Guest guest Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 > > This incident is evidence that Shri Mataji does not talk to Sir CP > as has been claimed by WCASY and himself. It is just not true as > She has stopped talking due to the medication administered to Her. > Shri Mataji used to be a prolific talker who literally spent the last three decades traversing and criss-crossing the globe every year in an effort to enlighten humanity. We all know the prodigious time and effort spent by Her in talking with fellow human beings, sometimes for hours at end. She promised to spread Sahaja Yoga before attaining Mahasamadhi. Then a minor incident in April 2003 snowballed into what we have today. Shri Mataji, then an octogenarian, had some hallucinations. It ended with Her being given an anti-psychotic drug Risperidone. Since being given medication She has not communicated with any person in any meaningful way over the last three years. i thought the medication was the cause of Her inability to talk. However today i have realized that is NOT THE CASE! Risperidone does not silence the patient. " Side Effects RISPERDAL® (risperidone) is generally safe and effective for treating the symptoms of schizophrenia. With any medication, some people have side effects and some don't. If you have any side effects with RISPERDAL, or feel you're not getting better, please talk to your doctor. The most common side effects that may occur with RISPERDAL are: anxiety, sleepiness, restlessness, tremors, and muscle stiffness; dizziness, constipation, nausea, indigestion, runny nose, rash, and rapid heartbeat. Studies suggest an increased risk of elevated blood sugar-related side effects, and sometimes potentially fatal, in patients treated with this class of medications, including RISPERDAL. Some people may need regular blood sugar testing. Some people taking RISPERDAL may feel faint or lightheaded when they stand up or sit up too quickly. By standing up or sitting up slowly and following your doctor's dosing instructions, this side effect may be reduced or it may go away over time. You may have heard the term " extrapyramidal symptoms (EPS). " These are usually reversible movement disorders or muscle disturbances, such as restlessness, tremors, and muscle stiffness. Some people taking RISPERDAL have these side effects. In clinical studies, these side effects were uncommon at lower doses, but did increase with higher doses. If you have these symptoms, talk to your doctor. You may have heard the term " tardive dyskinesia. " These are potentially irreversible, uncontrollable, slow or jerky facial or body movements that can be caused by all medications of this type (antipsychotics). If you have these symptoms, talk to your doctor. Only your doctor should adjust your dose or stop your medication. " www.risperdal.com/ So why is Shri Mataji so silent for so long? It is as if Shri Mahamaya is playing a game with those who have boldly hijacked Her Will and now raised and praised Sir CP to be the incarnation of Shri Shiva. Sir Shiva, in return for such a blessing, has empowered WCASY to act as judge, jury and executioner. Violet has raised a very troubling point that also pricked my conscience: " Here then is the advice given from the person of whom Shri Mataji wrote: " Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. " (http://www.adishakti.org/images/sm_1998_letter.JPG) When you read what he advised... i am sure it will become clear why Shri Mataji told us not to listen to him: Sir CP: " One thing I want to mention - World Council - is that She (Shri Mataji) desires for me to convey to you that the World Council is the highest authority in Sahaja Yoga, representing Her will. And this will be, the World Council, will be the final deciding authority in Sahaja Yoga collectives. There should be no doubt about that. That is Her will, and on behalf of Her, the World Council will be acting. Is that clear to everyone? That is Her will and She asked me to convey this, and I am conveying it to you. The final authority is the World Council. Everything else emanates from the World Council. Whatever decision is to be taken, the World Council takes, because that is Her will. The Council represents Her will. Alright? So there should be no confusion in future. That has been decided. Thereafter, what happens where is a matter for the World Council to decide. We have now to move forward, carry forward the message and act on that basis. " http://www.sahajayoga.org/swan/view/swan_512_2006.asp /message/6321?threaded=1 & l=1 " The T-square formations between Moon-Mars, Venus, Jupiter and Neptune, indicate that some of the plans of Mataji might be hindered by obstructive activities of evil and negative forces. Also Mataji might have to steer through conflicting loyalties and aims, of some of her so-called followers who are enemies in disguise. But despite all this, she will find her way to the goal of her life, viz., universal Self-Realization! " . /message/6321 That brings us back to the same question: But why is Shri Mataji silent for so long and continues to bear witness to the official orgies of the copulating parties tightly locked in embrace in their lust for power and self-aggrandizement? But then She promised to spread Sahaja Yoga before attaining Mahasamadhi. i know Her deafening silence has begun raising outsiders who will complete that task, and continue long after She has left. Shri Mataji has steered through the conflicting loyalties and aims of some of her so-called followers who are enemies in disguise. Despite all this, She has found the way to the goal of Her life, viz., universal Self-Realization! There is nothing WCASY or Sir Shiva can do to stop Her now. It does not matter anymore if Sir Shiva does not agree to uphold the truth of www.adishakti.org and www.al-qiyamah.org which Dr. B presented and made clear to him in a lengthy letter that called for his unconditional duty towards Shri Mataji. It is obvious that WCASY and Sir Shiva work hand in glove to suppress Shri Mataji’s Divine Message to humanity, and both have made clear their intentions and we have evidence. The Adi Shakti, both within and without, knows that neither WCASY nor Sir CP is interested in propagating Her incarnation and Message. i know deep in my heart that Shri Mataji did not summoned Dr. B to examine Her ear. In Her silence She has exposed all those who work against Her, specifically her husband Sir Shiva. She also laid bare the boldness and blasphemy humans are capable of, acts they would shuddered of committing when She was in Her element. Perhaps this was to be Her final act to expose the negativity that has overwhelmed the Sahaja Yoga organization. Perhaps all this is a harbinger of the trials and tribulations to be faced by the faithful, concerend and conscientious after She departs. Remember the supreme devotion (parabhakti) She has described? That is your only sanctuary now ............. seek Her within! Jagbir Note: John Noyce, please sent a copy of this email to WCASY and Sir Shiva. , " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org wrote: > > > Dear Xxxxxx, > > Thank you for this 'shocking' mail. i did not know Sir CP is now > regarded as Shiva. Shri Mataji never ever even once hinted that her > husband was in any way divine. On the contrary, She did lament that > even Her own family (husband and children) do not recognize Her. > How come now when Shri Mataji is old, drugged and incapacitated we > start hearing of things She never said? i.e., words are put in Her > mouth because She refuses to say so on Her own. > > So maybe we will have to wait for Sir C P to officially announce > that he is Shiva. Perhaps then WCASY can request SYs to start > meditating on his lotus feet too. > > regards, > > jagbir > > > Note: i just realized that WCASY's Sir Shiva has a serious > credibility problem that will now haunt all of them. It is as if > Shri Mataji knew what was coming and gifted the guilty parties with > enough rope to hang all who participated in this terrible > transgression and blasphemy despite Shri Mataji's explicit > instructions: " Specially my husband has no right over my body and > any advice from him should not be accepted at all " . > > Why do i have this feeling that WCASY's Sir Shiva will need a lot > of smoke and mirrors to pull this off?............. sorry, i forgot > wool for SYs. But does Sir C P know he has been elevated to Shiva > by WCASY, perhaps without his knowledge or consent? WCASY is more > sinister than we think ............... and time will tell. > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > i read Shri Mataji's 1998 letter again and compared it with Her > > previous chakra notes. Even with the brief notes i found that > > letters " a, b, d. h. m, n, r, y " matched in both documents i.e., > > there is no need for a handwriting expert. By all means Shri > > Mataji did write the letter below to all SYs and is no forgery. > > So what did She declare to all SYs? > > > > > > To whomsoever it may concern > > > > I want to state that nobody has any right on my body, without my > > permission I should not be treated by any doctor vidya or any > > other person. > > > > Specially my husband and my family members should not at all have > > any say in my sickness, no one has to admit me in any hospital. > > Even Sahaja Yogis cannot admit me to the hospital or treat me or > > arrange any doctor for treatment for me. > > > > I want to declare that my family should never never admit me in > > the hospital. Specially my husband has no right over my body and > > any advice from him should not be accepted at all. In short I do > > not want to be admitted in any hospital by anyone. > > > > Before my death I will write what is to be done with my body. > > > > sg. Mataji Nirmala Devi > > Mrs. Nirmala Srivastava > > 10th. Dec 1998 > > > > http://www.adishakti.org/images/sm_1998_letter.JPG > > > > > > Dear Jagbir, > > Jai Shri Mataji! We're so glad to have been told about your Shri > Adishakti website because it has been very difficult and frustrated > of not being able to express our views in these past two years due > to the total control of the Sahaj official website and national > websites around the world by WCASY and their followers. > > My husband and I, who have been in Sahaj for more than 20 years, > truly admire you and your family for having such tremendous courage > and inner strength to stand up for the Truth and sticking to your > principles because we also have been subjected to similar fate as > you have been through in the past 3 years. We also have great > admiration for those true yogis like Sergei, Guido, Derek, Al > Ganesh, Henry Ho, the late Dr. Harald Knobel, Avinash and several > more of my true brothers and sisters, whose characters have been > tarnished, vilified and defamed publicly around the world in recent > years by WCASY and their followers. How many times have Shri Mataji > talked of Love? It is so apparent that after all these years > they've never felt God's love in their heart and this is why so > many of them have fallen in the spider's web. > > However much they try to attack and discredit me, they can never > ever ever destroy my spirit, my faith and my love for Shri Mataji > which are a permanent fixture in my heart! I must say, there have > been times when the attacks they inflicted upon me was so > horrendous that it has posed risk to my health and danger to me > and my family, I thought I would not be able to last any longer. > My survival through this awful time only comes from the > protection, guidance and love of Shri Mataji and using clearing > and cleansing techniques which She has recommended to us on a > regular basis. She would come into my dreams regularly before, > during or after an attack either to forewarn, to indicate, to > soothe, to advice, to love, to correct or to reassure me. > > My family and I withdrew from the collective which has nothing to > do of how we've been treated, but it has to do of how they, > disgustingly, have been treating our Holy Divine Mother, God > Almighty, Shri Adi Shakti for the past 3 and a half years. Often I > would cry my eyes out and feel so ashamed of us as human beings who > have been giving the greatest blessing of all and look at what > they've done in the name of God. They violate Her Divine body by > silen(cing) Her with this anti-psychotic drug, they parade Her > around without any respect for Her physical well being, they have > group photos taken with Shri Mataji in order to pamper their ego, > they totally disregard all protocols which are needed to be > observed for Shri Adi Shakti, they anointed and pontificated Sir C > P and claimed publicly that Shri Mataji speaks through him and > that he is Shiva, they sanctified Kalpina and Sadna by using shri > before their names, they show photo of Sir C P's feet in the > official website, they praised Sir C P by chanting " Bolo, shri > papaji qui jay! " at the last Diwali puja, and finally, the > ultimate sin committed against Shri Mataji is that they are doing > their utmost to destroy by politicising, organising and distorting > the teachings and works of God Almighty! > > Shri Mataji has said that She is the Adi Shakti and She is the only > Incarnation on this earth, are they deaf or what? For all the years > we've been in Sahaj, of course we've great respect Sir C P and his > family, we never once regarded them as SYs. The only member of the > family who is a SY was Shri Mataji's beloved brother, BabaMama. I > would like to ask if anybody has witnessed any members of the > family worship, meditate and bow to Shri Mataji at pujas in all > these years? > > I know that those who are now considered as 'outsiders' will > continue carrying the divine flame of Shri Mataji's and no one on > this earth, particularly the WCASY and their followers, can stop us > from spreading the True Message of our Holy Divine Mother. Gregoire > had mentioned about fear in us, but do they have fear of the wrath > of God? > > Jagbir, we'll keep in touch. > > Love, > > Xxxxxxx > Sir CP had no right to make public Shri Mataji's medical health and file Dear Xxxxxxx, i consider Sir C P's divulging of Shri Mataji's medical health and history to all SY leaders as one of the greatest misfortune in Sahaja Yoga history. Such matters were supposed to be strictly confidential that, in order to be made public, required the express permission of Shri Mataji due to the highly damaging and explosive nature of the medical file. WHAT INFORMATION IS SUBJECT TO PROTECTIONS CONCERNING MEDICAL RECORD CONFIDENTIALITY? Any information about you, whether in electronic or physical form, regarding your medical history, mental or physical condition, or treatment is subject to California laws protecting your medical record confidentiality. WHAT DOES AN AUTHORIZATION FORM FOR RELEASE OF MY MEDICAL RECORDS HAVE TO INCLUDE TO BE VALID? To be valid, an authorization form used by health care providers, HMOs and health care contractors must: Be handwritten by you (or your authorized representative signing the authorization form) or be typewritten in no smaller than 8-point type. Be clearly separate from any other language on the same page and have a line for your signature that serves no purpose other than to authorize the release of your information. Be signed by one of the following: -- you, the patient, -- your legal representative if you are a minor or incompetent, -- the beneficiary or personal representative of a deceased patient, -- or your spouse or person financially responsible for you for the sole purpose of processing an application for health care insurance or enrollment in a health care service plan or employee benefit plan when you are to be an enrolled spouse or dependent under the policy or plan. -- Specify the uses and limitations on the types of medical information to be disclosed, -- Specify the name or functions of the health care provider that may disclose the information, -- State the name or functions of the persons or entities authorized to receive the medical information, -- State the specific uses and limitations on the use of the medical information by the persons or entities authorized to receive the medical information, -- State a specific date after which the health care provider is no longer authorized to disclose your medical record information, and -- State that you have a right to receive a copy of the authorization.12 CAN MY DOCTOR OR HMO RELEASE MY MEDICAL RECORDS WITHOUT MY CONSENT? Yes, but only in certain limited situations when necessary to provide you with appropriate health care. Your doctor or HMO is required to release your medical record information, even without your written authorization, to the following: A court pursuant to a court order. A board, commission, or administrative agency for purposes of resolving a dispute pursuant to its lawful authority. A party to a proceeding before a court or administrative agency pursuant to an investigative subpoena. An arbitrator or arbitration panel, when arbitration is lawfully requested by either party pursuant to a subpoena. A government law enforcement agency pursuant to a search warrant http://www.calpatientguide.org/iii.html None of the above conditions or reasons were met. Yes, some SYs may wonder why am i saying it only now. Well, i was under the impression that the 10th. Dec 1998 letter of Shri Mataji was a forgery i.e., She never wrote it. Only lately i realized that She did in fact write it and Her instructions were crystal clear and unequivocal. If WCASY had sided with Her instead of Sir CP, or at least got Her express permission first for medical treatment and release of information, the present crisis would not have come. After all, how difficult was it for them to ask Shri Mataji on probably Her most important personal desire? WCASY seems to have all the time and luxury to ask 1001 mundane questions but not concerning Her express written order!!!??? How many of you would want your medical file be made public without your permission? This reeks of a most frightening negativity and foul play! So SYs now think that WCASY's claim that Shri Mataji speaks through Sir CP is true and that he is Shiva? Let me tell you something to the contrary. Last year a SY ENT expert, Dr. B, was summoned to Genoa, Italy by Sir CP to treat Shri Mataji's ear as She is hard of hearing. At the appointed hour Dr. B met Sir CP and Shri Mataji. Dr. B asked Shri Mataji if She wanted to be treated. There was no reply from Her. Then Dr. B again asked in a louder voice if he could examine Her. Again Shri Mataji remained silent. It was then when Sir CP told Dr. B to go ahead as She had agreed. Dr. B was quite shocked by Sir CP's insincerity since Shri Mataji never gave any verbal hint or physical gesture that She can be examined. Dr. B then silently asked Her for forgiveness as he was about to perform an ear examination without Her permission. This incident is evidence that Shri Mataji does not talk to Sir CP as has been claimed by WCASY and himself. It is just not true as She has stopped talking due to the medication administered to Her. WCASY's claim that Sir CP is Shiva is just pure fabrication. It was necessary for WCASY to bestow divinity on him as Sir CP holds the de facto power in the organization, not Shri Mataji. She is now reduced to a mere puppet involuntarily holding a rubber stamp that is used by WCASY to endorse and bless any undertaking - from assassinating Guido, poisoning Avinash, garroting Perezhogin to suppressing my websites and demonizing my children. WCASY and their hired hit man Alan Wherry is rumored to have now set the crosshair on Derek Lee. Yes, WCASY claims that all such acts have the blessings of Shri Mataji who 'speaks' through Sir Shiva ................. just ask Dr. B and you will know how much Shri Mataji's talks to Sir CP, in public or private. But the main question is: " Did Sir CP have Shri Mataji's permission to make public Her medical health and file " ? i have the right to ask because WCASY and Sir CP are now putting too many words in Her incapacitated mouth. Their outrageous claim that Sir CP is actually Shiva is the last straw. Tens of thousands of SYs are either too blissfully unaware or unfortunately dull to comprehend what is at stake! It is outsiders like us who have to wake them up. Everything will be alright one day – i am sure too that the darkest hour comes just before dawn. Your Mother Kundalini within is recording all during the Last Judgment! Don't be fooled by humans who claim to be Her Will or Shiva. The Devi within has no partners or spouse. Even Shri Shiva meditates on Her! So do all others - Shri Ganesha, Jesus, Krishna, Radha, Rama, Sita, Brahma, Saraswati, Prophet Muhammad, Guru Nanak, Mahavira, Buddha - and all liberated souls in the Spirit World. So stand your sacred ground and don't budge an inch. Gladly leave the organization to continue on your own but don't ever sell your soul to WCASY or Sir Shiva. Your allegiance and attention at all times must be exclusively, unconditionally and without any question whatsoever on the Adi Shakti, the Devi within: " Now listen attentively about the supreme devotion (parabhakti) which I will now describe to you. He always hears my glories and recites my name. His mind always dwells in me, like the incessant flow of oil, and he is the receptacle of all good qualities and gunas. But he does not have the least trace of any desire to get the fruits of his actions (karma). Indeed, he does not want the various levels of release (moksha), including being on the same plane as God (salokya), nearness to God (samipya), having the form of God (sarsti), union with God (sayujya) and other forms of release. Devi continues noting that true worshipers abandons all concepts of themselves, completely identify themselves with Devi, and make no distinctions between themselves and anything else. Worshipers find Devi in everything, including other souls: He becomes filled with devotion for me alone, worships me only, knows nothing higher than to serve me, and he does not even want final release. He does not like neglecting the notions of " serving " (sevya) and the " servant who serves " (sevaka). He always meditates on me with a constant vigilance, actuated by a feeling of supreme devotion. He does not think of himself as separate from me, but rather thinks to himself, " I am the Lord (Bhagavati). " He considers all souls (jivas) as myself, and loves me as he loves himself. He makes no distinction between the souls and myself since he finds the same pure consciousness (caitanya) everywhere and manifested in all. He does not quarrel with anyone since he has abandoned all ideas of separateness. He bows down and worships the pure consciousness and all the souls. He becomes filled with the highest love when he sees my place, sees my devotees, hears the scriptures, describes my deeds, and meditates on my mantras. His hairs stand on end out of love for me and his tears of love flow incessantly from both of his eyes. He recites my name deeds in a voice that is choked with feelings of love for me. With intense feeling he worships me as the mother of this universe and the cause of all causes. " [Devi Bhagavata Purana, 7.37] Jai Shri Ganapathy, jagbir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 Dear All, Shri Mataji hand-wrote a letter, in which She advised Sahaja Yogis not to listen to " any " advice from her husband. Here is that letter: To Whomsoever It May Concern: " I want to state that nobody has any right on my body, without my permission. I should not be treated by any doctor vidya or any other person. Specially my husband and my family members should not at all have any say in my sickness. No one has to admit me in any hospital. Even Sahaja Yogis can not admit me in the hospital or treat me or arrange any doctor for treatment for me. I want to declare that my family should never admit me in the hospital. Specially my husband has no right over my body and any advice from him should not be accepted at all. In short, I do not want to be admitted in any hospital by anyone. Before my death I will write what is to be done with my body. " (sg. Mataji Nirmala devi - Mrs. Nirmala Srivastava 10th Dec. 1998) http://www.adishakti.org/images/sm_1998_letter.JPG The letter above looks just like a letter a person would write, if they want to be sure that they are treated... " or not treated " according to their own wishes. Shri Mataji seems to be acknowledging in the above letter that She is already having... or will be having 'a sickness'. i imagine a letter like that would not be liked by any husband or family (whoever they are)... yet every individual has exactly that right... to write such a letter, expressing their wishes... if they so please. And... Shri Mataji has such a right too. Just because She also is the Incarnation of the Adi Shakti, does not mean others have rights over Her Body or even over Her Will. In fact, She is clearly asserting in this letter that neither her husband, her family, or Sahaja Yogis have any rights over her body... without Her express permission: " I want to state that nobody has any right on my body, without my permission. " Therefore... in hindsight... perhaps that Drama in Italy was a Drama of Dharma to protect our Mother. i am sure i could hear the rumbling of a Quick Exit all the way from Down Under. i have never seen nor heard of Shri Mataji ever making such a speedy exit... especially when Her Children from Italy and other countries, were just wanting to make sure that Her wish (as per the above letter) was being upheld. Therefore... it would appear, that the benefit of the QUICK EXIT was for WCASY and Co, who of course flew at lightning speed over the Atlantic Ocean into the Sheltering Reprieve of Alan Wherry Country... " USA " . In their happiness at a World First, the Italians were forgotten. What the Italians and others had to say... was dismissed. Any leaders involved... were sacked. The media blitz made the Italians and others " at fault " and made the WCASY look like the Heroes that Rescued Their Mother " . i am sure, according to them... if the Letter were followed, She would not be given medications, unless She approved them... and to WCASY et al... their Worldview appears to be that " no medication for Shri Mataji's sickness spells bodily danger " . i really believe they convinced themselves that they were rescuing Shri Mataji from the Italians. That is how it came across anyway. Here is the letter to " My dear Modi and other Sahaja Yogis " (of which the original was handwritten by SM)... and please pay special attention to Shri Mataji's Worldview of Her Body and what it is meant to undergo for the mission for which it has been taken, and that therefore She is not bothered. She talks about working under anaesthesia... folks. This is not a normal lady... lets face it! She also says that She " never has pains " . This is an official letter which She wanted everyone to see and read, because it gave us Her Bodily Worldview. (However, as Shri Mataji is 'wont to do'... She again hides this information very cleverly " right out in the open " to be discovered... if we " really look " .) Here then is the letter, which She gave to Modi... with the request to " please circulate this letter among all Sahaja Yogis " : My dear Modi and other Sahaja Yogis, Many blessings. Received your letter. I am very glad to know that your Ida Nadi has become clean and I hope, Ida Nadis of all have become clean at least to some extent. Here I had told all that I would work, while under anaesthesia, to clean the Ida channels of all. I worked for 3 days cleaning it by vomiting nearly 50 times every day and it is nice that the cleaning has become possible. This physical being has to be used for the mission for which it has been taken and therefore I am not bothered by the illness and other troubles. On the contrary all such and different experiments with this incarnation will have to be performed. Why are you so anxious about it? What else is the use of this body? I never have any pains. All I want is that, in the laboratory of this body, some work or the other must go on. Time is short while the work to be done is very big. You cannot do the cleaning of Ida channel only on the strength of your realisation. I knew that it had to be cleaned from within. In ancient days all seekers had to do this action (Kriya) constantly right from their childhood at the residences of their gurus at isolated places. The seekers had to do it individually in many lives. Because, now you have attained the state of collectivity I have done it in collective consciousness. Although you say I have done it, the distinction of you and I should not be there in collective consciousness. Mantras ''Twam Bhawani, Twam Durga, Twam Ambika etc.'' are good for Ida Channel, but when you are established in Sahaja Yoga, you will have to say 'Aham Bhavani'. However this Mantra can be said only when your purity becomes one with that of 'Aham Bhavani' and I tell you now itself that this will happen. After cleaning the Ida Channel I am awakening Pingala Nadi. Sahaja Yogis had become rather lethargic due to the conditioning of Ida Channel. Laziness and a tendency of avoiding the work was dominating in them. Their attention was being frittered away on avoiding the work. But I have now started the work of awakening Pingala Channel. All of you should raise your right hand from right side over your head and leave it on the left side but while doing it, you must apply your will power so that your desires will materialize. With the awakening of collectivity, you will have many people to share your work which you are doing alone. The sphere of Sahasrara envelops your heart. When conditioning of heart is reduced, as if the glass of a lamp becomes clean, rays of ever resplendent Spirit awaken Sahasrara sheath and the light of bliss spreads, which is felt in Sahasrara. This light enlightens all sides of colourful heart and decorates it with the qualities which can be described as pleasing, blissful etc. Gradually this state will grow and become stable within you. Most of the Sahaja Yogis should try this method, but there should not be merely the mechanical movement of hands. Whatever you do, it should be done with the faith that you have in worshipping, zeal of a warrior and sensitivity of an artist. There should be complete purity in the recitation of Mantras to awaken the deities and your heart must be involved in it. Only then the awakening will take place. You should understand a simple principle. How can a big fire be lit with a small match stick? Will a wick hold the flame if water is mixed in the oil? How can those Sahaja Yogis have enlightenment who are using Sahaja Yoga to solve only their own petty problems? And why should God give them the enlightenment? Lighthouses do not show light to themselves even for a moment. Therefore, they are considered so important and are looked after. Please circulate this letter among all Sahaja Yogis. Your Mother - NIRMALA So... please note especially these words: " Why are you so anxious about it? What else is the use of this body? I never have any pains. All I want is that, in the laboratory of this body, some work or the other must go on. Time is short while the work to be done is very big. " (End Quote) (Given what Shri Mataji says in these amazing words, and given what She says in the " To Whomsoever It May Concern " letter about not wanting hospitals... it can be seen that the Spirit in the two letters indicate a 'same personality' with a similar 'bodily worldview'. i believe it was not long after that the Big Announcement with the Infamous Response of " OF COURSE! " was recorded. A dramatic Letter of Shri Mataji's that the Italians 'surfaced'... obviously demanded an equally dramatic and unprecedented " OF COURSE " from Shri Mataji. It was amazing how the two words of " Of Course " ... made the world " so right " for WCASY and Co. However, the question needs to be asked: Did those two words of " OF COURSE " also 'make the world right' for Mother? " Because i have a few questions: Why did WCASY not do the right thing and get a Handwriting Expert on the spot to clear any confusion and authenticate the Letter that the Italians claim Shri Mataji wrote? Because as administrators of Sahaja Yoga Organisation, they owe at least 'that much' to Sahaja Yogis worldwide. That they did not 'do so' (that is get a handwriting expert) to verify the Letter... implicates WCASY very much... as not doing the right thing. Now the job of WCASY as administration, is essentially communication: " Leaders should be very careful. They should become free of all arrogance. They are only a communication link, like I have to put a letter in the envelope and post it. " (Gudi Padwa - 24 March, 1993) (Excerpt Australian Sahaja Newsletter - 10 Feb. 1996) However, the communication severely broke down on two counts. The first count was the failure to get a Handwriting Expert to authenticate the Letter. The second, was to flee the country. Am i awake or am i dreaming or am i under some illusion? Because not to get a Handwriting Expert, and to flee the country at breakneck speed. What does that indicate? (rhetorical question) So... 