Guest guest Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 Dear All, Shri Mataji often expressed Her appreciation for the poetry of the Sufi poet Rumi... whom She said had the ability to write 'the inexpressible' with such exquisite beauty that it deeply touches people's hearts. Rumi is of Persian heritage and his poetry is widely read all around the world. Therefore i have also appended a URL below this information where you also can read and enjoy his poetry. violet Information on Rumi... " Known to the English-speaking world simply as Rumi, (1207 — 1273 CE) was a 13th century Persian (Tajik) poet, jurist, and theologian. Rumi was born in Balkh (then a city of Greater Khorasan one of the eastern territories of ancient Persia, now part of Afghanistan) and died in Konya (in present-day Turkey). His birthplace and native tongue indicate a Persian heritage. He also wrote his poetry in Persian and his works are widely read in Iran, Afghanistan, Tajikistan, and Turkey. He lived most of his life and produced his works under the Seljuk Empire.[2] Rumi's importance is considered to transcend national and ethnic borders. He has had a significant influence on both Persian and Turkish literature throughout the centuries. His poems have been translated into many of the world's languages and have appeared in various formats. After Rumi's death, his followers founded the Mevlevi Order, better known as the " Whirling Dervishes " , who believe in performing their worship in the form of dance and music ceremony called the sema. " Teachings of Rumi... The general theme of his thoughts, like that of the other mystic and Sufi poets of the Persian literature, is essentially about the concept of Tawheed (unity) and union with his beloved (the primal root) from which/whom he has been cut and fallen aloof, and his longing and desire for reunity. The " Mathnawi " weaves fables, scenes from everyday life, Qur'anic revelations and exegesis, and metaphysics, into a vast and intricate tapestry. Rumi is considered an example of " insani kamil " — the perfected or completed human being. In the East, it is said of him, that he was, " not a prophet — but surely, he has brought a scripture " . Rumi believed passionately in the use of music, poetry and dancing as a path for reaching God. For Rumi, music helped devotees to focus their whole being on the divine, and to do this so intensely that the soul was both destroyed and resurrected. It was from these ideas that the practice of Whirling Dervishes developed into a ritual form. He founded the order of the Mevlevi, the " whirling " dervishes, and created the " Sema " , their " turning " , sacred dance. In the Mevlevi tradition, Sema represents a mystical journey of spiritual ascent through mind and love to " Perfect. " In this journey the seeker symbolically turns towards the truth, grows through love, abandons the ego, finds the truth, and arrives at the " Perfect " ; then returns from this spiritual journey with greater maturity, so as to love and to be of service to the whole of creation without discrimination against beliefs, races, classes and nations. According to Shahram Shiva, one reason for Rumi's popularity is that " Rumi is able to verbalize the highly personal and often confusing world of personal/spiritual growth and mysticism in a very forward and direct fashion. He does not offend anyone, and he includes everyone. The world of Rumi is neither exclusively the world of a Sufi, nor the world of a Hindu, nor a Jew, nor a Christian; it is the highest state of a human being — a fully evolved human. A complete human is not bound by cultural limitations; he touches every one of us. Today Rumi's poems can be heard in churches, synagogues, Zen monasteries, as well as in the downtown New York art/performance/music scene. " According to Professor Majid M. Naini [1], one of the foremost international Rumi scholars who travels the world trying to spread Rumi's universal message of love, Rumi's life and transformation provide true testimony and proof that people of all religions and backgrounds can live together in peace and harmony throughout the world. At Rumi's grand funeral procession Jews, Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, nd Sufis cried and mourned in a manner that one would have thought that Rumi belonged to each one of them. Rumi's visions, words, and life teach us how to reach inner peace and happiness so we can finally stop the continual stream of hostility and hatred and achieve true global peace and harmony. In other beautiful verses in Mathnavi, Rumi describes in detail the universal message of love. For example, he states: Love's nationality is separate from all other religions, The lover's religion and nationality is the Beloved (God). The lover's cause is separate from all other causes Love is the astrolabe of God's mysteries.