SM: Angels ... they are there, sometimes working through a human form to help you in many ways.

August 22, 2006

, " Violet "

<violet.tubb wrote:

>

> Dear Jagbir,

>

> Thank you for your email:

>

> /message/6604

>

> i have a better understanding of the great responsibility that you

> and your wife have, since you have actually explained that it has

> been revealed that both Kash and Lalita are angels. You and your

> wife are blessed indeed, and so are we, who believe in angels.

>

Thank you Violet for expressing the outpouring of joy that Shri

Mataji expected from SYs. It was supposed to be a blessing for all

SYs to deepen their faith and convince all others - Hindus, Jews,

Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Sikhs – that She is indeed the

incarnation of the Adi Shakti.

Few understand the sheer immensity of Her powers in not only

enabling Kash and Lalita to witness Her, but also ensure their

births took place on the holiest days in Christianity and Islam.

This is an essential fact to authenticate the identity and divinity

of Shri Mataji sent to deliver the Good News of the Last Judgment

and Resurrection. Only the Shakti entrenched in the scriptures can

harmoniously synthesize the three great religions of Hinduism,

Christianity and Islam and bringing their followers together.

What now humbles me into Silence is that, while i was wallowing in

drunken stupor and wantonness till I reached 42, She was quietly

going about and laying the groundwork required to complete Her work.

Only the Adi Shakti can accomplish and set in motion a chain of

events to unfold in a preordained pattern. We are yet to witness the

end of this Divine Drama that will run well into the future.

> Your email has evinced a need for some more information in order

> to understand things better. As Shri Mataji has said that all

> Sahaja Yogis are " angels " , what is the difference between Sahaja

> Yogis being " angels " , which Shri Mataji has also called us... and

> Kash and Lalita being " angels " ? Does this just mean that they

> are " completely-born-realised souls " ... or that they are " special

> angels " that we would know the identity of... if you told us. (Are

> there any particular angels that accompany Shri Mataji, or is it

> just all the angels?)

>

" Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi attended this recent Sahaja Yoga public

program held at Albert Hall, London, UK. Below is a quote from the

Sahaja Yoga News magazine:

“Then She asked if anyone wanted to ask questions. A stream of

questions began and again Sri Mataji turned many of them into a joke

and got everyone laughing. It felt very luxurious as though we had

all the time in the world, that everyone was going to be completely

satisfied.

Somebody asked Her about Angels and She said that Angels are like

the flowers. They are beautiful. You cannot see them but they are

there, sometimes working through a human form to help you in many

ways.” "

Carol Robertson, Sahaja Yoga News, 13/10/00

I think when Shri Mataji says we SYs are all angels it is more a

figure of speech. Definitely, there are SYs who are angels, great

souls who have accompanied the Adi Shakti to help complete Her task

and ensure victory. But they are just unaware of their past lives.

However, the majority of SYs are just self-realized souls on the

verge of attaining moksa (liberation). Kash and Lalita are ancient

liberated souls. I did not ask Shri Mataji of their identity and

have no desire to. Neither are any of them interested nor think

nothing much of themselves.

> Also... i realise that angels are known to be the " Messengers of

> Truth " , who usually announce the Incarnation of someone, like what

> happened at Shri Jesus's Time, when i think it was the Angel

> Gabriel who announced the fact to the Blessed Mary, Mother of

> Jesus that She was to have a " special child " born to Her.

>

Yes, angels are messengers of Truth and Message, and act on behalf

of God Almighty to help deliver it.

> Another interesting thing that i believe that i remember Shri

> Mataji telling us... is that " Michaelangelo " (the Sistine Chapel

> painter) was also an incarnation of the Archangel Michael. Maybe,

> you would like to confirm that, but i am 99.9% sure Shri Mataji

> stated that this was the case... and that She also stated that

> the " angelo " bit at the end of his name means " angel " .

>

I believe I heard the same from SYs in my early years.

> So, given the fact that it has been revealed that Kash and Lalita

> are " angels " incarnated, this should not be too shocking to

> spiritually knowledgeable Sahaja Yogis at this Last Judgment and

> Resurrection Time, when it has also been predicted in the Koran,

> and when Shri Mataji has also stated that She has come with all

> the angels together.