'as already given'... Shri Mataji has stated in Her (regarding her husband) that: " Any advice from him should not be accepted at all " . That was probably the teensy weensy bit in the letter that WCASY hated, and decided the better option was to get out of Italy real fast. So... what is this advice that Shri Mataji said " should not be accepted at all " ? Here it is: Sir CP: " One thing I want to mention - World Council - is that She (Shri Mataji) desires for me to convey to you that the World Council is the highest authority in Sahaja Yoga, representing Her will. And this will be, the World Council, will be the final deciding authority in Sahaja Yoga collectives. There should be no doubt about that. That is Her will, and on behalf of Her, the World Council will be acting. Is that clear to everyone? That is Her will and She asked me to convey this, and I am conveying it to you. " Sir CP: " The final authority is the World Council. Everything else emanates from the World Council. Whatever decision is to be taken, the World Council takes, because that is Her will. The Council represents Her will. Alright? So there should be no confusion in future. That has been decided. Thereafter, what happens where is a matter for the World Council to decide. We have now to move forward, carry forward the message and act on that basis. " (Btw... in between the two paragraphs of Sir C.P.'s was the famous alleged " OF COURSE " from Shri Mataji.) Now... lets remember that Shri Mataji advised us not to listen to any advice that Sir C.P. gave. As Sir C.P. was " giving advice " to which Shri Mataji 'supposedly agreed'... this is proof that Shri Mataji did not know what She was saying 'of course' to. If She knew what She was supposedly saying 'of course' too, She would not have agreed with it. All you have to do is read Her Letter to know She would not have agreed with it: To Whomsoever It May Concern: " I want to state that nobody has any right on my body, without my permission. I should not be treated by any doctor vidya or any other person. Specially my husband and my family members should not at all have any say in my sickness. No one has to admit me in any hospital. Even Sahaja Yogis can not admit me in the hospital or treat me or arrange any doctor for treatment for me. I want to declare that my family should never admit me in the hospital. Specially my husband has no right over my body and any advice from him should not be accepted at all. In short, I do not want to be admitted in any hospital by anyone. Before my death I will write what is to be done with my body. " (sg. Mataji Nirmala devi - Mrs. Nirmala Srivastava 10th Dec. 1998) http://www.adishakti.org/images/sm_1998_letter.JPG Lets also not forget that the astrologers predictions are already coming true: " The T-square formations between Moon-Mars, Venus, Jupiter and Neptune, indicate that some of the plans of Mataji might be hindered by obstructive activities of evil and negative forces. " (End Quote) (This part of the prediction has already come true. WCASY have obstructed knowledge of Shri Mataji's Identity, as well as Her Message of the Last Judgment and Resurrection to the world-at-large. The astrologer's description of " obstructive activities of evil and negative forces " sounds 'spot on' too.) " Also Mataji might have to steer through conflicting loyalties and aims, of some of her so-called followers who are enemies in disguise. " (End Quote) (We have shown how time and again that there are many " so-called-followers " who are not following Shri Mataji's Leading at all. That they are enemies in disguise is becoming very apparent. The episode in Italy, i think, is a prime example. i think this prediction has also already come true.) " But despite all this, she will find her way to the goal of her life, viz., universal Self-Realization! " . /message/6321 violet , " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org wrote: > > > > > This incident is evidence that Shri Mataji does not talk to Sir CP > > as has been claimed by WCASY and himself. It is just not true as > > She has stopped talking due to the medication administered to Her. > > > > Shri Mataji used to be a prolific talker who literally spent the > last three decades traversing and criss-crossing the globe every > year in an effort to enlighten humanity. We all know the prodigious > time and effort spent by Her in talking with fellow human beings, > sometimes for hours at end. She promised to spread Sahaja Yoga > before attaining Mahasamadhi. > > Then a minor incident in April 2003 snowballed into what we have > today. Shri Mataji, then an octogenarian, had some hallucinations. > It ended with Her being given an anti-psychotic drug Risperidone. > > Since being given medication She has not communicated with any > person in any meaningful way over the last three years. i thought > the medication was the cause of Her inability to talk. However today > i have realized that is NOT THE CASE! Risperidone does not silence > the patient. > > " Side Effects > > RISPERDAL® (risperidone) is generally safe and effective for > treating the symptoms of schizophrenia. > > With any medication, some people have side effects and some don't. > If you have any side effects with RISPERDAL, or feel you're not > getting better, please talk to your doctor. > > The most common side effects that may occur with RISPERDAL are: > anxiety, sleepiness, restlessness, tremors, and muscle stiffness; > dizziness, constipation, nausea, indigestion, runny nose, rash, and > rapid heartbeat. > > Studies suggest an increased risk of elevated blood sugar-related > side effects, and sometimes potentially fatal, in patients treated > with this class of medications, including RISPERDAL. Some people may > need regular blood sugar testing. > > Some people taking RISPERDAL may feel faint or lightheaded when they > stand up or sit up too quickly. By standing up or sitting up slowly > and following your doctor's dosing instructions, this side effect > may be reduced or it may go away over time. > > You may have heard the term " extrapyramidal symptoms (EPS). " These > are usually reversible movement disorders or muscle disturbances, > such as restlessness, tremors, and muscle stiffness. Some people > taking RISPERDAL have these side effects. In clinical studies, these > side effects were uncommon at lower doses, but did increase with > higher doses. If you have these symptoms, talk to your doctor. > > You may have heard the term " tardive dyskinesia. " These are > potentially irreversible, uncontrollable, slow or jerky facial or > body movements that can be caused by all medications of this type > (antipsychotics). If you have these symptoms, talk to your doctor. > Only your doctor should adjust your dose or stop your medication. " > > www.risperdal.com/ > > > So why is Shri Mataji so silent for so long? It is as if Shri > Mahamaya is playing a game with those who have boldly hijacked Her > Will and now raised and praised Sir CP to be the incarnation of Shri > Shiva. Sir Shiva, in return for such a blessing, has empowered WCASY > to act as judge, jury and executioner. > > Violet has raised a very troubling point that also pricked my > conscience: > > " Here then is the advice given from the person of whom Shri Mataji > wrote: " Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. " > (http://www.adishakti.org/images/sm_1998_letter.JPG) When you read > what he advised... i am sure it will become clear why Shri Mataji > told us not to listen to him: > > Sir CP: > > " One thing I want to mention - World Council - is that She (Shri > Mataji) desires for me to convey to you that the World Council is > the highest authority in Sahaja Yoga, representing Her will. And > this will be, the World Council, will be the final deciding > authority in Sahaja Yoga collectives. There should be no doubt about > that. That is Her will, and on behalf of Her, the World Council will > be acting. Is that clear to everyone? That is Her will and She asked > me to convey this, and I am conveying it to you. The final authority > is the World Council. Everything else emanates from the World > Council. Whatever decision is to be taken, the World Council takes, > because that is Her will. The Council represents Her will. Alright? > So there should be no confusion in future. That has been decided. > Thereafter, what happens where is a matter for the World Council to > decide. We have now to move forward, carry forward the message and > act on that basis. " > > http://www.sahajayoga.org/swan/view/swan_512_2006.asp > /message/ 6321?threaded=1 & l=1 > > " The T-square formations between Moon-Mars, Venus, Jupiter and > Neptune, indicate that some of the plans of Mataji might be hindered > by obstructive activities of evil and negative forces. Also Mataji > might have to steer through conflicting loyalties and aims, of some > of her so-called followers who are enemies in disguise. But despite > all this, she will find her way to the goal of her life, viz., > universal Self-Realization! " . > > /message/6321 > > That brings us back to the same question: But why is Shri Mataji > silent for so long and continues to bear witness to the official > orgies of the copulating parties tightly locked in embrace in their > lust for power and self-aggrandizement? > > But then She promised to spread Sahaja Yoga before attaining > Mahasamadhi. i know Her deafening silence has begun raising > outsiders who will complete that task, and continue long after She > has left. Shri Mataji has steered through the conflicting loyalties > and aims of some of her so-called followers who are enemies in > disguise. Despite all this, She has found the way to the goal of Her > life, viz., universal Self-Realization! There is nothing WCASY or > Sir Shiva can do to stop Her now. It does not matter anymore if Sir > Shiva does not agree to uphold the truth of www.adishakti.org and > www.al-qiyamah.org which Dr. B presented and made clear to him in a > lengthy letter that called for his unconditional duty towards Shri > Mataji. It is obvious that WCASY and Sir Shiva work hand in glove to > suppress Shri Mataji's Divine Message to humanity, and both have > made clear their intentions and we have evidence. The Adi Shakti, > both within and without, knows that neither WCASY nor Sir CP is > interested in propagating Her incarnation and Message. > > i know deep in my heart that Shri Mataji did not summoned Dr. B to > examine Her ear. In Her silence She has exposed all those who work > against Her, specifically her husband Sir Shiva. She also laid bare > the boldness and blasphemy humans are capable of, acts they would > shuddered of committing when She was in Her element. Perhaps this > was to be Her final act to expose the negativity that has > overwhelmed the Sahaja Yoga organization. Perhaps all this is a > harbinger of the trials and tribulations to be faced by the > faithful, concerend and conscientious after She departs. > > Remember the supreme devotion (parabhakti) She has described? That > is your only sanctuary now ............. seek Her within! > > Jagbir > > > Note: John Noyce, please sent a copy of this email to WCASY and Sir Shiva. > > > > > , " jagbir singh " > <adishakti_org@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Xxxxxx, > > > > Thank you for this 'shocking' mail. i did not know Sir CP is now > > regarded as Shiva. Shri Mataji never ever even once hinted that her > > husband was in any way divine. On the contrary, She did lament that > > even Her own family (husband and children) do not recognize Her. > > How come now when Shri Mataji is old, drugged and incapacitated we > > start hearing of things She never said? i.e., words are put in Her > > mouth because She refuses to say so on Her own. > > > > So maybe we will have to wait for Sir C P to officially announce > > that he is Shiva. Perhaps then WCASY can request SYs to start > > meditating on his lotus feet too. > > > > regards, > > > > jagbir > > > > > > Note: i just realized that WCASY's Sir Shiva has a serious > > credibility problem that will now haunt all of them. It is as if > > Shri Mataji knew what was coming and gifted the guilty parties with > > enough rope to hang all who participated in this terrible > > transgression and blasphemy despite Shri Mataji's explicit > > instructions: " Specially my husband has no right over my body and > > any advice from him should not be accepted at all " . > > > > Why do i have this feeling that WCASY's Sir Shiva will need a lot > > of smoke and mirrors to pull this off?............. sorry, i forgot > > wool for SYs. But does Sir C P know he has been elevated to Shiva > > by WCASY, perhaps without his knowledge or consent? WCASY is more > > sinister than we think ............... and time will tell. > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > i read Shri Mataji's 1998 letter again and compared it with Her > > > previous chakra notes. Even with the brief notes i found that > > > letters " a, b, d. h. m, n, r, y " matched in both documents i.e., > > > there is no need for a handwriting expert. By all means Shri > > > Mataji did write the letter below to all SYs and is no forgery. > > > So what did She declare to all SYs? > > > > > > > > > To whomsoever it may concern > > > > > > I want to state that nobody has any right on my body, without my > > > permission I should not be treated by any doctor vidya or any > > > other person. > > > > > > Specially my husband and my family members should not at all have > > > any say in my sickness, no one has to admit me in any hospital. > > > Even Sahaja Yogis cannot admit me to the hospital or treat me or > > > arrange any doctor for treatment for me. > > > > > > I want to declare that my family should never never admit me in > > > the hospital. Specially my husband has no right over my body and > > > any advice from him should not be accepted at all. In short I do > > > not want to be admitted in any hospital by anyone. > > > > > > Before my death I will write what is to be done with my body. > > > > > > sg. Mataji Nirmala Devi > > > Mrs. Nirmala Srivastava > > > 10th. Dec 1998 > > > > > > http://www.adishakti.org/images/sm_1998_letter.JPG > > > > > > > > > > Dear Jagbir, > > > > Jai Shri Mataji! We're so glad to have been told about your Shri > > Adishakti website because it has been very difficult and frustrated > > of not being able to express our views in these past two years due > > to the total control of the Sahaj official website and national > > websites around the world by WCASY and their followers. > > > > My husband and I, who have been in Sahaj for more than 20 years, > > truly admire you and your family for having such tremendous courage > > and inner strength to stand up for the Truth and sticking to your > > principles because we also have been subjected to similar fate as > > you have been through in the past 3 years. We also have great > > admiration for those true yogis like Sergei, Guido, Derek, Al > > Ganesh, Henry Ho, the late Dr. Harald Knobel, Avinash and several > > more of my true brothers and sisters, whose characters have been > > tarnished, vilified and defamed publicly around the world in recent > > years by WCASY and their followers. How many times have Shri Mataji > > talked of Love? It is so apparent that after all these years > > they've never felt God's love in their heart and this is why so > > many of them have fallen in the spider's web. > > > > However much they try to attack and discredit me, they can never > > ever ever destroy my spirit, my faith and my love for Shri Mataji > > which are a permanent fixture in my heart! I must say, there have > > been times when the attacks they inflicted upon me was so > > horrendous that it has posed risk to my health and danger to me > > and my family, I thought I would not be able to last any longer. > > My survival through this awful time only comes from the > > protection, guidance and love of Shri Mataji and using clearing > > and cleansing techniques which She has recommended to us on a > > regular basis. She would come into my dreams regularly before, > > during or after an attack either to forewarn, to indicate, to > > soothe, to advice, to love, to correct or to reassure me. > > > > My family and I withdrew from the collective which has nothing to > > do of how we've been treated, but it has to do of how they, > > disgustingly, have been treating our Holy Divine Mother, God > > Almighty, Shri Adi Shakti for the past 3 and a half years. Often I > > would cry my eyes out and feel so ashamed of us as human beings who > > have been giving the greatest blessing of all and look at what > > they've done in the name of God. They violate Her Divine body by > > silen(cing) Her with this anti-psychotic drug, they parade Her > > around without any respect for Her physical well being, they have > > group photos taken with Shri Mataji in order to pamper their ego, > > they totally disregard all protocols which are needed to be > > observed for Shri Adi Shakti, they anointed and pontificated Sir C > > P and claimed publicly that Shri Mataji speaks through him and > > that he is Shiva, they sanctified Kalpina and Sadna by using shri > > before their names, they show photo of Sir C P's feet in the > > official website, they praised Sir C P by chanting " Bolo, shri > > papaji qui jay! " at the last Diwali puja, and finally, the > > ultimate sin committed against Shri Mataji is that they are doing > > their utmost to destroy by politicising, organising and distorting > > the teachings and works of God Almighty! > > > > Shri Mataji has said that She is the Adi Shakti and She is the only > > Incarnation on this earth, are they deaf or what? For all the years > > we've been in Sahaj, of course we've great respect Sir C P and his > > family, we never once regarded them as SYs. The only member of the > > family who is a SY was Shri Mataji's beloved brother, BabaMama. I > > would like to ask if anybody has witnessed any members of the > > family worship, meditate and bow to Shri Mataji at pujas in all > > these years? > > > > I know that those who are now considered as 'outsiders' will > > continue carrying the divine flame of Shri Mataji's and no one on > > this earth, particularly the WCASY and their followers, can stop us > > from spreading the True Message of our Holy Divine Mother. Gregoire > > had mentioned about fear in us, but do they have fear of the wrath > > of God? > > > > Jagbir, we'll keep in touch. > > > > Love, > > > > Xxxxxxx > > > > Sir CP had no right to make public Shri Mataji's medical health and > file > > Dear Xxxxxxx, > > i consider Sir C P's divulging of Shri Mataji's medical health and > history to all SY leaders as one of the greatest misfortune in > Sahaja Yoga history. Such matters were supposed to be strictly > confidential that, in order to be made public, required the express > permission of Shri Mataji due to the highly damaging and explosive > nature of the medical file. > > > WHAT INFORMATION IS SUBJECT TO PROTECTIONS CONCERNING MEDICAL RECORD > CONFIDENTIALITY? > > Any information about you, whether in electronic or physical form, > regarding your medical history, mental or physical condition, or > treatment is subject to California laws protecting your medical > record confidentiality. > > WHAT DOES AN AUTHORIZATION FORM FOR RELEASE OF MY MEDICAL RECORDS > HAVE TO INCLUDE TO BE VALID? > > To be valid, an authorization form used by health care providers, > HMOs and health care contractors must: > > Be handwritten by you (or your authorized representative signing the > authorization form) or be typewritten in no smaller than 8-point > type. > > Be clearly separate from any other language on the same page and > have a line for your signature that serves no purpose other than to > authorize the release of your information. > > Be signed by one of the following: > > -- you, the patient, > -- your legal representative if you are a minor or incompetent, > -- the beneficiary or personal representative of a deceased patient, > -- or your spouse or person financially responsible for you for the > sole purpose of processing an application for health care insurance > or enrollment in a health care service plan or employee benefit plan > when you are to be an enrolled spouse or dependent under the policy > or plan. > -- Specify the uses and limitations on the types of medical > information to be disclosed, >; -- Specify the name or functions of the health care provider that > may disclose the information, > -- State the name or functions of the persons or entities authorized > to receive the medical information, > -- State the specific uses and limitations on the use of the medical > information by the persons or entities authorized to receive the > medical information, > -- State a specific date after which the health care provider is no > longer authorized to disclose your medical record information, and > -- State that you have a right to receive a copy of the > authorization.12 > > CAN MY DOCTOR OR HMO RELEASE MY MEDICAL RECORDS WITHOUT MY CONSENT? > > Yes, but only in certain limited situations when necessary to > provide you with appropriate health care. Your doctor or HMO is > required to release your medical record information, even without >; your written authorization, to the following: > > A court pursuant to a court order. > > A board, commission, or administrative agency for purposes of > resolving a dispute pursuant to its lawful authority. > > A party to a proceeding before a court or administrative agency > pursuant to an investigative subpoena. > > An arbitrator or arbitration panel, when arbitration is lawfully > requested by either party pursuant to a subpoena. > > A government law enforcement agency pursuant to a search warrant > > http://www.calpatientguide.org/iii.html > > > None of the above conditions or reasons were met. > > Yes, some SYs may wonder why am i saying it only now. Well, i was > under the impression that the 10th. Dec 1998 letter of Shri Mataji > was a forgery i.e., She never wrote it. Only lately i realized that > She did in fact write it and Her instructions were crystal clear and > unequivocal. > > If WCASY had sided with Her instead of Sir CP, or at least got Her > express permission first for medical treatment and release of > information, the present crisis would not have come. After all, how > difficult was it for them to ask Shri Mataji on probably Her most > important personal desire? WCASY seems to have all the time and > luxury to ask 1001 mundane questions but not concerning Her express > written order!!!??? How many of you would want your medical file be > made public without your permission? This reeks of a most > frightening negativity and foul play! > > So SYs now think that WCASY's claim that Shri Mataji speaks through > Sir CP is true and that he is Shiva? Let me tell you something to > the contrary. > > Last year a SY ENT expert, Dr. B, was summoned to Genoa, Italy by > Sir CP to treat Shri Mataji's ear as She is hard of hearing. At the > appointed hour Dr. B met Sir CP and Shri Mataji. Dr. B asked Shri > Mataji if She wanted to be treated. There was no reply from Her. > Then Dr. B again asked in a louder voice if he could examine Her. > Again Shri Mataji remained silent. > > It was then when Sir CP told Dr. B to go ahead as She had agreed. > Dr. B was quite shocked by Sir CP's insincerity since Shri Mataji > never gave any verbal hint or physical gesture that She can be > examined. Dr. B then silently asked Her for forgiveness as he was > about to perform an ear examination without Her permission. This > incident is evidence that Shri Mataji does not talk to Sir CP as has > been claimed by WCASY and himself. It is just not true as She has > stopped talking due to the medication administered to Her. > > WCASY's claim that Sir CP is Shiva is just pure fabrication. It was > necessary for WCASY to bestow divinity on him as Sir CP holds the de > facto power in the organization, not Shri Mataji. She is now reduced > to a mere puppet involuntarily holding a rubber stamp that is used > by WCASY to endorse and bless any undertaking - from assassinating > Guido, poisoning Avinash, garroting Perezhogin to suppressing my > websites and demonizing my children. WCASY and their hired hit man > Alan Wherry is rumored to have now set the crosshair on Derek Lee. > Yes, WCASY claims that all such acts have the blessings of Shri > Mataji who 'speaks' through Sir Shiva ................. just ask > Dr. B and you will know how much Shri Mataji's talks to Sir CP, in > public or private. > > But the main question is: " Did Sir CP have Shri Mataji's permission > to make public Her medical health and file " ? i have the right to ask > because WCASY and Sir CP are now putting too many words in Her > incapacitated mouth. Their outrageous claim that Sir CP is actually > Shiva is the last straw. Tens of thousands of SYs are either too > blissfully unaware or unfortunately dull to comprehend what is at > stake! It is outsiders like us who have to wake them up. > > Everything will be alright one day – i am sure too that the darkest > hour comes just before dawn. Your Mother Kundalini within is > recording all during the Last Judgment! Don't be fooled by humans > who claim to be Her Will or Shiva. The Devi within has no partners > or spouse. Even Shri Shiva meditates on Her! So do all others - Shri > Ganesha, Jesus, Krishna, Radha, Rama, Sita, Brahma, Saraswati, > Prophet Muhammad, Guru Nanak, Mahavira, Buddha - and all liberated > souls in the Spirit World. So stand your sacred ground and don't > budge an inch. Gladly leave the organization to continue on your own > but don't ever sell your soul to WCASY or Sir Shiva. Your allegiance > and attention at all times must be exclusively, unconditionally and > without any question whatsoever on the Adi Shakti, the Devi within: > > " Now listen attentively about the supreme devotion (parabhakti) > which I will now describe to you. He always hears my glories and > recites my name. His mind always dwells in me, like the incessant > flow of oil, and he is the receptacle of all good qualities and > gunas. But he does not have the least trace of any desire to get the > fruits of his actions (karma). Indeed, he does not want the various > levels of release (moksha), including being on the same plane as God > (salokya), nearness to God (samipya), having the form of God > (sarsti), union with God (sayujya) and other forms of release. > Devi continues noting that true worshipers abandons all concepts of > themselves, completely identify themselves with Devi, and make no > distinctions between themselves and anything else. Worshipers find > Devi in everything, including other souls: > > He becomes filled with devotion for me alone, worships me only, > knows nothing higher than to serve me, and he does not even want > final release. He does not like neglecting the notions of " serving " > (sevya) and the " servant who serves " (sevaka). He always meditates > on me with a constant vigilance, actuated by a feeling of supreme > devotion. He does not think of himself as separate from me, but > rather thinks to himself, " I am the Lord (Bhagavati). " He considers > all souls (jivas) as myself, and loves me as he loves himself. He > makes no distinction between the souls and myself since he finds the > same pure consciousness (caitanya) everywhere and manifested in all. > He does not quarrel with anyone since he has abandoned all ideas of > separateness. He bows down and worships the pure consciousness and > all the souls. He becomes filled with the highest love when he sees > my place, sees my devotees, hears the scriptures, describes my > deeds, and meditates on my mantras. His hairs stand on end out of > love for me and his tears of love flow incessantly from both of his > eyes. He recites my name deeds in a voice that is choked with > feelings of love for me. With intense feeling he worships me as the > mother of this universe and the cause of all causes. " [Devi > Bhagavata Purana, 7.37] > > Jai Shri Ganapathy, > > > jagbir > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 , " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org wrote: > > > > > This incident is evidence that Shri Mataji does not talk to Sir > > CP as has been claimed by WCASY and himself. It is just not true > > as She has stopped talking due to the medication administered to > > Her. > > > > Shri Mataji used to be a prolific talker who literally spent the > last three decades traversing and criss-crossing the globe every > year in an effort to enlighten humanity. We all know the prodigious > time and effort spent by Her in talking with fellow human beings, > sometimes for hours at end. She promised to spread Sahaja Yoga > before attaining Mahasamadhi. > > Then a minor incident in April 2003 snowballed into what we have > today. Shri Mataji, then an octogenarian, had some hallucinations. > It ended with Her being given an anti-psychotic drug Risperidone. > > Since being given medication She has not communicated with any > person in any meaningful way over the last three years. i thought > the medication was the cause of Her inability to talk. However > today i have realized that is NOT THE CASE! Risperidone does not > silence the patient.... > > So why is Shri Mataji so silent for so long? It is as if Shri > Mahamaya is playing a game with those who have boldly hijacked Her > Will and now raised and praised Sir CP to be the incarnation of > Shri Shiva. Sir Shiva, in return for such a blessing, has > empowered WCASY to act as judge, jury and executioner. > > Violet has raised a very troubling point that also pricked my > conscience: > > " Here then is the advice given from the person of whom Shri Mataji > wrote: " Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. " > (http://www.adishakti.org/images/sm_1998_letter.JPG) When you read > what he advised... i am sure it will become clear why Shri Mataji > told us not to listen to him: > > Sir CP: > > " One thing I want to mention - World Council - is that She (Shri > Mataji) desires for me to convey to you that the World Council is > the highest authority in Sahaja Yoga, representing Her will. And > this will be, the World Council, will be the final deciding > authority in Sahaja Yoga collectives. There should be no doubt > about that. That is Her will, and on behalf of Her, the World > Council will be acting. Is that clear to everyone? That is Her > will and She asked me to convey this, and I am conveying it to > you. The final authority is the World Council. Everything else > emanates from the World Council. Whatever decision is to be taken, > the World Council takes, because that is Her will. The Council > represents Her will. Alright? So there should be no confusion in > future. That has been decided. Thereafter, what happens where is a > matter for the World Council to decide. We have now to move > forward, carry forward the message and act on that basis. " ... > > That brings us back to the same question: But why is Shri Mataji > silent for so long and continues to bear witness to the official > orgies of the copulating parties tightly locked in embrace in their > lust for power and self-aggrandizement? > i have an email that shocked me. to Jagbir Singh <xxxxx date Dec 2, 2006 3:12 AM subject Fwd: But why is Shri Mataji silent for so long and continues to bear witness? mailed-by gmail.com Dear Jagbir, Shree Mataji was taken off Risperidol in late 2005 or early 2006 and I do not have any information whether she was put back on it after that. Balwinder i was shocked because it is obvious that those who administered Her the drugs against Her express wishes are now unable to explain Her sustained Silence. If all this silence has nothing to do with any medication whatsoever, why is She still silent towards WCASY and Sir Shiva? There is just no medical reason for Her to stop talking. Or is it because She does not want to have anything to do with those who are guilty of: i) medicating Her with anti-psychotic drugs against Her express written wishes? ii) assassinating and ridding council members appointed by Her? iii) claiming WCASY will now represent Her Will? iv) and elevating Sir CP to be Shiva, Her divine half? Other than the above, i can find no other reason for Shri Mataji behaving in this way. It is as if that is the only way to check the self-appointed powers of WCASY and Sir Shiva, lest any communication with them will legitimize their claims. But does any balanced and informed SY think Shri Mataji is that heartless and viciously revengeful as to assassinate Guido, poison Avinash and garrot Perezhogin ........ knowing full well that they all have loyally served and dedicated their lives in Her cause? How can that then be Her Will as claimed by WCASY and Sir CP? And what was the heinous crime they committed that called for their humiliation and expulsion? - they were just following instructions that She had given to all SYs in black and white: To whomsoever it may concern I want to state that nobody has any right on my body, without my permission I should not be treated by any doctor vidya or any other person. Specially my husband and my family members should not at all have any say in my sickness, no one has to admit me in any hospital. Even Sahaja Yogis cannot admit me to the hospital or treat me or arrange any doctor for treatment for me. I want to declare that my family should never never admit me in the hospital. Specially my husband has no right over my body and any advice from him should not be accepted at all. In short I do not want to be admitted in any hospital by anyone. Before my death I will write what is to be done with my body. sg. Mataji Nirmala Devi Mrs. Nirmala Srivastava 10th. Dec 1998 How can Sir Shiva and WCASY claim that it was the Will of our Divine Mother to expel those who were merely following Her express written instruction? Any conscientious SY would have done the same. The least would have been to get Her permission. i even ask my daughter her permission before administering cough medication. Shri Mataji is the Adi Shakti for God's sake!!!!!! Don't you think Her express permission was required for anti-psychotic drugs? i assure you WCASY is lying when they claim Shri Mataji talks to Sir CP who then conveys Her wishes. Dr B was witness to this shocking lie by Sir CP who interpreted Shri Mataji's silence to two request for ear examination as a " Yes " !!! That is how he manipulates and takes advantage of Her silence. i have no respect for such a liar. If he can lie in front of an examining doctor what makes you think he has not made up the stories that Shri Mataji talks to him? Why can't he just make Shri Mataji repeat all that he claims She is telling him in private? Why not make a tape recording of the conversation? Are we asking too much? Shri Mataji is silent towards those parties who have collectively violated, overpowered and removed Her Will in every aspect of the word. Despite being taken off Risperidol in late 2005 or early 2006 She continues to bear silent witness to the official orgies of the copulating parties tightly locked in embrace in their lust for power and self-aggrandizement? Maybe they are too drunk with pleasure to wonder why? jagbir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 Dear All, But why is Shri Mataji silent for so long and continues to bear witness? Perhaps the following is why Shri Mataji is silent for so long and continues to bear witness. violet Sir CP One thing I want to mention - World Council - is that She (Shri Mataji) desires for me to convey to you that the World Council is the highest authority in Sahaja Yoga, representing Her will. Shri Mataji Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. Sir C.P. And this will be, the World Council, will be the final deciding authority in Sahaja Yoga collectives. Shri Mataji Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. Sir C.P. There should be no doubt about that. Shri Mataji Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. Sir C.P. That is Her will, and on behalf of Her, the World Council will be acting. Shri Mataji Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. Sir C.P. Is that clear to everyone? Shri Mataji Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. Sir C.P. That is Her will and She asked me to convey this, and I am conveying it to you. Shri Mataji Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. THE " OF COURSE! SCENARIO " i did not like the original scenario where Shri Mataji was expected to say " OF COURSE " . So... in this scenario... i have Sir C.P. saying it instead: Violet Sir C.P., you must be aware that Shri Mataji wrote a letter in reference to yourself, where She stated that: " Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. " Sir C.P. OF COURSE! Violet Sir... i therefore believe you should respect the Desire of Her Devotees to do just as Shri Mataji has requested. Sir C.P. OF COURSE! (END OF THE " OF COURSE! SCENARIO " ... AND CONTINUATION OF SIR C.P.'S ADVICE TO SAHAJA YOGIS): Sir CP The final authority is the World Council. Shri Mataji: Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. Sir CP Everything else emanates from the World Council. Shri Mataji Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. Sir C.P. Whatever decision is to be taken, the World Council takes, because that is Her will. Shri Mataji Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. Sir C.P. The Council represents Her will. Shri Mataji Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. Sir C.P. Alright? Shri Mataji Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. Sir C.P. So there should be no confusion in future. Shri Mataji Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. Sir C.P. That has been decided. Shri Mataji Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. Sir C.P. Thereafter, what happens where is a matter for the World Council to decide. Shri Mataji Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. Sir C.P. We have now to move forward, carry forward the message and act on that basis. Violet Sir... it is more important to please Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi than 100,000 WCASY members! 