[9] " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jalal_al- Din_Muhammad_Rumi#Teachings_of_Rumi Poetry of Rumi... http://www.rumi.net/rumi_by_shiva.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 Didn't I Tell You Didn't I tell you not to go to that place? It is me, who is your intimate friend. In this imaginary plain of non-existence, I am your spring of eternal life. Even if you lose yourself in wrath for a hundred thousand years, at the end you will discover, it is me, who is the culmination of your dreams. Didn't I tell you not to be satisfied with the veil of this world? I am the master illusionist, it is me, who is the welcoming banner at the gate of your contentment. Didn't I tell you? I am an ocean, you are a fish; do not go to the dry land, it is me, who is your comforting body of water. Didn't I tell you not to fall in this trap like a blind bird? I am your wings, I am the strength in your wings, I am the wind keeping you in flight. Didn't I tell you that they will kidnap you from the path? They will steal your warmth, and take your devotion away. I am your fire, I am your heartbeat, I am the life in your breath. Didn't I tell you? They will accuse you of all the wrongdoings, they will call you ugly names, they will make you forget it is me, who is the source of your happiness. Didn't I tell you? Wonder not, how your life will turn out, how you will ever get your world in order, it is me, who is your omnipresent creator. If your are a guiding torch of the heart, know the path to that house. If you are a person of God, know this, It is me, who is the chief of the village of your life. Above poems are from Shahram Shiva's book Hush Don't Say Anything to God: Passionate Poems of Rumi (Jain Publishing) http://www.rumi.net/rumi_by_shiva.htm , " Violet " <violet.tubb wrote: > > Dear All, > > Shri Mataji often expressed Her appreciation for the poetry of the Sufi poet Rumi... whom She said had the ability to write 'the inexpressible' with such exquisite beauty that it deeply touches people's hearts. Rumi is of Persian heritage and his poetry is widely read all around the world. Therefore i have also appended a URL below this information where you also can read and enjoy his poetry. > > violet > > > Information on Rumi... > > " Known to the English-speaking world simply as Rumi, (1207 — 1273 CE) was a 13th century Persian (Tajik) poet, jurist, and theologian. > > Rumi was born in Balkh (then a city of Greater Khorasan one of the eastern territories of ancient Persia, now part of Afghanistan) and died in Konya (in present-day Turkey). His birthplace and native tongue indicate a Persian heritage. He also wrote his poetry in Persian and his works are widely read in Iran, Afghanistan, Tajikistan, and Turkey. He lived most of his life and produced his works under the Seljuk Empire.[2] > > Rumi's importance is considered to transcend national and ethnic borders. He has had a significant influence on both Persian and Turkish literature throughout the centuries. His poems have been translated into many of the world's languages and have appeared in various formats. > > After Rumi's death, his followers founded the Mevlevi Order, better known as the " Whirling Dervishes " , who believe in performing their worship in the form of dance and music ceremony called the sema. " > > > Teachings of Rumi... > > The general theme of his thoughts, like that of the other mystic and Sufi poets of the Persian literature, is essentially about the concept of Tawheed (unity) and union with his beloved (the primal root) from which/whom he has been cut and fallen aloof, and his longing and desire for reunity. > > The " Mathnawi " weaves fables, scenes from everyday life, Qur'anic revelations and exegesis, and metaphysics, into a vast and intricate tapestry. Rumi is considered an example of " insani kamil " — the perfected or completed human being. In the East, it is said of him, that he was, " not a prophet — but surely, he has brought a scripture " . Rumi believed passionately in the use of music, poetry and dancing as a path for reaching God. For Rumi, music helped devotees to focus their whole being on the divine, and to do this so intensely that the soul was both destroyed and