below i give you

> evidence of Alan Wherry, a World Council member, confirming the

> same. It was John Noyce who sent him a report after he found that a

> SY was having links to the www.adishakti.org site. Among other

> things, they were offended that www.adishakti.org was given a better

> pole position, an unfair advantage that smacked of treason.

>

> What i find disturbing is that Viktor Bondar, suddenly finding

> himself being requested to scratch Alan Wherry's back, went to great

> lengths to convince the SY that i am a possessed false guru, or

> something to that extent. This SY relented and removed the link.

>

> So it goes to show that WCASY members are actively engaged in

> preventing/discouraging SYs from visiting the www.adishakti.org

> site. Alan Wherry and Viktor Bondar are just two council members who

> have been, like John Noyce, caught butt naked trying to prevent SYs

> from knowing about the Adi Shakti and Her Divine Message to humanity

> based on a book which Shri Mataji repeatedly approved. And yet they

> have the audacity and temerity to claim they have 'inherited' Her

> Will, openly and blatantly contradicting all She willed in the past.

>

> As i said before, two thousands years Jesus tried to get His message

> through. When He failed due to the priestly class in charge of the

> masses and opposed to His mystical, esoteric and supraconscious

> teachings of the Kingdom of God within, Jesus promised to send the

> Comforter (Paraclete) who will bring humans to reminder about all

> the things that the Savior wanted to preach. It is obvious that it

> meant a future divine human personality who will have to spend years

> amongst humans to achieve that objective. It is also obvious that

> irrefutable evidence must be openly presented confirming both

> identity and authenticity of the Comforter. This has been done!

>

> Let me quote in order to elaborate:

>

> " The Paraclete, " the one who is to come, " is mentioned in the Bible

> in the Gospel of John. The term is used in two ways: First, the

> author of the book uses it in reference to Christ's ministry on

> Earth (both before and after his death) and second, Christ himself

> uses the term to describe a mysterious figure that will be sent to

> the disciples after his death to " be with them always. " ...

>

> So why all of the variations upon one word that attempts to describe

> a person? There is no individual expression for spirit in the

> languages of the Bible. The idea was used symbolically with words

> that are interpreted to mean literally wind and breath. In fact the

> English word spirit is simply an Anglicized version of the Latin

> word spiritus for breath. None of the prophets of Israel before the

> exile attribute their vocation to the action of the spirit or even

> have much to say about the spirit at all. It wasn't until Ezekiel

> and the climax of his prophecy during his vision of the valley of

> dry bones over which he was commanded to invoke the life giving

> breath, or wind, or spirit of God. Ezekiel's hope is so radically

> visualized that it becomes a key premise in later biblical

> prophesies. Realizing that the renewal of God's people could only

> come from God, the prophets began to seek a broad outpouring of his

> spirit. While Ezekiel doesn't mention an anticipated messianic king

> the rendering of this figure in the prophecy of Isaiah discloses

> that he is to be the everlasting bearer of the spirit.

>

> This prophetic hope passed down through the ages was clearly claimed

> by Jesus in his sermon at Nazareth. He is not only the everlasting

> bearer of the Holy Spirit but also the one who will dispense the

> gift of the Holy Spirit to others. The Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost is

> the third member of the Christian trinity, along with God the Father

> and God the Son. There is a clear interval between the epiphany of

> Jesus and the general distribution of the Holy Spirit. John relates

> early on in his gospel that the gift of the spirit could not be

> bestowed before Jesus was glorified or in other words, not before he

> had completed his work. John utilizes the Paraclete sayings to

> stress that the departure of Jesus, after his resurrection, must

> take place first no matter how much it saddens the disciples.

>

> There's little doubt that the word was used well before the Bible

> and Qur'an were written. Before the author John collected them into

> his Gospel the five sayings about the Paraclete were in all

> probability a separate set of ideas. In the New Testament John

> applies it directly to Jesus himself 13 and implies a likeness

> between the Paraclete and Jesus when he writes that the coming of

> the Paraclete will be the same as the coming of Jesus himself. In

> addition to the chronological relationships, there are other

> significant distinctions. The instructions of the Paraclete will be

> focused on Jesus and his teaching. The Paraclete will enlarge the

> range of Jesus' teaching to the world, as well as, press forward the

> disciple's understanding of " the truth " which is equaled with Jesus.