'Why, after hearing the kind of advice you gave, i am not surprised at all that Shri Mataji said: " Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. " violet http://www.sahajayoga.org/swan/view/swan_512_2006.asp http://www.adishakti.org/images/sm_1998_letter.JPG /message/6321?var=1 & l=1 , " Violet " <violet.tubb wrote: > > Dear All, > > Shri Mataji hand-wrote a letter, in which She advised Sahaja Yogis not to listen to " any " advice from her husband. Here is that letter: > > To Whomsoever It May Concern: > > " I want to state that nobody has any right on my body, without my permission. I should not be treated by any doctor vidya or any other person. Specially my husband and my family members should not at all have any say in my sickness. No one has to admit me in any hospital. Even Sahaja Yogis can not admit me in the hospital or treat me or arrange any doctor for treatment for me. I want to declare that my family should never admit me in the hospital. Specially my husband has no right over my body AND ANY ADVICE FROM HIM SHOULD NOT BE ACCEPTED AT ALL. In short, I do not want to be admitted in any hospital by anyone. Before my death I will write what is to be done with my body. " > (sg. Mataji Nirmala devi - Mrs. Nirmala Srivastava 10th Dec. 1998) > http://www.adishakti.org/images/sm_1998_letter.JPG > > The letter above looks just like a letter a person would write, if they want to be sure that they are treated... " or not treated " according to their own wishes. Shri Mataji seems to be acknowledging in the above letter that She is already having... or will be having 'a sickness'. i imagine a letter like that would not be liked by any husband or family (whoever they are)... yet every individual has exactly that right... to write such a letter, expressing their wishes... if they so please. > > And... Shri Mataji has such a right too. Just because She also is the Incarnation of the Adi Shakti, does not mean others have rights over Her Body or even over Her Will. In fact, She is clearly asserting in this letter that neither her husband, her family, or Sahaja Yogis have any rights over her body... without Her express permission: > > " I want to state that nobody has any right on my body, without my permission. " > > Therefore... in hindsight... perhaps that Drama in Italy was a Drama of Dharma to protect our Mother. i am sure i could hear the rumbling of a Quick Exit all the way from Down Under. i have never seen nor heard of Shri Mataji ever making such a speedy exit... especially when Her Children from Italy and other countries, were just wanting to make sure that Her wish (as per the above letter) was being upheld. Therefore... it would appear, that the benefit of the QUICK EXIT was for WCASY and Co, who of course flew at lightning speed over the Atlantic Ocean into the Sheltering Reprieve of Alan Wherry Country... " USA " . In their happiness at a World First, the Italians were forgotten. What the Italians and others had to say... was dismissed. Any leaders involved... were sacked. The media blitz made the Italians and others " at fault " and made the WCASY look like the Heroes that Rescued Their Mother " . i am sure, according to them... if the Letter were followed, She would not be given medications, unless She approved them... and to WCASY et al... their Worldview appears to be that " no medication for Shri Mataji's sickness spells bodily danger " . i really believe they convinced themselves that they were rescuing Shri Mataji from the Italians. That is how it came across anyway. > > Here is the letter to " My dear Modi and other Sahaja Yogis " (of which the original was handwritten by SM)... and please pay special attention to Shri Mataji's Worldview of Her Body and what it is meant to undergo for the mission for which it has been taken, and that therefore She is not bothered. She talks about working under anaesthesia... folks. This is not a normal lady... lets face it! She also says that She " never has pains " . This is an official letter which She wanted everyone to see and read, because it gave us Her Bodily Worldview. (However, as Shri Mataji is 'wont to do'... She again hides this information very cleverly " right out in the open " to be discovered... if we " really look " .) > > Here then is the letter, which She gave to Modi... with the request to " please circulate this letter among all Sahaja Yogis " : > > My dear Modi and other Sahaja Yogis, > > Many blessings. Received your letter. I am very glad to know that > your Ida Nadi has become clean and I hope, Ida Nadis of all have > become clean at least to some extent. Here I had told all that I > would work, while under anaesthesia, to clean the Ida channels of > all. I worked for 3 days cleaning it by vomiting nearly 50 times > every day and it is nice that the cleaning has become possible. > > This physical being has to be used for the mission for which it has > been taken and therefore I am not bothered by the illness and other > troubles. On the contrary all such and different experiments with > this incarnation will have to be performed. > > Why are you so anxious about it? What else is the use of this body? > I never have any pains. All I want is that, in the laboratory of > this body, some work or the other must go on. Time is short while > the work to be done is very big. > > You cannot do the cleaning of Ida channel only on the strength of > your realisation. I knew that it had to be cleaned from within. > > In ancient days all seekers had to do this action (Kriya) constantly > right from their childhood at the residences of their gurus at > isolated places. The seekers had to do it individually in many > lives. Because, now you have attained the state of collectivity I > have done it in collective consciousness. > > Although you say I have done it, the distinction of you and I should > not be there in collective consciousness. Mantras ''Twam Bhawani, > Twam Durga, Twam Ambika etc.'' are good for Ida Channel, but when > you are established in Sahaja Yoga, you will have to say 'Aham > Bhavani'. However this Mantra can be said only when your purity > becomes one with that of 'Aham Bhavani' and I tell you now itself > that this will happen. > > After cleaning the Ida Channel I am awakening Pingala Nadi. > Sahaja Yogis had become rather lethargic due to the conditioning of > Ida Channel. Laziness and a tendency of avoiding the work was > dominating in them. Their attention was being frittered away on > avoiding the work. But I have now started the work of awakening > Pingala Channel. All of you should raise your right hand from right > side over your head and leave it on the left side but while doing > it, you must apply your will power so that your desires will > materialize. > > With the awakening of collectivity, you will have many people to > share your work which you are doing alone. > > The sphere of Sahasrara envelops your heart. When conditioning of > heart is reduced, as if the glass of a lamp becomes clean, rays of > ever resplendent Spirit awaken Sahasrara sheath and the light of > bliss spreads, which is felt in Sahasrara. This light enlightens all > sides of colourful heart and decorates it with the qualities which > can be described as pleasing, blissful etc. Gradually this state > will grow and become stable within you. > > Most of the Sahaja Yogis should try this method, but there should > not be merely the mechanical movement of hands. Whatever you do, it > should be done with the faith that you have in worshipping, zeal of > a warrior and sensitivity of an artist. There should be complete > purity in the recitation of Mantras to awaken the deities and your > heart must be involved in it. Only then the awakening will take > place. > > You should understand a simple principle. How can a big fire be lit > with a small match stick? Will a wick hold the flame if water is > mixed in the oil? How can those Sahaja Yogis have enlightenment who > are using Sahaja Yoga to solve only their own petty problems? And > why should God give them the enlightenment? Lighthouses do not show > light to themselves even for a moment. Therefore, they are > considered so important and are looked after. > > Please circulate this letter among all Sahaja Yogis. > > Your Mother - NIRMALA > > > So... please note especially these words: > > " Why are you so anxious about it? What else is the use of this body? I never have any pains. All I want is that, in the laboratory of this body, some work or the other must go on. Time is short while the work to be done is very big. " (End Quote) (Given what Shri Mataji says in these amazing words, and given what She says in the " To Whomsoever It May Concern " letter about not wanting hospitals... it can be seen that the Spirit in the two letters indicate a 'same personality' with a similar 'bodily worldview'. > > i believe it was not long after that the Big Announcement with the Infamous Response of " OF COURSE! " was recorded. A dramatic Letter of Shri Mataji's that the Italians 'surfaced'... obviously demanded an equally dramatic and unprecedented " OF COURSE " from Shri Mataji. It was amazing how the two words of " Of Course " ... made the world " so right " for WCASY and Co. However, the question needs to be asked: > Did those two words of " OF COURSE " also 'make the world right' for Mother? " > > Because i have a few questions: > > Why did WCASY not do the right thing and get a Handwriting Expert on the spot to clear any confusion and authenticate the Letter that the Italians claim Shri Mataji wrote? Because as administrators of Sahaja Yoga Organisation, they owe at least 'that much' to Sahaja Yogis worldwide. That they did not 'do so' (that is get a handwriting expert) to verify the Letter... implicates WCASY very much... as not doing the right thing. > > Now the job of WCASY as administration, is essentially communication: > " Leaders should be very careful. They should become free of all arrogance. They are only a communication link, like I have to put a letter in the envelope and post it. " (Gudi Padwa - 24 March, 1993) > (Excerpt Australian Sahaja Newsletter - 10 Feb. 1996) > > However, the communication severely broke down on two counts. The first count was the failure to get a Handwriting Expert to authenticate the Letter. The second, was to flee the country. Am i awake or am i dreaming or am i under some illusion? Because not to get a Handwriting Expert, and to flee the country at breakneck speed. What does that indicate? (rhetorical question) > > So... 'as already given'... Shri Mataji has stated in Her (regarding her husband) that: > > " Any advice from him should not be accepted at all " . > > That was probably the teensy weensy bit in the letter that WCASY hated, and decided the better option was to get out of Italy real fast. > > So... what is this advice that Shri Mataji said " should not be accepted at all " ? Here it is: > > > Sir CP: > " One thing I want to mention - World Council - is that She (Shri Mataji) desires for me to convey to you that the World Council is the highest authority in Sahaja Yoga, representing Her will. And this will be, the World Council, will be the final deciding authority in Sahaja Yoga collectives. There should be no doubt about that. That is Her will, and on behalf of Her, the World Council will be acting. Is that clear to everyone? That is Her will and She asked me to convey this, and I am conveying it to you. " > > Sir CP: > " The final authority is the World Council. Everything else emanates from the World Council. Whatever decision is to be taken, the World Council takes, because that is Her will. The Council represents Her will. Alright? So there should be no confusion in future. That has been decided. Thereafter, what happens where is a matter for the World Council to decide. We have now to move forward, carry forward the message and act on that basis. " > > (Btw... in between the two paragraphs of Sir C.P.'s was the famous alleged " OF COURSE " from Shri Mataji.) > > Now... lets remember that Shri Mataji advised us not to listen to any advice that Sir C.P. gave. As Sir C.P. was " giving advice " to which Shri Mataji 'supposedly agreed'... this is proof that Shri Mataji did not know what She was saying 'of course' to. If She knew what She was supposedly saying 'of course' too, She would not have agreed with it. All you have to do is read Her Letter to know She would not have agreed with it: > > To Whomsoever It May Concern: > > " I want to state that nobody has any right on my body, without my permission. I should not be treated by any doctor vidya or any other person. Specially my husband and my family members should not at all have any say in my sickness. No one has to admit me in any hospital. Even Sahaja Yogis can not admit me in the hospital or treat me or arrange any doctor for treatment for me. I want to declare that my family should never admit me in the hospital. Specially my husband has no right over my body and any advice from him should not be accepted at all. In short, I do not want to be admitted in any hospital by anyone. Before my death I will write what is to be done with my body. " > (sg. Mataji Nirmala devi - Mrs. Nirmala Srivastava 10th Dec. 1998) > http://www.adishakti.org/images/sm_1998_letter.JPG > > Lets also not forget that the astrologers predictions are already coming true: > > " The T-square formations between Moon-Mars, Venus, Jupiter and Neptune, indicate that some of the plans of Mataji might be hindered by obstructive activities of evil and negative forces. " (End Quote) > > (This part of the prediction has already come true. WCASY have obstructed knowledge of Shri Mataji's Identity, as well as Her Message of the Last Judgment and Resurrection to the world-at-large. The astrologer's description of " obstructive activities of evil and negative forces " sounds 'spot on' too.) > > " Also Mataji might have to steer through conflicting loyalties and aims, of some of her so-called followers who are enemies in disguise. " > (End Quote) > > (We have shown how time and again that there are many " so-called- followers " who are not following Shri Mataji's Leading at all. That they are enemies in disguise is becoming very apparent. The episode in Italy, i think, is a prime example. i think this prediction has also already come true.) > > " But despite all this, she will find her way to the goal of her life, viz., universal Self-Realization! " . > /message/6321 > > violet > > > , " jagbir > singh " <adishakti_org@> wrote: > > > > > > > > This incident is evidence that Shri Mataji does not talk to Sir CP > > > as has been claimed by WCASY and himself. It is just not true as > > > She has stopped talking due to the medication administered to Her. > > > > > > > Shri Mataji used to be a prolific talker who literally spent the > > last three decades traversing and criss-crossing the globe every > > year in an effort to enlighten humanity. We all know the prodigious > > time and effort spent by Her in talking with fellow human beings, > > sometimes for hours at end. She promised to spread Sahaja Yoga > > before attaining Mahasamadhi. > > > > Then a minor incident in April 2003 snowballed into what we have > > today. Shri Mataji, then an octogenarian, had some hallucinations. > > It ended with Her being given an anti-psychotic drug Risperidone. > > > > Since being given medication She has not communicated with any > > person in any meaningful way over the last three years. i thought > > the medication was the cause of Her inability to talk. However today > > i have realized that is NOT THE CASE! Risperidone does not silence > > the patient. > > > > " Side Effects > > > > RISPERDAL® (risperidone) is generally safe and effective for > > treating the symptoms of schizophrenia. > > > > With any medication, some people have side effects and some don't. > > If you have any side effects with RISPERDAL, or feel you're not > > getting better, please talk to your doctor. > > > > The most common side effects that may occur with RISPERDAL are: > > anxiety, sleepiness, restlessness, tremors, and muscle stiffness; > > dizziness, constipation, nausea, indigestion, runny nose, rash, and > > rapid heartbeat. > > > > Studies suggest an increased risk of elevated blood sugar-related > > side effects, and sometimes potentially fatal, in patients treated > > with this class of medications, including RISPERDAL. Some people may > > need regular blood sugar testing. > > > > Some people taking RISPERDAL may feel faint or lightheaded when they > > stand up or sit up too quickly. By standing up or sitting up slowly > > and following your doctor's dosing instructions, this side effect > > may be reduced or it may go away over time. > > > > You may have heard the term " extrapyramidal symptoms (EPS). " These > > are usually reversible movement disorders or muscle disturbances, > > such as restlessness, tremors, and muscle stiffness. Some people > > taking RISPERDAL have these side effects. In clinical studies, these > > side effects were uncommon at lower doses, but did increase with > > higher doses. If you have these symptoms, talk to your doctor. > > > > You may have heard the term " tardive dyskinesia. " These are > > potentially irreversible, uncontrollable, slow or jerky facial or > > body movements that can be caused by all medications of this type > > (antipsychotics). If you have these symptoms, talk to your doctor. > > Only your doctor should adjust your dose or stop your medication. " > > > > www.risperdal.com/ > > > > > > So why is Shri Mataji so silent for so long? It is as if Shri > > Mahamaya is playing a game with those who have boldly hijacked Her > > Will and now raised and praised Sir CP to be the incarnation of Shri > > Shiva. Sir Shiva, in return for such a blessing, has empowered WCASY > > to act as judge, jury and executioner. > > > > Violet has raised a very troubling point that also pricked my > > conscience: > > > > " Here then is the advice given from the person of whom Shri Mataji > > wrote: " Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. " > > (http://www.adishakti.org/images/sm_1998_letter.JPG) When you read > > what he advised... i am sure it will become clear why Shri Mataji > > told us not to listen to him: > > > > Sir CP: > > > > " One thing I want to mention - World Council - is that She (Shri > > Mataji) desires for me to convey to you that the World Council is > > the highest authority in Sahaja Yoga, representing Her will. And > > this will be, the World Council, will be the final deciding > > authority in Sahaja Yoga collectives. There should be no doubt about > > that. That is Her will, and on behalf of Her, the World Council will > > be acting. Is that clear to everyone? That is Her will and She asked > > me to convey this, and I am conveying it to you. The final authority > > is the World Council. Everything else emanates from the World > > Council. Whatever decision is to be taken, the World Council takes, > > because that is Her will. The Council represents Her will. Alright? > > So there should be no confusion in future. That has been decided. > > Thereafter, what happens where is a matter for the World Council to > > decide. We have now to move forward, carry forward the message and > > act on that basis. " > > > > http://www.sahajayoga.org/swan/view/swan_512_2006.asp > > /message/ > 6321?threaded=1 & l=1 > > > > " The T-square formations between Moon-Mars, Venus, Jupiter and > > Neptune, indicate that some of the plans of Mataji might be hindered > > by obstructive activities of evil and negative forces. Also Mataji > > might have to steer through conflicting loyalties and aims, of some > > of her so-called followers who are enemies in disguise. But despite > > all this, she will find her way to the goal of her life, viz., > > universal Self-Realization! " . > > > > /message/6321 > > > > That brings us back to the same question: But why is Shri Mataji > > silent for so long and continues to bear witness to the official > > orgies of the copulating parties tightly locked in embrace in their > > lust for power and self-aggrandizement? > > > > But then She promised to spread Sahaja Yoga before attaining > > Mahasamadhi. i know Her deafening silence has begun raising > > outsiders who will complete that task, and continue long after She > > has left. Shri Mataji has steered through the conflicting loyalties > > and aims of some of her so-called followers who are enemies in > > disguise. Despite all this, She has found the way to the goal of Her > > life, viz., universal Self-Realization! There is nothing WCASY or > > Sir Shiva can do to stop Her now. It does not matter anymore if Sir > > Shiva does not agree to uphold the truth of www.adishakti.org and > > www.al-qiyamah.org which Dr. B presented and made clear to him in a > > lengthy letter that called for his unconditional duty towards Shri > > Mataji. It is obvious that WCASY and Sir Shiva work hand in glove to > > suppress Shri Mataji's Divine Message to humanity, and both have > > made clear their intentions and we have evidence. The Adi Shakti, > > both within and without, knows that neither WCASY nor Sir CP is > > interested in propagating Her incarnation and Message. > > > > i know deep in my heart that Shri Mataji did not summoned Dr. B to > > examine Her ear. In Her silence She has exposed all those who work > > against Her, specifically her husband Sir Shiva. She also laid bare > > the boldness and blasphemy humans are capable of, acts they would > > shuddered of committing when She was in Her element. Perhaps this > > was to be Her final act to expose the negativity that has > > overwhelmed the Sahaja Yoga organization. Perhaps all this is a > > harbinger of the trials and tribulations to be faced by the > > faithful, concerend and conscientious after She departs. > > > > Remember the supreme devotion (parabhakti) She has described? That > > is your only sanctuary now ............. seek Her within! > > > > Jagbir > > > > > > Note: John Noyce, please sent a copy of this email to WCASY and Sir > Shiva. > > > > > > > > > > , " jagbir singh " > > <adishakti_org@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Xxxxxx, > > > > > > Thank you for this 'shocking' mail. i did not know Sir CP is now > > > regarded as Shiva. Shri Mataji never ever even once hinted that > her > > > husband was in any way divine. On the contrary, She did lament > that > > > even Her own family (husband and children) do not recognize Her. > > > How come now when Shri Mataji is old, drugged and incapacitated we > > > start hearing of things She never said? i.e., words are put in Her > > > mouth because She refuses to say so on Her own. > > > > > > So maybe we will have to wait for Sir C P to officially announce > > > that he is Shiva. Perhaps then WCASY can request SYs to start > > > meditating on his lotus feet too. > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > jagbir > > > > > > > > > Note: i just realized that WCASY's Sir Shiva has a serious > > > credibility problem that will now haunt all of them. It is as if > > > Shri Mataji knew what was coming and gifted the guilty parties > with > > > enough rope to hang all who participated in this terrible > > > transgression and blasphemy despite Shri Mataji's explicit > > > instructions: " Specially my husband has no right over my body and > > > any advice from him should not be accepted at all " . > > > > > > Why do i have this feeling that WCASY's Sir Shiva will need a lot > > > of smoke and mirrors to pull this off?............. sorry, i > forgot > > > wool for SYs. But does Sir C P know he has been elevated to Shiva > > > by WCASY, perhaps without his knowledge or consent? WCASY is more > > > sinister than we think ............... and time will tell. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > i read Shri Mataji's 1998 letter again and compared it with Her > > > > previous chakra notes. Even with the brief notes i found that > > > > letters " a, b, d. h. m, n, r, y " matched in both documents i.e., > > > > there is no need for a handwriting expert. By all means Shri > > > > Mataji did write the letter below to all SYs and is no forgery. > > > > So what did She declare to all SYs? > > > > > > > > > > > > To whomsoever it may concern > > > > > > > > I want to state that nobody has any right on my body, without my > > > > permission I should not be treated by any doctor vidya or any > > > > other person. > > > > > > > > Specially my husband and my family members should not at all > have > > > > any say in my sickness, no one has to admit me in any hospital. > > > > Even Sahaja Yogis cannot admit me to the hospital or treat me or > > > > arrange any doctor for treatment for me. > > > > > > > > I want to declare that my family should never never admit me in > > > > the hospital. Specially my husband has no right over my body and > > > > any advice from him should not be accepted at all. In short I do > > > > not want to be admitted in any hospital by anyone. > > > > > > > > Before my death I will write what is to be done with my body. > > > > > > > > sg. Mataji Nirmala Devi > > > > Mrs. Nirmala Srivastava > > > > 10th. Dec 1998 > > > > > > > > http://www.adishakti.org/images/sm_1998_letter.JPG > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Jagbir, > > > > > > Jai Shri Mataji! We're so glad to have been told about your Shri > > > Adishakti website because it has been very difficult and > frustrated > > > of not being able to express our views in these past two years due > > > to the total control of the Sahaj official website and national > > > websites around the world by WCASY and their followers. > > > > > > My husband and I, who have been in Sahaj for more than 20 years, > > > truly admire you and your family for having such tremendous > courage > > > and inner strength to stand up for the Truth and sticking to your > > > principles because we also have been subjected to similar fate as > > > you have been through in the past 3 years. We also have great > > > admiration for those true yogis like Sergei, Guido, Derek, Al > > > Ganesh, Henry Ho, the late Dr. Harald Knobel, Avinash and several > > > more of my true brothers and sisters, whose characters have been > > > tarnished, vilified and defamed publicly around the world in > recent > > >; years by WCASY and their followers. How many times have Shri > Mataji > > > talked of Love? It is so apparent that after all these years > > > they've never felt God's love in their heart and this is why so > > > many of them have fallen in the spider's web. > > > > > > However much they try to attack and discredit me, they can never > > > ever ever destroy my spirit, my faith and my love for Shri Mataji > > > which are a permanent fixture in my heart! I must say, there have > > > been times when the attacks they inflicted upon me was so > > > horrendous that it has posed risk to my health and danger to me > > > and my family, I thought I would not be able to last any longer. > > > My survival through this awful time only comes from the > > > protection, guidance and love of Shri Mataji and using clearing > > > and cleansing techniques which She has recommended to us on a > > > regular basis. She would come into my dreams regularly before, > > > during or after an attack either to forewarn, to indicate, to > > > soothe, to advice, to love, to correct or to reassure me. > > > > > > My family and I withdrew from the collective which has nothing to > > > do of how we've been treated, but it has to do of how they, > > > disgustingly, have been treating our Holy Divine Mother, God > > > Almighty, Shri Adi Shakti for the past 3 and a half years. Often I > > > would cry my eyes out and feel so ashamed of us as human beings > who > > > have been giving the greatest blessing of all and look at what > > > they've done in the name of God. They violate Her Divine body by > > > silen(cing) Her with this anti-psychotic drug, they parade Her > > > around without any respect for Her physical well being, they have > > > group photos taken with Shri Mataji in order to pamper their ego, > > > they totally disregard all protocols which are needed to be > > > observed for Shri Adi Shakti, they anointed and pontificated Sir C > > > P and claimed publicly that Shri Mataji speaks through him and > > > that he is Shiva, they sanctified Kalpina and Sadna by using shri > > > before their names, they show photo of Sir C P's feet in the > > > official website, they praised Sir C P by chanting " Bolo, shri > > > papaji qui jay! " at the last Diwali puja, and finally, the > > > ultimate sin committed against Shri Mataji is that they are doing > > > their utmost to destroy by politicising, organising and distorting > > > the teachings and works of God Almighty! > > > > > > Shri Mataji has said that She is the Adi Shakti and She is the > only > > > Incarnation on this earth, are they deaf or what? For all the > years > > > we've been in Sahaj, of course we've great respect Sir C P and his > > > family, we never once regarded them as SYs. The only member of the > > > family who is a SY was Shri Mataji's beloved brother, BabaMama. I > > > would like to ask if anybody has witnessed any members of the > > > family worship, meditate and bow to Shri Mataji at pujas in all > > > these years? > > > > > > I know that those who are now considered as 'outsiders' will > > > continue carrying the divine flame of Shri Mataji's and no one on > > > this earth, particularly the WCASY and their followers, can stop > us > > > from spreading the True Message of our Holy Divine Mother. > Gregoire > > > had mentioned about fear in us, but do they have fear of the wrath > > > of God? > > > > > > Jagbir, we'll keep in touch. > > > > > > Love, > > > > > > Xxxxxxx > > > > > > > Sir CP had no right to make public Shri Mataji's medical health and > > file > > > > Dear Xxxxxxx, > > > > i consider Sir C P's divulging of Shri Mataji's medical health and > > history to all SY leaders as one of the greatest misfortune in > > Sahaja Yoga history. Such matters were supposed to be strictly > > confidential that, in order to be made public, required the express > > permission of Shri Mataji due to the highly damaging and explosive > > nature of the medical file. > > > > > > WHAT INFORMATION IS SUBJECT TO PROTECTIONS CONCERNING MEDICAL RECORD > > CONFIDENTIALITY? > > > > Any information about you, whether in electronic or physical form, > > regarding your medical history, mental or physical condition, or > > treatment is subject to California laws protecting your medical > > record confidentiality. > > > > WHAT DOES AN AUTHORIZATION FORM FOR RELEASE OF MY MEDICAL RECORDS > > HAVE TO INCLUDE TO BE VALID? > > > > To be valid, an authorization form used by health care providers, > > HMOs and health care contractors must: > > > > Be handwritten by you (or your authorized representative signing the > > authorization form) or be typewritten in no smaller than 8-point > > type. > > > > Be clearly separate from any other language on the same page and > > have a line for your signature that serves no purpose other than to > > authorize the release of your information. > > > > Be signed by one of the following: > > > > -- you, the patient, > > -- your legal representative if you are a minor or incompetent, > > -- the beneficiary or personal representative of a deceased patient, > > -- or your spouse or person financially responsible for you for the > > sole purpose of processing an application for health care insurance > > or enrollment in a health care service plan or employee benefit plan > > when you are to be an enrolled spouse or dependent under the policy > > or plan. > > -- Specify the uses and limitations on the types of medical > > information to be disclosed, > >; -- Specify the name or functions of the health care provider that > > may disclose the information, > > -- State the name or functions of the persons or entities authorized > > to receive the medical information, > > -- State the specific uses and limitations on the use of the medical > > information by the persons or entities authorized to receive the > > medical information, > > -- State a specific date after which the health care provider is no > > longer authorized to disclose your medical record information, and > > -- State that you have a right to receive a copy of the > > authorization.12 > > > > CAN MY DOCTOR OR HMO RELEASE MY MEDICAL RECORDS WITHOUT MY CONSENT? > > > > Yes, but only in certain limited situations when necessary to > > provide you with appropriate health care. Your doctor or HMO is > > required to release your medical record information, even without > >; your written authorization, to the following: > > > > A court pursuant to a court order. > > > > A board, commission, or administrative agency for purposes of > > resolving a dispute pursuant to its lawful authority. > > > > A party to a proceeding before a court or administrative agency > > pursuant to an investigative subpoena. > > > > An arbitrator or arbitration panel, when arbitration is lawfully > > requested by either party pursuant to a subpoena. > > > > A government law enforcement agency pursuant to a search warrant > > > > http://www.calpatientguide.org/iii.html > > > > > > None of the above conditions or reasons were met. > > > > Yes, some SYs may wonder why am i saying it only now. Well, i was > > under the impression that the 10th. Dec 1998 letter of Shri Mataji > > was a forgery i.e., She never wrote it. Only lately i realized that > > She did in fact write it and Her instructions were crystal clear and > > unequivocal. > > > > If