>

When Shri Mataji has also stated that She has come with all the

angels together, it means both visible and invisible. Kash has told

me that all the deities are around Shri Mataji and guarding Her at

all times. These deities/angels cannot be seen with physical eyes

but they exist. So it is true when Shri Mataji says the deities are

around Her, especially during pujas when all are present to bear

witness.

Only those SYs who know the scriptures thoroughly, especially the

Bible and Qur'an, will be able to understand and believe that angels

are essential to validate this Last Judgment and Resurrection Time.

Since most are just in the subtle system kindergarten we cannot

blame them for their ignorance and disbelieve. To proclaim Shri

Mataji as the Comforter sent to deliver the Divine Message of the

Last Judgment and Resurrection requires the testimony of special

personalities which Shri Mataji talked about a decade ago. Only now

it is clear they are angels.

Christianity and Islam demands that angels must bear witness to any

Divine Messenger. This is what the Qur'an says about the Spirit who

reveals the Message of the Resurrection during the present Night of

Power:

We have indeed revealed this (Message) in the Night of Power:

And what will explain to thee what the Night of Power is?

The Night of Power is better than a thousand Months.

Therein come down the angels, and the Spirit by Allah's permission,

On every errand: Peace! This until the rise of morn!

surah 97:1-5 Al-Qadr (Night of Power)

(Abdullah Yusuf Ali, The Holy Qur'an, 1989.)

The Qur'an is clear that the Messenger of the Resurrection must be

accompanied by angels. The angels accompanying Shri Mataji were born

on the holiest days of Christianity and Islam - Lalita on Easter

Sunday (April 3, 1994) and Kash on Id Al-Adha (October 19, 1980). So

Shri Mataji is telling the truth when She said that She has come

with all the angels. By this She also means invisible angels eg. the

angels attending Her Guru Puja at Camp Talooli, Syracuse, USA on

July 16, 1995 which the Adi Shakti confirmed to be true:

http://adishakti.org/miracle_photo.htm

So we have both visible angels in human form and invisible angels in

spirit form bearing witness to surah 97:1-5 Al-Qadr (Night of

Power), leaving no room for Muslims to wriggle away.

> So... if you care to explain a bit more, i am sure that (not only

> myself, but others too) will be only too joyful and happy to hear

> more about this good news, and the spiritual knowledge that you

> say they have given, especially for Her Devotees. (Of course,

> those old fuddy-duddy-priestly-class will never be happy about

> that. You will wait till the Kingdom of God is established on

> Earth, and i am sure they will still be unhappy about the Kingdom

> that they thought they were going to rule on Earth).

>

I remember Kyyan and others requesting more information on Shri

Shiva, Hanuman and Sita/Rama. This is where i have stopped since the

negativity was overwhelming. Remember me telling that i can feel the

havans initiated against me. Let Shri Mataji destroy this negativity

first.

> However, there are a lot of us who are open to the Truth of the

> Spirit, and we don't give a " fig " if the John Noyces of this world

> break out into an allergic reactions. Let them! Let them sweat it

> out of their system! Let them stew in their jealousy juices! The

> more you give them, the more they will stew in it! Good. If

> jealousy is what they feel, then that is their own problem. Why

> let such narrow-minded religious dominators dominate the mystical

> beauty of Shri Mataji's Truth. They have dominated it and detained

> it for long enough! And... it looks like they have been trying to

> even dominate angels now. This is not surprising at all, of

> course. It is to be expected of the same ones, who also declare

> that they are the Will of Shri Mataji now. It all is

> very 'horribly logical' now... exactly what is happening. It is

> the priestly class having their last fling for Power on Earth...

> power over the masses.

>

Kyyan has given evidence of the dire straits of the Vancouver

ashram, the headquarters of the Inquisytion, and i am waiting for

Part 2. The problems are almost the same in most SY collectives

worldwide. It is evident that the stubborn subtle system camel is

dying of thirst. After all these years, we can now afford to wait a

bit longer and bear witness to the impending death throes.