> The presence of the Paraclete will be permanent, in contrast to that

> of Jesus, which had to be withdrawn and lastly the existence of the

> Paraclete will be invisible and inward. Christian theologians

> surmise that John was personifying the Holy Spirit on a level that

> the people of his times would understand. Some scholars also

> interpret this passage as an allusion to the return of Jesus to the

> disciples after the Resurrection.

>

> No matter what the essence is of the Paraclete or its exact

> etymological orthography, there still remains the legacy of truth

> that Jesus left behind him as an unfinished religion to be completed

> and perfected by what Isaiah and John described, as well as, Lou

> whose life was a living model of a true Paraclete. "

>

> Paraclete

> http://everything2.com/index.pl?node=paraclete

>

> Sources:

>

> Paraclete. The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English:

> www.bartleby.com/61/70/P0057000.html

>

> Paraclete:

> lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/ b-greek/1999-November/008316.html

>

> The Holy Spirit in the Church - Scripture From Scratch:

> www.americancatholic.org/Newsletters/SFS/an0504.asp

>

> Metzger, Bruce M., and Coogan, Michael D. The Oxford Companion To

> The Bible. Oxford University Press, New York, 1993.p.288.

>

>

> i have given evidence below that WCASY members and their cronies

> like John Noyce are now actively engaged in preventing the Divine

> Message of the Comforter from reaching SYs, and spread to all

> humanity. Two thousand years later the priestly class in charge of

> SYs are opposed to the same mystical, esoteric and supraconscious

> teachings of Jesus and the Kingdom of God within. It seems like déjà

> vu all over again. This has been going on for years and now WCASY is

> actively engaged. That is the reason i say a satanic negativity has

> overpowered WCASY to prevent the unfinished teachings of the Savior

> from reaching the common people, just as it happened two millennia

> ago. So who are these council members and why are they repeating it?

>

> It is extremely important to understand this:

>

> " John relates early on in his gospel that the gift of the spirit

> could not be bestowed before Jesus was glorified or in other words,

> not before he had completed his work. John utilizes the Paraclete

> sayings to stress that the departure of Jesus, after his

> resurrection, must take place first no matter how much it saddens

> the disciples. "

>

> As the promised Paraclete, Shri Mataji has spent decades glorifying

> Jesus, His Kingdom (Sahasrara) and message of the Last Judgment. The

> gift of the spirit can now be bestowed since Jesus is glorified and

> of far more significant, He has completed His work through the

> Paraclete. That is why, without any exception or error of past

> manifestations, the Spirit is ONLY NOW bestowed en masse on all who

> are taking part in the Last Judgment. That is why ONLY NOW

> participating humans are feeling the Wind of the (internal) Spirit,

> the Wind of (internal) Resurrection.

>

> Moreover, and this is extremely important to thoroughly understand,

> the " presence of the Paraclete will be permanent, in contrast to

> that of Jesus, which had to be withdrawn and lastly the existence of

> the Paraclete will be invisible and inward. "

>

> WCASY is trying to destroy those who bear, uphold and give evidence

> of this Divine Message and inner manifestation of the Paraclete.

>

> So it is your sacred duty to resist them with all your heart, mind

> and soul. Always remember that Shri Mataji is the Comforter sent by

> Jesus in the name of the Father (God Almighty). Without question

> this is the Trinity that must be obeyed unconditionally. Your very

> salvation depends entirely on unconditionally obeying them, not Alan

> Wherry, Viktor Bondar, John Noyce and others. After all, Sahaja Yoga

> is about the Last Judgment and Resurrection.

>

> " Today, Sahaja Yoga has reached the state of Mahayoga, which is en-

> masse evolution manifested through it. It is this day's Yuga Dharma.

> It is the way the Last Judgment is taking place. Announce it to all

> the seekers of truth, to all the nations of the world, so that

> nobody misses the blessings of the Divine to achieve their meaning,

> their absolute, their spirit. " (Shri Mataji)

>

> Jai Shri Ganapathi,

>

>

> jagbir

>

>

>

>

> Viktor Bondar <viktorbo108

> " Yura " < inspired

> Mon, 6 Mar 2006 17:23:59 +0200

> Fw: Hi Viktor

>

> John Noyce of Australia has been keeping a close eye on the

> activities of the owner of www.adishakti.org , who used to be in SY

> but clearly isn't a Sahaja Yogi now, and is openly critical of all

> Sahaja leadership, including, at times Shri Mataji Herself.