resurrected. It was from these ideas that the practice of Whirling Dervishes developed into a ritual form. He founded the order of the Mevlevi, the " whirling " dervishes, and created the " Sema " , their " turning " , sacred dance. In the Mevlevi tradition, Sema represents a mystical journey of spiritual ascent through mind and love to " Perfect. " In this journey the seeker symbolically turns towards the truth, grows through love, abandons the ego, finds the truth, and arrives at the " Perfect " ; then returns from this spiritual journey with greater maturity, so as to love and to be of service to the whole of creation without discrimination against beliefs, races, classes and nations. > > According to Shahram Shiva, one reason for Rumi's popularity is that " Rumi is able to verbalize the highly personal and often confusing world of personal/spiritual growth and mysticism in a very forward and direct fashion. He does not offend anyone, and he includes everyone. The world of Rumi is neither exclusively the world of a Sufi, nor the world of a Hindu, nor a Jew, nor a Christian; it is the highest state of a human being — a fully evolved human. A complete human is not bound by cultural limitations; he touches every one of us. Today Rumi's poems can be heard in churches, synagogues, Zen monasteries, as well as in the downtown New York art/performance/ music scene. " According to Professor Majid M. Naini [1], one of the foremost international Rumi scholars who travels the world trying to spread Rumi's universal message of love, Rumi's life and transformation provide true testimony and proof that people of all religions and backgrounds can live together in peace and harmony throughout the world. At Rumi's grand funeral procession Jews, Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, nd Sufis cried and mourned in a manner that one would have thought that Rumi belonged to each one of them. Rumi's visions, words, and life teach us how to reach inner peace and happiness so we can finally stop the continual stream of hostility and hatred and achieve true global peace and harmony. > > In other beautiful verses in Mathnavi, Rumi describes in detail the universal message of love. For example, he states: > > Love's nationality is separate from all other religions, > The lover's religion and nationality is the Beloved (God). > The lover's cause is separate from all other causes > Love is the astrolabe of God's mysteries.[9] " > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jalal_al- > Din_Muhammad_Rumi#Teachings_of_Rumi > > > Poetry of Rumi... > > http://www.rumi.net/rumi_by_shiva.htm > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 Dear All, Rumi thought that his friendship with another person gave him his experience of 'Self' and it was not until his friend disappeared and Rumi searched for him for two years to no avail... that Rumi came to the realisation that: " Why should I seek? I am the same as he. His essence speaks through me. I have been searching for myself! " It was a revelation for Rumi when he realised that it was his " Self " that he had been searching for... all along! We all search for something that eludes us. We look for it everywhere, yet do not even realise 'what it is' that we are searching for. It is the Spirit-Self that we are searching for! This Spirit-Self is our " Beloved " . This Spirit-Self is Brahman who is more near and dear to us than any 'other' can be! Here are some expressions of spiritual yearning for the Beloved who is Brahman: " Draw near to God (Brahman) and He will draw near to you. " (James 4:8) (Addressed to Brahman): " Oh draw near to my soul and redeem it! " (Psalms 69:18a) " But when these things begin to take place, straighten up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is " drawing near " . (Luke 21:28) (Here Jesus speaks of 'drawing near' to One's Spirit, to Brahman. 