> Alternatively, however, as far as the rank and file SY's are

> concerned, it may finally open their eyes and spiritually awaken

> them to a greater truth than their 'fenced-in and very externally-

> focussed' Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion that the priestly

> class organised so well for them, so all that they had to do was

> go: " A, B, C, D, E, F, AND G... AND THEN I WILL BE A GOOD SAHAJA

> YOGI! " i am sure it will help SY's in general to liberate them

> from the Formula of Sahaj that has been organised and imposed upon

> them by leaders, especially when they hear and understand the

> amazing Revelations that the Shakti has given... especially for

> Her Devoted Devotees. According to Shri Mataji: " It is especially

> for them! "

>

JSMJI

I have a weak swadhisthana, Left side to be precise, can u please

tell me any talk of Mother in which She has talked on Swadhishthana

chakra mostly or any puja cassette related to Swadhishthana... I'll

be greatfull

Thanking in anticipation

With Love for my siblings

Saarthak

> i now have something of interest to tell you... Jagbir... as well.

> Only it is such a vague memory, that i can only give an indication

> of it. i will tell what i can vaguely remember: -

>

Violet, you have brought to memory a chain of events that i never

knew happened, events that are critical to evidence the authenticity

and powers of Shri Mataji. Future generations will marvel and pay

homage to those who strived so hard against the odds to lay the

foundation of Her Divine Message. i am indeed fortunate to have you.

Or is it that She is using Her instruments to complete Her task?

> i recall Shri Mataji telling in person because i heard Her speak

> it and (i can't exactly remember the venue), but it was in Sydney,

> Australia somewhere, and it was either the third-last or the

> second-last major visit to Australia. The date therefore was

> between 1993-1995-6).

>

> Anyway, She told the group of Sahaja Yogis that there were

> two " special personalities " who either would be born or were to be

> born in Montreal, Canada (i can't remember which it was)... so

> please bear with me on that account. i think She said something

> about them being children at the time, or one was born, and

> the other 'yet to be born'. (i just can't remember which it is.)

>

So Shri Mataji did talk about them. This is so comforting to hear

Violet.

i also heard something to that effect in my early days i.e., about

Canada being the place from where Sahaja Yoga will spread.

Our `leader' Robert and wife Lisa who lived in Val David, Quebec,

told this to us in Montreal. It was then that i thought it may have

to do with what Kash was daily witnessing and revealing about Shri

Mataji. (However, i never suggested it to anyone since no one was

interested in what Kash was experiencing. As far as they were

concerned, he was just having some sort of visions due to serious

Agnya problems.)

Perhaps that is the reason why Montreal, Canada was chosen to hold

the North American Guru Puja at Camp Interval, Quebec, Canada on

July 23, 1994. Since there were so few SYs in Montreal i was

wondering why hold a grand Puja. This may well not be the reason why

such a puja was held in Quebec but i did hear that Canada would be

the place from where Sahaja Yoga will spread.

> (Btw. the reason i remember the place as being Montreal, Canada,

> is because i come from Canada too, and i agreed wholeheartedly

> that Canada should be so blessed to have such " special

> personalities " born there, and i visualised this in my mind, as

> being Montreal Canada at the time, and pondered on that, and felt

> very happy for the country of my birth... being blessed too.)

>

Canada is indeed a blessed land. i welcome all to immigrate and make

it their home.

> In any case, according to Shri Mataji, their incarnation (of these

> two) would be that they are " special personalities " which would

> give a great blessing to mankind because they would confirm Her

> (Shri Mataji's Incarnation). i will even go as far as saying that

> Shri Mataji might have said that they too, were some kind of a

> special incarnation, but i am not sure... but i think that was

> what Shri Mataji was saying. (It seemed like that to " me " , anyway,

> but i could have misunderstood Her; it could be that by

> saying " special personality, i only understood it " myself " as some

> kind of special incarnation).

>

Violet, this is just unbelievable. Since reading it there has been

much joy and relief. It is as if She has given me a weapon to fight

and destroy all Her foes. You have lifted a heavy burden off my

back. Thank you so much my sister.