WCASY had sided with Her instead of Sir CP, or at least got Her > > express permission first for medical treatment and release of > > information, the present crisis would not have come. After all, how > > difficult was it for them to ask Shri Mataji on probably Her most > > important personal desire? WCASY seems to have all the time and > > luxury to ask 1001 mundane questions but not concerning Her express > > written order!!!??? How many of you would want your medical file be > > made public without your permission? This reeks of a most > > frightening negativity and foul play! > > > > So SYs now think that WCASY's claim that Shri Mataji speaks through > > Sir CP is true and that he is Shiva? Let me tell you something to > > the contrary. > > > > Last year a SY ENT expert, Dr. B, was summoned to Genoa, Italy by > > Sir CP to treat Shri Mataji's ear as She is hard of hearing. At the > > appointed hour Dr. B met Sir CP and Shri Mataji. Dr. B asked Shri > > Mataji if She wanted to be treated. There was no reply from Her. > > Then Dr. B again asked in a louder voice if he could examine Her. > > Again Shri Mataji remained silent. > > > > It was then when Sir CP told Dr. B to go ahead as She had agreed. > > Dr. B was quite shocked by Sir CP's insincerity since Shri Mataji > > never gave any verbal hint or physical gesture that She can be > > examined. Dr. B then silently asked Her for forgiveness as he was > > about to perform an ear examination without Her permission. This > > incident is evidence that Shri Mataji does not talk to Sir CP as has > > been claimed by WCASY and himself. It is just not true as She has > > stopped talking due to the medication administered to Her. > > > > WCASY's claim that Sir CP is Shiva is just pure fabrication. It was > > necessary for WCASY to bestow divinity on him as Sir CP holds the de > > facto power in the organization, not Shri Mataji. She is now reduced > > to a mere puppet involuntarily holding a rubber stamp that is used > > by WCASY to endorse and bless any undertaking - from assassinating > > Guido, poisoning Avinash, garroting Perezhogin to suppressing my > > websites and demonizing my children. WCASY and their hired hit man > > Alan Wherry is rumored to have now set the crosshair on Derek Lee. > > Yes, WCASY claims that all such acts have the blessings of Shri > > Mataji who 'speaks' through Sir Shiva ................. just ask > > Dr. B and you will know how much Shri Mataji's talks to Sir CP, in > > public or private. > > > > But the main question is: " Did Sir CP have Shri Mataji's permission > > to make public Her medical health and file " ? i have the right to ask > > because WCASY and Sir CP are now putting too many words in Her > > incapacitated mouth. Their outrageous claim that Sir CP is actually > > Shiva is the last straw. Tens of thousands of SYs are either too > > blissfully unaware or unfortunately dull to comprehend what is at > > stake! It is outsiders like us who have to wake them up. > > > > Everything will be alright one day – i am sure too that the darkest > > hour comes just before dawn. Your Mother Kundalini within is > > recording all during the Last Judgment! Don't be fooled by humans > > who claim to be Her Will or Shiva. The Devi within has no partners > > or spouse. Even Shri Shiva meditates on Her! So do all others - Shri > > Ganesha, Jesus, Krishna, Radha, Rama, Sita, Brahma, Saraswati, > > Prophet Muhammad, Guru Nanak, Mahavira, Buddha - and all liberated > > souls in the Spirit World. So stand your sacred ground and don't > > budge an inch. Gladly leave the organization to continue on your own > > but don't ever sell your soul to WCASY or Sir Shiva. Your allegiance > > and attention at all times must be exclusively, unconditionally and > > without any question whatsoever on the Adi Shakti, the Devi within: > > > > " Now listen attentively about the supreme devotion (parabhakti) > > which I will now describe to you. He always hears my glories and > > recites my name. His mind always dwells in me, like the incessant > > flow of oil, and he is the receptacle of all good qualities and > > gunas. But he does not have the least trace of any desire to get the > > fruits of his actions (karma). Indeed, he does not want the various > > levels of release (moksha), including being on the same plane as God > > (salokya), nearness to God (samipya), having the form of God > > (sarsti), union with God (sayujya) and other forms of release. > > Devi continues noting that true worshipers abandons all concepts of > > themselves, completely identify themselves with Devi, and make no > > distinctions between themselves and anything else. Worshipers find > > Devi in everything, including other souls: > > > > He becomes filled with devotion for me alone, worships me only, > > knows nothing higher than to serve me, and he does not even want > > final release. He does not like neglecting the notions of " serving " > > (sevya) and the " servant who serves " (sevaka). He always meditates > > on me with a constant vigilance, actuated by a feeling of supreme > > devotion. He does not think of himself as separate from me, but > > rather thinks to himself, " I am the Lord (Bhagavati). " He considers > > all souls (jivas) as myself, and loves me as he loves himself. He > > makes no distinction between the souls and myself since he finds the > > same pure consciousness (caitanya) everywhere and manifested in all. > > He does not quarrel with anyone since he has abandoned all ideas of > > separateness. He bows down and worships the pure consciousness and > > all the souls. He becomes filled with the highest love when he sees > > my place, sees my devotees, hears the scriptures, describes my > > deeds, and meditates on my mantras. His hairs stand on end out of > > love for me and his tears of love flow incessantly from both of his > > eyes. He recites my name deeds in a voice that is choked with > > feelings of love for me. With intense feeling he worships me as the > > mother of this universe and the cause of all causes. " [Devi > > Bhagavata Purana, 7.37] > > > > Jai Shri Ganapathy, > > > > > > jagbir > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 Dear Violet, Or maybe Shri Mataji's body had a stroke. Makes sense since her left side seemed to be paralysed for some time (Although I saw her use her left hand at the 2006 Shri Krishna Puja). Also makes sense that no one will admit to it, since if one has a stroke one needs medical attention immediately. Now, if the daughter took the time to call Sir CP and waited for his return before getting medical attention, as was reported some time back, then it stands to reason that Shri Mataji's left side, speech and cognitive skills could be effected. Certainly the family would not want the knowledge to go out that they dragged their feet getting the proper attention. So, another problem is circulated as truth. Even if she has gotten her speech back, it may not be in the family's and WCASY's best interest to allow lectures as her cognitive skills may be effected. Just my theory but from what I've seen and heard the stroke theory may be based on a true hypothosis. Suzy Violet <violet.tubb wrote: Dear All,But why is Shri Mataji silent for so long and continues to bear witness? Perhaps the following is why Shri Mataji is silent for so long and continues to bear witness.violetSir CPOne thing I want to mention - World Council - is that She (Shri Mataji) desires for me to convey to you that the World Council is the highest authority in Sahaja Yoga, representing Her will. Shri MatajiAny advice from him should not be accepted at all.Sir C.P.And this will be, the World Council, will be the final deciding authority in Sahaja Yoga collectives.Shri MatajiAny advice from him should not be accepted at all.Sir C.P.There should be no doubt about that.Shri MatajiAny advice from him should not be accepted at all.Sir C.P.That is Her will, and on behalf of Her, the World Council will be acting.Shri MatajiAny advice from him should not be accepted at all.Sir C.P.Is that clear to everyone?Shri MatajiAny advice from him should not be accepted at all.Sir C.P.That is Her will and She asked me to convey this, and I am conveying it to you.Shri MatajiAny advice from him should not be accepted at all.THE "OF COURSE! SCENARIO"i did not like the original scenario where Shri Mataji was expected to say "OF COURSE". So... in this scenario... i have Sir C.P. saying it instead:VioletSir C.P., you must be aware that Shri Mataji wrote a letter in reference to yourself, where She stated that: "Any advice from him should not be accepted at all."Sir C.P. OF COURSE!VioletSir... i therefore believe you should respect the Desire of Her Devotees to do just as Shri Mataji has requested.Sir C.P.OF COURSE!(END OF THE "OF COURSE! SCENARIO"... AND CONTINUATION OF SIR C.P.'S ADVICE TO SAHAJA YOGIS):Sir CPThe final authority is the World Council.Shri Mataji:Any advice from him should not be accepted at all.Sir CPEverything else emanates from the World Council.Shri MatajiAny advice from him should not be accepted at all.Sir C.P.Whatever decision is to be taken, the World Council takes, because that is Her will.Shri MatajiAny advice from him should not be accepted at all.Sir C.P.The Council represents Her will.Shri MatajiAny advice from him should not be accepted at all.Sir C.P.Alright?Shri MatajiAny advice from him should not be accepted at all.Sir C.P.So there should be no confusion in future.Shri MatajiAny advice from him should not be accepted at all.Sir C.P.That has been decided.Shri MatajiAny advice from him should not be accepted at all.Sir C.P.Thereafter, what happens where is a matter for the World Council to decide.Shri MatajiAny advice from him should not be accepted at all.Sir C.P.We have now to move forward, carry forward the message and act on that basis.VioletSir... it is more important to please Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi than 100,000 WCASY members! 'Why, after hearing the kind of advice you gave, i am not surprised at all that Shri Mataji said: "Any advice from him should not be accepted at all."violethttp://www.sahajayoga.org/swan/view/swan_512_2006.asphttp://www.adishakti.org/images/sm_1998_letter.JPG/message/6321?var=1 & l=1 , "Violet" <violet.tubb wrote:>> Dear All,> > Shri Mataji hand-wrote a letter, in which She advised Sahaja Yogis not to listen to "any" advice from her husband. Here is that letter:> > To Whomsoever It May Concern:> > "I want to state that nobody has any right on my body, without my permission. I should not be treated by any doctor vidya or any other person. Specially my husband and my family members should not at all have any say in my sickness. No one has to admit me in any hospital. Even Sahaja Yogis can not admit me in the hospital or treat me or arrange any doctor for treatment for me. I want to declare that my family should never admit me in the hospital. Specially my husband has no right over my body AND ANY ADVICE FROM HIM SHOULD NOT BEACCEPTED AT ALL. In short, I do not want to be admitted in any hospital by anyone. Before my death I will write what is to be done with my body."> (sg. Mataji Nirmala devi - Mrs. Nirmala Srivastava 10th Dec. 1998)> http://www.adishakti.org/images/sm_1998_letter.JPG> > The letter above looks just like a letter a person would write, if they want to be sure that they are treated... "or not treated" according to their own wishes. Shri Mataji seems to be acknowledging in the above letter that She is already having... or will be having 'a sickness'. i imagine a letter like that would not be liked by any husband or family (whoever they are)... yet every individual has exactly that right... to write such a letter, expressing their wishes... if they so please.> > And... Shri Mataji has such a right too. Just because She also is the Incarnation of the Adi Shakti, does not mean others have rights over Her Body or even over Her Will. In fact, She is clearly asserting in this letter that neither her husband, her family, or Sahaja Yogis have any rights over her body... without Her express permission:> > "I want to state that nobody has any right on my body, without my permission."> > Therefore... in hindsight... perhaps that Drama in Italy was a Drama of Dharma to protect our Mother. i am sure i could hear the rumbling of a Quick Exit all the way from Down Under. i have never seen nor heard of Shri Mataji ever making such a speedy exit... especially when Her Children from Italy and other countries, were just wanting to make sure that Her wish (as per the above letter) was being upheld. Therefore... it would appear, that the benefit of the QUICK EXIT was for WCASY and Co, who of course flew at lightning speed over the Atlantic Ocean into the Sheltering Reprieve of Alan Wherry Country... "USA". In their happiness at a World First, the Italians were forgotten. What the Italians and others had to say... was dismissed. Any leaders involved... were sacked. The media blitz made the Italians and others "at fault" and made the WCASY look like the Heroes that Rescued Their Mother". i am sure, according to them... if the Letter were followed, She would not be given medications, unless She approved them... and to WCASY et al... their Worldview appears to be that "no medication for Shri Mataji's sickness spells bodily danger". i really believe they convinced themselves that they were rescuing Shri Mataji from the Italians. That is how it came across anyway.> > Here is the letter to "My dear Modi and other Sahaja Yogis" (of which the original was handwritten by SM)... and please pay special attention to Shri Mataji's Worldview of Her Body and what it is meant to undergo for the mission for which it has been taken, and that therefore She is not bothered. She talks about working under anaesthesia... folks. This is not a normal lady... lets face it! She also says that She "never has pains". This is an official letter which She wanted everyone to see and read, because it gave us Her Bodily Worldview. (However, as Shri Mataji is 'wont to do'... She again hides this information very cleverly "right out in the open" to be discovered... if we "really look".)> > Here then is the letter, which She gave to Modi... with the request to "please circulate this letter among all Sahaja Yogis":> > My dear Modi and other Sahaja Yogis,> > Many blessings. Received your letter. I am very glad to know that> your Ida Nadi has become clean and I hope, Ida Nadis of all have> become clean at least to some extent. Here I had told all that I> would work, while under anaesthesia, to clean the Ida channels of> all. I worked for 3 days cleaning it by vomiting nearly 50 times> every day and it is nice that the cleaning has become possible.> > This physical being has to be used for the mission for which it has> been taken and therefore I am not bothered by the illness and other> troubles. On the contrary all such and different experiments with> this incarnation will have to be performed.> > Why are you so anxious about it? What else is the use of this body?> I never have any pains. All I want is that, in the laboratory of> this body, some work or the other must go on. Time is short while> the work to be done is very big.> > You cannot do the cleaning of Ida channel only on the strength of> your realisation. I knew that it had to be cleaned from within.> > In ancient days all seekers had to do this action (Kriya) constantly> right from their childhood at the residences of their gurus at> isolated places. The seekers had to do it individually in many> lives. Because, now you have attained the state of collectivity I> have done it in collective consciousness.> > Although you say I have done it, the distinction of you and I should> not be there in collective consciousness. Mantras ''Twam Bhawani,> Twam Durga, Twam Ambika etc.'' are good for Ida Channel, but when> you are established in Sahaja Yoga, you will have to say 'Aham> Bhavani'. However this Mantra can be said only when your purity> becomes one with that of 'Aham Bhavani' and I tell you now itself> that this will happen.> > After cleaning the Ida Channel I am awakening Pingala Nadi.> Sahaja Yogis had become rather lethargic due to the conditioning of> Ida Channel. Laziness and a tendency of avoiding the work was> dominating in them. Their attention was being frittered away on> avoiding the work. But I have now started the work of awakening> Pingala Channel. All of you should raise your right hand from right> side over your head and leave it on the left side but while doing> it, you must apply your will power so that your desires will> materialize.> > With the awakening of collectivity, you will have many people to> share your work which you are doing alone.> > The sphere of Sahasrara envelops your heart. When conditioning of> heart is reduced, as if the glass of a lamp becomes clean, rays of> ever resplendent Spirit awaken Sahasrara sheath and the light of> bliss spreads, which is felt in Sahasrara. This light enlightens all> sides of colourful heart and decorates it with the qualities which> can be described as pleasing, blissful etc. Gradually this state> will grow and become stable within you.> > Most of the Sahaja Yogis should try this method, but there should> not be merely the mechanical movement of hands. Whatever you do, it> should be done with the faith that you have in worshipping, zeal of> a warrior and sensitivity of an artist. There should be complete> purity in the recitation of Mantras to awaken the deities and your> heart must be involved in it. Only then the awakening will take> place.> > You should understand a simple principle. How can a big fire be lit> with a small match stick? Will a wick hold the flame if water is> mixed in the oil? How can those Sahaja Yogis have enlightenment who> are using Sahaja Yoga to solve only their own petty problems? And> why should God give them the enlightenment? Lighthouses do not show> light to themselves even for a moment. Therefore, they are> considered so important and are looked after.> > Please circulate this letter among all Sahaja Yogis.> > Your Mother - NIRMALA> > > So... please note especially these words:> > "Why are you so anxious about it? What else is the use of this body? I never have any pains. All I want is that, in the laboratory of this body, some work or the other must go on. Time is short while the work to be done is very big." (End Quote) (Given what Shri Mataji says in these amazing words, and given what She says in the "To Whomsoever It May Concern" letter about not wanting hospitals... it can be seen that the Spirit in the two letters indicate a 'same personality' with a similar 'bodily worldview'.> > i believe it was not long after that the Big Announcement with the Infamous Response of "OF COURSE!" was recorded. A dramatic Letter of Shri Mataji's that the Italians 'surfaced'... obviously demanded an equally dramatic and unprecedented "OF COURSE" from Shri Mataji. It was amazing how the two words of "Of Course"... made the world "so right" for WCASY and Co. However, the question needs to be asked:> Did those two words of "OF COURSE" also 'make the world right' for Mother?"> > Because i have a few questions:> > Why did WCASY not do the right thing and get a Handwriting Expert on the spot to clear any confusion and authenticate the Letter that the Italians claim Shri Mataji wrote? Because as administrators of Sahaja Yoga Organisation, they owe at least 'that much' to Sahaja Yogis worldwide. That they did not 'do so' (that is get a handwriting expert) to verify the Letter... implicates WCASY very much... as not doing the right thing.> > Now the job of WCASY as administration, is essentially communication:> "Leaders should be very careful. They should become free of all arrogance. They are only a communication link, like I have to put a letter in the envelope and post it." (Gudi Padwa - 24 March, 1993)> (Excerpt Australian Sahaja Newsletter - 10 Feb. 1996)> > However, the communication severely broke down on two counts. The first count was the failure to get a Handwriting Expert to authenticate the Letter. The second, was to flee the country. Am i awake or am i dreaming or am i under some illusion? Because not to get a Handwriting Expert, and to flee the country at breakneck speed. What does that indicate? (rhetorical question)> > So... 'as already given'... Shri Mataji has stated in Her (regarding her husband) that:> > "Any advice from him should not be accepted at all".> > That was probably the teensy weensy bit in the letter that WCASY hated, and decided the better option was to get out of Italy real fast.> > So... what is this advice that Shri Mataji said "should not be accepted at all"? Here it is:> > > Sir CP:> "One thing I want to mention - World Council - is that She (Shri Mataji) desires for me to convey to you that the World Council is the highest authority in Sahaja Yoga, representing Her will. And this will be, the World Council, will be the final deciding authority in Sahaja Yoga collectives. There should be no doubt about that. That is Her will, and on behalf of Her, the World Council will be acting. Is that clear to everyone? That is Her will and She asked me to convey this, and I am conveying it to you."> > Sir CP:> "The final authority is the World Council. Everything else emanates from the World Council. Whatever decision is to be taken, the World Council takes, because that is Her will. The Council represents Her will. Alright? So there should be no confusion in future. That has been decided. Thereafter, what happens where is a matter for the World Council to decide. We have now to move forward, carry forward the message and act on that basis."> > (Btw... in between the two paragraphs of Sir C.P.'s was the famous alleged "OF COURSE" from Shri Mataji.)> > Now... lets remember that Shri Mataji advised us not to listen to any advice that Sir C.P. gave. As Sir C.P. was "giving advice" to which Shri Mataji 'supposedly agreed'... this is proof that Shri Mataji did not know what She was saying 'of course' to. If She knew what She was supposedly saying 'of course' too, She would not have agreed with it. All you have to do is read Her Letter to know She would not have agreed with it:> > To Whomsoever It May Concern:> > "I want to state that nobody has any right on my body, without my permission. I should not be treated by any doctor vidya or any other person. Specially my husband and my family members should not at all have any say in my sickness. No one has to admit me in any hospital. Even Sahaja Yogis can not admit me in the hospital or treat me or arrange any doctor for treatment for me. I want to declare that my family should never admit me in the hospital. Specially my husband has no right over my body and any advice from him should not be accepted at all. In short, I do not want to be admitted in any hospital by anyone. Before my death I will write what is to be done with my body."> (sg. Mataji Nirmala devi - Mrs. Nirmala Srivastava 10th Dec. 1998)> http://www.adishakti.org/images/sm_1998_letter.JPG> > Lets also not forget that the astrologers predictions are already coming true:> > "The T-square formations between Moon-Mars, Venus, Jupiter and Neptune, indicate that some of the plans of Mataji might be hindered by obstructive activities of evil and negative forces." (End Quote)> > (This part of the prediction has already come true. WCASY have obstructed knowledge of Shri Mataji's Identity, as well as Her Message of the Last Judgment and Resurrection to the world-at-large. The astrologer's description of "obstructive activities of evil and negative forces" sounds 'spot on' too.)> > "Also Mataji might have to steer through conflicting loyalties and aims, of some of her so-called followers who are enemies in disguise."> (End Quote)> > (We have shown how time and again that there are many "so-called-followers" who are not following Shri Mataji's Leading at all. That they are enemies in disguise is becoming very apparent. The episode in Italy, i think, is a prime example. i think this prediction has also already come true.)> > "But despite all this, she will find her way to the goal of her life, viz., universal Self-Realization!".> /message/6321> > violet> > > , "jagbir> singh" <adishakti_org@> wrote:> >> > >> > > This incident is evidence that Shri Mataji does not talk to Sir CP> > > as has been claimed by WCASY and himself. It is just not true as> > > She has stopped talking due to the medication administered to Her.> > >> >> > Shri Mataji used to be a prolific talker who literally spent the> > last three decades traversing and criss-crossing the globe every> > year in an effort to enlighten humanity. We all know the prodigious> > time and effort spent by Her in talking with fellow human beings,> > sometimes for hours at end. She promised to spread Sahaja Yoga> > before attaining Mahasamadhi.> >> > Then a minor incident in April 2003 snowballed into what we have> > today. Shri Mataji, then an octogenarian, had some hallucinations.> > It ended with Her being given an anti-psychotic drug Risperidone.> >> > Since being given medication She has not communicated with any> > person in any meaningful way over the last three years. i thought> > the medication was the cause of Her inability to talk. However today> > i have realized that is NOT THE CASE! Risperidone does not silence> > the patient.> >> > "Side Effects> >> > RISPERDAL® (risperidone) is generally safe and effective for> > treating the symptoms of schizophrenia.> >> > With any medication, some people have side effects and some don't.> > If you have any side effects with RISPERDAL, or feel you're not> > getting better, please talk to your doctor.> >> > The most common side effects that may occur with RISPERDAL are:> > anxiety, sleepiness, restlessness, tremors, and muscle stiffness;> > dizziness, constipation, nausea, indigestion, runny nose, rash, and> > rapid heartbeat.> >> > Studies suggest an increased risk of elevated blood sugar-related> > side effects, and sometimes potentially fatal, in patients treated> > with this class of medications, including RISPERDAL. Some people may> > need regular blood sugar testing.> >> > Some people taking RISPERDAL may feel faint or lightheaded when they> > stand up or sit up too quickly. By standing up or sitting up slowly> > and following your doctor's dosing instructions, this side effect> > may be reduced or it may go away over time.> >> > You may have heard the term "extrapyramidal symptoms (EPS)." These> > are usually reversible movement disorders or muscle disturbances,> > such as restlessness, tremors, and muscle stiffness. Some people> > taking RISPERDAL have these side effects. In clinical studies, these> > side effects were uncommon at lower doses, but did increase with> > higher doses. If you have these symptoms, talk to your doctor.> >> > You may have heard the term "tardive dyskinesia." These are> > potentially irreversible, uncontrollable, slow or jerky facial or> > body movements that can be caused by all medications of this type> > (antipsychotics). If you have these symptoms, talk to your doctor.> > Only your doctor should adjust your dose or stop your medication."> >> > www.risperdal.com/> >> >> > So why is Shri Mataji so silent for so long? It is as if Shri> > Mahamaya is playing a game with those who have boldly hijacked Her> > Will and now raised and praised Sir CP to be the incarnation of Shri> > Shiva. Sir Shiva, in return for such a blessing, has empowered WCASY> > to act as judge, jury and executioner.> >> > Violet has raised a very troubling point that also pricked my> > conscience:> >> > "Here then is the advice given from the person of whom Shri Mataji> > wrote: "Any advice from him should not be accepted at all."> > (http://www.adishakti.org/images/sm_1998_letter.JPG) When you read> > what he advised... i am sure it will become clear why Shri Mataji> > told us not to listen to him:> >> > Sir CP:> >> > "One thing I want to mention - World Council - is that She (Shri> > Mataji) desires for me to convey to you that the World Council is> > the highest authority in Sahaja Yoga, representing Her will. And> > this will be, the World Council, will be the final deciding> > authority in Sahaja Yoga collectives. There should be no doubt about> > that. That is Her will, and on behalf of Her, the World Council will> > be acting. Is that clear to everyone? That is Her will and She asked> > me to convey this, and I am conveying it to you. The final authority> > is the World Council. Everything else emanates from the World> > Council. Whatever decision is to be taken, the World Council takes,> > because that is Her will. The Council represents Her will. Alright?> > So there should be no confusion in future. That has been decided.> > Thereafter, what happens where is a matter for the World Council to> > decide. We have now to move forward, carry forward the message and> > act on that basis."> >> > http://www.sahajayoga.org/swan/view/swan_512_2006.asp> > /message/> 6321?threaded=1 & l=1> >> > "The T-square formations between Moon-Mars, Venus, Jupiter and> > Neptune, indicate that some of the plans of Mataji might be hindered> > by obstructive activities of evil and negative forces. Also Mataji> > might have to steer through conflicting loyalties and aims, of some> > of her so-called followers who are enemies in disguise. But despite> > all this, she will find her way to the goal of her life, viz.,> > universal Self-Realization!".> >> > /message/6321> >> > That brings us back to the same question: But why is Shri Mataji> > silent for so long and continues to bear witness to the official> > orgies of the copulating parties tightly locked in embrace in their> > lust for power and self-aggrandizement?> >> > But then She promised to spread Sahaja Yoga before attaining> > Mahasamadhi. i know Her deafening silence has begun raising> > outsiders who will complete that task, and continue long after She> > has left. Shri Mataji has steered through the conflicting loyalties> > and aims of some of her so-called followers who are enemies in> > disguise. Despite all this, She has found the way to the goal of Her> > life, viz., universal Self-Realization! There is nothing WCASY or> > Sir Shiva can do to stop Her now. It does not matter anymore if Sir> > Shiva does not agree to uphold the truth of www.adishakti.org and> > www.al-qiyamah.org which Dr. B presented and made clear to him in a> > lengthy letter that called for his unconditional duty towards Shri> > Mataji. It is obvious that WCASY and Sir Shiva work hand in glove to> > suppress Shri Mataji's Divine Message to humanity, and both have> > made clear their intentions and we have evidence. The Adi Shakti,> > both within and without, knows that neither WCASY nor Sir CP is> > interested in propagating Her incarnation and Message.> >> > i know deep in my heart that Shri Mataji did not summoned Dr. B to> > examine Her ear. In Her silence She has exposed all those who work> > against Her, specifically her husband Sir Shiva. She also laid bare> > the boldness and blasphemy humans are capable of, acts they would> > shuddered of committing when She was in Her element. Perhaps this> > was to be Her final act to expose the negativity that has> > overwhelmed the Sahaja Yoga organization. Perhaps all this is a> > harbinger of the trials and tribulations to be faced by the> > faithful, concerend and conscientious after She departs.> >> > Remember the supreme devotion (parabhakti) She has described? That> > is your only sanctuary now ............. seek Her within!> >> > Jagbir> >> >> > Note: John Noyce, please sent a copy of this email to WCASY and Sir> Shiva.> >> >> >> >> > , "jagbir singh"> > <adishakti_org@> wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Xxxxxx,> > >> > > Thank you for this 'shocking' mail. i did not know Sir CP is now> > > regarded as Shiva. Shri Mataji never ever even once hinted that> her> > > husband was in any way divine. On the contrary, She did lament> that> > > even Her own family (husband and children) do not recognize Her.> > > How come now when Shri Mataji is old, drugged and incapacitated we> > > start hearing of things She never said? i.e., words are put in Her> > > mouth because She refuses to say so on Her own.> > >> > > So maybe we will have to wait for Sir C P to officially announce> > > that he is Shiva. Perhaps then WCASY can request SYs to start> > > meditating on his lotus feet too.> > >> > > regards,> > >> > > jagbir> > >> > >> > > Note: i just realized that WCASY's Sir Shiva has a serious> > > credibility problem that will now haunt all of them. It is as if> > > Shri Mataji knew what was coming and gifted the guilty parties> with> > > enough rope to hang all who participated in this terrible> > > transgression and blasphemy despite Shri Mataji's explicit> > > instructions: "Specially my husband has no right over my body and> > > any advice from him should not be accepted at all".> > >> > > Why do i have this feeling that WCASY's Sir Shiva will need a lot> > > of smoke and mirrors to pull this off?............. sorry, i> forgot> > > wool for SYs. But does Sir C P know he has been elevated to Shiva> > > by WCASY, perhaps without his knowledge or consent? WCASY is more> > > sinister than we think ............... and time will tell.> > >> > >> > > >> > > > Dear All,> > > >> > > > i read Shri Mataji's 1998 letter again and compared it with Her> > > > previous chakra notes. Even with the brief notes i found that> > > > letters "a, b, d. h. m, n, r, y" matched in both documents i.e.,> > > > there is no need for a handwriting expert. By all means Shri> > > > Mataji did write the letter below to all SYs and is no forgery.> > > > So what did She declare to all SYs?> > > >> > > >> > > > To whomsoever it may concern> > > >> > > > I want to state that nobody has any right on my body, without my> > > > permission I should not be treated by any doctor vidya or any> > > > other person.> > > >> > > > Specially my husband and my family members should not at all> have> > > > any say in my sickness, no one has to admit me in any hospital.> > > > Even Sahaja Yogis cannot admit me to the hospital or treat me or> > > > arrange any doctor for treatment for me.> > > >> > > > I want to declare that my family should never never admit me in> > > > the hospital. Specially my husband has no right over my body and> > > > any advice from him should not be accepted at all. In short I do> > > > not want to be admitted in any hospital by anyone.> > > >> > > > Before my death I will write what is to be done with my body.> > > >> > > > sg. Mataji Nirmala Devi> > > > Mrs. Nirmala Srivastava> > > > 10th. Dec 1998> > > >> > > > http://www.adishakti.org/images/sm_1998_letter.JPG> > > >> > > >> > >> > > Dear Jagbir,> > >> > > Jai Shri Mataji! We're so glad to have been told about your Shri> > > Adishakti website because it has been very difficult and> frustrated> > > of not being able to express our views in these past two years due> > > to the total control of the Sahaj official website and national> > > websites around the world by WCASY and their followers.