The ceaseless chatter of catches and cures conditions and condemns them to such

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, pallawi <pallawip

wrote:

> >

> > (Pallawi, you are confusing me here. i think you are saying that

> > you are giving bandhans for what seem to you like selfish

> > reasons to do so, and yet you say that < you need to do so

> > anyway. i don't quite understand this. Can you please explain so

> > that i can understand better what you are saying and i will be

> > happy to try and help.)

> >

>

> well, I am asking WHY should anybody give bandhan when

> everything has to happen by HER will. When on one hand I am

> accepting her Will saying 'you are the doer' then why on other

> hand I am forcing my own desires by giving bandhans to happen it

> in any particular way.

> I am talking about bandhans which are asked by sy to give for

> people in need or the bandhans we give before we start doing

> something.

>

> Thanks Violet for taking time and helping me out to understand

> this tough puzzle yet so easy though.

> It is tough as long as we involve our brains and logical

> thinking into that and it becomes easy as soon as we attain that

> state of enlightenment.I understand that, once I will reach to

> that state there won't be any question left. Until that either I

> should try not to use my funny logics or try to accept certain

> things as hypothesis.

>

> Last Friday I read this excerpt of Shrimataji and decided not to

> think too logically. So in a way my question no more requires any

> further clarification but would be happy if you can share your

> thoughts and knowledge.

>

> Jai Shri Mataji

> Pallawi

>

>

>

>

> pallawi <pallawip wrote:

> I often think and wonder about this and still in search of an

> answer.

>

> When I say with great affirmation that 'You are the doer and You

> are the enjoyer' which to me means that everything that happens in

> my life and around me (mahamaya )is done by HER and definitely for

> good whatever I understand the depth of goodness and significance

> or not. The success and failures,the happiness and pain .......

> everything is indeed the prasad (gift) from my mother.

>

> Then why I need to give 'bandhans' for things I do? As I think

> giving bandhan does mean that i want some sort of success in the

> task/HER attention /want in a particular way.But why ? If I am

> just HER instrument and whatever has to happened is HER Will ?

>

 

Dear Pallawi,

 

Giving bandhans to do things is like using lemons and chillies to

cure catches. These are for newcomers who enter the Sahaja Yoga

kindergarten classes. At this early stage it is the best aid

available to focus their attention - have you seen how children are

fascinated by toys and put so much attention of them? The same goes

for all external rituals which are mere aids to help focus attention.

 

But as you progress you will soon realize that what really helps to

do anything or cure catches is attention ............ and nothing

else. i must emphasize _as you progress_ because i do not want daily

footsoaking or shoebeating SYs to think they are included. Even if

you are putting bandhans know that you are still in kindergarten

because such conditionings obscure the spiritual progress of using

the immensely effective attention of the thoughtless state to solve

all problems. As long as you use external rituals this far superior

method will always be under-utilized.

 

And all your most difficult and complex questions will be answered

in this thoughtless state. Once you have attained and sustained it,

and merged with the Shakti within, there will be nothing to ask. You

will always want to be Silent within as the thoughtless state is the

source of vast spiritual powers. You absolute need it to first heal

and stabilize this fragmented human mind. So throw away all

kindergarten lemons, chillies and questions and learn how to empower

and make yourself your own master. Pallawi, you must end all forms

of external rituals no matter what the subtle system SYs tell you -

this is of utmost importance because i know how fanatical they are.

The sad truth is that despite years they have been unable to use the

thoughtless state as the ceaseless chatter of catches and cures

conditions and condemns them to such a life.

 

As Violet has correctly said, it will be very enlightening to read

Shri Mataji's teachings below:

 

" All that happens in the thoughtless state is enlightened. Light

never talks. If you switch on the light in the room, the light won't

speak or give you any ideas. It would just make everything visible.

The same is true about the light of thoughtlessness. First become

thoughtless and then doubtless. Then all your doubts go and you know

that there is some power that works. It works very fast and is all

subtle. You will be amazed how it happens. This is also about time. I

never look at a watch. But my real watch is in the thoughtlessness.

 

If you are thoughtless God takes you everywhere as if on his hands.

He makes all arrangements. He knows everything and there is no need

to tell him about anything. But you must see whether you are in the

main stream or not. If you are not in it then you are stuck up

somewhere on the bank; then the current comes and takes you in twice

or thrice, but again you are on the bank. Then you say 'Mataji,

nothing goes smoothly for me'. It won't because you are entangled. "

 

Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi (Nirmala Yoga, 1982)

 

 

" Because this mind, which is just a bubble as I told you and is so

limited that it cannot comprehend the beauty, the glory, and the

expanse of reality. This mind is just a collection of all the

garbage we should say, which we have to somehow or other deny and

tell ourselves that I have to go beyond my mind. This so-called mind

of mine has done no good for me. This 'mind' of mine which has been

all the time controlling me is just like the watch we have made and

which is controlling us or like the computer that controls us. We

have to be careful that we are the ones who have created this mind

and this mind has no business to control us.

 

Now, once your attention goes beyond the mind - only the Sahaja Yogis

will understand this point very clearly. When this mind goes beyond

the thoughts, then the manipulation of the attention is very

important. Then whatever you manipulate means you take this

attention to this or to that. You will be surprised how dynamic you

become, how effective you become and how knowledgeable you become.

Because once you can take this attention to anything you want,

immediately there is light on that issue, on that person, on that

problem and you see how it works out, how it helps. "

 

Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi (21.03.1996, Delhi)