Guest guest Posted October 20, 2006 Report Share Posted October 20, 2006 > > (Only senior SY Aunty Shaku's timely warning to stay indoors for 24 > hours during last year's Diwali as the Gates of Hell were left open > by Shri Yama tops the 2005 officially approved news. i later came > to know that Yama complained that he never had a day off, and > walked off the job in protest on Diwali. But please don't quote me > on this because that would piss Aunty Shaku since she was not > privy to such sensitive information. In the event she does find > out i can assuage her hurt feelings by pointing to the fact that > 99% of SYs never had the IQ to question this officially supported > statement.) > /message/6104 i do not know how many memebrs of the officially recognised divinesahajayoga group did not venture out last Diwali. Since this year's Diwali is just round the corner will Aunty Shaku care to share her distress disease with the rest of the group? Since she practically swears by the sheer folly and extreme danger of venturing outdoors on Diwali, is she going to win the 2006 honors too, although the Karma Treatment should give tough competition? /message/6739 /message/6742 i have a strong mental itch that Aunty Shaku is the author of the Karma Treatment due to official recognition of her gifted ability to conjecture treatments for anything that ails SYs. If this is the case then it is a no contest and we will have to crown her the 2006 winner for guiding and enlightening SYs. And WCASY/SY leadership can bask in that glory for showering their blessings on divinesahajayoga where Aunty Shaku reigns supreme as the chief in-house CAT-Scan (Catches And Treatments Scaning) consultant. i am really impressed with the official drive to spread Sahaja Yoga to all corners of the world. We truly need more Aunty Shakus. jagbir > > , " kriptodanny " > > wrote: > > > > More crazy...insanity advise from Aunty Shaku!!!!! > > > > ,,You raise kundalini take bandhan. Light 3 candles + 1 > > Diya before Shri Mataji's photo. Take 3 lighted > > candles you put 1 front of your left palm, 2nd near > > left hip to clear left Swadhistan, 3rd you keep Near > > back agnya at the back of your head position then with > > 4th candle keep raising Kundalini. Do this treatment > > for 15 minutes say mantra " Om Twameva Sakshat Shri > > Mahakali, Shri Bhairavnath, Shri St. Mycle Sakshat > > Shri Adishakti Mataji Shri Nirmaladevi Namo Namah. " > > Also if you suffering from Bhoot' catch then you need > > to move as bhoot move from place to place i.e. you > > need to chase him with lighted candle till you clear > > out. (This treatment used in S.Y. mainly for Cancer & > > extre left sided problem such as depresion etc.,) > > > > For reducing overweight if you are fat then you keep 1 > > lighted candle put 1 front of your left palm & left > > hand on the ground say Mantra " Om Twameva Sakshat > > Shri Mahakali, Shri Bhairavnath, Shri St. Mycle > > Sakshat Shri Adishakti Mataji Shri Nirmaladevi Namo > > Namah " . This one told by Shri Mataji when I asked Her > > overweight problem of my niece. Jai Shri Mataji. > > Aunty Shaku > > > my2pai wrote: > > " my2pai " > Wed, 26 Oct 2005 12:35:01 -0000 > Re: You need to chase him with > lighted candle(Aunty Shaku advise) > > Hello everybody, > > Aunty Shaku and her ilk are nothing new in Sahaja Yoga, they have > been around since time immemorial. People of this caliber have > been a pestilence and a menace to other Sahaja Yogis since the > earliest days. In fact Shri Mataji was so perturbed by this > species of Yogi that She actually warned against such idiocity in > a Guru Puja speech. Below is the relevant except from Guru Puja, > England, 24th July, 1983. > > " ...But some people are so funny that they start using me as a > quotation, 'Mother has said everybody must fast.' I told somebody > that 'You better fast,' so a thin man comes next day fainting. I > say, 'What happened?' When I say something to a particular person > they just circulate it because they think, 'Why should I fast > alone? Everybody must fast!' It's a big problem that they always > quote me. Nobody should quote me to others, that's one thing > important. Whatever you have to say you put it on a notice board, > maybe with my signature, better, for general. And for particular, > whatever I say you should do it for a person. At least that much > discretion you all should have. And try, you'll be very much > helped. You'd be surprised you'll be very much helped. Because > everything is for your betterment and a special grace if you > understand the essence of protocol. " > > Chandra > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 Dear All, Shri Mataji has long ago warned against trying bizarre new methods in Sahaja Yoga, see excerpt below. According to Shri Mataji, these yogis who conjure up new techniques and treatments could be very sinister people who are liable to get into trouble and become mad. In a sense, the current lunacy among Sahaja Yogis over catches and treatments and techniques that has engulfed the whole Sahaja collective was probably what Shri Mataji had in mind when She issued the warning back in 1985. Shri