>

> He is somewhat eccentric and for example, advocates not using a

> photo of Mother when meditating, not footsoaking etc. The owner of

> this site, one Jagbir Singh of Canada is on a crusade to spread his

> own eccentric, supraconscious view of what Sahaja Yoga is, and

> where possible we should advise people not to go there - although

> of course, individuals are free to do what they like.

>

> John tells me that the web site http://inspired.kiev.ua/about/

> links to www.adishakti.org

>

> Obviously, I don't know the owner of that web site, Yuriy Linnyk,

> whether he is Sahaj or not, but in the event that he is known to

> you, is it possible that you might prevail upon him to remove the

> link as it contains much erroneous and inaccurate information.

> Yuriy lists adishakti.org before the official Sahaj Yoga website.

>

> Much love and best wishes

>

> Alan

> Jai Shri Mataji

>

>

> ------------------

>

>

> Dear Jagbir,

>

> I must admit that I greatly admire your apparently boundless

> enthusiasm and limitless energy in doing the work of our Divine

> Mother. You have now created five web sites to express the glory and

> love of the Goddess of the Universe, namely,

>

> http://www.adishakti.org/

> http://www.al-qiyamah.org/

> http://www.adi-shakti.org/

> http://www.tao-mother.org/

> http://www.aykaa-mayee.org/

>

> But, horrors of horrors, you have done all this without going

> through the proper channels, without the approval of the world

> council, and, the greatest sin of all, without an imprimatur from

> Monsignor Alan Wherry.

>

> I don't know if you are aware of the devious scheming that is still

> going on behind the scenes to undermine you. This much I have heard:

> These people whom you refer to as murmuring souls are now trying a

> new tack. Believing Shri Mataji to be incapacitated, these people

> are now apparently approaching Sir CP probably with a view to

> persuading Sir CP to order you to cease and desist. This cunning

> trick is not going to work, of course, because Shri Mataji had found

> nothing to object about your work and had asked these people to

> leave you alone. But this has not deterred these devious Iagos.

> (Iago, as in Shakespeare's Othello) Furthermore, this sly act is an

> insult to Shri Mataji as She had previously given an instruction

> that you be left alone, and this instruction is being ignored, Her

> perceived incapacitated condition being cleverly taken advantage of.

> This is also an insult to Sir CP as he is being unwittingly made

> used of by these Iagos to settle old scores. Enough said.

>

> Yes Jagbir, you are indeed an embarrassment to Sahaja Yoga (the

> organization of Sahaja Yoga, that is). You are embarrassingly

> enthusiastic, embarrassingly exuberant, embarrassingly loud,

> embarrassing energetic, embarrassingly tenacious, embarrassingly

> industrious, embarrassingly creative,... but, what the hell, keep it

> up! Don't let the howling hyenas and baying jackals and the evil

> Iagos distract you from doing such great work.

>

> C.

>

[Guest guest]

, " jagbir

singh " <adishakti_org wrote:

 

" Without question this is the Trinity that must be obeyed

unconditionally. Your very salvation depends entirely on

unconditionally obeying them, not Alan Wherry, Viktor Bondar, John

Noyce and others.

 

Dear Jagbir and All,

 

Just like you have said... Jeremiah, the prophet in the Bible has also told that

we must trust in the Lord for our " salvation " as the Christians call it (or our

" moksha " as the Hindus call it.) He states that our salvation can never come

from mankind. Kyyan and Jagbir have now given proof of how such religious

organisers as the abovementioned are going all out to have everyone follow

them... instead of following the Lord.

 

i tell you Sahaja Yogi brothers and sisters... there is much spiritual danger

inherent right within the Organisation of Sahaja Yoga itself, if we follow these

'blind leaders of the blind'... these hypocrites... who would rather have you

follow them... than have you following the Lord.

 

Here is what Jeremiah the prophet (in effect)... said about them: -

 

" Cursed is the man who trusts in mankind and makes flesh his strength, and whose

heart turns away from the Lord, for he will be like a bush in the desert and

will not see when prosperity comes, but will live in stony wastes in the

wilderness, a land of salt without inhabitant.

 

Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord and whose trust is the Lord... for he

will be like a tree planted by the water, that extends its roots by a stream and

will not fear when the heat comes; but its leaves will be green, and it will not

be anxious in a year of drought... nor cease to yield fruit.

