Guest guest Posted October 14, 2006 Report Share Posted October 14, 2006 > > , " saarthak_vats " > <saarthakvats@> wrote: > > > > Jai Shri Mataji Violet and Jagbir, > > > > Violet your post described little(which was at the end) about the > > heading " The Goal is Collective Consciousness; not 'Catch' > > Consciousness... " > > Please elaborate this topic, I would really like to know in > > detail regarding this thing, coz I myself have not been able to > > understand what exactly collective conciousness means/is ? How > > can it be understood and realised..? What is our shortcoming in > > realising it? > > > > With thanks & regards > > Saarthak > > > > , " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org wrote: > > Dear Saarthak, > > The overwhelmingly 'Catch' consciousness of SYs is part and parcel > of the Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion. Our leaders swear by it, > WCASY enforces it, and those SYs who follow them are in a permanent > state of daily catches (subtle system blocks/diseases). Like > the 'born sinners' of Christianity our priesthood condition SYs to > believe they will always be 'catching' .......... and this utterly > false belief perpetuates the catch consciousness that forms deep > guilt groves in the mind. .... thus the need for miracle cures. > > Over the years and decades this has spawned a hugely successful > enterprise of innovative treatments that have nothing to do with > Shri Mataji's teachings or approval. The sheer stupidity of so- > called self-realized souls indulging in fanatical, useless rituals > boggles the intelligent and balanced mind. For SYs blessed (as they > believe or want to despite knowing they will be diseased for life) > or cursed (as i know for a fact by being catch-free for years) by > the 'Catch' Consciousness of the SYSSR, the Physics of Collective > Consciousness will make little sense. How can anyone suffering from > acute ADD of ceaseless chatter of catches and cures constantly > tormenting them ever hope to attain the Silence and attention > needed to understand a far deeper and liberating knowledge? > > jagbir > The Physics of Collective Consciousness " To establish the proper context and assess the significance of the phenomenon, I gathered here a whole list of collective consciousness effects. Allport (1961) noted, that among developing children, the sense of other humans develops much earlier than the sense of self- identity. I suggest that this 'social primacy' is related to the frequently observed " emotional fertilisation " in kindergartens. Children cry and laugh even if they do not have any motive except that in their close environment somebody else acts in the same way. The phenomenon of " noise-ecstasy " usually appears among adolescent people, in classrooms. " In the age of adolescence whole classrooms become involved in the 'mass state', which is a state which developing through mutual emotional infection. On these occasions the whole classroom become crazy, they make incredible noises, dance wild dances, rhythmically move, or simply produce a wild chaos. Every pupil participates in the orgy of the upheaval, even those ones, who are not inclined to behave that way within normal conditions and who immediately after the event regret having acted so " (Clauss, Hiebsch, 1964 ). Kurt Tepperwein notes that hypnosis becomes more effective if it is applied in groups, as a consequence of " spiritual infection " and imitation of the others (Tepperwein, 1977). The increase in the number of already hypnotised people facilitates the hypnosis of the next one. This phenomenon suggests the existence of a collective field. Large number of people (tens of thousands of people) were involved in epidemics of psychoses on several occasions and for long times (years) (Farkaslaki, 1939) in the medieval age. Similar occasions took place in the modern era, such as tarantism, demonopathy, dancing mania, mass hysteria (Smelser, 1962), mental epidemics, 'mass psychogenic illnesses' (see the recent review of Bartholomew, 1994). The transference of the anomalous behaviour was described as when the number of people showing the anomalous behaviour reached a certain threshold, the behaviour spread much more easily (Turner and Killian, 1972; Miller, 1985). The " Reutler-effect " shows that the contraction of the muscles of a person may enhance the contraction of the muscles of another person from a distance (Reutler, 1928). Stefán Figar (1959) showed that bodily changes related to special mental activities may easily be transferred to other people independently of their knowledge about each others' actions. " The Physics of Collective Consciousness by Attila Grandpierre The Physics of Collective Catch Consciousness " To establish the proper context and assess the significance of the phenomenon, I gathered here a whole list of collective catch consciousness effects. Allabort (1981) noted, that among developing subtle system SYs, the sense of others catching develops much earlier than the sense of self-realization (that Shakti is Self). I suggest that this 'social primacy' is related to the frequently observed " guilt fertilisation " in SY kindergartens. SYs catch daily and cry for cures even if they do not have any reason for behaving such except that in their close environment somebody else acts in the same way. The phenomenon of " latest-treatment-ecstasy " usually appears among adult SYs, in collectives. " In the age of being your own master whole SY collectives have unfortunately become involved in the 'mass