Mataji could possibly foresee then that Sahaja Yogis would one day be totally hung up and fixated by catches, treatments and cures and completely miss the point of being one with the Self, the Spirit, the Shakti. " Now you have jumped on to that awareness where you have just to be steady. So don't try at this point something new, just steady yourself. " Yes, let us get back to the fundamentals, let us stick to the fundamentals. Chandra " So you all people should also understand that don't try new things in Sahaja Yoga; Sahaja Yoga is a traditionally built thing, don't try anything new in Sahaja Yoga. Whatever we have is more than sufficient, you don't try anything new. People who tried new things have jumped into problems, so do not try something new. Like somebody says that, nowadays I heard in London we had some people who started giving lectures and giving new methods of Sahaja Yoga suddenly; and they all went mad. I mean, their vibrations were crazy, I didn't know what to do with them. I was quite surprised, I said, " Why did you try a new method like that, what was the need to try a new method? " They said, " We thought better try this. " But I said, " I have already told you all the methods, have you tried them, have you perfected yourselves, better try those which I've told you. " And then you can ask me and then start something new. But you must understand what you are doing. And also I've seen mediocre Sahaja Yogis always do like that, try some new method and they'll come out with this thing, " Now, I'll tell you how to circulate your breath. " Why, to circulate your breath? Suddenly they'll find out a new method; is a common thing, but these are sometimes could be very sinister people also. So be careful; there is no need to try new methods. Now you have jumped on to that awareness where you have just to be steady. So don't try at this point something new, just steady yourself. Steady yourself in balance, that's very important. " (Devi Puja, San Diego, May 31st, 1985) , " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org wrote: > > > > > (Only senior SY Aunty Shaku's timely warning to stay indoors for 24 > > hours during last year's Diwali as the Gates of Hell were left open > > by Shri Yama tops the 2005 officially approved news. i later came > > to know that Yama complained that he never had a day off, and > > walked off the job in protest on Diwali. But please don't quote me > > on this because that would piss Aunty Shaku since she was not > > privy to such sensitive information. In the event she does find > > out i can assuage her hurt feelings by pointing to the fact that > > 99% of SYs never had the IQ to question this officially supported > > statement.) > > > /message/6104 > > > i do not know how many memebrs of the officially recognised > divinesahajayoga group did not venture out last Diwali. Since this > year's Diwali is just round the corner will Aunty Shaku care to > share her distress disease with the rest of the group? Since she > practically swears by the sheer folly and extreme danger of > venturing outdoors on Diwali, is she going to win the 2006 honors > too, although the Karma Treatment should give tough competition? > > /message/6739 > /message/6742 > > i have a strong mental itch that Aunty Shaku is the author of the > Karma Treatment due to official recognition of her gifted ability to > conjecture treatments for anything that ails SYs. If this is the > case then it is a no contest and we will have to crown her the 2006 > winner for guiding and enlightening SYs. And WCASY/SY leadership can > bask in that glory for showering their blessings on divinesahajayoga > where Aunty Shaku reigns supreme as the chief in-house CAT-Scan > (Catches And Treatments Scaning) consultant. i am really impressed > with the official drive to spread Sahaja Yoga to all corners of the > world. We truly need more Aunty Shakus. > > jagbir > > > > > , " kriptodanny " > > > wrote: > > > > > > More crazy...insanity advise from Aunty Shaku!!!!! > > > > > > ,,You raise kundalini take bandhan. Light 3 candles + 1 > > > Diya before Shri Mataji's photo. Take 3 lighted > > > candles you put 1 front of your left palm, 2nd near > > > left hip to clear left Swadhistan, 3rd you keep Near > > > back agnya at the back of your head position then with > > > 4th candle keep raising Kundalini. Do this treatment > > > for 15 minutes say mantra " Om Twameva Sakshat Shri > > > Mahakali, Shri Bhairavnath, Shri St. Mycle Sakshat > > > Shri Adishakti Mataji Shri Nirmaladevi Namo Namah. " > > > Also if you suffering from Bhoot' catch then you need > > > to move as bhoot move from place to place i.e. you > > > need to chase him with lighted candle till you clear > > > out. (This treatment used in S.Y. mainly for Cancer & > > > extre left sided problem such as depresion etc.,) > > > > > > For reducing overweight if you are fat then you keep 1 > > > lighted candle put 1 front of your left palm & left > > > hand on the ground say Mantra " Om Twameva Sakshat > > > Shri Mahakali, Shri Bhairavnath, Shri St. Mycle > > > Sakshat Shri Adishakti Mataji Shri Nirmaladevi Namo > > > Namah " . This one told by Shri Mataji when