 

The heart (of the lower self) is more deceitful than all else and is desperately

sick; who can understand it? I... the Lord... search the heart. I test the

mind... even (in order) to give to each man according to his ways... according

to the results of his deeds.

 

As a partridge that hatches eggs which it has not laid... so is he who makes a

fortune... but unjustly. In the midst of his days it will forsake him, and in

the end he will be a fool. "

 

(Jeremiah 17:5-11)

 

So... dear yogis, do not worry or fear if the abovementioned hypocrites email

and chase you right out of the Organisation of Sahaja Yoga, because you will not

follow them, but will rather follow the Lord. We have gone there before you. We

are hoping that you will stand up against this spiritual oppression that is

rampant in the Organisation of Sahaja Yoga. We need to be like Arjuna now. We

need to be strong and courageous and stand up for the Truth that Shri Matjai has

given, which also agrees with the essence of the teachings of all the other

Incarnations and prophets also.

 

love to all,

 

Violet

 

 

-in ,

" Violet " <violet.tubb wrote:

>

> , " jagbir

> singh " <adishakti_org@> wrote:

>

> " WCASY is trying to destroy those who bear, uphold and give

evidence of this Divine Message and inner manifestation of the

Paraclete. So it is your sacred duty to resist them with all your

heart, mind and soul. Always remember that Shri Mataji is the

Comforter sent by Jesus in the name of the Father (God Almighty).

Without question this is the Trinity that must be obeyed

unconditionally. Your very salvation depends entirely on

unconditionally obeying them, not Alan Wherry, Viktor Bondar, John

Noyce and others. After all, Sahaja Yoga is about the Last Judgment

and Resurrection. "

>

> Dear Jagbir,

>

> It is clear now why Shri Mataji repeatedly stressed the lesson of

Arjuna, which is to stand up for the Dharma even when those around

you (in fact your own Sahaja family members) are not doing so.

>

> Now it all makes sense, why the Arjuna lesson was so very

important, because Shri Mataji mentioned that lesson over and over

again. It was obviously meant to be imbibed for some great purpose

yet to occasion, rather than simply for the retelling of a great

heroic epic.

>

> The reason for that retelling of the Arjuna lesson was that we

would one day face a similar situation (which we now have) in the

Organisation of Sahaja Yoga. Sahaja Yogis are all now in that

position to either follow the Dharma, or not follow the Dharma. So

which is it going to be? Are they going to follow the Will of Alan

Wherry, Victor Bondar, John Noyce and others, or are they going to

follow the Will of the Adi Shakti, the Holy Spirit?

>

> i would say that now is the time to make the decision to follow the

Will of the Adi Shakti, the Holy Spirit. If SY's do not determine to

make any decision at all, it will be made for them by Alan Wherry,

Viktor Bondar, John Noyce and others, who are only to happy and

willing to do that on your behalf. They have an active campaign going

(as we already have given proof)... to make sure that you do follow

them in preference to following the Adi Shakti, who is the Holy

Spirit within you.

>

> Therefore, your reminder is very timely, Jagbir: -

>

> " It is indeed our sacred duty to resist them with all our heart,

mind and soul, always remembering that Shri Mataji is the Comforter

sent by Jesus in the name of the Father (God Almighty). It is indeed

without question that this is the Trinity that must be obeyed

unconditionally. Our very salvation does depend entirely on

unconditionally obeying them... and not Alan Wherry, Viktor Bondar,

John Noyce and others. After all, Sahaja Yoga " is " about the Last

Judgment and Resurrection.

>

> violet

>

>

> - In , " Violet "

> > <violet.tubb@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > So now i have come to the real reason for this email, and it is

a

> > > message to John: -

> > >

> > > " John when I asked you over the telephone if you are on this

forum

> > > to keep an eye on Sahaja Yogis, you laughed at me and denied it.

> > > Now... Kyyan has provided evidence and therefore proof that you

> > > have been doing that all along. You have done it to me too,

John.

> > > How could you do this? Don't you know that you are torturing and

> > > persecuting your brother and sister Sahaja Yogis? i love

> > > your " real you... your Spirit " , but i do not like nor approve of

> > > your actions. i am asking you as a Sahaj Sister to please!...

" in

> > > the Name of God Almighty " ... stop these wrong actions of yours.