> > >> > > My husband and I, who have been in Sahaj for more than 20 years,> > > truly admire you and your family for having such tremendous> courage> > > and inner strength to stand up for the Truth and sticking to your> > > principles because we also have been subjected to similar fate as> > > you have been through in the past 3 years. We also have great> > > admiration for those true yogis like Sergei, Guido, Derek, Al> > > Ganesh, Henry Ho, the late Dr. Harald Knobel, Avinash and several> > > more of my true brothers and sisters, whose characters have been> > > tarnished, vilified and defamed publicly around the world in> recent> > >; years by WCASY and their followers. How many times have Shri> Mataji> > > talked of Love? It is so apparent that after all these years> > > they've never felt God's love in their heart and this is why so> > > many of them have fallen in the spider's web.> > >> > > However much they try to attack and discredit me, they can never> > > ever ever destroy my spirit, my faith and my love for Shri Mataji> > > which are a permanent fixture in my heart! I must say, there have> > > been times when the attacks they inflicted upon me was so> > > horrendous that it has posed risk to my health and danger to me> > > and my family, I thought I would not be able to last any longer.> > > My survival through this awful time only comes from the> > > protection, guidance and love of Shri Mataji and using clearing> > > and cleansing techniques which She has recommended to us on a> > > regular basis. She would come into my dreams regularly before,> > > during or after an attack either to forewarn, to indicate, to> > > soothe, to advice, to love, to correct or to reassure me.> > >> > > My family and I withdrew from the collective which has nothing to> > > do of how we've been treated, but it has to do of how they,> > > disgustingly, have been treating our Holy Divine Mother, God> > > Almighty, Shri Adi Shakti for the past 3 and a half years. Often I> > > would cry my eyes out and feel so ashamed of us as human beings> who> > > have been giving the greatest blessing of all and look at what> > > they've done in the name of God. They violate Her Divine body by> > > silen(cing) Her with this anti-psychotic drug, they parade Her> > > around without any respect for Her physical well being, they have> > > group photos taken with Shri Mataji in order to pamper their ego,> > > they totally disregard all protocols which are needed to be> > > observed for Shri Adi Shakti, they anointed and pontificated Sir C> > > P and claimed publicly that Shri Mataji speaks through him and> > > that he is Shiva, they sanctified Kalpina and Sadna by using shri> > > before their names, they show photo of Sir C P's feet in the> > > official website, they praised Sir C P by chanting "Bolo, shri> > > papaji qui jay!" at the last Diwali puja, and finally, the> > > ultimate sin committed against Shri Mataji is that they are doing> > > their utmost to destroy by politicising, organising and distorting> > > the teachings and works of God Almighty!> > >> > > Shri Mataji has said that She is the Adi Shakti and She is the> only> > > Incarnation on this earth, are they deaf or what? For all the> years> > > we've been in Sahaj, of course we've great respect Sir C P and his> > > family, we never once regarded them as SYs. The only member of the> > > family who is a SY was Shri Mataji's beloved brother, BabaMama. I> > > would like to ask if anybody has witnessed any members of the> > > family worship, meditate and bow to Shri Mataji at pujas in all> > > these years?> > >> > > I know that those who are now considered as 'outsiders' will> > > continue carrying the divine flame of Shri Mataji's and no one on> > > this earth, particularly the WCASY and their followers, can stop> us> > > from spreading the True Message of our Holy Divine Mother.> Gregoire> > > had mentioned about fear in us, but do they have fear of the wrath> > > of God?> > >> > > Jagbir, we'll keep in touch.> > >> > > Love,> > >> > > Xxxxxxx> > >> >> > Sir CP had no right to make public Shri Mataji's medical health and> > file> >> > Dear Xxxxxxx,> >> > i consider Sir C P's divulging of Shri Mataji's medical health and> > history to all SY leaders as one of the greatest misfortune in> > Sahaja Yoga history. Such matters were supposed to be strictly> > confidential that, in order to be made public, required the express> > permission of Shri Mataji due to the highly damaging and explosive> > nature of the medical file.> >> >> > WHAT INFORMATION IS SUBJECT TO PROTECTIONS CONCERNING MEDICAL RECORD> > CONFIDENTIALITY?> >> > Any information about you, whether in electronic or physical form,> > regarding your medical history, mental or physical condition, or> > treatment is subject to California laws protecting your medical> > record confidentiality.> >> > WHAT DOES AN AUTHORIZATION FORM FOR RELEASE OF MY MEDICAL RECORDS> > HAVE TO INCLUDE TO BE VALID?> >> > To be valid, an authorization form used by health care providers,> > HMOs and health care contractors must:> >> > Be handwritten by you (or your authorized representative signing the> > authorization form) or be typewritten in no smaller than 8-point> > type.> >> > Be clearly separate from any other language on the same page and> > have a line for your signature that serves no purpose other than to> > authorize the release of your information.> >> > Be signed by one of the following:> >> > -- you, the patient,> > -- your legal representative if you are a minor or incompetent,> > -- the beneficiary or personal representative of a deceased patient,> > -- or your spouse or person financially responsible for you for the> > sole purpose of processing an application for health care insurance> > or enrollment in a health care service plan or employee benefit plan> > when you are to be an enrolled spouse or dependent under the policy> > or plan.> > -- Specify the uses and limitations on the types of medical> > information to be disclosed,> >; -- Specify the name or functions of the health care provider that> > may disclose the information,> > -- State the name or functions of the persons or entities authorized> > to receive the medical information,> > -- State the specific uses and limitations on the use of the medical> > information by the persons or entities authorized to receive the> > medical information,> > -- State a specific date after which the health care provider is no> > longer authorized to disclose your medical record information, and> > -- State that you have a right to receive a copy of the> > authorization.12> >> > CAN MY DOCTOR OR HMO RELEASE MY MEDICAL RECORDS WITHOUT MY CONSENT?> >> > Yes, but only in certain limited situations when necessary to> > provide you with appropriate health care. Your doctor or HMO is> > required to release your medical record information, even without> >; your written authorization, to the following:> >> > A court pursuant to a court order.> >> > A board, commission, or administrative agency for purposes of> > resolving a dispute pursuant to its lawful authority.> >> > A party to a proceeding before a court or administrative agency> > pursuant to an investigative subpoena.> >> > An arbitrator or arbitration panel, when arbitration is lawfully> > requested by either party pursuant to a subpoena.> >> > A government law enforcement agency pursuant to a search warrant> >> > http://www.calpatientguide.org/iii.html> >> >> > None of the above conditions or reasons were met.> >> > Yes, some SYs may wonder why am i saying it only now. Well, i was> > under the impression that the 10th. Dec 1998 letter of Shri Mataji> > was a forgery i.e., She never wrote it. Only lately i realized that> > She did in fact write it and Her instructions were crystal clear and> > unequivocal.> >> > If WCASY had sided with Her instead of Sir CP, or at least got Her> > express permission first for medical treatment and release of> > information, the present crisis would not have come. After all, how> > difficult was it for them to ask Shri Mataji on probably Her most> > important personal desire? WCASY seems to have all the time and> > luxury to ask 1001 mundane questions but not concerning Her express> > written order!!!??? How many of you would want your medical file be> > made public without your permission? This reeks of a most> > frightening negativity and foul play!> >> > So SYs now think that WCASY's claim that Shri Mataji speaks through> > Sir CP is true and that he is Shiva? Let me tell you something to> > the contrary.> >> > Last year a SY ENT expert, Dr. B, was summoned to Genoa, Italy by> > Sir CP to treat Shri Mataji's ear as She is hard of hearing. At the> > appointed hour Dr. B met Sir CP and Shri Mataji. Dr. B asked Shri> > Mataji if She wanted to be treated. There was no reply from Her.> > Then Dr. B again asked in a louder voice if he could examine Her.> > Again Shri Mataji remained silent.> >> > It was then when Sir CP told Dr. B to go ahead as She had agreed.> > Dr. B was quite shocked by Sir CP's insincerity since Shri Mataji> > never gave any verbal hint or physical gesture that She can be> > examined. Dr. B then silently asked Her for forgiveness as he was> > about to perform an ear examination without Her permission. This> > incident is evidence that Shri Mataji does not talk to Sir CP as has> > been claimed by WCASY and himself. It is just not true as She has> > stopped talking due to the medication administered to Her.> >> > WCASY's claim that Sir CP is Shiva is just pure fabrication. It was> > necessary for WCASY to bestow divinity on him as Sir CP holds the de> > facto power in the organization, not Shri Mataji. She is now reduced> > to a mere puppet involuntarily holding a rubber stamp that is used> > by WCASY to endorse and bless any undertaking - from assassinating> > Guido, poisoning Avinash, garroting Perezhogin to suppressing my> > websites and demonizing my children. WCASY and their hired hit man> > Alan Wherry is rumored to have now set the crosshair on Derek Lee.> > Yes, WCASY claims that all such acts have the blessings of Shri> > Mataji who 'speaks' through Sir Shiva ................. just ask> > Dr. B and you will know how much Shri Mataji's talks to Sir CP, in> > public or private.> >> > But the main question is: "Did Sir CP have Shri Mataji's permission> > to make public Her medical health and file"? i have the right to ask> > because WCASY and Sir CP are now putting too many words in Her> > incapacitated mouth. Their outrageous claim that Sir CP is actually> > Shiva is the last straw. Tens of thousands of SYs are either too> > blissfully unaware or unfortunately dull to comprehend what is at> > stake! It is outsiders like us who have to wake them up.> >> > Everything will be alright one day – i am sure too that the darkest> > hour comes just before dawn. Your Mother Kundalini within is> > recording all during the Last Judgment! Don't be fooled by humans> > who claim to be Her Will or Shiva. The Devi within has no partners> > or spouse. Even Shri Shiva meditates on Her! So do all others - Shri> > Ganesha, Jesus, Krishna, Radha, Rama, Sita, Brahma, Saraswati,> > Prophet Muhammad, Guru Nanak, Mahavira, Buddha - and all liberated> > souls in the Spirit World. So stand your sacred ground and don't> > budge an inch. Gladly leave the organization to continue on your own> > but don't ever sell your soul to WCASY or Sir Shiva. Your allegiance> > and attention at all times must be exclusively, unconditionally and> > without any question whatsoever on the Adi Shakti, the Devi within:> >> > "Now listen attentively about the supreme devotion (parabhakti)> > which I will now describe to you. He always hears my glories and> > recites my name. His mind always dwells in me, like the incessant> > flow of oil, and he is the receptacle of all good qualities and> > gunas. But he does not have the least trace of any desire to get the> > fruits of his actions (karma). Indeed, he does not want the various> > levels of release (moksha), including being on the same plane as God> > (salokya), nearness to God (samipya), having the form of God> > (sarsti), union with God (sayujya) and other forms of release.> > Devi continues noting that true worshipers abandons all concepts of> > themselves, completely identify themselves with Devi, and make no> > distinctions between themselves and anything else. Worshipers find> > Devi in everything, including other souls:> >> > He becomes filled with devotion for me alone, worships me only,> > knows nothing higher than to serve me, and he does not even want> > final release. He does not like neglecting the notions of "serving"> > (sevya) and the "servant who serves" (sevaka). He always meditates> > on me with a constant vigilance, actuated by a feeling of supreme> > devotion. He does not think of himself as separate from me, but> > rather thinks to himself, "I am the Lord (Bhagavati)." He considers> > all souls (jivas) as myself, and loves me as he loves himself. He> > makes no distinction between the souls and myself since he finds the> > same pure consciousness (caitanya) everywhere and manifested in all.> > He does not quarrel with anyone since he has abandoned all ideas of> > separateness. He bows down and worships the pure consciousness and> > all the souls. He becomes filled with the highest love when he sees> > my place, sees my devotees, hears the scriptures, describes my> > deeds, and meditates on my mantras. His hairs stand on end out of> > love for me and his tears of love flow incessantly from both of his> > eyes. He recites my name deeds in a voice that is choked with> > feelings of love for me. With intense feeling he worships me as the> > mother of this universe and the cause of all causes." 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Guest guest Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 Dear Suzy, In regards to 'strokes'... apparently the most common language disorder following a stroke is aphasia. Here is what it says about 'aphasia' in the Miller-Keane Encyclopedia & Dictionary of Medicine, Nursing & Allied Health (Sixth Edition): aphasia (ah-fa'shah) defect or loss of the power of expression by speech, writing, or signs, or of comprehension of spoken or written language, due to disease or injury of the brain centers, such as after STROKE SYNDROME on the left side. PATIENT CARE. Aphasia is a complex phenomenon manifested in numerous ways. The recovery period typically is very long, sometimes extending to months and years. Because communication is such a vital part of everyday living, loss of the capacity for verbal expression, whether in speaking or writing, can profoundly affect the personality and behaviour of an aphasic patient. Although aphasic persons usually require extensive treatment by specially trained speech therapists, all persons concerned with the care of the patient should practice techniques that will help minimize frustration and improve communication with the aphasic patient. In Potter & Perry's " Fundamentals of Nursing " p.1652-53... it says: Communication... The most common language disorder following a stroke is aphasia. As a result of a disruption in blood flow to the brain, the speech centre becomes damaged, altering a person's ability to either use or understand spoken words. Depending on the type of aphasia, the inability to communicate can be frustrating and frightening. Communication Methods (Clients with Aphasia): Listen to the client and wait for the client to communicate. Do not should or speak loudly (hearing loss is not the problem). If the client has problems with comprehension, use simple, short questions and facial gestures to give additional clues. Speak of things familiar and of interest to the client. If the client has problems speaking, ask questions that require simple yes or no answers or blinking of the eyes. Offer pictures or a communication board so that the client can point. Give the client time to understand; be calm and patient. Do not pressure or tire the client. Avoid patronising and childish phrases. The nurse should initially establish very basic communication and recognise that aphasia does not indicate intellectual impairment or degeneration of personality. The nurse explains situations and treatments that are pertinent to the client, since he or she may understand. Because a stroke often causes partial or complete paralysis of one side of the client's body, an aphasic client may need special asistive devices. There are communication boards that have been developed for several levels of disability. (End Quote) i would not be a bit surprised if Shri Mataji had a partial stroke. When i saw a picture of Her, i showed it to my husband who is a Registered Nurse (Division I). He has worked with people suffering from stroke and is experienced at picking up visual clues. He said to me: " It looks like She has had a partial stroke! " i have to say that when i looked at Her Photo, i actually thought the same, which is why i asked Peter to look at the Photo just to confirm my suspicions. However... 'given the above info'... there is no apparent reason why Shri Mataji should not attempt to communicate... " unless She does not want to. " Perhaps what Jagbir is saying... is more true than we " even care to believe " . i will repeat what Jagbir has written: " That brings us back to the same question: But why is Shri Mataji silent for so long and continues to bear witness to the official orgies of the copulating parties tightly locked in embrace in their lust for power and self-aggrandizement? But then She promised to spread Sahaja Yoga before attaining Mahasamadhi. i know Her deafening silence has begun raising outsiders who will complete that task, and continue long after She has left. Shri Mataji has steered through the conflicting loyalties and aims of some of her so-called followers who are enemies in disguise. Despite all this, She has found the way to the goal of Her life, viz., universal Self-Realization! There is nothing WCASY or Sir Shiva can do to stop Her now. It does not matter anymore if Sir Shiva does not agree to uphold the truth of www.adishakti.org and www.al-qiyamah.org which Dr. B presented and made clear to him in a lengthy letter that called for his unconditional duty towards Shri Mataji. It is obvious that WCASY and Sir Shiva work hand in glove to suppress Shri Mataji's Divine Message to humanity, and both have made clear their intentions and we have evidence. The Adi Shakti, both within and without, knows that neither WCASY nor Sir CP is interested in propagating Her Incarnation and Message. i know deep in my heart that Shri Mataji did not summoned Dr. B to examine Her ear. In Her silence She has exposed all those who work against Her, specifically her husband Sir Shiva. She also laid bare the boldness and blasphemy humans are capable of, acts they would shuddered of committing when She was in Her element. Perhaps this was to be Her final act to expose the negativity that has overwhelmed the Sahaja Yoga organization. Perhaps all this is a harbinger of the trials and tribulations to be faced by the faithful, concerned and conscientious after She departs. Remember the supreme devotion (parabhakti) She has described? That is your only sanctuary now ............. seek Her within! " (End Quote) What Jagbir says resonates as the truth to me. violet , Suzy Creamcheese <suzyogi wrote: > > Dear Violet, > > Or maybe Shri Mataji's body had a stroke. Makes sense since her left side seemed to be paralysed for some time (Although I saw her use her left hand at the 2006 Shri Krishna Puja). > Also makes sense that no one will admit to it, since if one has a stroke one needs medical attention immediately. Now, if the daughter took the time to call Sir CP and waited for his return before getting medical attention, as was reported some time back, > then it stands to reason that Shri Mataji's left side, speech and cognitive skills could be effected. Certainly the family would not want the knowledge to go out that they dragged their feet getting the proper attention. So, another problem is circulated as truth. Even if she has gotten her speech back, it may not be in the family's and WCASY's best interest to allow lectures as her cognitive skills may be effected. > > Just my theory but from what I've seen and heard the stroke theory may be based on a true hypothosis. > > Suzy > > > Violet <violet.tubb wrote: > Dear All, > > But why is Shri Mataji silent for so long and continues to bear witness? Perhaps the following is why Shri Mataji is silent for so long and continues to bear witness. > > violet > > Sir CP > One thing I want to mention - World Council - is that She (Shri > Mataji) desires for me to convey to you that the World Council is the > highest authority in Sahaja Yoga, representing Her will. > > Shri Mataji > Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. > > Sir C.P. > And this will be, the World Council, will be the final deciding > authority in Sahaja Yoga collectives. > > Shri Mataji > Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. > > Sir C.P. > There should be no doubt about that. > > Shri Mataji > Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. > > Sir C.P. > That is Her will, and on behalf of Her, the World Council will be > acting. > > Shri Mataji > Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. > > Sir C.P. > Is that clear to everyone? > > Shri Mataji > Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. > > Sir C.P. > That is Her will and She asked me to convey this, and I am conveying > it to you. > > Shri Mataji > Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. > > THE " OF COURSE! SCENARIO " > > i did not like the original scenario where Shri Mataji was expected to say " OF COURSE " . So... in this scenario... i have Sir C.P. saying it instead: > > Violet > Sir C.P., you must be aware that Shri Mataji wrote a letter in reference to yourself, where She stated that: " Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. " > > Sir C.P. > OF COURSE! > > Violet > Sir... i therefore believe you should respect the Desire of Her Devotees to do just as Shri Mataji has requested. > > Sir C.P. > OF COURSE! > > (END OF THE " OF COURSE! SCENARIO " ... AND CONTINUATION OF SIR C.P.'S ADVICE TO SAHAJA YOGIS): > > Sir CP > The final authority is the World Council. > > Shri Mataji: > Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. > > Sir CP > Everything else emanates from the World Council. > > Shri Mataji > Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. > > Sir C.P. > Whatever decision is to be taken, the World Council takes, because that is Her will. > > Shri Mataji > Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. > > Sir C.P. > The Council represents Her will. > > Shri Mataji > Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. > > Sir C.P. > Alright? > > Shri Mataji > Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. > > Sir C.P. > So there should be no confusion in future. > > Shri Mataji > Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. > > Sir C.P. > That has been decided. > > Shri Mataji > Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. > > Sir C.P. > Thereafter, what happens where is a matter for the World Council to decide. > > Shri Mataji > Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. > > Sir C.P. > We have now to move forward, carry forward the message and act on that basis. > > Violet > Sir... it is more important to please Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi than 100,000 WCASY members! > > 'Why, after hearing the kind of advice you gave, i am not surprised at all that Shri Mataji said: " Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. " > > violet > > http://www.sahajayoga.org/swan/view/swan_512_2006.asp > http://www.adishakti.org/images/sm_1998_letter.JPG > /message/ 6321?var=1 & l=1 > > , > " Violet " <violet.tubb@> wrote: > > > > Dear All, > > > > Shri Mataji hand-wrote a letter, in which She advised Sahaja Yogis > not to listen to " any " advice from her husband. Here is that letter: > > > > To Whomsoever It May Concern: > > > > " I want to state that nobody has any right on my body, without my > permission. I should not be treated by any doctor vidya or any other > person. Specially my husband and my family members should not at all > have any say in my sickness. No one has to admit me in any hospital. > Even Sahaja Yogis can not admit me in the hospital or treat me or > arrange any doctor for treatment for me. I want to declare that my > family should never admit me in the hospital. Specially my husband > has no right over my body AND ANY ADVICE FROM HIM SHOULD NOT BE > ACCEPTED AT ALL. In short, I do not want to be admitted in any > hospital by anyone. Before my death I will write what is to be done > with my body. " > > (sg. Mataji Nirmala devi - Mrs. Nirmala Srivastava 10th Dec. 1998) > > http://www.adishakti.org/images/sm_1998_letter.JPG > > > > The letter above looks just like a letter a person would write, if > they want to be sure that they are treated... " or not treated " > according to their own wishes. Shri Mataji seems to be acknowledging > in the above letter that She is already having... or will be having > 'a sickness'. i imagine a letter like that would not be liked by any > husband or family (whoever they are)... yet every individual has > exactly that right... to write such a letter, expressing their > wishes... if they so please. > > > > And... Shri Mataji has such a right too. Just because She also is > the Incarnation of the Adi Shakti, does not mean others have rights > over Her Body or even over Her Will. In fact, She is clearly > asserting in this letter that neither her husband, her family, or > Sahaja Yogis have any rights over her body... without Her express > permission: > > > > " I want to state that nobody has any right on my body, without my > permission. " > > > > Therefore... in hindsight... perhaps that Drama in Italy was a > Drama of Dharma to protect our Mother. i am sure i could hear the > rumbling of a Quick Exit all the way from Down Under. i have never > seen nor heard of Shri Mataji ever making such a speedy exit... > especially when Her Children from Italy and other countries, were > just wanting to make sure that Her wish (as per the above letter) was > being upheld. Therefore... it would appear, that the benefit of the > QUICK EXIT was for WCASY and Co, who of course flew at lightning > speed over the Atlantic Ocean into the Sheltering Reprieve of Alan > Wherry Country... " USA " . In their happiness at a World First, the > Italians were forgotten. What the Italians and others had to say... > was dismissed. Any leaders involved... were sacked. The media blitz > made the Italians and others " at fault " and made the WCASY look like > the Heroes that Rescued Their Mother " . i am sure, according to > them... if the Letter were followed, She would not be given > medications, unless She approved them... and to WCASY et al... their > Worldview appears to be that " no medication for Shri Mataji's > sickness spells bodily danger " . i really believe they convinced > themselves that they were rescuing Shri Mataji from the Italians. > That is how it came across anyway. > > > > Here is the letter to " My dear Modi and other Sahaja Yogis " (of > which the original was handwritten by SM)... and please pay special > attention to Shri Mataji's Worldview of Her Body and what it is meant > to undergo for the mission for which it has been taken, and that > therefore She is not bothered. She talks about working under > anaesthesia... folks. This is not a normal lady... lets face it! She > also says that She " never has pains " . This is an official letter > which She wanted everyone to see and read, because it gave us Her > Bodily Worldview. (However, as Shri Mataji is 'wont to do'... She > again hides this information very cleverly " right out in the open " to > be discovered... if we " really look " .) > > > > Here then is the letter, which She gave to Modi... with the request > to " please circulate this letter among all Sahaja Yogis " : > > > > My dear Modi and other Sahaja Yogis, > > > > Many blessings. Received your letter. I am very glad to know that > > your Ida Nadi has become clean and I hope, Ida Nadis of all have > > become clean at least to some extent. Here I had told all that I > > would work, while under anaesthesia, to clean the Ida channels of > > all. I worked for 3 days cleaning it by vomiting nearly 50 times > > every day and it is nice that the cleaning has become possible. > > > > This physical being has to be used for the mission for which it has > > been taken and therefore I am not bothered by the illness and other > > troubles. On the contrary all such and different experiments with > > this incarnation will have to be performed. > > > > Why are you so anxious about it? What else is the use of this body? > > I never have any pains. All I want is that, in the laboratory of > > this body, some work or the other must go on. Time is short while > > the work to be done is very big. > > > > You cannot do the cleaning of Ida channel only on the strength of > > your realisation. I knew that it had to be cleaned from within. > > > > In ancient days all seekers had to do this action (Kriya) constantly > > right from their childhood at the residences of their gurus at > > isolated places. The seekers had to do it individually in many > > lives. Because, now you have attained the state of collectivity I > > have done it in collective consciousness. > > > > Although you say I have done it, the distinction of you and I should > > not be there in collective consciousness. Mantras ''Twam Bhawani, > > Twam Durga, Twam Ambika etc.'' are good for Ida Channel, but when > > you are established in Sahaja Yoga, you will have to say 'Aham > > Bhavani'. However this Mantra can be said only when your purity > > becomes one with that of 'Aham Bhavani' and I tell you now itself > > that this will happen. > > > > After cleaning the Ida Channel I am awakening Pingala Nadi. > > Sahaja Yogis had become rather lethargic due to the conditioning of > > Ida Channel. Laziness and a tendency of avoiding the work was > > dominating in them. Their attention was being frittered away on > > avoiding the work. But I have now started the work of awakening > > Pingala Channel. All of you should raise your right hand from right > > side over your head and leave it on the left side but while doing > > it, you must apply your will power so that your desires will > > materialize. > > > > With the awakening of collectivity, you will have many people to > > share your work which you are doing alone. > > > > The sphere of Sahasrara envelops your heart. When conditioning of > > heart is reduced, as if the glass of a lamp becomes clean, rays of > > ever resplendent Spirit awaken Sahasrara sheath and the light of > > bliss spreads, which is felt in Sahasrara. This light enlightens all > > sides of colourful heart and decorates it with the qualities which > > can be described as pleasing, blissful etc. Gradually this state > > will grow and become stable within you. > > > > Most of the Sahaja Yogis should try this method, but there should > > not be merely the mechanical movement of hands. Whatever you do, it > > should be done with the faith that you have in worshipping, zeal of > > a warrior and sensitivity of an artist. There should be complete > > purity in the recitation of Mantras to awaken the deities and your > > heart must be involved in it. Only then the awakening will take > > place. > > > > You should understand a simple principle. How can a big fire be lit > > with a small match stick? Will a wick hold the flame if water is > > mixed in the oil? How can those Sahaja Yogis have enlightenment who > > are using Sahaja Yoga to solve only their own petty problems? And > > why should God give them the enlightenment? Lighthouses do not show > > light to themselves even for a moment. Therefore, they are > > considered so important and are looked after. > > > > Please circulate this letter among all Sahaja Yogis. > > > > Your Mother - NIRMALA > > > > > > So... please note especially these words: > > > > " Why are you so anxious about it? What else is the use of this > body? I never have any pains. All I want is that, in the laboratory > of this body, some work or the other must go on. Time is short while > the work to be done is very big. " (End Quote) (Given what Shri > Mataji says in these amazing words, and given what She says in the > " To Whomsoever It May Concern " letter about not wanting hospitals... > it can be seen that the Spirit in the two letters indicate a 'same > personality' with a similar 'bodily worldview'. > > > > i believe it was not long after that the Big Announcement with the > Infamous Response of " OF COURSE! " was recorded. A dramatic Letter of > Shri Mataji's that the Italians 'surfaced'... obviously demanded an > equally dramatic and unprecedented " OF COURSE " from Shri Mataji. It > was amazing how the two words of " Of Course " ... made the world " so > right " for WCASY and Co. However, the question needs to be asked: > > Did those two words of " OF COURSE " also 'make the world right' for > Mother? " > > > > Because i have a few questions: > > > > Why did WCASY not do the right thing and get a Handwriting Expert > on the spot to clear any confusion and authenticate the Letter that > the Italians claim Shri Mataji wrote? Because as administrators of > Sahaja Yoga Organisation, they owe at least 'that much' to Sahaja > Yogis worldwide. That they did not 'do so' (that is get a handwriting > expert) to verify the Letter... implicates WCASY very much... as not > doing the right thing. > > > > Now the job of WCASY as administration, is essentially > communication: > > " Leaders should be very careful. They should become free of all > arrogance. They are only a communication link, like I have to put a > letter in the envelope and post it. " (Gudi Padwa - 24 March, 1993) > > (Excerpt Australian Sahaja Newsletter - 10 Feb. 1996) > > > > However, the communication severely broke down on two counts. The > first count was the failure to get a Handwriting Expert to > authenticate the Letter. The second, was to flee the country. Am i > awake or am i dreaming or am i under some illusion? Because not to > get a Handwriting Expert, and to flee the country at breakneck speed. > What does that indicate? (rhetorical question) > > > > So... 