I asked Her > > > overweight problem of my niece. Jai Shri Mataji. > > > Aunty Shaku > > > > > > my2pai wrote: > > > > " my2pai " > > Wed, 26 Oct 2005 12:35:01 -0000 > > Re: You need to chase him with > > lighted candle(Aunty Shaku advise) > > > > Hello everybody, > > > > Aunty Shaku and her ilk are nothing new in Sahaja Yoga, they have > > been around since time immemorial. People of this caliber have > > been a pestilence and a menace to other Sahaja Yogis since the > > earliest days. In fact Shri Mataji was so perturbed by this > > species of Yogi that She actually warned against such idiocity in > > a Guru Puja speech. Below is the relevant except from Guru Puja, > > England, 24th July, 1983. > > > > " ...But some people are so funny that they start using me as a > > quotation, 'Mother has said everybody must fast.' I told somebody > > that 'You better fast,' so a thin man comes next day fainting. I > > say, 'What happened?' When I say something to a particular person > > they just circulate it because they think, 'Why should I fast > > alone? Everybody must fast!' It's a big problem that they always > > quote me. Nobody should quote me to others, that's one thing > > important. Whatever you have to say you put it on a notice board, > > maybe with my signature, better, for general. And for particular, > > whatever I say you should do it for a person. At least that much > > discretion you all should have. And try, you'll be very much > > helped. You'd be surprised you'll be very much helped. Because > > everything is for your betterment and a special grace if you > > understand the essence of protocol. " > > > > Chandra > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 Dear All, i remember Shri Mataji reiterating that saying of " cleansing is next to godliness " and agreeing that is true. However, if we closely look at that saying... " cleansing " is only " next to " godliness. It is not godliness itself. However, if someone gets confused and starts to believe that " cleansing IS godliness " then they will do more and more cleansing, because they believe that is how they will become godly. So they will try new methods of cleansing, thinking that more and more advanced cleansing methods will perchance make them godly. Cleansing is not how to become godly though. So, this is how it all becomes crazy, obsessive and fanatical. The Truth is Godliness only comes by being " one with the Self, the Spirit, the Shakti " . This is what Shri Mataji has taught, and this is also what is the Truth. There is no other Way. violet , " my2pai " <my2pai wrote: > > Dear All, > > Shri Mataji has long ago warned against trying bizarre new methods > in Sahaja Yoga, see excerpt below. According to Shri Mataji, these > yogis who conjure up new techniques and treatments could be very > sinister people who are liable to get into trouble and become mad. > > In a sense, the current lunacy among Sahaja Yogis over catches and > treatments and techniques that has engulfed the whole Sahaja > collective was probably what Shri Mataji had in mind when She issued > the warning back in 1985. Shri Mataji could possibly foresee then > that Sahaja Yogis would one day be totally hung up and fixated by > catches, treatments and cures and completely miss the point of being > one with the Self, the Spirit, the Shakti. > > " Now you have jumped on to that awareness where you have just to be > steady. So don't try at this point something new, just steady > yourself. " Yes, let us get back to the fundamentals, let us stick to > the fundamentals. > > Chandra " So you all people should also understand that don't try new things > in Sahaja Yoga; Sahaja Yoga is a traditionally built thing, don't > try anything new in Sahaja Yoga. Whatever we have is more than > sufficient, you don't try anything new. People who tried new things > have jumped into problems, so do not try something new. Like > somebody says that, nowadays I heard in London we had some people > who started giving lectures and giving new methods of Sahaja Yoga > suddenly; and they all went mad. I mean, their vibrations were > crazy, I didn't know what to do with them. I was quite surprised, I > said, " Why did you try a new method like that, what was the need to > try a new method? " They said, " We thought better try this. " But I > said, " I have already told you all the methods, have you tried them, > have you perfected yourselves, better try those which I've told > you. " And then you can ask me and then start something new. But you > must understand what you are doing. And also I've seen mediocre > Sahaja Yogis always do like that, try some new method and they'll > come out with this thing, " Now, I'll tell you how to circulate your > breath. " Why, to circulate your breath? Suddenly they'll find out a > new method; is a common thing, but these are sometimes could be very > sinister people also. So be careful; there is no need to try new > methods. Now you have jumped on to that awareness where you have > just to be steady. So don't try at this point something new, just > steady yourself. Steady yourself in balance, that's very important. " > > (Devi Puja, San Diego, May 