> > > These actions are not good for you or anyone else. They achieve

> > > absolutely nothing at all, and only cause problems. It will

> > > definitely not be good for your spiritual ascent to continue in

> > > this manner (and i mean this most sincerely and send you my

Sahaja

> > > love, and i know this love is not a particularly pleasant form

of

> > > it... but i do care and i do hope that you will see that your

> > > actions are wrong, and change them. That would make me very

happy.

> > > You can be a part of us here again, if you change your ways. We

> > > forgive you. You do have a beauty in your Spirit. Please strive

> > > for that, and forget everything else.)

> > >

> > > love and best wishes to all,

> > >

> > > violet

> > >

> >

> >

> > Dear Violet,

> >

> > John Noyce, as a self-realized soul, lied through his teeth and is

> > now caught, not with his pants down, but butt naked. Kyyan

received

> > emails confirming him monitoring the forum and below i give you

> > evidence of Alan Wherry, a World Council member, confirming the

> > same. It was John Noyce who sent him a report after he found that

a

> > SY was having links to the www.adishakti.org site. Among other

> > things, they were offended that www.adishakti.org was given a

better

> > pole position, an unfair advantage that smacked of treason.

> >

> > What i find disturbing is that Viktor Bondar, suddenly finding

> > himself being requested to scratch Alan Wherry's back, went to

great

> > lengths to convince the SY that i am a possessed false guru, or

> > something to that extent. This SY relented and removed the link.

> >

> > So it goes to show that WCASY members are actively engaged in

> > preventing/discouraging SYs from visiting the www.adishakti.org

> > site. Alan Wherry and Viktor Bondar are just two council members

who

> > have been, like John Noyce, caught butt naked trying to prevent

SYs

> > from knowing about the Adi Shakti and Her Divine Message to

humanity

> > based on a book which Shri Mataji repeatedly approved. And yet

they

> > have the audacity and temerity to claim they have 'inherited' Her

> > Will, openly and blatantly contradicting all She willed in the

past.

> >

> > As i said before, two thousands years Jesus tried to get His

message

> > through. When He failed due to the priestly class in charge of the

> > masses and opposed to His mystical, esoteric and supraconscious

> > teachings of the Kingdom of God within, Jesus promised to send the

> > Comforter (Paraclete) who will bring humans to reminder about all

> > the things that the Savior wanted to preach. It is obvious that it

> > meant a future divine human personality who will have to spend

years

> > amongst humans to achieve that objective. It is also obvious that

> > irrefutable evidence must be openly presented confirming both

> > identity and authenticity of the Comforter. This has been done!

> >

> > Let me quote in order to elaborate:

> >

> > " The Paraclete, " the one who is to come, " is mentioned in the

Bible

> > in the Gospel of John. The term is used in two ways: First, the

> > author of the book uses it in reference to Christ's ministry on

> > Earth (both before and after his death) and second, Christ himself

> > uses the term to describe a mysterious figure that will be sent to

> > the disciples after his death to " be with them always. " ...

> >

> > So why all of the variations upon one word that attempts to

describe

> > a person? There is no individual expression for spirit in the

> > languages of the Bible. The idea was used symbolically with words

> > that are interpreted to mean literally wind and breath. In fact

the

> > English word spirit is simply an Anglicized version of the Latin

> > word spiritus for breath. None of the prophets of Israel before

the

> > exile attribute their vocation to the action of the spirit or even

> > have much to say about the spirit at all. It wasn't until Ezekiel

> > and the climax of his prophecy during his vision of the valley of

> > dry bones over which he was commanded to invoke the life giving

> > breath, or wind, or spirit of God. Ezekiel's hope is so radically

> > visualized that it becomes a key premise in later biblical

> > prophesies. Realizing that the renewal of God's people could only

> > come from God, the prophets began to seek a broad outpouring of

his

> > spirit. While Ezekiel doesn't mention an anticipated messianic

king

> > the rendering of this figure in the prophecy of Isaiah discloses

> > that he is to be the everlasting bearer of the spirit.

> >

> > This prophetic hope passed down through the ages was clearly

claimed

> > by Jesus in his sermon at Nazareth. He is not only the everlasting

> > bearer of the Holy Spirit but also the one who will dispense the

> > gift of the Holy Spirit to others. The Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost

is

> > the third member of the Christian trinity, along with God the

Father

> > and God the Son. There is a clear interval between the epiphany of

> > Jesus and the general distribution of the Holy Spirit. John

relates

> > early on in his gospel that the gift of the spirit could not be

> > bestowed before Jesus was glorified or in other words, not before

he

> > had completed his work. John utilizes the Paraclete sayings to

> > stress that the departure of Jesus, after his resurrection, must

> > take place first no matter how much it saddens the disciples.