state', which is a mad state developing through mutual catch infection. On these occasions whole collectives become crazy, they make incredible noises (of sturdy shoes and heavy sandals beating poor Mother Earth sore), dance wild dances (with burning ajwan and incense to facilitate lusty-Mooladhara clearing), rhythmically move (in joyous delusion), or simply produce wild chaos (with rumours that bhoots, baddhas, UPIs, bats and spiders are attacking collectives in hordes). Every SY leader and their follwers participates in the orgy of the upheaval, even those ones, who are not inclined to behave that way within normal conditions and who immediately after the event regret having acted so " (Claus, Santa, 1964 ). Kurt Tupperware notes that catch conditioning becomes more effective if it is applied in groups to leaders, as a consequence of " spiritual infection " and imitation of the others (Tupperware, 1977). The increase in the number of already hypnotised catch conscious SY leaders facilitates the hypnosis of the next generation of seekers. This phenomenon suggests the existence of a collective field. Large number of people (tens of thousands of people) were involved in epidemics of catch psychoses on several occasions and for long times (years) during the Blossom Time when it was claimed that Shri Bhagavati was wielding Her Cosmic Shield to protect SYs (Gregoire Kalbermatten 1981). Similar occasions took place in the modern era, such as tarantism, demonopathy, dancing mania, mass hysteria (Smeller, 1992), mental epidemics, 'mass psychogenic illnesses' (see the recent review of Bart Simpson, 1994). The transference of the anomalous behaviour was described as when the number of people showing the anomalous behaviour reached a certain threshold, the behaviour spread much more easily (Tina Turner and Killer Kowlaski, 1992; Miller Lite, 1995). The " Reutler-effect " shows that the contraction of the catch muscles of a person may enhance the contraction of the catch muscles of another person from a distance (Reuters, 1988). Stefán Cigar (1989) showed that bodily catches related to special mental catch conscious activities may easily be transferred to other people independently of their knowledge about each others' actions. " The Physics of Collective Catch Consciousness by Dr. Jagbir Singh Grandpa (Ph.D) References: What will save the sanity of subtle system SYs? /message/6739 , " Saarthak Vats " <saarthakvats wrote: > > Jai Shri Mataji Everyone. > > Through this mail I wanted to draw your attention towards one > thing : The Sahaj Material being circulated through emails. > > There are many material which we pass on to fellow Sahaj Yogis, > which we recieve from someone else (thorugh emails), but before > doing that checking the vibrations of the material is not our > general habit... > > I am writing this to particulary draw your attention towards a > treatment technique which is very much circulating nowadays > through emails, which is : " KARMA TREATMENT " . I am attaching the > document which describes the technique of this treatment. The > truth is that this kind of treatment DOES NOT EXIST !! It has > NEVER been DESCRIBED BY SHRIMATAJI !! > > This was VALIDATED by Dr. Madhur Rai, the Incharge of Washi > Hospital. My mother recently came back from a 10 day stay at > Washi. Before going to Washi she was also doing this treatment > (which I passed it to her in my ignorance because I also recieved > through email ). After reaching there when she met Dr. Rai and > told her that she was doing this treatment, Dr. Rai CLEARLY said > that THERE IS NO SUCH TREATMENT !!! Further Dr. Rai said that > there are many such materials on the internet being circulated > which are not mentioned by Shri Mataji... > > If you think logically, when we say that " I am a Spirit " & > " Mother you are the doer and the enjoyer " . This means that we > realise that we are Spirit and Mother does everything, and for a > Spirit there are no Karmas. Spirit is Nirmal... > Dear All, For years i have been trying to bring sanity to the treatment and ritual obsessed SYs, warning that many treatments are just conjectured innovations. The ceaseless collective chatter of catches and cures is the virus that has spread this infectious disease. Now it is an epidemic and probably mutated beyond hope of any cure. But there is absolutely no need to do any treatment if you only allow the Mother Kundalini to heal, using just the attention of your thoughtless state to rid yourself of any problem - ANY PROBLEM! This Karma Treatment is just the tip of the iceberg. So what will save the sanity of subtle system SYs? ............. Nothing! You can only save your own by seeing no treatment, hearing no treatment, speaking no treatment, following no treatment and giving no treatment. Let the subtle system SYs mutilate, brutalize and rape all Her teachings to their heart's content. Let them destroy themselves and the organization with all this nonsense that repels normal humans. Let them turn themselves into constantly sick, catching and almost mad treatment fanatics that will starve their collectives and ashrams of sane seekers. All you need to do is just meditate on the Adi Shati within. Just be patient and witness the insanity that grips the subtle system fanatics. Let Shri Mataji destroy all the negativity that prevents Her Divine Message from reaching humanity. One day this will be all over and we will have normal, ritual-free seekers meditating on the Adi Shakti within. They will do so solely to take part in the Last