31st, 1985) > , " jagbir singh " > <adishakti_org@> wrote: > > > > > > > > (Only senior SY Aunty Shaku's timely warning to stay indoors for > 24 > > > hours during last year's Diwali as the Gates of Hell were left > open > > > by Shri Yama tops the 2005 officially approved news. i later > came > > > to know that Yama complained that he never had a day off, and > > > walked off the job in protest on Diwali. But please don't quote > me > > > on this because that would piss Aunty Shaku since she was not > > > privy to such sensitive information. In the event she does find > > > out i can assuage her hurt feelings by pointing to the fact that > > > 99% of SYs never had the IQ to question this officially > supported > > > statement.) > > > > > /message/6104 > > > > > > i do not know how many memebrs of the officially recognised > > divinesahajayoga group did not venture out last Diwali. Since this > > year's Diwali is just round the corner will Aunty Shaku care to > > share her distress disease with the rest of the group? Since she > > practically swears by the sheer folly and extreme danger of > > venturing outdoors on Diwali, is she going to win the 2006 honors > > too, although the Karma Treatment should give tough competition? > > > > /message/6739 > > /message/6742 > > > > i have a strong mental itch that Aunty Shaku is the author of the > > Karma Treatment due to official recognition of her gifted ability > to > > conjecture treatments for anything that ails SYs. If this is the > > case then it is a no contest and we will have to crown her the > 2006 > > winner for guiding and enlightening SYs. And WCASY/SY leadership > can > > bask in that glory for showering their blessings on > divinesahajayoga > > where Aunty Shaku reigns supreme as the chief in-house CAT-Scan > > (Catches And Treatments Scaning) consultant. i am really impressed > > with the official drive to spread Sahaja Yoga to all corners of > the > > world. We truly need more Aunty Shakus. > > > > jagbir > > > > > > > > , " kriptodanny " > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > More crazy...insanity advise from Aunty Shaku!!!!! > > > > > > > > ,,You raise kundalini take bandhan. Light 3 candles + 1 > > > > Diya before Shri Mataji's photo. Take 3 lighted > > > > candles you put 1 front of your left palm, 2nd near > > > > left hip to clear left Swadhistan, 3rd you keep Near > > > > back agnya at the back of your head position then with > > > > 4th candle keep raising Kundalini. Do this treatment > > > > for 15 minutes say mantra " Om Twameva Sakshat Shri > > > > Mahakali, Shri Bhairavnath, Shri St. Mycle Sakshat > > > > Shri Adishakti Mataji Shri Nirmaladevi Namo Namah. " > > > > Also if you suffering from Bhoot' catch then you need > > > > to move as bhoot move from place to place i.e. you > > > > need to chase him with lighted candle till you clear > > > > out. (This treatment used in S.Y. mainly for Cancer & > > > > extre left sided problem such as depresion etc.,) > > > > > > > > For reducing overweight if you are fat then you keep 1 > > > > lighted candle put 1 front of your left palm & left > > > > hand on the ground say Mantra " Om Twameva Sakshat > > > > Shri Mahakali, Shri Bhairavnath, Shri St. Mycle > > > > Sakshat Shri Adishakti Mataji Shri Nirmaladevi Namo > > > > Namah " . This one told by Shri Mataji when I asked Her > > > > overweight problem of my niece. Jai Shri Mataji. > > > > Aunty Shaku > > > > > > > > > my2pai wrote: > > > > > > " my2pai " > > > Wed, 26 Oct 2005 12:35:01 -0000 > > > Re: You need to chase him with > > > lighted candle(Aunty Shaku advise) > > > > > > Hello everybody, > > > > > > Aunty Shaku and her ilk are nothing new in Sahaja Yoga, they > have > > > been around since time immemorial. People of this caliber have > > > been a pestilence and a menace to other Sahaja Yogis since the > > > earliest days. In fact Shri Mataji was so perturbed by this > > > species of Yogi that She actually warned against such idiocity > in > > > a Guru Puja speech. Below is the relevant except from Guru Puja, > > > England, 24th July, 1983. > > > > > > " ...But some people are so funny that they start using me as a > > > quotation, 'Mother has said everybody must fast.' I told > somebody > > > that 'You better fast,' so a thin man comes next day fainting. I > > > say, 'What happened?' When I say something to a particular > person > > > they just circulate it because they think, 'Why should I fast > > > alone? Everybody must fast!' It's a big problem that they always > > > quote me. Nobody should quote me to others, that's one thing > > > important. Whatever you have to say you put it on a notice > board, > > > maybe with my signature, better, for general. And for > particular, > > > whatever I say you should do it for a person. At least that much > > > discretion you all should have. And try, you'll be very much > > > helped. You'd be surprised you'll be very much helped. Because > > > everything is for your betterment and a special grace if you > > > understand the essence of protocol. " > > > > > > Chandra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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