Since this is the case why should SYs still be jealous? Why should

WCASY members like Alan Wheery and Viktor Bondar continue preventing

SYs from visiting/linking to www.adishakti.org? Why should John

Noyce continue spying on this forum and report to his master Alan

Wherry?

> She also said that they were yet to grow up and that we would not

> really hear much about them until they were older. She also said

> something about them not actually being in the Organisation of

> Sahaja Yoga itself, but they would be doing a separate job... a

> job about giving confirmation of Her Incarnation. Shri Mataji said

> that She only needed to mention this, and that there was nothing

> that we needed to do about that information, but that we would

> know about them at a later time.

>

All Shri Mataji said have indeed come true. None of my family knew

this but still it took place as She said would happen. i just don't

know what to say. Only the Adi Shakti can manifest such powers and i

bear witness and present evidence that She has fulfilled what She

said a decade ago.

> (Jagbir this memory came back because you revealed that your

> children are " angels " according to the Revelations of the Shakti.

> That triggered this memory, which was there somewhere in the

> background since 1993-1996) but which i had hidden.

>

i would not have mentioned about them being angels but a chain of

events just brought forth the issue. i believe the mention of Alan

Wherry's email to Viktar Bondar triggered these events and forced

the issue. Today i am glad it happened and Chuck's words carry great

weight, almost prophetic in nature: " I believe we are going through

a very great change which is commencing as I write this. "

> What Shri Mataji told was most enigmatic for me. For a start,

> children who had yet to grow up; then people who were not even in

> the Organisation of SY; then confirming that Shri Mataji is an

> Incarnation...what is that all about? There were too many unknown

> factors, plus the fact that Shri Mataji was so casual about it,

> and said it was not necessary to do anything about that; that time

> would reveal everything.

>

It is obvious that such a number of unknown factors, at times even

confusing and vague, would have quickly faded from collective

memory. The fact that it was not necessary to do anything only

ensured SYs forgot the whole issue over time.

> Can you blame me for being so vague, then, with all these what i

> would call quite 'wishy-washy' type of information, which seemed

> to have little relevance for me at the time... and then also being

> told that we do not need to have any concern about it. No wonder my

> memory is vague, and not only that, " special personalities " is not

> a thing Shri Mataji talked about really. She said everyone was

> special, so that was another reason, i never remembered this till

> you mentioned the word about Kash and Lalita being " angels " . That

> obviously triggered this " special personalities " memory that Shri

> Mataji told that day. i am sure most SY's won't remember either,

> because these seemed like such petty details at that time, and

> really meant very little to us Sahaja Yogis. There was no

> understanding by myself also. Who would understand such a thing?!)

>

Yes, all these do seem like petty details of a causal talk. Now it

evokes memories and fulfils the hope and great expectations long

forgotten.

> So... i thought i would tell you this, then... of what i have

> remembered about Shri Mataji having told us. i can tell you i

> would never have remembered this, if you had not told the " angel "

> word.

>

> warmest regards,

>

> violet

>

Thank you Violet for all this. You have no idea how much all this

means to my family. Maybe the Inquisytion will end now.

warmest regards,

jagbir

>

> ,

> " Violet " <violet.tubb@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear All,

> >

> > i have received an email in which the sender who prefers to

> > remain anonymous, reveals why SY's believe that there is no link

> > to Jagbir's websites and forums on the official SY website. i

> > also want you to know that this sender reworded their email for

> > purposes of confidentiality, before they would give me

> > permission to post it for them. They just did not want to be

> > victims and have to endure the by-now-famous " John Noyce

> > Clearing Treatment of Sahaj Love " ... which is known to clear

> > yogis right out from the Organisation of Sahaja Yoga, against

> > their own will... just for speaking up and telling the Truth

> > about Shri Mataji... and also for revealing that the WCASY have

> > an Inquisition Department (which i'll bet most yogis

> > do not even know about as yet, because they have been led to

> > believe that the Inquisition Department is actually the White

> > Knights Department, who are there to protect them)... that is...

> > until they want to find out for themselves and read this forum

> > with an open mind and heart, and do not allow themselves to

> > remain indoctrinated by anyone... but to really find out the

> > truth for themselves... " like a scientist " .