> >

> > There's little doubt that the word was used well before the Bible

> > and Qur'an were written. Before the author John collected them

into

> > his Gospel the five sayings about the Paraclete were in all

> > probability a separate set of ideas. In the New Testament John

> > applies it directly to Jesus himself 13 and implies a likeness

> > between the Paraclete and Jesus when he writes that the coming of

> > the Paraclete will be the same as the coming of Jesus himself. In

> > addition to the chronological relationships, there are other

> > significant distinctions. The instructions of the Paraclete will

be

> > focused on Jesus and his teaching. The Paraclete will enlarge the

> > range of Jesus' teaching to the world, as well as, press forward

the

> > disciple's understanding of " the truth " which is equaled with

Jesus.

> > The presence of the Paraclete will be permanent, in contrast to

that

> > of Jesus, which had to be withdrawn and lastly the existence of

the

> > Paraclete will be invisible and inward. Christian theologians

> > surmise that John was personifying the Holy Spirit on a level that

> > the people of his times would understand. Some scholars also

> > interpret this passage as an allusion to the return of Jesus to

the

> > disciples after the Resurrection.

> >

> > No matter what the essence is of the Paraclete or its exact

> > etymological orthography, there still remains the legacy of truth

> > that Jesus left behind him as an unfinished religion to be

completed

> > and perfected by what Isaiah and John described, as well as, Lou

> > whose life was a living model of a true Paraclete. "

> >

> > Paraclete

> > http://everything2.com/index.pl?node=paraclete

> >

> > Sources:

> >

> > Paraclete. The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English:

> > www.bartleby.com/61/70/P0057000.html

> >

> > Paraclete:

> > lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/ b-greek/1999-November/008316.html

> >

> > The Holy Spirit in the Church - Scripture From Scratch:

> > www.americancatholic.org/Newsletters/SFS/an0504.asp

> >

> > Metzger, Bruce M., and Coogan, Michael D. The Oxford Companion To

> > The Bible. Oxford University Press, New York, 1993.p.288.

> >

> >

> > i have given evidence below that WCASY members and their cronies

> > like John Noyce are now actively engaged in preventing the Divine

> > Message of the Comforter from reaching SYs, and spread to all

> > humanity. Two thousand years later the priestly class in charge of

> > SYs are opposed to the same mystical, esoteric and supraconscious

> > teachings of Jesus and the Kingdom of God within. It seems like

déjà

> > vu all over again. This has been going on for years and now WCASY

is

> > actively engaged. That is the reason i say a satanic negativity

has

> > overpowered WCASY to prevent the unfinished teachings of the

Savior

> > from reaching the common people, just as it happened two millennia

> > ago. So who are these council members and why are they repeating

it?

> >

> > It is extremely important to understand this:

> >

> > " John relates early on in his gospel that the gift of the spirit

> > could not be bestowed before Jesus was glorified or in other

words,

> > not before he had completed his work. John utilizes the Paraclete

> > sayings to stress that the departure of Jesus, after his

> > resurrection, must take place first no matter how much it saddens

> > the disciples. "

> >

> > As the promised Paraclete, Shri Mataji has spent decades

glorifying

> > Jesus, His Kingdom (Sahasrara) and message of the Last Judgment.

The

> > gift of the spirit can now be bestowed since Jesus is glorified

and

> > of far more significant, He has completed His work through the

> > Paraclete. That is why, without any exception or error of past

> > manifestations, the Spirit is ONLY NOW bestowed en masse on all

who

> > are taking part in the Last Judgment. That is why ONLY NOW

> > participating humans are feeling the Wind of the (internal)

Spirit,

> > the Wind of (internal) Resurrection.

> >

> > Moreover, and this is extremely important to thoroughly

understand,

> > the " presence of the Paraclete will be permanent, in contrast to

> > that of Jesus, which had to be withdrawn and lastly the existence

of

> > the Paraclete will be invisible and inward. "

> >

> > WCASY is trying to destroy those who bear, uphold and give

evidence

> > of this Divine Message and inner manifestation of the Paraclete.