'as already given'... Shri Mataji has stated in Her > (regarding her husband) that: > > > > " Any advice from him should not be accepted at all " . > > > > That was probably the teensy weensy bit in the letter that WCASY > hated, and decided the better option was to get out of Italy real > fast. > > > > So... what is this advice that Shri Mataji said " should not be > accepted at all " ? Here it is: > > > > > > Sir CP: > > " One thing I want to mention - World Council - is that She (Shri > Mataji) desires for me to convey to you that the World Council is the > highest authority in Sahaja Yoga, representing Her will. And this > will be, the World Council, will be the final deciding authority in > Sahaja Yoga collectives. There should be no doubt about that. That is > Her will, and on behalf of Her, the World Council will be acting. Is > that clear to everyone? That is Her will and She asked me to convey > this, and I am conveying it to you. " > > > > Sir CP: > > " The final authority is the World Council. Everything else emanates > from the World Council. Whatever decision is to be taken, the World > Council takes, because that is Her will. The Council represents Her > will. Alright? So there should be no confusion in future. That has > been decided. Thereafter, what happens where is a matter for the > World Council to decide. We have now to move forward, carry forward > the message and act on that basis. " > > > > (Btw... in between the two paragraphs of Sir C.P.'s was the famous > alleged " OF COURSE " from Shri Mataji.) > > > > Now... lets remember that Shri Mataji advised us not to listen to > any advice that Sir C.P. gave. As Sir C.P. was " giving advice " to > which Shri Mataji 'supposedly agreed'... this is proof that Shri > Mataji did not know what She was saying 'of course' to. If She knew > what She was supposedly saying 'of course' too, She would not have > agreed with it. All you have to do is read Her Letter to know She > would not have agreed with it: > > > > To Whomsoever It May Concern: > > > > " I want to state that nobody has any right on my body, without my > permission. I should not be treated by any doctor vidya or any other > person. Specially my husband and my family members should not at all > have any say in my sickness. No one has to admit me in any hospital. > Even Sahaja Yogis can not admit me in the hospital or treat me or > arrange any doctor for treatment for me. I want to declare that my > family should never admit me in the hospital. Specially my husband > has no right over my body and any advice from him should not be > accepted at all. In short, I do not want to be admitted in any > hospital by anyone. Before my death I will write what is to be done > with my body. " > > (sg. Mataji Nirmala devi - Mrs. Nirmala Srivastava 10th Dec. 1998) > > http://www.adishakti.org/images/sm_1998_letter.JPG > > > > Lets also not forget that the astrologers predictions are already > coming true: > > > > " The T-square formations between Moon-Mars, Venus, Jupiter and > Neptune, indicate that some of the plans of Mataji might be hindered > by obstructive activities of evil and negative forces. " (End Quote) > > > > (This part of the prediction has already come true. WCASY have > obstructed knowledge of Shri Mataji's Identity, as well as Her > Message of the Last Judgment and Resurrection to the world-at- large. > The astrologer's description of " obstructive activities of evil and > negative forces " sounds 'spot on' too.) > > > > " Also Mataji might have to steer through conflicting loyalties and > aims, of some of her so-called followers who are enemies in disguise. " > > (End Quote) > > > > (We have shown how time and again that there are many " so-called- > followers " who are not following Shri Mataji's Leading at all. That > they are enemies in disguise is becoming very apparent. The episode > in Italy, i think, is a prime example. i think this prediction has > also already come true.) > > > > " But despite all this, she will find her way to the goal of her > life, viz., universal Self-Realization! " . > > /message/6321 > > > > violet > > > > > > , " jagbir > > singh " <adishakti_org@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > This incident is evidence that Shri Mataji does not talk to Sir > CP > > > > as has been claimed by WCASY and himself. It is just not true as > > > > She has stopped talking due to the medication administered to > Her. > > > > > > > > > > Shri Mataji used to be a prolific talker who literally spent the > > > last three decades traversing and criss-crossing the globe every > > > year in an effort to enlighten humanity. We all know the > prodigious > > > time and effort spent by Her in talking with fellow human beings, > > > sometimes for hours at end. She promised to spread Sahaja Yoga > > > before attaining Mahasamadhi. > > > > > > Then a minor incident in April 2003 snowballed into what we have > > > today. Shri Mataji, then an octogenarian, had some hallucinations. > > > It ended with Her being given an anti-psychotic drug Risperidone. > > > > > > Since being given medication She has not communicated with any > > > person in any meaningful way over the last three years. i thought > > > the medication was the cause of Her inability to talk. However > today > > > i have realized that is NOT THE CASE! Risperidone does not silence > > > the patient. > > > > > > " Side Effects > > > > > > RISPERDAL® (risperidone) is generally safe and effective for > > > treating the symptoms of schizophrenia. > > > > > > With any medication, some people have side effects and some don't. > > > If you have any side effects with RISPERDAL, or feel you're not > > > getting better, please talk to your doctor. > > > > > > The most common side effects that may occur with RISPERDAL are: > > > anxiety, sleepiness, restlessness, tremors, and muscle stiffness; > > > dizziness, constipation, nausea, indigestion, runny nose, rash, > and > > > rapid heartbeat. > > > > > > Studies suggest an increased risk of elevated blood sugar- related > > > side effects, and sometimes potentially fatal, in patients treated > > > with this class of medications, including RISPERDAL. Some people > may > > > need regular blood sugar testing. > > > > > > Some people taking RISPERDAL may feel faint or lightheaded when > they > > > stand up or sit up too quickly. By standing up or sitting up > slowly > > > and following your doctor's dosing instructions, this side effect > > > may be reduced or it may go away over time. > > > > > > You may have heard the term " extrapyramidal symptoms (EPS). " These > > > are usually reversible movement disorders or muscle disturbances, > > > such as restlessness, tremors, and muscle stiffness. Some people > > > taking RISPERDAL have these side effects. In clinical studies, > these > > > side effects were uncommon at lower doses, but did increase with > > > higher doses. If you have these symptoms, talk to your doctor. > > > > > > You may have heard the term " tardive dyskinesia. " These are > > > potentially irreversible, uncontrollable, slow or jerky facial or > > > body movements that can be caused by all medications of this type > > > (antipsychotics). If you have these symptoms, talk to your doctor. > > > Only your doctor should adjust your dose or stop your medication. " > > > > > > www.risperdal.com/ > > > > > > > > > So why is Shri Mataji so silent for so long? It is as if Shri > > > Mahamaya is playing a game with those who have boldly hijacked Her > > > Will and now raised and praised Sir CP to be the incarnation of > Shri > > > Shiva. Sir Shiva, in return for such a blessing, has empowered > WCASY > > > to act as judge, jury and executioner. > > > > > > Violet has raised a very troubling point that also pricked my > > > conscience: > > > > > > " Here then is the advice given from the person of whom Shri Mataji > > > wrote: " Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. " > > > (http://www.adishakti.org/images/sm_1998_letter.JPG) When you read > > > what he advised... i am sure it will become clear why Shri Mataji > > > told us not to listen to him: > > > > > >; Sir CP: > > > > > > " One thing I want to mention - World Council - is that She (Shri > > > Mataji) desires for me to convey to you that the World Council is > > > the highest authority in Sahaja Yoga, representing Her will. And > > > this will be, the World Council, will be the final deciding > > > authority in Sahaja Yoga collectives. There should be no doubt > about > > > that. That is Her will, and on behalf of Her, the World Council > will > > > be acting. Is that clear to everyone? That is Her will and She > asked > > > me to convey this, and I am conveying it to you. The final > authority > > > is the World Council. Everything else emanates from the World > > > Council. Whatever decision is to be taken, the World Council > takes, > > > because that is Her will. The Council represents Her will. > Alright? > > > So there should be no confusion in future. That has been decided. > > > Thereafter, what happens where is a matter for the World Council > to > > > decide. We have now to move forward, carry forward the message and > > > act on that basis. " > > > > > > http://www.sahajayoga.org/swan/view/swan_512_2006.asp > > > /message/ > > 6321?threaded=1 & l=1 > > > > > > " The T-square formations between Moon-Mars, Venus, Jupiter and > > > Neptune, indicate that some of the plans of Mataji might be > hindered > > > by obstructive activities of evil and negative forces. Also Mataji > > > might have to steer through conflicting loyalties and aims, of > some > > > of her so-called followers who are enemies in disguise. But > despite > > > all this, she will find her way to the goal of her life, viz., > > > universal Self-Realization! " . > > > > > > /message/6321 > > > > > > That brings us back to the same question: But why is Shri Mataji > > > silent for so long and continues to bear witness to the official > > > orgies of the copulating parties tightly locked in embrace in > their > > > lust for power and self-aggrandizement? > > > > > > But then She promised to spread Sahaja Yoga before attaining > > > Mahasamadhi. i know Her deafening silence has begun raising > > > outsiders who will complete that task, and continue long after She > > > has left. Shri Mataji has steered through the conflicting > loyalties > > > and aims of some of her so-called followers who are enemies in > > > disguise. Despite all this, She has found the way to the goal of > Her > > > life, viz., universal Self-Realization! There is nothing WCASY or > > > Sir Shiva can do to stop Her now. It does not matter anymore if > Sir > > > Shiva does not agree to uphold the truth of www.adishakti.org and > > > www.al-qiyamah.org which Dr. B presented and made clear to him in > a > > > lengthy letter that called for his unconditional duty towards Shri > > > Mataji. It is obvious that WCASY and Sir Shiva work hand in glove > to > > > suppress Shri Mataji's Divine Message to humanity, and both have > > > made clear their intentions and we have evidence. The Adi Shakti, > > > both within and without, knows that neither WCASY nor Sir CP is > > > interested in propagating Her incarnation and Message. > > > > > > i know deep in my heart that Shri Mataji did not summoned Dr. B to > > > examine Her ear. In Her silence She has exposed all those who work > > > against Her, specifically her husband Sir Shiva. She also laid > bare > > > the boldness and blasphemy humans are capable of, acts they would > > > shuddered of committing when She was in Her element. Perhaps this > > > was to be Her final act to expose the negativity that has > > > overwhelmed the Sahaja Yoga organization. Perhaps all this is a > > > harbinger of the trials and tribulations to be faced by the > > > faithful, concerend and conscientious after She departs. > > > > > > Remember the supreme devotion (parabhakti) She has described? That > > > is your only sanctuary now ............. seek Her within! > > > > > > Jagbir > > > > > > > > > Note: John Noyce, please sent a copy of this email to WCASY and > Sir > > Shiva. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " jagbir singh " > > > <adishakti_org@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Xxxxxx, > > > > > > > > Thank you for this 'shocking' mail. i did not know Sir CP is now > > > > regarded as Shiva. Shri Mataji never ever even once hinted that > > her > > > > husband was in any way divine. On the contrary, She did lament > > that > > > > even Her own family (husband and children) do not recognize Her. > > > > How come now when Shri Mataji is old, drugged and incapacitated > we > > > > start hearing of things She never said? i.e., words are put in > Her > > > > mouth because She refuses to say so on Her own. > > > > > > > > So maybe we will have to wait for Sir C P to officially announce > > > > that he is Shiva. Perhaps then WCASY can request SYs to start > > > > meditating on his lotus feet too. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > jagbir > > > > > > > > > > > > Note: i just realized that WCASY's Sir Shiva has a serious > > > > credibility problem that will now haunt all of them. It is as if > > > > Shri Mataji knew what was coming and gifted the guilty parties > > with > > > > enough rope to hang all who participated in this terrible > > > > transgression and blasphemy despite Shri Mataji's explicit > > > > instructions: " Specially my husband has no right over my body > and > > > > any advice from him should not be accepted at all " . > > > > > > > > Why do i have this feeling that WCASY's Sir Shiva will need a > lot > > > > of smoke and mirrors to pull this off?............. sorry, i > > forgot > > > > wool for SYs. But does Sir C P know he has been elevated to > Shiva > > > > by WCASY, perhaps without his knowledge or consent? WCASY is > more > > > > sinister than we think ............... and time will tell. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > i read Shri Mataji's 1998 letter again and compared it with > Her > > > > > previous chakra notes. Even with the brief notes i found that > > > > > letters " a, b, d. h. m, n, r, y " matched in both documents > i.e., > > > > > there is no need for a handwriting expert. By all means Shri > > > > > Mataji did write the letter below to all SYs and is no > forgery. > > > > > So what did She declare to all SYs? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To whomsoever it may concern > > > > > > > > > > I want to state that nobody has any right on my body, without > my > > > > > permission I should not be treated by any doctor vidya or any > > > > > other person. > > > > > > > > > > Specially my husband and my family members should not at all > > have > > > > > any say in my sickness, no one has to admit me in any > hospital. > > > > > Even Sahaja Yogis cannot admit me to the hospital or treat me > or > > > > > arrange any doctor for treatment for me. > > > > > > > > > > I want to declare that my family should never never admit me > in > > > > > the hospital. Specially my husband has no right over my body > and > > > > > any advice from him should not be accepted at all. In short I > do > > > > > not want to be admitted in any hospital by anyone. > > > > > > > > > > Before my death I will write what is to be done with my body. > > > > > > > > > > sg. Mataji Nirmala Devi > > > > > Mrs. Nirmala Srivastava > > > > > 10th. Dec 1998 > > > > > > > > > > http://www.adishakti.org/images/sm_1998_letter.JPG > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Jagbir, > > > > > > > > Jai Shri Mataji! We're so glad to have been told about your Shri > > > > Adishakti website because it has been very difficult and > > frustrated > > > > of not being able to express our views in these past two years > due > > > > to the total control of the Sahaj official website and national > > > > websites around the world by WCASY and their followers. > > > > > > > > My husband and I, who have been in Sahaj for more than 20 years, > > > > truly admire you and your family for having such tremendous > > courage > > > > and inner strength to stand up for the Truth and sticking to > your > > > > principles because we also have been subjected to similar fate > as > > > > you have been through in the past 3 years. We also have great > > > > admiration for those true yogis like Sergei, Guido, Derek, Al > > > > Ganesh, Henry Ho, the late Dr. Harald Knobel, Avinash and > several > > > > more of my true brothers and sisters, whose characters have been > > > > tarnished, vilified and defamed publicly around the world in > > recent > > > >; years by WCASY and their followers. How many times have Shri > > Mataji > > > > talked of Love? It is so apparent that after all these years > > > > they've never felt God's love in their heart and this is why so > > > > many of them have fallen in the spider's web. > > > > > > > > However much they try to attack and discredit me, they can never > > > > ever ever destroy my spirit, my faith and my love for Shri > Mataji > > > > which are a permanent fixture in my heart! I must say, there > have > > > > been times when the attacks they inflicted upon me was so > > > > horrendous that it has posed risk to my health and danger to me > > > > and my family, I thought I would not be able to last any longer. > > > > My survival through this awful time only comes from the > > > > protection, guidance and love of Shri Mataji and using clearing > > > > and cleansing techniques which She has recommended to us on a > > > > regular basis. She would come into my dreams regularly before, > > > > during or after an attack either to forewarn, to indicate, to > > > > soothe, to advice, to love, to correct or to reassure me. > > > > > > > > My family and I withdrew from the collective which has nothing > to > > > > do of how we've been treated, but it has to do of how they, > > > > disgustingly, have been treating our Holy Divine Mother, God > > > > Almighty, Shri Adi Shakti for the past 3 and a half years. > Often I > > > > would cry my eyes out and feel so ashamed of us as human beings > > who > > > > have been giving the greatest blessing of all and look at what > > > > they've done in the name of God. They violate Her Divine body by > > > > silen(cing) Her with this anti-psychotic drug, they parade Her > > > > around without any respect for Her physical well being, they > have > > > > group photos taken with Shri Mataji in order to pamper their > ego, > > > > they totally disregard all protocols which are needed to be > > > > observed for Shri Adi Shakti, they anointed and pontificated > Sir C > > > > P and claimed publicly that Shri Mataji speaks through him and > > > > that he is Shiva, they sanctified Kalpina and Sadna by using > shri > > > > before their names, they show photo of Sir C P's feet in the > > > > official website, they praised Sir C P by chanting " Bolo, shri > > > > papaji qui jay! " at the last Diwali puja, and finally, the > > > > ultimate sin committed against Shri Mataji is that they are > doing > > > > their utmost to destroy by politicising, organising and > distorting > > > > the teachings and works of God Almighty! > > > > > > > > Shri Mataji has said that She is the Adi Shakti and She is the > > only > > > > Incarnation on this earth, are they deaf or what? For all the > > years > > > > we've been in Sahaj, of course we've great respect Sir C P and > his > > > > family, we never once regarded them as SYs. The only member of > the > > > > family who is a SY was Shri Mataji's beloved brother, BabaMama. > I > > > > would like to ask if anybody has witnessed any members of the > > > > family worship, meditate and bow to Shri Mataji at pujas in all > > > > these years? > > > > > > > > I know that those who are now considered as 'outsiders' will > > > > continue carrying the divine flame of Shri Mataji's and no one > on > > > > this earth, particularly the WCASY and their followers, can stop > > us > > > > from spreading the True Message of our Holy Divine Mother. > > Gregoire > > > > had mentioned about fear in us, but do they have fear of the > wrath > > > > of God? > > > > > > > > Jagbir, we'll keep in touch. > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > > > > > Xxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > Sir CP had no right to make public Shri Mataji's medical health > and > > > file > > > > > > Dear Xxxxxxx, > > > > > > i consider Sir C P's divulging of Shri Mataji's medical health and > > > history to all SY leaders as one of the greatest misfortune in > > > Sahaja Yoga history. Such matters were supposed to be strictly > > > confidential that, in order to be made public, required the > express > > > permission of Shri Mataji due to the highly damaging and explosive > > > nature of the medical file. > > > > > > > > > WHAT INFORMATION IS SUBJECT TO PROTECTIONS CONCERNING MEDICAL > RECORD > > > CONFIDENTIALITY? > > > > > > Any information about you, whether in electronic or physical form, > > > regarding your medical history, mental or physical condition, or > > > treatment is subject to California laws protecting your medical > > > record confidentiality. > > > > > > WHAT DOES AN AUTHORIZATION FORM FOR RELEASE OF MY MEDICAL RECORDS > > > HAVE TO INCLUDE TO BE VALID? > > > > > > To be valid, an authorization form used by health care providers, > > > HMOs and health care contractors must: > > > > > > Be handwritten by you (or your authorized representative signing > the > > > authorization form) or be typewritten in no smaller than 8-point > > > type. > > > > > > Be clearly separate from any other language on the same page and > > > have a line for your signature that serves no purpose other than > to > > > authorize the release of your information. > > > > > > Be signed by one of the following: > > > > > > -- you, the patient, > > > -- your legal representative if you are a minor or incompetent, > > > -- the beneficiary or personal representative of a deceased > patient, > > > -- or your spouse or person financially responsible for you for > the > > > sole purpose of processing an application for health care > insurance > > > or enrollment in a health care service plan or employee benefit > plan > > > when you are to be an enrolled spouse or dependent under the > policy > > > or plan. > > > -- Specify the uses and limitations on the types of medical > > > information to be disclosed, > > >; -- Specify the name or functions of the health care provider that > > > may disclose the information, > > > -- State the name or functions of the persons or entities > authorized > > > to receive the medical information, > > > -- State the specific uses and limitations on the use of the > medical > > > information by the persons or entities authorized to receive the > > > medical information, > > > -- State a specific date after which the health care provider is > no > > > longer authorized to disclose your medical record information, and > > > -- State that you have a right to receive a copy of the > > > authorization.12 > > > > > > CAN MY DOCTOR OR HMO RELEASE MY MEDICAL RECORDS WITHOUT MY > CONSENT? > > > > > > Yes, but only in certain limited situations when necessary to > > > provide you with appropriate health care. Your doctor or HMO is > > > required to release your medical record information, even without > > >; your written authorization, to the following: > > > > > > A court pursuant to a court order. > > > > > > A board, commission, or administrative agency for purposes of > > > resolving a dispute pursuant to its lawful authority. > > > > > > A party to a proceeding before a court or administrative agency > > > pursuant to an investigative subpoena. > > > > > > An arbitrator or arbitration panel, when arbitration is lawfully > > > requested by either party pursuant to a subpoena. > > > > > > A government law enforcement agency pursuant to a search warrant > > > > > > http://www.calpatientguide.org/iii.html > > > > > > > > > None of the above conditions or reasons were met. > > > > > > Yes, some SYs may wonder why am i saying it only now. Well, i was > > > under the impression that the 10th. Dec 1998 letter of Shri Mataji > > > was a forgery i.e., She never wrote it. Only lately i realized > that > > > She did in fact write it and Her instructions were crystal clear > and > > > unequivocal. > > > > > > If WCASY had sided with Her instead of Sir CP, or at least got Her > > > express permission first for medical treatment and release of > > > information, the present crisis would not have come. After all, > how > > > difficult was it for them to ask Shri Mataji on probably Her most > > > important personal desire? WCASY seems to have all the time and > > > luxury to ask 1001 mundane questions but not concerning Her > express > > > written order!!!??? How many of you would want your medical file > be > > > made public without your permission? This reeks of a most > > > frightening negativity and foul play! > > > > > > So SYs now think that WCASY's claim that Shri Mataji speaks > through > > > Sir CP is true and that he is Shiva? Let me tell you something to > > > the contrary. > > > > > > Last year a SY ENT expert, Dr. B, was summoned to Genoa, Italy by > > > Sir CP to treat Shri Mataji's ear as She is hard of hearing. At > the > > > appointed hour Dr. B met Sir CP and Shri Mataji. Dr. B asked Shri > > > Mataji if She wanted to be treated. There was no reply from Her. > > > Then Dr. B again asked in a louder voice if he could examine Her. > > > Again Shri Mataji remained silent. > > > > > > It was then when Sir CP told Dr. B to go ahead as She had agreed. > > > Dr. B was quite shocked by Sir CP's insincerity since Shri Mataji > > > never gave any verbal hint or physical gesture that She can be > > > examined. Dr. B then silently asked Her for forgiveness as he was > > > about to perform an ear examination without Her permission. This > > > incident is evidence that Shri Mataji does not talk to Sir CP as > has > > > been claimed by WCASY and himself. It is just not true as She has > > > stopped talking due to the medication administered to Her. > > > > > > WCASY's claim that Sir CP is Shiva is just pure fabrication. It > was > > > necessary for WCASY to bestow divinity on him as Sir CP holds the > de > > > facto power in the organization, not Shri Mataji. She is now > reduced > > > to a mere puppet involuntarily holding a rubber stamp that is used > > > by WCASY to endorse and bless any undertaking - from assassinating > > > Guido, poisoning Avinash, garroting Perezhogin to suppressing my > > > websites and demonizing my children. WCASY and their hired hit man > > > Alan Wherry is rumored to have now set the crosshair on Derek Lee. > > > Yes, WCASY claims that all such acts have the blessings of Shri > > > Mataji who 'speaks' through Sir Shiva ................. just ask > > > Dr. B and you will know how much Shri Mataji's talks to Sir CP, in > > > public or private. > > > > > > But the main question is: " Did Sir CP have Shri Mataji's > permission > > > to make public Her medical health and file " ? i have the right to > ask > > > because WCASY and Sir CP are now putting too many words in Her > > > incapacitated mouth. Their outrageous claim that Sir CP is > actually > > > Shiva is the last straw. Tens of thousands of SYs are either too > > > blissfully unaware or unfortunately dull to comprehend what is at > > > stake! It is outsiders like us who have to wake them up. > > > > > > Everything will be alright one day – i am sure too that the > darkest > > > hour comes just before dawn. Your Mother Kundalini within is > > > recording all during the Last Judgment! Don't be fooled by humans > > > who claim to be Her Will or Shiva. The Devi within has no partners > > > or spouse. Even Shri Shiva meditates on Her! So do all others - > Shri > > > Ganesha, Jesus, Krishna, Radha, Rama, Sita, Brahma, Saraswati, > > > Prophet Muhammad, Guru Nanak, Mahavira, Buddha - and all liberated > > > souls in the Spirit World. So stand your sacred ground and don't > > > budge an inch. Gladly leave the organization to continue on your > own > > > but don't ever sell your soul to WCASY or Sir Shiva. Your > allegiance > > > and attention at all times must be exclusively, unconditionally > and > > > without any question whatsoever on the Adi Shakti, the Devi > within: > > > > > > " Now listen attentively about the supreme devotion (parabhakti) > > > which I will now describe to you. He always hears my glories and > > > recites my name. His mind always dwells in me, like the incessant > > > flow of oil, and he is the receptacle of all good qualities and > > > gunas. But he does not have the least trace of any desire to get > the > > > fruits of his actions (karma). Indeed, he does not want the > various > > > levels of release (moksha), including being on the same plane as > God > > > (salokya), nearness to God (samipya), having the form of God > > > (sarsti), union with God (sayujya) and other forms of release. > > > Devi continues noting that true worshipers abandons all concepts > of > > > themselves, completely identify themselves with Devi, and make no > > > distinctions between themselves and anything else. Worshipers find > > > Devi in everything, including other souls: > > > > > > He becomes filled with devotion for me alone, worships me only, > > > knows nothing higher than to serve me, and he does not even want > > > final release. He does not like neglecting the notions of > " serving " > > > (sevya) and the " servant who serves " (sevaka). He always meditates > > > on me with a constant vigilance, actuated by a feeling of supreme > > > devotion. He does not think of himself as separate from me, but > > > rather thinks to himself, " I am the Lord (Bhagavati). " He > considers > > > all souls (jivas) as myself, and loves me as he loves himself. He > > > makes no distinction between the souls and myself since he finds > the > > > same pure consciousness (caitanya) everywhere and manifested in > all. > > > He does not quarrel with anyone since he has abandoned all ideas > of > > > separateness. He bows down and worships the pure consciousness and > > > all the souls. He becomes filled with the highest love when he > sees > > > my place, sees my devotees, hears the scriptures, describes my > > > deeds, and meditates on my mantras. His hairs stand on end out of > > > love for me and his tears of love flow incessantly from both of > his > > > eyes. He recites my name deeds in a voice that is choked with > > > feelings of love for me. With intense feeling he worships me as > the > > > mother of this universe and the cause of all causes. " [Devi > > > Bhagavata Purana, 7.37] > > > > > > Jai Shri Ganapathy, > > > > > > > > > jagbir > > > > > > Check out the all-new Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 Dear Jagbir, My husband who is an R.N. tells me that risperidone/respiridol... apart from being used for treatment of psychosis... can also be used for behavioural management, but this has nothing to do with the stroke itself. A stroke, however often results in agitation and confusion... and in some instances respiridol may be given for behavioural management. It is often used in dementia too... for behavioural management. Peter says that hallucinations are not common with strokes, but they can happen. However, he says that if they do happen... they are very short-term. Whatever the case may be, the fact is that Shri Mataji " did " take the respiridol/respiridone... whether She took it knowingly or unknowingly, willingly, or unwillingly. However... i pose the question that: Why did Shri Mataji not just say " NO " and push the risperidol away... if She did not want the medication? i asked Peter that question, and he said that if She has either stroke, dementia, or psychosis.... then Her cognitive ability is impaired... and She will do as She is told. So... i can only surmise that She did not push away the medication and say " No " ! because of impaired cognitive functioning. In other words... She complied, because as Peter explained it to me... 