Judgment and Resurrection. They will be their own masters because we will make sure they will have all the knowledge and help to do so right from the beginning! That process has already been put into motion with this forum and archives. Jai Shri Ganapathi, jagbir http://www.adishakti.org/forum/archives.htm --------- Karma Treatments It is recommended to do the Three-Candle-Treatment while doing the Karma Treatment: 1. Candle behind the left Swadisthana 2. Candle behind the Backagnya 3. Candle in front of the left hand Sit down in front of Mother´s picture and put another picture behind the candle at the Backagnya. (protocol: do Namaskar to the picture, pull your ears, because your turning your back to Shri Mataji.) With the attention in the Sahasrara and the r. hand at the Backagnya say the Maha Ganesha Mantra 21 times. To avoid the counting one can also go with the attention 3 times through all the 7 chakras. After that, hit your Backagnya with the right hand 108 times. Put all the 5 fingertips of your right hand together and press them hard at the point between the neck and the head where the spine starts (right underneath the Backagnya, called the UPPERMOOLADHARA): first: Om Twamewa Sakshat Shri Ekadesha Rudra Sakshat all spells and curses, the usage of negative symbols, magic and magic rituals, false mantras etc., which were used by my grandparents, relatives, parents and siblings (7 generations back) and that are weighing heavily on my karma Mardini Sakshat Shri Adi Shakti Mataji Shri Nirmal Devi Namoh Namah Om Twamewa Sakshat Shri Ekadesha Rudra Sakshat all hatred, desire for revenge and unjust actions of siblings, relatives, parents and grandparents ( 7 generations back), that are weighing heavily on my karma Mardini Sakshat Shri Adi Shakti Mataji Shri Nirmala Devi Namoh Namah Om Twamewa Sakshat Shri Ekadesha Rudra Sakshat all initiation rituals of christian churches or false gurus like baptism etc., all negative symbols and ceremonies with negative effect, that in this or in previous lives my grandparents, parents, siblings and relatives participated in (7 generations back) and that are therefore weighing heavily on my karma. Mardini Sakshat Shri Adi Shakti Mataji Shri Nirmala Devi Namoh Namah Om Twamewa Sakshat Shri Ekadesha Rudra Sakshat all experiences of shock, traumas and disappointment that my siblings, parents, relatives and grandparents experienced due to persecution, humiliation, torture, violence or other terrible incidents and that are therefore weighing heavily on my karma. Mardini Sakshat Shri Adi Shakti Mataji Shri Nirmal Devi Namoh Namah Om Twamewa Sakshat Shri Durga Sakshat Tarakasura Mardini Sakshat Shri Adi Shakti Mataji Shri Nirmala Devi Namoh Namah ( Nazi negativity, aggressiveness) Om Twamewa Sakshat Shri Durga Sakshat Nishumba Shumba Mardini Sakshat Shri Adi Shakti Mataji Shri Nirmala Devi Namoh Namah (false christian churches) Om Twamewa Sakshat Shri Durga Sakshat Bandhasura Mardini Sakshat Shri Adi Shakti Mataji Shri Nirmala Devi Namoh Namah (attachments, ties) Om Twamewa Sakshat Shri Durga Sakshat Mahisasura Mardini Sakshat Shri Adi Shakti Mataji Shri Nirmala Devia Namoh Namah (lethargy) 4 times the following affirmations: (don´t forget all miscarriages and all children, that died early) MOTHER, please forgive my ancestors everything that they did wrong knowingly or unknowingly against the Divine; MOTHER, please forgive all my greatgrandmothers on my mother´s side 7 generations back everything that they have done wrong knowingly or unknowingly against the Divine and set their souls free. MOTHER, please forgive all my greatgrandfathers on my mother´s side 7 generations back everything that they have done wrong knowingly or unknowingly against the Divine and set their souls free. MOTHER, please forgive all my greatgrandmothers on my father´s side 7 generations back everything that they have done wrong knowingly or unknowingly against the Divine and set their souls free. MOTHER, please forgive all my greatgrandfathers on my mother´s side 7 generations back everything that they have done wrong knowingly or unknowingly against the Divine and set their souls free. MOTHER, please forgive my grandfather........., grandmother...............(name) (also siblings of grandfather, grandmother) ….. MOTHER, please forgive my father (name) …. MOTHER, please forgive my mother……. MOTHER, please forgive my sister/ brother (name) ........... MOTHER, please forgive my spouse…….. MOTHER, please forgive my children (name)………. MOTHER, please forgive all my relatives ………. (with the relatives always name the uncles and aunts, especially those who died early (war, accident, suicide etc.) or where there have been close bonds, or bad incidents happening. Also a cousin of the father, who was a priest, could cause a migraine. This karma effects our consciousness very intensely. Don´t forget the godfather or godmother of church rituals like baptism or confirmation etc. MOTHER, please forgive all people in my home..........(town, state, country) (you can add specific incidents in your own country´s history like wars, mass murders, persecution, holocaust, etc… and name that also) MOTHER, please forgive all Europeans what they have done with their imperialistic conquests all over the world.... MOTHER, please forgive me and wash out everything, which was written as my karma in the heavens and give me the power to forgive. Stay in meditation for some time. It can be very effective to do this treatment for a few days in a row. 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