> >

> > So it is your sacred duty to resist them with all your heart, mind

> > and soul. Always remember that Shri Mataji is the Comforter sent

by

> > Jesus in the name of the Father (God Almighty). Without question

> > this is the Trinity that must be obeyed unconditionally. Your very

> > salvation depends entirely on unconditionally obeying them, not

Alan

> > Wherry, Viktor Bondar, John Noyce and others. After all, Sahaja

Yoga

> > is about the Last Judgment and Resurrection.

> >

> > " Today, Sahaja Yoga has reached the state of Mahayoga, which is

en-

> > masse evolution manifested through it. It is this day's Yuga

Dharma.

> > It is the way the Last Judgment is taking place. Announce it to

all

> > the seekers of truth, to all the nations of the world, so that

> > nobody misses the blessings of the Divine to achieve their

meaning,

> > their absolute, their spirit. " (Shri Mataji)

> >

> > Jai Shri Ganapathi,

> >

> >

> > jagbir

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Viktor Bondar <viktorbo108@>

> > " Yura " < inspired@>

> > Mon, 6 Mar 2006 17:23:59 +0200

> > Fw: Hi Viktor

> >

> > John Noyce of Australia has been keeping a close eye on the

> > activities of the owner of www.adishakti.org , who used to be in

SY

> > but clearly isn't a Sahaja Yogi now, and is openly critical of all

> > Sahaja leadership, including, at times Shri Mataji Herself.

> >

> > He is somewhat eccentric and for example, advocates not using a

> > photo of Mother when meditating, not footsoaking etc. The owner of

> > this site, one Jagbir Singh of Canada is on a crusade to spread

his

> > own eccentric, supraconscious view of what Sahaja Yoga is, and

> > where possible we should advise people not to go there - although

> > of course, individuals are free to do what they like.

> >

> > John tells me that the web site http://inspired.kiev.ua/about/

> > links to www.adishakti.org

> >

> > Obviously, I don't know the owner of that web site, Yuriy Linnyk,

> > whether he is Sahaj or not, but in the event that he is known to

> > you, is it possible that you might prevail upon him to remove the

> > link as it contains much erroneous and inaccurate information.

> > Yuriy lists adishakti.org before the official Sahaj Yoga website.

> >

> > Much love and best wishes

> >

> > Alan

> > Jai Shri Mataji

> >

> >

> > ------------------

> >

> >

> > Dear Jagbir,

> >

> > I must admit that I greatly admire your apparently boundless

> > enthusiasm and limitless energy in doing the work of our Divine

> > Mother. You have now created five web sites to express the glory

and

> > love of the Goddess of the Universe, namely,

> >

> > http://www.adishakti.org/

> > http://www.al-qiyamah.org/

> > http://www.adi-shakti.org/

> > http://www.tao-mother.org/

> > http://www.aykaa-mayee.org/

> >

> > But, horrors of horrors, you have done all this without going

> > through the proper channels, without the approval of the world

> > council, and, the greatest sin of all, without an imprimatur from

> > Monsignor Alan Wherry.

> >

> > I don't know if you are aware of the devious scheming that is

still

> > going on behind the scenes to undermine you. This much I have

heard:

> > These people whom you refer to as murmuring souls are now trying a

> > new tack. Believing Shri Mataji to be incapacitated, these people

> > are now apparently approaching Sir CP probably with a view to

> > persuading Sir CP to order you to cease and desist. This cunning

> > trick is not going to work, of course, because Shri Mataji had

found

> > nothing to object about your work and had asked these people to

> > leave you alone. But this has not deterred these devious Iagos.

> > (Iago, as in Shakespeare's Othello) Furthermore, this sly act is

an

> > insult to Shri Mataji as She had previously given an instruction

> > that you be left alone, and this instruction is being ignored, Her

> > perceived incapacitated condition being cleverly taken advantage

of.

> > This is also an insult to Sir CP as he is being unwittingly made

> > used of by these Iagos to settle old scores. Enough said.

> >

> > Yes Jagbir, you are indeed an embarrassment to Sahaja Yoga (the

> > organization of Sahaja Yoga, that is). You are embarrassingly

> > enthusiastic, embarrassingly exuberant, embarrassingly loud,

> > embarrassing energetic, embarrassingly tenacious, embarrassingly

> > industrious, embarrassingly creative,... but, what the hell, keep

it

> > up! Don't let the howling hyenas and baying jackals and the evil

> > Iagos distract you from doing such great work.

> >

> > C.

> >

>