'a person with stroke, dementia, or psychosis... will do what they are told. Shri Mataji must have known what was happening to Her physical body. She obviously wrote a letter, and gave it to a trusted Sahaja Yogi. That She did not give this letter to WCASY... or to her husband nor family... speaks volumes. They were obviously left 'out of the loop'. They were obviously not trusted. You just have to read Her Letter, to understand the same: To whomsoever it may concern I want to state that nobody has any right on my body, without my permission I should not be treated by any doctor vidya or any other person. Specially my husband and my family members should not at all have any say in my sickness, no one has to admit me in any hospital. Even Sahaja Yogis cannot admit me to the hospital or treat me or arrange any doctor for treatment for me. I want to declare that my family should never never admit me in the hospital. Specially my husband has no right over my body and any advice from him should not be accepted at all. In short I do not want to be admitted in any hospital by anyone. Before my death I will write what is to be done with my body. sg. Mataji Nirmala Devi Mrs. Nirmala Srivastava 10th. Dec 1998 But... if because of impaired cognitive functioning, Shri Mataji will comply to whatever is put before Her... where does that leave the " Highjackers of Her Will " . As the Incarnation of the Adi Shakti... i am sure Shri Mataji has foreknowledge of Her Own Life, and prepared for all contingencies regarding Her 'sickness'... and that is why She wrote the letter... a letter that tells more than any WCASY or Sir C.P. would want the world-at-large to know. So... She is still working everything out in Her Own Way! She is miles ahead of everyone... and 'all the while'... that 'rope of liberty' that Shri Mataji gave to SY Leaders... and which they have abused... they are slowly but surely 'hanging themselves' with it. violet , " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org wrote: > > > > > This incident is evidence that Shri Mataji does not talk to Sir CP > > as has been claimed by WCASY and himself. It is just not true as > > She has stopped talking due to the medication administered to Her. > > > > Shri Mataji used to be a prolific talker who literally spent the > last three decades traversing and criss-crossing the globe every > year in an effort to enlighten humanity. We all know the prodigious > time and effort spent by Her in talking with fellow human beings, > sometimes for hours at end. She promised to spread Sahaja Yoga > before attaining Mahasamadhi. > > Then a minor incident in April 2003 snowballed into what we have > today. Shri Mataji, then an octogenarian, had some hallucinations. > It ended with Her being given an anti-psychotic drug Risperidone. > > Since being given medication She has not communicated with any > person in any meaningful way over the last three years. i thought > the medication was the cause of Her inability to talk. However today > i have realized that is NOT THE CASE! Risperidone does not silence > the patient. > > " Side Effects > > RISPERDAL® (risperidone) is generally safe and effective for > treating the symptoms of schizophrenia. > > With any medication, some people have side effects and some don't. > If you have any side effects with RISPERDAL, or feel you're not > getting better, please talk to your doctor. > > The most common side effects that may occur with RISPERDAL are: > anxiety, sleepiness, restlessness, tremors, and muscle stiffness; > dizziness, constipation, nausea, indigestion, runny nose, rash, and > rapid heartbeat. > > Studies suggest an increased risk of elevated blood sugar-related > side effects, and sometimes potentially fatal, in patients treated > with this class of medications, including RISPERDAL. Some people may > need regular blood sugar testing. > > Some people taking RISPERDAL may feel faint or lightheaded when they > stand up or sit up too quickly. By standing up or sitting up slowly > and following your doctor's dosing instructions, this side effect > may be reduced or it may go away over time. > > You may have heard the term " extrapyramidal symptoms (EPS). " These > are usually reversible movement disorders or muscle disturbances, > such as restlessness, tremors, and muscle stiffness. Some people > taking RISPERDAL have these side effects. In clinical studies, these > side effects were uncommon at lower doses, but did increase with > higher doses. If you have these symptoms, talk to your doctor. > > You may have heard the term " tardive dyskinesia. " These are > potentially irreversible, uncontrollable, slow or jerky facial or > body movements that can be caused by all medications of this type > (antipsychotics). If you have these symptoms, talk to your doctor. > Only your doctor should adjust your dose or stop your medication. " > > www.risperdal.com/ > > > So why is Shri Mataji so silent for so long? It is as if Shri > Mahamaya is playing a game with those who have boldly hijacked Her > Will and now raised and praised Sir CP to be the incarnation of Shri > Shiva. Sir Shiva, in return for such a blessing, has empowered WCASY > to act as judge, jury and executioner. > > Violet has raised a very troubling point that also pricked my > conscience: > > " Here then is the advice given from the person of whom Shri Mataji > wrote: " Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. " > (http://www.adishakti.org/images/sm_1998_letter.JPG) When you read > what he advised... i am sure it will become clear why Shri Mataji > told us not to listen to him: > > Sir CP: > > " One thing I want to mention - World Council - is that She (Shri > Mataji) desires for me to convey to you that the World Council is > the highest authority in Sahaja Yoga, representing Her will. And > this will be, the World Council, will be the final deciding > authority in Sahaja Yoga collectives. There should be no doubt about > that. That is Her will, and on behalf of Her, the World Council will > be acting. Is that clear to everyone? That is Her will and She asked > me to convey this, and I am conveying it to you. The final authority > is the World Council. Everything else emanates from the World > Council. Whatever decision is to be taken, the World Council takes, > because that is Her will. The Council represents Her will. Alright? > So there should be no confusion in future. That has been decided. > Thereafter, what happens where is a matter for the World Council to > decide. We have now to move forward, carry forward the message and > act on that basis. " > > http://www.sahajayoga.org/swan/view/swan_512_2006.asp > /message/ 6321?threaded=1 & l=1 > > " The T-square formations between Moon-Mars, Venus, Jupiter and > Neptune, indicate that some of the plans of Mataji might be hindered > by obstructive activities of evil and negative forces. Also Mataji > might have to steer through conflicting loyalties and aims, of some > of her so-called followers who are enemies in disguise. But despite > all this, she will find her way to the goal of her life, viz., > universal Self-Realization! " . > > /message/6321 > > That brings us back to the same question: But why is Shri Mataji > silent for so long and continues to bear witness to the official > orgies of the copulating parties tightly locked in embrace in their > lust for power and self-aggrandizement? > > But then She promised to spread Sahaja Yoga before attaining > Mahasamadhi. i know Her deafening silence has begun raising > outsiders who will complete that task, and continue long after She > has left. Shri Mataji has steered through the conflicting loyalties > and aims of some of her so-called followers who are enemies in > disguise. Despite all this, She has found the way to the goal of Her > life, viz., universal Self-Realization! There is nothing WCASY or > Sir Shiva can do to stop Her now. It does not matter anymore if Sir > Shiva does not agree to uphold the truth of www.adishakti.org and > www.al-qiyamah.org which Dr. B presented and made clear to him in a > lengthy letter that called for his unconditional duty towards Shri > Mataji. It is obvious that WCASY and Sir Shiva work hand in glove to > suppress Shri Mataji's Divine Message to humanity, and both have > made clear their intentions and we have evidence. The Adi Shakti, > both within and without, knows that neither WCASY nor Sir CP is > interested in propagating Her incarnation and Message. > > i know deep in my heart that Shri Mataji did not summoned Dr. B to > examine Her ear. In Her silence She has exposed all those who work > against Her, specifically her husband Sir Shiva. She also laid bare > the boldness and blasphemy humans are capable of, acts they would > shuddered of committing when She was in Her element. Perhaps this > was to be Her final act to expose the negativity that has > overwhelmed the Sahaja Yoga organization. Perhaps all this is a > harbinger of the trials and tribulations to be faced by the > faithful, concerend and conscientious after She departs. > > Remember the supreme devotion (parabhakti) She has described? That > is your only sanctuary now ............. seek Her within! > > Jagbir > > > Note: John Noyce, please sent a copy of this email to WCASY and Sir Shiva. > > > > > , " jagbir singh " > <adishakti_org@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Xxxxxx, > > > > Thank you for this 'shocking' mail. i did not know Sir CP is now > > regarded as Shiva. Shri Mataji never ever even once hinted that her > > husband was in any way divine. On the contrary, She did lament that > > even Her own family (husband and children) do not recognize Her. > > How come now when Shri Mataji is old, drugged and incapacitated we > > start hearing of things She never said? i.e., words are put in Her > > mouth because She refuses to say so on Her own. > > > > So maybe we will have to wait for Sir C P to officially announce > > that he is Shiva. Perhaps then WCASY can request SYs to start > > meditating on his lotus feet too. > > > > regards, > > > > jagbir > > > > > > Note: i just realized that WCASY's Sir Shiva has a serious > > credibility problem that will now haunt all of them. It is as if > > Shri Mataji knew what was coming and gifted the guilty parties with > > enough rope to hang all who participated in this terrible > > transgression and blasphemy despite Shri Mataji's explicit > > instructions: " Specially my husband has no right over my body and > > any advice from him should not be accepted at all " . > > > > Why do i have this feeling that WCASY's Sir Shiva will need a lot > > of smoke and mirrors to pull this off?............. sorry, i forgot > > wool for SYs. But does Sir C P know he has been elevated to Shiva > > by WCASY, perhaps without his knowledge or consent? WCASY is more > > sinister than we think ............... and time will tell. > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > i read Shri Mataji's 1998 letter again and compared it with Her > > > previous chakra notes. Even with the brief notes i found that > > > letters " a, b, d. h. m, n, r, y " matched in both documents i.e., > > > there is no need for a handwriting expert. By all means Shri > > > Mataji did write the letter below to all SYs and is no forgery. > > > So what did She declare to all SYs? > > > > > > > > > To whomsoever it may concern > > > > > > I want to state that nobody has any right on my body, without my > > > permission I should not be treated by any doctor vidya or any > > > other person. > > > > > > Specially my husband and my family members should not at all have > > > any say in my sickness, no one has to admit me in any hospital. > > > Even Sahaja Yogis cannot admit me to the hospital or treat me or > > > arrange any doctor for treatment for me. > > > > > > I want to declare that my family should never never admit me in > > > the hospital. Specially my husband has no right over my body and > > > any advice from him should not be accepted at all. In short I do > > > not want to be admitted in any hospital by anyone. > > > > > > Before my death I will write what is to be done with my body. > > > > > > sg. Mataji Nirmala Devi > > > Mrs. Nirmala Srivastava > > > 10th. Dec 1998 > > > > > > http://www.adishakti.org/images/sm_1998_letter.JPG > > > > > > > > > > Dear Jagbir, > > > > Jai Shri Mataji! We're so glad to have been told about your Shri > > Adishakti website because it has been very difficult and frustrated > > of not being able to express our views in these past two years due > > to the total control of the Sahaj official website and national > > websites around the world by WCASY and their followers. > > > > My husband and I, who have been in Sahaj for more than 20 years, > > truly admire you and your family for having such tremendous courage > > and inner strength to stand up for the Truth and sticking to your > > principles because we also have been subjected to similar fate as > > you have been through in the past 3 years. We also have great > > admiration for those true yogis like Sergei, Guido, Derek, Al > > Ganesh, Henry Ho, the late Dr. Harald Knobel, Avinash and several > > more of my true brothers and sisters, whose characters have been > > tarnished, vilified and defamed publicly around the world in recent > > years by WCASY and their followers. How many times have Shri Mataji > > talked of Love? It is so apparent that after all these years > > they've never felt God's love in their heart and this is why so > > many of them have fallen in the spider's web. > > > > However much they try to attack and discredit me, they can never > > ever ever destroy my spirit, my faith and my love for Shri Mataji > > which are a permanent fixture in my heart! I must say, there have > > been times when the attacks they inflicted upon me was so > > horrendous that it has posed risk to my health and danger to me > > and my family, I thought I would not be able to last any longer. > > My survival through this awful time only comes from the > > protection, guidance and love of Shri Mataji and using clearing > > and cleansing techniques which She has recommended to us on a > > regular basis. She would come into my dreams regularly before, > > during or after an attack either to forewarn, to indicate, to > > soothe, to advice, to love, to correct or to reassure me. > > > > My family and I withdrew from the collective which has nothing to > > do of how we've been treated, but it has to do of how they, > > disgustingly, have been treating our Holy Divine Mother, God > > Almighty, Shri Adi Shakti for the past 3 and a half years. Often I > > would cry my eyes out and feel so ashamed of us as human beings who > > have been giving the greatest blessing of all and look at what > > they've done in the name of God. They violate Her Divine body by > > silen(cing) Her with this anti-psychotic drug, they parade Her > > around without any respect for Her physical well being, they have > > group photos taken with Shri Mataji in order to pamper their ego, > > they totally disregard all protocols which are needed to be > > observed for Shri Adi Shakti, they anointed and pontificated Sir C > > P and claimed publicly that Shri Mataji speaks through him and > > that he is Shiva, they sanctified Kalpina and Sadna by using shri > > before their names, they show photo of Sir C P's feet in the > > official website, they praised Sir C P by chanting " Bolo, shri > > papaji qui jay! " at the last Diwali puja, and finally, the > > ultimate sin committed against Shri Mataji is that they are doing > > their utmost to destroy by politicising, organising and distorting > > the teachings and works of God Almighty! > > > > Shri Mataji has said that She is the Adi Shakti and She is the only > > Incarnation on this earth, are they deaf or what? For all the years > > we've been in Sahaj, of course we've great respect Sir C P and his > > family, we never once regarded them as SYs. The only member of the > > family who is a SY was Shri Mataji's beloved brother, BabaMama. I > > would like to ask if anybody has witnessed any members of the > > family worship, meditate and bow to Shri Mataji at pujas in all > > these years? > > > > I know that those who are now considered as 'outsiders' will > > continue carrying the divine flame of Shri Mataji's and no one on > > this earth, particularly the WCASY and their followers, can stop us > > from spreading the True Message of our Holy Divine Mother. Gregoire > > had mentioned about fear in us, but do they have fear of the wrath > > of God? > > > > Jagbir, we'll keep in touch. > > > > Love, > > > > Xxxxxxx > > > > Sir CP had no right to make public Shri Mataji's medical health and > file > > Dear Xxxxxxx, > > i consider Sir C P's divulging of Shri Mataji's medical health and > history to all SY leaders as one of the greatest misfortune in > Sahaja Yoga history. Such matters were supposed to be strictly > confidential that, in order to be made public, required the express > permission of Shri Mataji due to the highly damaging and explosive > nature of the medical file. > > > WHAT INFORMATION IS SUBJECT TO PROTECTIONS CONCERNING MEDICAL RECORD > CONFIDENTIALITY? > > Any information about you, whether in electronic or physical form, > regarding your medical history, mental or physical condition, or > treatment is subject to California laws protecting your medical > record confidentiality. > > WHAT DOES AN AUTHORIZATION FORM FOR RELEASE OF MY MEDICAL RECORDS > HAVE TO INCLUDE TO BE VALID? > > To be valid, an authorization form used by health care providers, > HMOs and health care contractors must: > > Be handwritten by you (or your authorized representative signing the > authorization form) or be typewritten in no smaller than 8-point > type. > > Be clearly separate from any other language on the same page and > have a line for your signature that serves no purpose other than to > authorize the release of your information. > > Be signed by one of the following: > > -- you, the patient, > -- your legal representative if you are a minor or incompetent, > -- the beneficiary or personal representative of a deceased patient, > -- or your spouse or person financially responsible for you for the > sole purpose of processing an application for health care insurance > or enrollment in a health care service plan or employee benefit plan > when you are to be an enrolled spouse or dependent under the policy > or plan. > -- Specify the uses and limitations on the types of medical > information to be disclosed, > -- Specify the name or functions of the health care provider that > may disclose the information, > -- State the name or functions of the persons or entities authorized > to receive the medical information, > -- State the specific uses and limitations on the use of the medical > information by the persons or entities authorized to receive the > medical information, > -- State a specific date after which the health care provider is no > longer authorized to disclose your medical record information, and > -- State that you have a right to receive a copy of the > authorization.12 > > CAN MY DOCTOR OR HMO RELEASE MY MEDICAL RECORDS WITHOUT MY CONSENT? > > Yes, but only in certain limited situations when necessary to > provide you with appropriate health care. Your doctor or HMO is > required to release your medical record information, even without > your written authorization, to the following: > > A court pursuant to a court order. > > A board, commission, or administrative agency for purposes of > resolving a dispute pursuant to its lawful authority. > > A party to a proceeding before a court or administrative agency > pursuant to an investigative subpoena. > > An arbitrator or arbitration panel, when arbitration is lawfully > requested by either party pursuant to a subpoena. > > A government law enforcement agency pursuant to a search warrant > > http://www.calpatientguide.org/iii.html > > > None of the above conditions or reasons were met. > > Yes, some SYs may wonder why am i saying it only now. Well, i was > under the impression that the 10th. Dec 1998 letter of Shri Mataji > was a forgery i.e., She never wrote it. Only lately i realized that > She did in fact write it and Her instructions were crystal clear and > unequivocal. > > If WCASY had sided with Her instead of Sir CP, or at least got Her > express permission first for medical treatment and release of > information, the present crisis would not have come. After all, how > difficult was it for them to ask Shri Mataji on probably Her most > important personal desire? WCASY seems to have all the time and > luxury to ask 1001 mundane questions but not concerning Her express > written order!!!??? How many of you would want your medical file be > made public without your permission? This reeks of a most > frightening negativity and foul play! > > So SYs now think that WCASY's claim that Shri Mataji speaks through > Sir CP is true and that he is Shiva? Let me tell you something to > the contrary. > > Last year a SY ENT expert, Dr. B, was summoned to Genoa, Italy by > Sir CP to treat Shri Mataji's ear as She is hard of hearing. At the > appointed hour Dr. B met Sir CP and Shri Mataji. Dr. B asked Shri > Mataji if She wanted to be treated. There was no reply from Her. > Then Dr. B again asked in a louder voice if he could examine Her. > Again Shri Mataji remained silent. > > It was then when Sir CP told Dr. B to go ahead as She had agreed. > Dr. B was quite shocked by Sir CP's insincerity since Shri Mataji > never gave any verbal hint or physical gesture that She can be > examined. Dr. B then silently asked Her for forgiveness as he was > about to perform an ear examination without Her permission. This > incident is evidence that Shri Mataji does not talk to Sir CP as has > been claimed by WCASY and himself. It is just not true as She has > stopped talking due to the medication administered to Her. > > WCASY's claim that Sir CP is Shiva is just pure fabrication. It was > necessary for WCASY to bestow divinity on him as Sir CP holds the de > facto power in the organization, not Shri Mataji. She is now reduced > to a mere puppet involuntarily holding a rubber stamp that is used > by WCASY to endorse and bless any undertaking - from assassinating > Guido, poisoning Avinash, garroting Perezhogin to suppressing my > websites and demonizing my children. WCASY and their hired hit man > Alan Wherry is rumored to have now set the crosshair on Derek Lee. > Yes, WCASY claims that all such acts have the blessings of Shri > Mataji who 'speaks' through Sir Shiva ................. just ask > Dr. B and you will know how much Shri Mataji's talks to Sir CP, in > public or private. > > But the main question is: " Did Sir CP have Shri Mataji's permission > to make public Her medical health and file " ? i have the right to ask > because WCASY and Sir CP are now putting too many words in Her > incapacitated mouth. Their outrageous claim that Sir CP is actually > Shiva is the last straw. Tens of thousands of SYs are either too > blissfully unaware or unfortunately dull to comprehend what is at > stake! It is outsiders like us who have to wake them up. > > Everything will be alright one day – i am sure too that the darkest > hour comes just before dawn. Your Mother Kundalini within is > recording all during the Last Judgment! Don't be fooled by humans > who claim to be Her Will or Shiva. The Devi within has no partners > or spouse. Even Shri Shiva meditates on Her! So do all others - Shri > Ganesha, Jesus, Krishna, Radha, Rama, Sita, Brahma, Saraswati, > Prophet Muhammad, Guru Nanak, Mahavira, Buddha - and all liberated > souls in the Spirit World. So stand your sacred ground and don't > budge an inch. Gladly leave the organization to continue on your own > but don't ever sell your soul to WCASY or Sir Shiva. Your allegiance > and attention at all times must be exclusively, unconditionally and > without any question whatsoever on the Adi Shakti, the Devi within: > > " Now listen attentively about the supreme devotion (parabhakti) > which I will now describe to you. He always hears my glories and > recites my name. His mind always dwells in me, like the incessant > flow of oil, and he is the receptacle of all good qualities and > gunas. But he does not have the least trace of any desire to get the > fruits of his actions (karma). Indeed, he does not want the various > levels of release (moksha), including being on the same plane as God > (salokya), nearness to God (samipya), having the form of God > (sarsti), union with God (sayujya) and other forms of release. > Devi continues noting that true worshipers abandons all concepts of > themselves, completely identify themselves with Devi, and make no > distinctions between themselves and anything else. Worshipers find > Devi in everything, including other souls: > > He becomes filled with devotion for me alone, worships me only, > knows nothing higher than to serve me, and he does not even want > final release. He does not like neglecting the notions of " serving " > (sevya) and the " servant who serves " (sevaka). He always meditates > on me with a constant vigilance, actuated by a feeling of supreme > devotion. He does not think of himself as separate from me, but > rather thinks to himself, " I am the Lord (Bhagavati). " He considers > all souls (jivas) as myself, and loves me as he loves himself. He > makes no distinction between the souls and myself since he finds the > same pure consciousness (caitanya) everywhere and manifested in all. > He does not quarrel with anyone since he has abandoned all ideas of > separateness. He bows down and worships the pure consciousness and > all the souls. He becomes filled with the highest love when he sees > my place, sees my devotees, hears the scriptures, describes my > deeds, and meditates on my mantras. His hairs stand on end out of > love for me and his tears of love flow incessantly from both of his > eyes. He recites my name deeds in a voice that is choked with > feelings of love for me. With intense feeling he worships me as the > mother of this universe and the cause of all causes. " [Devi > Bhagavata Purana, 7.37] > > Jai Shri Ganapathy, > > > jagbir > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 Dear Suzy, i have a slight edit to make: Peter said i should not have used the word " partial " in describing a stroke, because he said there is no thing such as a " partial " stroke. He said it is a full stroke. However, i believe there are varying degrees of severity with regard to 'strokes'. But that does not make them 'partial strokes'. violet , " Violet " <violet.tubb wrote: > > Dear Suzy, > > In regards to 'strokes'... apparently the most common language disorder following a stroke is aphasia. Here is what it says about 'aphasia' in the Miller-Keane Encyclopedia & Dictionary of Medicine, Nursing & Allied Health (Sixth Edition): > > aphasia (ah-fa'shah) defect or loss of the power of expression by speech, writing, or signs, or of comprehension of spoken or written language, due to disease or injury of the brain centers, such as after STROKE SYNDROME on the left side. > > PATIENT CARE. Aphasia is a complex phenomenon manifested in numerous ways. The recovery period typically is very long, sometimes extending to months and years. Because communication is such a vital part of everyday living, loss of the capacity for verbal expression, whether in speaking or writing, can profoundly affect the personality and behaviour of an aphasic patient. Although aphasic persons usually require extensive treatment by specially trained speech therapists, all persons concerned with the care of the patient should practice techniques that will help minimize frustration and improve communication with the aphasic patient. > > In Potter & Perry's " Fundamentals of Nursing " p.1652-53... it says: > > Communication... > > The most common language disorder following a stroke is aphasia. As a result of a disruption in blood flow to the brain, the speech centre becomes damaged, altering a person's ability to either use or understand spoken words. Depending on the type of aphasia, the inability to communicate can be frustrating and frightening. > > Communication Methods (Clients with Aphasia): > > Listen to the client and wait for the client to communicate. > Do not should or speak loudly (hearing loss is not the problem). > If the client has problems with comprehension, use simple, short questions and facial gestures to give additional clues. > Speak of things familiar and of interest to the client. > If the client has problems speaking, ask questions that require simple yes or no answers or blinking of the eyes. Offer pictures or a communication board so that the client can point. > Give the client time to understand; be calm and patient. > Do not pressure or tire the client. > Avoid patronising and childish phrases. > > The nurse should initially establish very basic communication and recognise that aphasia does not indicate intellectual impairment or degeneration of personality. The nurse explains situations and treatments that are pertinent to the client, since he or she may understand. Because a stroke often causes partial or complete paralysis of one side of the client's body, an aphasic client may need special asistive devices. There are communication boards that have been developed for several levels of disability. (End Quote) > > i would not be a bit surprised if Shri Mataji had a partial stroke. When i saw a picture of Her, i showed it to my husband who is a Registered Nurse (Division I). He has worked with people suffering from stroke and is experienced at picking up visual clues. He said to me: " It looks like She has had a partial stroke! " i have to say that when i looked at Her Photo, i actually thought the same, which is why i asked Peter to look at the Photo just to confirm my suspicions. > > However... 'given the above info'... there is no apparent reason why Shri Mataji should not attempt to communicate... " unless She does not want to. " Perhaps what Jagbir is saying... is more true than we " even care to believe " . > > i will repeat what Jagbir has written: > > " That brings us back to the same question: But why is Shri Mataji silent for so long and continues to bear witness to the official orgies of the copulating parties tightly locked in embrace in their lust for power and self-aggrandizement? > > But then She promised to spread Sahaja Yoga before attaining Mahasamadhi. i know Her deafening silence has begun raising outsiders who will complete that task, and continue long after She has left. Shri Mataji has steered through the conflicting loyalties and aims of some of her so-called followers who are enemies in disguise. Despite all this, She has found the way to the goal of Her life, viz., universal Self-Realization! There is nothing WCASY or Sir Shiva can do to stop Her now. It does not matter anymore if Sir Shiva does not agree to uphold the truth of www.adishakti.org and www.al-qiyamah.org which Dr. B presented and made clear to him in a lengthy letter that called for his unconditional duty towards Shri Mataji. It is obvious that WCASY and Sir Shiva work hand in glove to suppress Shri Mataji's Divine Message to humanity, and both have made clear their intentions and we have evidence. The Adi Shakti, both within and without, knows that neither WCASY nor Sir CP is interested in propagating Her Incarnation and Message. > > i know deep in my heart that Shri Mataji did not summoned Dr. B to examine Her ear. In Her silence She has exposed all those who work against Her, specifically her husband Sir Shiva. She also laid bare the boldness and blasphemy humans are capable of, acts they would shuddered of committing when She was in Her element. Perhaps this was to be Her final act to expose the negativity that has overwhelmed the Sahaja Yoga organization. Perhaps all this is a harbinger of the trials and tribulations to be faced by the faithful, concerned and conscientious after She departs. > > Remember the supreme devotion (parabhakti) She has described? That is your only sanctuary now ............. seek Her within! " (End Quote) > > What Jagbir says resonates as the truth to me. > > violet > > > , Suzy Creamcheese > <suzyogi@> wrote: > > > > Dear Violet, > > > > Or maybe Shri Mataji's body had a stroke. Makes sense since her > left side seemed to be paralysed for some time (Although I saw her > use her left hand at the 2006 Shri Krishna Puja). > > Also makes sense that no one will admit to it, since if one has a > stroke one needs medical attention immediately. Now, if the daughter > took the time to call Sir CP and waited for his return before getting > medical attention, as was reported some time back, > > then it stands to reason that Shri Mataji's left side, speech and > cognitive skills could be effected. Certainly the family would not > want the knowledge to go out that they dragged their feet getting the > proper attention. So, another problem is circulated as truth. Even > if she has gotten her speech back, it may not be in the family's and > WCASY's best interest to allow lectures as her cognitive skills may > be effected. > > > > Just my theory but from what I've seen and heard the stroke > theory may be based on a true hypothosis. > > > > Suzy > > > > > > Violet <violet.tubb@> wrote: > > Dear All, > > > > But why is Shri Mataji silent for so long and continues to bear > witness? Perhaps the following is why Shri Mataji is silent for so > long and continues to bear witness. > > > > violet > > > > Sir CP > > One thing I want to mention - World Council - is that She (Shri > > Mataji) desires for me to convey to you that the World Council is > the > > highest authority in Sahaja Yoga, representing Her will. > > > > Shri Mataji > > Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. > > > > Sir C.P. > > And this will be, the World Council, will be the final deciding > > authority in Sahaja Yoga collectives. > > > > Shri Mataji > > Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. > > > > Sir C.P. > > There should be no doubt about that. > > > > Shri Mataji > > Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. > > > > Sir C.P. > > That is Her will, and on behalf of Her, the World Council will be > > acting. > > > > Shri Mataji > > Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. > > > > Sir C.P. > > Is that clear to everyone? > > > > Shri Mataji > > Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. > > > > Sir C.P. > > That is Her will and She asked me to convey this, and I am > conveying > > it to you. > > > > Shri Mataji > > Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. > > > > THE " OF COURSE! SCENARIO " > > > > i did not like the original scenario where Shri Mataji was expected > to say " OF COURSE " . So... in this scenario... i have Sir C.P. saying > it instead: > > > > Violet > > Sir C.P., you must be aware that Shri Mataji wrote a letter in > reference to yourself, where She stated that: " Any advice from him > should not be accepted at all. " > > > > Sir C.P. > > OF COURSE! > > > > Violet > > Sir... i therefore believe you should respect the Desire of Her > Devotees to do just as Shri Mataji has requested. > > > > Sir C.P. > > OF COURSE! > > > > (END OF THE " OF COURSE! SCENARIO " ... AND CONTINUATION OF SIR C.P.'S > ADVICE TO SAHAJA YOGIS): > > > > Sir CP > > The final authority is the World Council. > > > > Shri Mataji: > > Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. > > > > Sir CP > > Everything else emanates from the World Council. > > > > Shri Mataji > > Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. > > > > Sir C.P. > > Whatever decision is to be taken, the World Council takes, because > that is Her will. > > > > Shri Mataji > > Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. > > > > Sir C.P. > > The Council represents Her will. > > > > Shri Mataji > > Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. > > > > Sir C.P. > > Alright? > > > > Shri Mataji > > Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. > > > > Sir C.P. > > So there should be no confusion in future. > > > > Shri Mataji > > Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. > > > > Sir C.P. > > That has been decided. > > > > Shri Mataji > > Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. > > > > Sir C.P. > > Thereafter, what happens where is a matter for the World Council to > decide. > > > > Shri Mataji > > Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. > > > > Sir C.P. > > We have now to move forward, carry forward the message and act on > that basis. > > > > Violet > > Sir... it is more important to please Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi than > 100,000 WCASY members! > > > > 'Why, after hearing the kind of advice you gave, i am not surprised > at all that Shri Mataji said: " Any advice from him should not be > accepted at all. " > > > > violet > > > > http://www.sahajayoga.org/swan/view/swan_512_2006.asp > > http://www.adishakti.org/images/sm_1998_letter.JPG > > /message/ > 6321?var=1 & l=1 > > > > , > > " Violet " <violet.tubb@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > Shri Mataji hand-wrote a letter, in which She advised Sahaja > Yogis > > not to listen to " any " advice from her husband. Here is that letter: > > > > > > To Whomsoever It May Concern: > > > > > > " I want to state that nobody has any right on my body, without my > > permission. I should not be treated by any doctor vidya or any > other > > person. Specially my husband and my family members should not at > all > > have any say in my sickness. No one has to admit me in any > hospital. > > Even Sahaja Yogis can not admit me in the hospital or treat me or > > arrange any doctor for treatment for me. I want to declare that my > > family should never admit me in the hospital. Specially my husband > > has no right over my body AND ANY ADVICE FROM HIM SHOULD NOT BE > > ACCEPTED AT ALL. In short, I do not want to be admitted in any > > hospital by anyone. Before my death I will write what is to be done > > with my body. " > > > (sg. Mataji Nirmala devi - Mrs. Nirmala Srivastava 10th Dec. 1998) > > > http://www.adishakti.org/images/sm_1998_letter.JPG > > > > > > The letter above looks just like a letter a person would write, > if > > they want to be sure that they are treated... " or not treated " > > according to their own wishes. Shri Mataji seems to be > acknowledging > > in the above letter that She is already having... or will be having > > 'a sickness'. i imagine