'Lifting the head' refers to 'having one's Spirit lifted up to the Kingdom of God within which is at the 'head'... at Sahasrara.) " And I... if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to My Self (to Brahman). " (Jesus's Words... John 12:32) (Shri Jesus created the Space for Ascension of human beings by opening up the Gate to the Kingdom of God within human beings. This opened-up-space is referred to as " The Narrow Gate " by Christians... and the Agnya Chakra by Hindus. Jesus was indeed 'lifted up from the earth' and He did open up that 'Narrow Gate'. Moreover He resides at that 'Narrow Gate' (Agnya Chakra) within the spiritual temple of all human beings. It is from there that He draws all men to His " Self " ... to Brahman! It must be obvious by now who this " My Self " that Jesus refers to really is: " It is Brahman (God)! violet " There is no doubt that Shams al-Din Tabrizi was not just a Sufi master for Rumi. Jalal al-Din had already practiced Sufism for many years before meeting Shams al-Din. It seems, rather, that Shams al-Din had a spiritual influence on him. Rumi was the type of Sufi who needed spiritual companionship in order to express himself in words. The companionship that Shams al-Din provided, was so powerful that it transformed the sober teacher Rumi, into an ecstatic poet. The first poem ever written by Rumi is in a letter to Shams, and from the time of their encounter until Rumi's death, the latter never ceased to compose poetry. The spiritual, friendship between these two towering figures is rare in the history of Sufism and has become proverbial in the East. Harassed by some of the disciples, who had become jealous of the fact that Jalal al-Din spent all of his time with Shams, the latter left Konya. Rumi became so distressed that he sent him many letters and messages containing his first poems in Persian and Arabic and finally, after having discovered that he was in Damascus, sent his own son Sultan Walad after him. Shams finally accepted to return to Konya, he stayed at Rumi's home and again the mystical conversation began, leading to a renewed jealousy among some of Rumi's disciples. On the night of December 5, 1248, as Rumi and Shams were talking, Shams was called to the door. He went out, and was never seen again. It is believed that he was murdered. The mystery of his absence engulfed Rumi's world and he searched for him for two years travelling as far as Damascus, but to no avail. It was there that he came to the following realization: Why should I seek? I am the same as he. His essence speaks through me. I have been searching for myself! " http://www.artarena.force9.co.uk/rumi.htm , " Violet " <violet.tubb wrote: > > Didn't I Tell You > > Didn't I tell you > not to go to that place? > It is me, who is your intimate friend. > In this imaginary plain of non-existence, > I am your spring of eternal life. > > Even if you lose yourself in wrath > for a hundred thousand years, > at the end you will discover, > it is me, who is the culmination of your dreams. > > Didn't I tell you > not to be satisfied with the veil of this world? > I am the master illusionist, > it is me, who is the welcoming banner at the gate of your contentment. > > Didn't I tell you? > I am an ocean, you are a fish; > do not go to the dry land, > it is me, who is your comforting body of water. > > Didn't I tell you > not to fall in this trap like a blind bird? > I am your wings, I am the strength in your wings, > I am the wind keeping you in flight. > > Didn't I tell you > that they will kidnap you from the path? > They will steal your warmth, > and take your devotion away. > I am your fire, I am your heartbeat, > I am the life in your breath. > > Didn't I tell you? > They will accuse you of all the wrongdoings, > they will call you ugly names, > they will make you forget > it is me, who is the source of your happiness. > > Didn't I tell you? > Wonder not, how your life will turn out, > how you will ever get your world in order, > it is me, who is your omnipresent creator. > > If your are a guiding torch of the heart, > know the path to that house. > If you are a person of God, know this, > It is me, who is the chief of the village of your life. > > > > Above poems are from Shahram Shiva's book > Hush Don't Say Anything to God: Passionate Poems of Rumi > (Jain Publishing) > > http://www.rumi.net/rumi_by_shiva.htm > > > , > " Violet " <violet.tubb@> wrote: > > > > Dear All, > > > > Shri Mataji often expressed Her appreciation for the poetry of the > Sufi poet Rumi... whom She said had the ability to write 'the > inexpressible' with such exquisite beauty that it deeply touches > people's hearts. Rumi is of Persian heritage and his poetry is widely > read all around the world. Therefore i have also appended a URL below > this information where you also can read and enjoy his poetry. > > > > violet > > > > > > Information on Rumi... > > > > " Known to the English-speaking world simply as Rumi, (1207 — 1273 > CE) was a 13th century Persian (Tajik) poet, jurist, and theologian. > > > > Rumi was born in Balkh (then a city of Greater Khorasan one of the > eastern territories of ancient Persia, now part of Afghanistan) and > died in Konya (in present-day Turkey). His birthplace and native > tongue indicate a Persian heritage. He also wrote his poetry in > Persian and his works are widely read in Iran, Afghanistan, > Tajikistan, and Turkey. He lived most of his life and produced his > works under the Seljuk Empire.