> >

> > Anyway... here is the email: -

> >

> > " There was someone really nice who has been in SY for quite some

> > time that I spoke to about the forums, and I wanted to know what

> > this person thought of Jagbir's forum, and about there being no

> > link to it on the official website. This person told me that

> > Jagbir's children have high vibrations, and that people are very

> > jealous. I think that there are a lot of people who do

> > appreciate and understand what Jagbir is doing. Jealousy is

> > behind a lot of behaviour that hurts people. "

> >

August 23, 2006

Dear All

i would have a question. I am wondering how it is

possible that WCASY and SY's can pretend that we have

all the deities built in us, yet they do qualify as

possessed children who are able to meet Shri Mataji in their

Sahasrara. It makes no sense for me.

regards

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August 23, 2006

Dear Jagbir (and all),

, " jagbir

singh " <adishakti_org wrote:

Thank you Violet for expressing the outpouring of joy that Shri

> Mataji expected from SYs. It was supposed to be a blessing for all

> SYs to deepen their faith and convince all others - Hindus, Jews,

> Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Sikhs – that She is indeed the

> incarnation of the Adi Shakti.

(There is nothing worse, Jagbir, than knowing something spiritually that others

cannot recognise. It must have been most difficult to contain so much joy

between only your immediate family (for example your wife, yourself and children

themselves)... because spiritual joy is something that must be shared. It is

literally " a pain " to have to contain one's spiritual joy and not be able to

share it. It is very sad that there was so much negativity against you, that you

could not share that joy with others, but got rebuked instead by inquisitionary

elements, who also proceeded to assail you in so many ways, not only to your

face, but also behind your back. It must have been a most sad time for you and

your family. You have had to " endure much " ! i cannot imagine... the greatest

knowledge on Earth, and having to " shut up " about it!!!

So... i have one question: - Were there any SY's who initially shared that joy

with you (outside of your family)... who felt the " high vibrations " of Kash and

Lalita... even if later, they reneged due to the undue pressure placed upon them

by the " inquisitionary elements " ?....

Because i know that the 'WCASY Brigade' were not called " WCASY " then, however

the 'players' were nonetheless on the " Stage of Sahaja Yoga " . (For example, i

remember 'our John' being there, from photos i have seen. i have seen him in

very close proximity to Shri Mataji... like escorting Her and managing Her (like

that). He was prominent in such a role. i also have noticed (through photos)

that it was John's wife who was the Doorkeeper at Sydney Airport (2006) this

year. i also remember having to go through her once to have access and closer

physical proximity to where Shri Mataji was.)

That is why, one of the things that i dearly look forward to in the Fullness of

this Golden Age, when only truth, wisdom, knowledge, and understanding will rule

the day... the spiritually ignorant pharisaical types will no longer rule,

because they use their energies to try and keep the spiritual knowledge away

from the people... and away from the masses. (Lets not forget, for example, that

they also tried to keep Dr. Mary Ann from presenting her book to Shri Mataji

this memorable year, 2006, when Shri Mataji very much desired that book to be

written. The book contains much information, to enlighten the masses, as regards

to certain knowledge therein which Shri Mataji considered very important.

The fact is... in this new Golden Age, it will be the Spirit of God within

" ALL " ... that will be the Spiritual Ruler, ruling through our hearts, and minds,

and souls, and we will be as One Family upon the Earth... working peacefully and

lovingly together. It is happening already. In fact that is what we are also

working towards Jagbir!

> Few understand the sheer immensity of Her powers in not only

> enabling Kash and Lalita to witness Her, but also ensure their

> births took place on the holiest days in Christianity and Islam.

> This is an essential fact to authenticate the identity and divinity

> of Shri Mataji sent to deliver the Good News of the Last Judgment

> and Resurrection. Only the Shakti entrenched in the scriptures can

> harmoniously synthesize the three great religions of Hinduism,

> Christianity and Islam and bringing their followers together.

(You are certainly correct about that. It is incredible. i don't think any of us

will realise this for some time to come. These things are not easily

comprehended, that is, the sheer immensity of Her powers... the sheer immensity

of what She has accomplished is completely beyond the comprehension of our

minds.)

