Guest guest Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 Dear All, One of the jobs of Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi... " the Christian Comforter " ... is to clarify things. In the excerpt below Shri Mataji clarifies that Apostle Paul is not a realised soul, but is 'into the supraconscious'. i have heard Shri Mataji say that Paul made Christians look quite mad, with the speaking in tongues... and all that. We can see this same 'madness of Paul' in Pentecostal Churches today! Pentecostals believe that " speaking in tongues " is a sign that a person has received their Baptism of the Holy Spirit. i have heard Shri Mataji say this " speaking in tongues business " ... actually happens when a minister puts a wrong spirit into a person. This is a spiritual danger, not unlike false gurus in India like Rajneesh who also put a wrong spirit into a person and make them jump around and do funny things also! Shri Jesus, though... plainly taught what is the sign of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, and this is the Cool Breeze or Wind of the Holy Ghost, as the disciples of Christ also experienced on the Day of Pentecost. In regards to this 'Wind'... Jesus taught: " The wind blows where it wishes and you hear the sound of it, but do not know where it comes from and where it is going; so is everyone who is born of the Spirit. " (John 3:8) One thing that is important to note, is that Shri Jesus says that EVERYONE that is born of the Spirit, will feel the wind. He does not just say his disciples will feel it; He says EVERYONE WHO IS BORN OF THE SPIRIT... will feel this wind... folks!!! Therefore, christians are wise to avoid Apostle Paul's example of aberrant behaviour that is not comely for a realised soul. Could you imagine Shri Jesus jumping around and doing what we see in Pentecostal Churches today? No! Jesus was very dignified. There was none of that. Pauline Christianity is not Jesus the Christ's Teachings... folks. But the best thing is to study Jesus's Words only, and follow them. Plus other Incarnations will agree also, because all prophets and Incarnations from God... obviously have to agree. Otherwise, they would not be from the Same Source! Here then, is what Shri Mataji says about the person She refers to as 'Mr. Saint Paul': " In the Bible the mistake came when Saint Paul, who never knew Christ-he had nothing to do with Christ-just entered into the Bible. I don't know, why he is there. He was not a realised soul. He was just (a) supraconscious Roman soldier. Roman, very bad soldier, who used to kill so many Christians. And suddenly they entered this Mr. Saint Paul into it and he is accepted in the Bible all over the world. But you read him and you will know he is not a realised soul at all. He talks in a supraconscious way. He is an organising machine and he is good for nothing. There he describes, in the acts you see, which he has written-many people may not be knowing that acts has been written by Mr. Paul himself-and this Mr. Paul tries to describe the disciples of Christ as supraconscious bhoots, absolutely like supraconscious people and they behaved in such a funny manner that every body started feeling that they are mad. Can you imagine, Christ's disciples behaving like that! But you have to gulp it down and devour everything if you are a Christian. Because it is in the Bible. And you start questioning if you are a born-realised person, that what is this non-sense, who is this Mr. Paul? From where does he come in? Because he does not talk like Christ. " (Agnya Chakra - Delhi, India - 3/2/83) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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