[2] > > > > Rumi's importance is considered to transcend national and ethnic > borders. He has had a significant influence on both Persian and > Turkish literature throughout the centuries. His poems have been > translated into many of the world's languages and have appeared in > various formats. > > > > After Rumi's death, his followers founded the Mevlevi Order, better > known as the " Whirling Dervishes " , who believe in performing their > worship in the form of dance and music ceremony called the sema. " > > > > > > Teachings of Rumi... > > > > The general theme of his thoughts, like that of the other mystic > and Sufi poets of the Persian literature, is essentially about the > concept of Tawheed (unity) and union with his beloved (the primal > root) from which/whom he has been cut and fallen aloof, and his > longing and desire for reunity. > > > > The " Mathnawi " weaves fables, scenes from everyday life, Qur'anic > revelations and exegesis, and metaphysics, into a vast and intricate > tapestry. Rumi is considered an example of " insani kamil " — the > perfected or completed human being. In the East, it is said of him, > that he was, " not a prophet — but surely, he has brought a > scripture " . Rumi believed passionately in the use of music, poetry > and dancing as a path for reaching God. For Rumi, music helped > devotees to focus their whole being on the divine, and to do this so > intensely that the soul was both destroyed and resurrected. It was > from these ideas that the practice of Whirling Dervishes developed > into a ritual form. He founded the order of the Mevlevi, the > " whirling " dervishes, and created the " Sema " , their " turning " , sacred > dance. In the Mevlevi tradition, Sema represents a mystical journey > of spiritual ascent through mind and love to " Perfect. " In this > journey the seeker symbolically turns towards the truth, grows > through love, abandons the ego, finds the truth, and arrives at the > " Perfect " ; then returns from this spiritual journey with greater > maturity, so as to love and to be of service to the whole of creation > without discrimination against beliefs, races, classes and nations. > > > > According to Shahram Shiva, one reason for Rumi's popularity is > that " Rumi is able to verbalize the highly personal and often > confusing world of personal/spiritual growth and mysticism in a very > forward and direct fashion. He does not offend anyone, and he > includes everyone. The world of Rumi is neither exclusively the world > of a Sufi, nor the world of a Hindu, nor a Jew, nor a Christian; it > is the highest state of a human being — a fully evolved human. A > complete human is not bound by cultural limitations; he touches every > one of us. Today Rumi's poems can be heard in churches, synagogues, > Zen monasteries, as well as in the downtown New York art/ performance/ > music scene. " According to Professor Majid M. Naini [1], one of the > foremost international Rumi scholars who travels the world trying to > spread Rumi's universal message of love, Rumi's life and > transformation provide true testimony and proof that people of all > religions and backgrounds can live together in peace and harmony > throughout the world. At Rumi's grand funeral procession Jews, > Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, nd Sufis cried and mourned in > a manner that one would have thought that Rumi belonged to each one > of them. Rumi's visions, words, and life teach us how to reach inner > peace and happiness so we can finally stop the continual stream of > hostility and hatred and achieve true global peace and harmony. > > > > In other beautiful verses in Mathnavi, Rumi describes in detail the > universal message of love. For example, he states: > > > > Love's nationality is separate from all other religions, > > The lover's religion and nationality is the Beloved (God). > > The lover's cause is separate from all other causes > > Love is the astrolabe of God's mysteries.[9] " > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jalal_al- > > Din_Muhammad_Rumi#Teachings_of_Rumi > > > > > > Poetry of Rumi... > > > > http://www.rumi.net/rumi_by_shiva.htm > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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