> What now humbles me into Silence is that, while i was wallowing in

> drunken stupor and wantonness till I reached 42, She was quietly

> going about and laying the groundwork required to complete Her work.

> Only the Adi Shakti can accomplish and set in motion a chain of

> events to unfold in a preordained pattern. We are yet to witness the

> end of this Divine Drama that will run well into the future.

(You had a most dramatic spiritual awakening, that also made you face your Self,

and this happened at 42, and not earlier. As you say, you were " wallowing in

drunken stupor and wantonness' until then. Of course, 'most self-righteous

pharisees' would say " tut, tut " ... we cannot have such a man in such a position.

However, what 'these pharisees' forget... is that God much prefers a contrite

sinner who turns to God, than the stench of the fake holiness of spiritual

hypocrites. He just cannot abide them!

i know how humble you are, and that there is not a single bone of conceit in

your body about being " chosen " to do a special task. (A feeling of gratitude,

honour and self-pride (confidence) is there... of course!) The Divine " did pick

you up " in no uncertain terms to do this job you obviously agreed to do. Some

people " do get spiritual contracts to fulfill " ... contracts which they agreed

to. i believe you have had to fulfil your contract. As you say... " the Adi

Shakti was quietly going about and laying the groundwork required to complete

Her work " . She leaves nothing to chance. She would have known your ability to do

this Great Task that has been laid on your shoulders to see through to its

completion.

Jealousy sometimes raises its ugly head, because people discern the glory in

something. Little do they know... that whenever a person has an honor bestowed

on them, they usually have much harder spiritual lessons to cope with too. For

example, you (and your wife) have suffered immensely because of taking on this

great responsibility of the Divine Message of the Adi Shakti. People have not

realised the daily and yearly strain of the job that you do. For example...

whole collectives of people who call themselves " Sahaja Yogis " have even used

havans against you (as if you were a negativity that had to be surrendered to

the fire in a havan) and they have done this in spiritual ignorance, as lead by

the spiritually blind leaders. Even though that was a terrible mistake...

" ignorance " is " still ignorance " , and Shri Mataji has said of " ignorance " that

it is the " greatest negativity of all negativities. "

.... But you have had to suffer that. All the forces of darkness, you have had to

face... almost single-handedly. When the WCASY Members cry in their teacups,

because this website has people who complain (and rightly so) about WCASY's

attempted domination of them... then the same WCASY Brigade feel 'hard done by'.

They do not understand that they are just 'reaping what they have sown'. For

example... it seems that the Inquisition Department can do all their dirty

tricks and call you all sorts of things behind your back, Jagbir... but when you

openly refute what they say... with the Truth, they remain silent... " stone

silent " . They just get upset and feel that you are being unfair and are wrongly

judging them!

This is laughable! For a start, they do not have an ounce of your courage, dear

brother... not even " one ounce " . They do not even have the courage to post here

" openly and honestly " . ('Our John' is a prime example of that, who even had to

hide behind many I.D.'s. He will tell everybody else exactly what to do, but do

not expect him by any means... to back that up with the Teachings of Shri Mataji

in their Fullness, nor with the Scriptures of all spiritual traditions, either!

As you say, Jagbir... we certainly are " yet to witness the end of this Divine

Drama that will run well into the future " .)

Somebody asked Her about Angels and She said that Angels are like

> the flowers. They are beautiful. You cannot see them but they are

> there, sometimes working through a human form to help you in many

> ways. " "

>

> Carol Robertson, Sahaja Yoga News, 13/10/00

(It is good to get Shri Mataji's Word on this... that sometimes, indeed " angels "

are working through a human form. We are living in very exciting times, Jagbir.

Angels have come down to help us! i knew your children were (figuratively

speaking) 'angels'... but i did not know that they were " real angels " ... in

other words... ancient and spiritually liberated souls... until you told us.

Now, if i will read anything that these angelic messengers have given, there

will be a new poignancy in the reading of it. i am so glad that you have told us

this great news! Thank you.)

I think when Shri Mataji says we SYs are all angels it is more a

> figure of speech. Definitely, there are SYs who are angels, great

> souls who have accompanied the Adi Shakti to help complete Her task

> and ensure victory. But they are just unaware of their past lives.

> However, the majority of SYs are just self-realized souls on the

> verge of attaining moksa (liberation). Kash and Lalita are ancient

> liberated souls. I did not ask Shri Mataji of their identity and

> have no desire to. Neither are any of them interested nor think

> nothing much of themselves.

(Generally speaking, my understanding of SY's being " angels " is that their

'garments are whiter than snow'. The Psalmist referred to this, when he said:

" Wash me and i shall be whiter than snow " . (Psalms 51:7b) Btw... it might

interest you to know that the psalmist first says: Verse 7a - " Purify me with

hyssop and i shall be clean " (that's an external treatment!)... and then he says

in Verse 7b - " Wash me and i shall be whiter than snow " (that can only refer to

the power of the kundalini energy to wash or cleanse a person from within!)

Washing with water obviously does not make a person " whiter than snow " !

i wanted to tell you of a really interesting experience that happened to us SY's

when we had a Self-Realisation Stall at the " Body, Mind, Spirit festival in

Gosford, N.S.W. By happy coincidence there was one of those

" Photograph-Your-Aura " booths next door. We SY's decided this was an opportunity

for us... so we organised some folks to do a " before S.R. aura photograph " and

an " after S.R. one " . With each of the three people who tried this scientific

experiment with us... the aura photo before they got their S.R. was of several

different colours, but in each case, the aura photo taken " after " they received

their S.R. was in each case very white... you could say it was... " whiter than

snow " . (We were of course, elated that we had seen scientific proof of the

ability of the kundalini eneregy to " wash " a person's aura " completely clean " .

The kundalini energy " did that " ... when it awakened within those people. Their

garments (auras)were " indeed " ... " whiter than snow " !) Once it has arisen... of

course, it needs to be nurtured, to keep it up, because it has to stay up

against gravity. A person has to become their Spirit, for it is a spiritual

state that is involved. You have to work with your kundalini energy, and be that

spiritual person. A person who is foolish and not interested... the kundalini

knows that and She will not even arise for them. She is not stupid.

i also understand " angels " such as Kash and Lalita to be ancient liberated

souls. In other words, they have already had their spiritual liberation or

moksha. They are not tied down to the Earth. They have access to knowledge that

those who are not spiritually liberated... cannot have... while they are still

in spiritual bondage. That these have accompanied Shri Mataji's Incarnation,

should be greatly appreciated by all Sahaja Yogis, and i am sure they will...

once they find out the Truth, and it is not hidden from them anymore.)

> Violet, you have brought to memory a chain of events that i never

> knew happened, events that are critical to evidence the authenticity

> and powers of Shri Mataji. Future generations will marvel and pay

> homage to those who strived so hard against the odds to lay the

> foundation of Her Divine Message. i am indeed fortunate to have you.

> Or is it that She is using Her instruments to complete Her task?

(i had forgotten all about this memory... until now. It looks like and feels

like a Divine Drama of which Shri Matjai is obviously in charge, and at the

right time She seems to be bringing up the next piece of the missing puzzle. i

have realised that She is Mahamaya. She says enigmatic things, which a person

completely forgets because it is not understood, and then it comes up and hits

you " smack in the face " at a later date. Btw... i really did not mean to call

the evidence " wishy-washy " . No evidence or Words of SM are " wish-washy " . The

word i should have used was " obscure " but i could not think of it at the time. i

think SM is using all Her Surrendered Instruments in this Divine Play. Chandra,

Kyyan, Chuck, and others too on this forum are a part of that. 'That said'... i

can only thank you in Silence for what you have said).

violet

, " jagbir

singh " <adishakti_org wrote:

>

> , " Violet "

> <violet.tubb@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Jagbir,

> >

> > Thank you for your email:

> >

> > /message/6604

> >

> > i have a better understanding of the great responsibility that you

> > and your wife have, since you have actually explained that it has

> > been revealed that both Kash and Lalita are angels. You and your

> > wife are blessed indeed, and so are we, who believe in angels.

> >

>

> Thank you Violet for expressing the outpouring of joy that Shri