a letter like that would not be liked by > any > > husband or family (whoever they are)... yet every individual has > > exactly that right... to write such a letter, expressing their > > wishes... if they so please. > > > > > > And... Shri Mataji has such a right too. Just because She also is > > the Incarnation of the Adi Shakti, does not mean others have rights > > over Her Body or even over Her Will. In fact, She is clearly > > asserting in this letter that neither her husband, her family, or > > Sahaja Yogis have any rights over her body... without Her express > > permission: > > > > > > " I want to state that nobody has any right on my body, without my > > permission. " > > > > > > Therefore... in hindsight... perhaps that Drama in Italy was a > > Drama of Dharma to protect our Mother. i am sure i could hear the > > rumbling of a Quick Exit all the way from Down Under. i have never > > seen nor heard of Shri Mataji ever making such a speedy exit... > > especially when Her Children from Italy and other countries, were > > just wanting to make sure that Her wish (as per the above letter) > was > > being upheld. Therefore... it would appear, that the benefit of the > > QUICK EXIT was for WCASY and Co, who of course flew at lightning > > speed over the Atlantic Ocean into the Sheltering Reprieve of Alan > > Wherry Country... " USA " . In their happiness at a World First, the > > Italians were forgotten. What the Italians and others had to say... > > was dismissed. Any leaders involved... were sacked. The media blitz > > made the Italians and others " at fault " and made the WCASY look > like > > the Heroes that Rescued Their Mother " . i am sure, according to > > them... if the Letter were followed, She would not be given > > medications, unless She approved them... and to WCASY et al... > their > > Worldview appears to be that " no medication for Shri Mataji's > > sickness spells bodily danger " . i really believe they convinced > > themselves that they were rescuing Shri Mataji from the Italians. > > That is how it came across anyway. > > > > > > Here is the letter to " My dear Modi and other Sahaja Yogis " (of > > which the original was handwritten by SM)... and please pay special > > attention to Shri Mataji's Worldview of Her Body and what it is > meant > > to undergo for the mission for which it has been taken, and that > > therefore She is not bothered. She talks about working under > > anaesthesia... folks. This is not a normal lady... lets face it! > She > > also says that She " never has pains " . This is an official letter > > which She wanted everyone to see and read, because it gave us Her > > Bodily Worldview. (However, as Shri Mataji is 'wont to do'... She > > again hides this information very cleverly " right out in the open " > to > > be discovered... if we " really look " .) > > > > > > Here then is the letter, which She gave to Modi... with the > request > > to " please circulate this letter among all Sahaja Yogis " : > > > > > > My dear Modi and other Sahaja Yogis, > > > > > > Many blessings. Received your letter. I am very glad to know that > > > your Ida Nadi has become clean and I hope, Ida Nadis of all have > > > become clean at least to some extent. Here I had told all that I > > > would work, while under anaesthesia, to clean the Ida channels of > > > all. I worked for 3 days cleaning it by vomiting nearly 50 times > > > every day and it is nice that the cleaning has become possible. > > > > > > This physical being has to be used for the mission for which it > has > > > been taken and therefore I am not bothered by the illness and > other > > > troubles. On the contrary all such and different experiments with > > > this incarnation will have to be performed. > > > > > > Why are you so anxious about it? What else is the use of this > body? > > > I never have any pains. All I want is that, in the laboratory of > > > this body, some work or the other must go on. Time is short while > > > the work to be done is very big. > > > > > > You cannot do the cleaning of Ida channel only on the strength of > > > your realisation. I knew that it had to be cleaned from within. > > > > > > In ancient days all seekers had to do this action (Kriya) > constantly > > > right from their childhood at the residences of their gurus at > > > isolated places. The seekers had to do it individually in many > > > lives. Because, now you have attained the state of collectivity I > > > have done it in collective consciousness. > > > > > > Although you say I have done it, the distinction of you and I > should > > > not be there in collective consciousness. Mantras ''Twam Bhawani, > > > Twam Durga, Twam Ambika etc.'' are good for Ida Channel, but when > > > you are established in Sahaja Yoga, you will have to say 'Aham > > > Bhavani'. However this Mantra can be said only when your purity > > > becomes one with that of 'Aham Bhavani' and I tell you now itself > > > that this will happen. > > > > > > After cleaning the Ida Channel I am awakening Pingala Nadi. > > > Sahaja Yogis had become rather lethargic due to the conditioning > of > > > Ida Channel. Laziness and a tendency of avoiding the work was > > > dominating in them. Their attention was being frittered away on > > > avoiding the work. But I have now started the work of awakening > > > Pingala Channel. All of you should raise your right hand from > right > > > side over your head and leave it on the left side but while doing > > > it, you must apply your will power so that your desires will > > > materialize. > > > > > > With the awakening of collectivity, you will have many people to > > > share your work which you are doing alone. > > > > > > The sphere of Sahasrara envelops your heart. When conditioning of > > > heart is reduced, as if the glass of a lamp becomes clean, rays of > > > ever resplendent Spirit awaken Sahasrara sheath and the light of > > > bliss spreads, which is felt in Sahasrara. This light enlightens > all > > > sides of colourful heart and decorates it with the qualities which > > > can be described as pleasing, blissful etc. Gradually this state > > > will grow and become stable within you. > > > > > > Most of the Sahaja Yogis should try this method, but there should > > > not be merely the mechanical movement of hands. Whatever you do, > it > > > should be done with the faith that you have in worshipping, zeal > of > > > a warrior and sensitivity of an artist. There should be complete > > > purity in the recitation of Mantras to awaken the deities and your > > > heart must be involved in it. Only then the awakening will take > > > place. > > > > > > You should understand a simple principle. How can a big fire be > lit > > > with a small match stick? Will a wick hold the flame if water is > > > mixed in the oil? How can those Sahaja Yogis have enlightenment > who > > > are using Sahaja Yoga to solve only their own petty problems? And > > > why should God give them the enlightenment? Lighthouses do not > show > > > light to themselves even for a moment. Therefore, they are > > > considered so important and are looked after. > > > > > > Please circulate this letter among all Sahaja Yogis. > > > > > > Your Mother - NIRMALA > > > > > > > > > So... please note especially these words: > > > > > > " Why are you so anxious about it? What else is the use of this > > body? I never have any pains. All I want is that, in the laboratory > > of this body, some work or the other must go on. Time is short > while > > the work to be done is very big. " (End Quote) (Given what Shri > > Mataji says in these amazing words, and given what She says in the > > " To Whomsoever It May Concern " letter about not wanting > hospitals... > > it can be seen that the Spirit in the two letters indicate a 'same > > personality' with a similar 'bodily worldview'. > > > > > > i believe it was not long after that the Big Announcement with > the > > Infamous Response of " OF COURSE! " was recorded. A dramatic Letter > of > > Shri Mataji's that the Italians 'surfaced'... obviously demanded an > > equally dramatic and unprecedented " OF COURSE " from Shri Mataji. It > > was amazing how the two words of " Of Course " ... made the world " so > > right " for WCASY and Co. However, the question needs to be asked: > > > Did those two words of " OF COURSE " also 'make the world right' > for > > Mother? " > > > > > > Because i have a few questions: > > > > > > Why did WCASY not do the right thing and get a Handwriting Expert > > on the spot to clear any confusion and authenticate the Letter that > > the Italians claim Shri Mataji wrote? Because as administrators of > > Sahaja Yoga Organisation, they owe at least 'that much' to Sahaja > > Yogis worldwide. That they did not 'do so' (that is get a > handwriting > > expert) to verify the Letter... implicates WCASY very much... as > not > > doing the right thing. > > > > > > Now the job of WCASY as administration, is essentially > > communication: > > > " Leaders should be very careful. They should become free of all > > arrogance. They are only a communication link, like I have to put a > > letter in the envelope and post it. " (Gudi Padwa - 24 March, 1993) > > > (Excerpt Australian Sahaja Newsletter - 10 Feb. 1996) > > > > > > However, the communication severely broke down on two counts. The > > first count was the failure to get a Handwriting Expert to > > authenticate the Letter. The second, was to flee the country. Am i > > awake or am i dreaming or am i under some illusion? Because not to > > get a Handwriting Expert, and to flee the country at breakneck > speed. > > What does that indicate? (rhetorical question) > > > > > > So... 'as already given'... Shri Mataji has stated in Her > > (regarding her husband) that: > > > > > > " Any advice from him should not be accepted at all " . > > > > > > That was probably the teensy weensy bit in the letter that WCASY > > hated, and decided the better option was to get out of Italy real > > fast. > > > > > > So... what is this advice that Shri Mataji said " should not be > > accepted at all " ? Here it is: > > > > > > > > > Sir CP: > > > " One thing I want to mention - World Council - is that She (Shri > > Mataji) desires for me to convey to you that the World Council is > the > > highest authority in Sahaja Yoga, representing Her will. And this > > will be, the World Council, will be the final deciding authority in > > Sahaja Yoga collectives. There should be no doubt about that. That > is > > Her will, and on behalf of Her, the World Council will be acting. > Is > > that clear to everyone? That is Her will and She asked me to convey > > this, and I am conveying it to you. " > > > > > > Sir CP: > > > " The final authority is the World Council. Everything else > emanates > > from the World Council. Whatever decision is to be taken, the World > > Council takes, because that is Her will. The Council represents Her > > will. Alright? So there should be no confusion in future. That has > > been decided. Thereafter, what happens where is a matter for the > > World Council to decide. We have now to move forward, carry forward > > the message and act on that basis. " > > > > > > (Btw... in between the two paragraphs of Sir C.P.'s was the > famous > > alleged " OF COURSE " from Shri Mataji.) > > > > > > Now... lets remember that Shri Mataji advised us not to listen to > > any advice that Sir C.P. gave. As Sir C.P. was " giving advice " to > > which Shri Mataji 'supposedly agreed'... this is proof that Shri > > Mataji did not know what She was saying 'of course' to. If She knew > > what She was supposedly saying 'of course' too, She would not have > > agreed with it. All you have to do is read Her Letter to know She > > would not have agreed with it: > > > > > > To Whomsoever It May Concern: > > > > > > " I want to state that nobody has any right on my body, without my > > permission. I should not be treated by any doctor vidya or any > other > > person. Specially my husband and my family members should not at > all > > have any say in my sickness. No one has to admit me in any > hospital. > > Even Sahaja Yogis can not admit me in the hospital or treat me or > > arrange any doctor for treatment for me. I want to declare that my > > family should never admit me in the hospital. Specially my husband > > has no right over my body and any advice from him should not be > > accepted at all. In short, I do not want to be admitted in any > > hospital by anyone. Before my death I will write what is to be done > > with my body. " > > > (sg. Mataji Nirmala devi - Mrs. Nirmala Srivastava 10th Dec. 1998) > > > http://www.adishakti.org/images/sm_1998_letter.JPG > > > > > > Lets also not forget that the astrologers predictions are already > > coming true: > > > > > > " The T-square formations between Moon-Mars, Venus, Jupiter and > > Neptune, indicate that some of the plans of Mataji might be > hindered > > by obstructive activities of evil and negative forces. " (End Quote) > > > > > > (This part of the prediction has already come true. WCASY have > > obstructed knowledge of Shri Mataji's Identity, as well as Her > > Message of the Last Judgment and Resurrection to the world-at- > large. > > The astrologer's description of " obstructive activities of evil and > > negative forces " sounds 'spot on' too.) > > > > > > " Also Mataji might have to steer through conflicting loyalties > and > > aims, of some of her so-called followers who are enemies in > disguise. " > > > (End Quote) > > > > > > (We have shown how time and again that there are many " so- called- > > followers " who are not following Shri Mataji's Leading at all. That > > they are enemies in disguise is becoming very apparent. The episode > > in Italy, i think, is a prime example. i think this prediction has > > also already come true.) > > > > > > " But despite all this, she will find her way to the goal of her > > life, viz., universal Self-Realization! " . > > > /message/6321 > > > > > > violet > > > > > > > > > , " jagbir > > > singh " <adishakti_org@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This incident is evidence that Shri Mataji does not talk to > Sir > > CP > > > > > as has been claimed by WCASY and himself. It is just not true > as > > > > > She has stopped talking due to the medication administered to > > Her. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri Mataji used to be a prolific talker who literally spent the > > > > last three decades traversing and criss-crossing the globe every > > > > year in an effort to enlighten humanity. We all know the > > prodigious > > > > time and effort spent by Her in talking with fellow human > beings, > > > > sometimes for hours at end. She promised to spread Sahaja Yoga > > > > before attaining Mahasamadhi. > > > > > > > > Then a minor incident in April 2003 snowballed into what we have > > > > today. Shri Mataji, then an octogenarian, had some > hallucinations. > > > > It ended with Her being given an anti-psychotic drug > Risperidone. > > > > > > > > Since being given medication She has not communicated with any > > > > person in any meaningful way over the last three years. i > thought > > > > the medication was the cause of Her inability to talk. However > > today > > > > i have realized that is NOT THE CASE! Risperidone does not > silence > > > > the patient. > > > > > > > > " Side Effects > > > > > > > > RISPERDAL® (risperidone) is generally safe and effective for > > > > treating the symptoms of schizophrenia. > > > > > > > > With any medication, some people have side effects and some > don't. > > > > If you have any side effects with RISPERDAL, or feel you're not > > > > getting better, please talk to your doctor. > > > > > > > > The most common side effects that may occur with RISPERDAL are: > > > > anxiety, sleepiness, restlessness, tremors, and muscle > stiffness; > > > > dizziness, constipation, nausea, indigestion, runny nose, rash, > > and > > > > rapid heartbeat. > > > > > > > > Studies suggest an increased risk of elevated blood sugar- > related > > > > side effects, and sometimes potentially fatal, in patients > treated > > > > with this class of medications, including RISPERDAL. Some > people > > may > > > > need regular blood sugar testing. > > > > > > > > Some people taking RISPERDAL may feel faint or lightheaded when > > they > > > > stand up or sit up too quickly. By standing up or sitting up > > slowly > > > > and following your doctor's dosing instructions, this side > effect > > > > may be reduced or it may go away over time. > > > > > > > > You may have heard the term " extrapyramidal symptoms (EPS). " > These > > > > are usually reversible movement disorders or muscle > disturbances, > > > > such as restlessness, tremors, and muscle stiffness. Some people > > > > taking RISPERDAL have these side effects. In clinical studies, > > these > > > > side effects were uncommon at lower doses, but did increase with > > > > higher doses. If you have these symptoms, talk to your doctor. > > > > > > > > You may have heard the term " tardive dyskinesia. " These are > > > > potentially irreversible, uncontrollable, slow or jerky facial > or > > > > body movements that can be caused by all medications of this > type > > > > (antipsychotics). If you have these symptoms, talk to your > doctor. > > > > Only your doctor should adjust your dose or stop your > medication. " > > > > > > > > www.risperdal.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > So why is Shri Mataji so silent for so long? It is as if Shri > > > > Mahamaya is playing a game with those who have boldly hijacked > Her > > > > Will and now raised and praised Sir CP to be the incarnation of > > Shri > > > > Shiva. Sir Shiva, in return for such a blessing, has empowered > > WCASY > > > > to act as judge, jury and executioner. > > > > > > > > Violet has raised a very troubling point that also pricked my > > > > conscience: > > > > > > > > " Here then is the advice given from the person of whom Shri > Mataji > > > > wrote: " Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. " > > > > (http://www.adishakti.org/images/sm_1998_letter.JPG) When you > read > > > > what he advised... i am sure it will become clear why Shri > Mataji > > > > told us not to listen to him: > > > > > > > >; Sir CP: > > > > > > > > " One thing I want to mention - World Council - is that She (Shri > > > > Mataji) desires for me to convey to you that the World Council > is > > > > the highest authority in Sahaja Yoga, representing Her will. And > > > > this will be, the World Council, will be the final deciding > > > > authority in Sahaja Yoga collectives. There should be no doubt > > about > > > > that. That is Her will, and on behalf of Her, the World Council > > will > > > > be acting. Is that clear to everyone? That is Her will and She > > asked > > > > me to convey this, and I am conveying it to you. The final > > authority > > > > is the World Council. Everything else emanates from the World > > > > Council. Whatever decision is to be taken, the World Council > > takes, > > > > because that is Her will. The Council represents Her will. > > Alright? > > > > So there should be no confusion in future. That has been > decided. > > > > Thereafter, what happens where is a matter for the World > Council > > to > > > > decide. We have now to move forward, carry forward the message > and > > > > act on that basis. " > > > > > > > > http://www.sahajayoga.org/swan/view/swan_512_2006.asp > > > > /message/ > > > 6321?threaded=1 & l=1 > > > > > > > > " The T-square formations between Moon-Mars, Venus, Jupiter and > > > > Neptune, indicate that some of the plans of Mataji might be > > hindered > > > > by obstructive activities of evil and negative forces. Also > Mataji > > > > might have to steer through conflicting loyalties and aims, of > > some > > > > of her so-called followers who are enemies in disguise. But > > despite > > > > all this, she will find her way to the goal of her life, viz., > > > > universal Self-Realization! " . > > > > > > > > /message/ 6321 > > > > > > > > That brings us back to the same question: But why is Shri Mataji > > > > silent for so long and continues to bear witness to the official > > > > orgies of the copulating parties tightly locked in embrace in > > their > > > > lust for power and self-aggrandizement? > > > > > > > > But then She promised to spread Sahaja Yoga before attaining > > > > Mahasamadhi. i know Her deafening silence has begun raising > > > > outsiders who will complete that task, and continue long after > She > > > > has left. Shri Mataji has steered through the conflicting > > loyalties > > > > and aims of some of her so-called followers who are enemies in > > > > disguise. Despite all this, She has found the way to the goal > of > > Her > > > > life, viz., universal Self-Realization! There is nothing WCASY > or > > > > Sir Shiva can do to stop Her now. It does not matter anymore if > > Sir > > > > Shiva does not agree to uphold the truth of www.adishakti.org > and > > > > www.al-qiyamah.org which Dr. B presented and made clear to him > in > > a > > > > lengthy letter that called for his unconditional duty towards > Shri > > > > Mataji. It is obvious that WCASY and Sir Shiva work hand in > glove > > to > > > > suppress Shri Mataji's Divine Message to humanity, and both have > > > > made clear their intentions and we have evidence. The Adi > Shakti, > > > > both within and without, knows that neither WCASY nor Sir CP is > > > > interested in propagating Her incarnation and Message. > > > > > > > > i know deep in my heart that Shri Mataji did not summoned Dr. B > to > > > > examine Her ear. In Her silence She has exposed all those who > work > > > > against Her, specifically her husband Sir Shiva. She also laid > > bare > > > > the boldness and blasphemy humans are capable of, acts they > would > > > > shuddered of committing when She was in Her element. Perhaps > this > > > > was to be Her final act to expose the negativity that has > > > > overwhelmed the Sahaja Yoga organization. Perhaps all this is a > > > > harbinger of the trials and tribulations to be faced by the > > > > faithful, concerend and conscientious after She departs. > > > > > > > > Remember the supreme devotion (parabhakti) She has described? > That > > > > is your only sanctuary now ............. seek Her within! > > > > > > > > Jagbir > > > > > > > > > > > > Note: John Noyce, please sent a copy of this email to WCASY and > > Sir > > > Shiva. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " jagbir singh " > > > > <adishakti_org@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Xxxxxx, > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for this 'shocking' mail. i did not know Sir CP is > now > > > > > regarded as Shiva. Shri Mataji never ever even once hinted > that > > > her > > > > > husband was in any way divine. On the contrary, She did lament > > > that > > > > > even Her own family (husband and children) do not recognize > Her. > > > > > How come now when Shri Mataji is old, drugged and > incapacitated > > we > > > > > start hearing of things She never said? i.e., words are put > in > > Her > > > > > mouth because She refuses to say so on Her own. > > > > > > > > > > So maybe we will have to wait for Sir C P to officially > announce > > > > > that he is Shiva. Perhaps then WCASY can request SYs to start > > > > > meditating on his lotus feet too. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > jagbir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Note: i just realized that WCASY's Sir Shiva has a serious > > > > > credibility problem that will now haunt all of them. It is as > if > > > > > Shri Mataji knew what was coming and gifted the guilty parties > > > with > > > > > enough rope to hang all who participated in this terrible > > > > > transgression and blasphemy despite Shri Mataji's explicit > > > > > instructions: " Specially my husband has no right over my body > > and > > > > > any advice from him should not be accepted at all " . > > > > > > > > > > Why do i have this feeling that WCASY's Sir Shiva will need a > > lot > > > > > of smoke and mirrors to pull this off?............. sorry, i > > > forgot > > > > > wool for SYs. But does Sir C P know he has been elevated to > > Shiva > > > > > by WCASY, perhaps without his knowledge or consent? WCASY is > > more > > > > > sinister than we think ............... and time will tell. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > i read Shri Mataji's 1998 letter again and compared it with > > Her > > > > > > previous chakra notes. Even with the brief notes i found > that > > > > > > letters " a, b, d. h. m, n, r, y " matched in both documents > > i.e., > > > > > > there is no need for a handwriting expert. By all means Shri > > > > > > Mataji did write the letter below to all SYs and is no > > forgery. > > > > > > So what did She declare to all SYs? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To whomsoever it may concern > > > > > > > > > > > > I want to state that nobody has any right on my body, > without > > my > > > > > > permission I should not be treated by any doctor vidya or > any > > > > > > other person. > > > > > > > > > > > > Specially my husband and my family members should not at all > > > have > > > > > > any say in my sickness, no one has to admit me in any > > hospital. > > > > > > Even Sahaja Yogis cannot admit me to the hospital or treat > me > > or > > > > > > arrange any doctor for treatment for me. > > > > > > > > > > > > I want to declare that my family should never never admit > me > > in > > > > > > the hospital. Specially my husband has no right over my > body > > and > > > > > > any advice from him should not be accepted at all. In short > I > > do > > > > > > not want to be admitted in any hospital by anyone. > > > > > > > > > > > > Before my death I will write what is to be done with my > body. > > > > > > > > > > > > sg. Mataji Nirmala Devi > > > > > > Mrs. Nirmala Srivastava > > > > > > 10th. Dec 1998 > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.adishakti.org/images/sm_1998_letter.JPG > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Jagbir, > > > > > > > > > > Jai Shri Mataji! We're so glad to have been told about your > Shri > > > > > Adishakti website because it has been very difficult and > > > frustrated > > > > > of not being able to express our views in these past two > years > > due > > > > > to the total control of the Sahaj official website and > national > > > > > websites around the world by WCASY and their followers. > > > > > > > > > > My husband and I, who have been in Sahaj for more than 20 > years, > > > > > truly admire you and your family for having such tremendous > > > courage > > > > > and inner strength to stand up for the Truth and sticking to > > your > > > > > principles because we also have been subjected to similar > fate > > as > > > > > you have been through in the past 3 years. We also have great > > > > > admiration for those true yogis like Sergei, Guido, Derek, Al > > > > > Ganesh, Henry Ho, the late Dr. Harald Knobel, Avinash and > > several > > > > > more of my true brothers and sisters, whose characters have > been > > > > > tarnished, vilified and defamed publicly around the world in > > > recent > > > > >; years by WCASY and their followers. How many times have Shri > > > Mataji > > > > > talked of Love? It is so apparent that after all these years > > > > > they've never felt God's love in their heart and this is why > so > > > > > many of them have fallen in the spider's web. > > > > > > > > > > However much they try to attack and discredit me, they can > never > > > > > ever ever destroy my spirit, my faith and my love for Shri > > Mataji > > > > > which are a permanent fixture in my heart! I must say, there > > have > > > > > been times when the attacks they inflicted upon me was so > > > > > horrendous that it has posed risk to my health and danger to > me > > > > > and my family, I thought I would not be able to last any > longer. > > > > > My survival through this awful time only comes from the > > > > > protection, guidance and love of Shri Mataji and using > clearing > > > > > and cleansing techniques which She has recommended to us on a > > > > > regular basis. She would come into my dreams regularly before, > > > > > during or after an attack either to forewarn, to indicate, to > > > > > soothe, to advice, to love, to correct or to reassure me. > > > > > > > > > > My family and I withdrew from the collective which has > nothing > > to > > > > > do of how we've been treated, but it has to do of how they, > > > > > disgustingly, have been treating our Holy Divine Mother, God > > > > > Almighty, Shri Adi Shakti for the past 3 and a half years. > > Often I > > > > > would cry my eyes out and feel so ashamed of us as human > beings > > > who > > > > > have been giving the greatest blessing of all and look at what > > > > > they've done in the name of God. They violate Her Divine body > by > > > > > silen(cing) Her with this anti-psychotic drug, they parade Her > > > > > around without any respect for Her physical well being, they > > have > > > > > group photos taken with Shri Mataji in order to pamper their > > ego, > > > > > they totally disregard all protocols which are needed to be > > > > > observed for Shri Adi Shakti, they anointed and pontificated > > Sir C > > > > > P and claimed publicly that Shri Mataji speaks through him and > > > > > that he is Shiva, they sanctified Kalpina and Sadna by using > > shri > > > > > before their names, they show photo of Sir C P's feet in the > > > > > official website, they praised Sir C P by chanting " Bolo, shri > > > > > papaji qui jay! " at the last Diwali puja, and finally, the > > > > > ultimate sin committed against Shri Mataji is that they are > > doing > > > > > their utmost to destroy by politicising, organising and > > distorting > > > > > the teachings and works of God Almighty! > > > > > > > > > > Shri Mataji has said that She is the Adi Shakti and She is the > > > only > > > > > Incarnation on this earth, are they deaf or what? For all the > > > years > > > > > we've been in Sahaj, of course we've great respect Sir C P > and > > his > > > > > family, we never once regarded them as SYs. The only member > of > > the > > > > > family who is a SY was Shri Mataji's beloved brother, > BabaMama. > > I > > > > > would like to ask if anybody has witnessed any members of the > > > > > family worship, meditate and bow to Shri Mataji at pujas in > all > > > > > these years? > > > > > > > > > > I know that those who are now considered as 'outsiders' will > > > > > continue carrying the divine flame of Shri Mataji's and no > one > > on > > > > > this earth, particularly the WCASY and their followers, can > stop > > > us > > > > > from spreading the True Message of our Holy Divine Mother. > > > Gregoire > > > > > had mentioned about fear in us, but do they have fear of the > > wrath > > > > > of God? > > > > > > > > > > Jagbir, we'll keep in touch. > > > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > > > > > > > Xxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir CP had no right to make public Shri Mataji's medical health > > and > > > > file > > > > > > > > Dear Xxxxxxx, > > > > > > > > i consider Sir C P's divulging of Shri Mataji's medical health > and > > > > history to all SY leaders as one of the greatest misfortune in > > > > Sahaja Yoga history. Such matters were supposed to be strictly > > > > confidential that, in order to be made public, required the > > express > > > > permission of Shri Mataji due to the highly damaging and > explosive > > > > nature of the medical file. > > > > > > > > > > > > WHAT INFORMATION IS SUBJECT TO PROTECTIONS CONCERNING MEDICAL > > RECORD > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY? > > > > > > > > Any information about you, whether in electronic or physical > form, > > > > regarding your medical history, mental or physical condition, or > > > > treatment is subject to California laws protecting your medical > > > > record confidentiality. > > > > > > > > WHAT DOES AN AUTHORIZATION FORM FOR RELEASE OF MY MEDICAL > RECORDS > > > > HAVE TO INCLUDE TO BE VALID? > > > > > > > > To be valid, an authorization form used by health care > providers, > > > > HMOs and health care contractors must: > > > > > > > > Be handwritten by you (or your authorized representative > signing > > the > > > > authorization form) or be typewritten in no smaller than 8- point > > > > type. > > > > > > > > Be clearly separate from any other language on the same page and > > > > have a line for your signature that serves no purpose other > than > > to > > > > authorize the release of your information. > > > > > > > > Be signed by one of the following: > > > > > > > > -- you, the patient, > > > > -- your legal representative if you are a minor or incompetent, > > > > -- the beneficiary or personal representative of a deceased > > patient, > > > > -- or your spouse or person financially responsible for you for > > the > > > > sole purpose of processing an application for health care > > insurance > > > > or enrollment in a health care service plan or employee benefit > > plan > > > > when you are to be an enrolled spouse or dependent under the > > policy > > > > or plan. > > > > -- Specify the uses and limitations on the types of medical > > > > information to be disclosed, > > > >; -- Specify the name or functions of the health care provider > that > > > > may disclose the information, > > > > -- State the name or functions of the persons or entities > > authorized > > > > to receive the medical information, > > > > -- State the specific uses and limitations on the use of the > > medical > > > > information by the persons or entities authorized to receive the > > > > medical information, > > > > -- State a specific date after which the health care provider > is > > no > > > > longer authorized to disclose your medical record information, > and > > > > -- State that you have a right to receive a copy of the > > > > authorization.12 > > > > > > > > CAN MY DOCTOR OR HMO RELEASE MY MEDICAL RECORDS WITHOUT MY > > CONSENT? > > > > > > > > Yes, but only in certain limited situations when necessary to > > > > provide you with appropriate health care. Your doctor or HMO is > > > > required to release your medical record information, even > without > > > >; your written authorization, to the following: > > > > > > > > A court pursuant to a court order. > > > > > > > > A board, commission, or administrative agency for purposes of > > > > resolving a dispute pursuant to its lawful authority. > > > > > > > > A party to a proceeding before a court or administrative agency > > > > pursuant to an investigative subpoena. > > > > > > > > An arbitrator or arbitration panel, when arbitration is lawfully > > > > requested by either party pursuant to a subpoena. > > > > > > > > A government law enforcement agency pursuant to a search warrant > > > > > > > > http://www.calpatientguide.org/iii.html > > > > > > > > > > > > None of the above conditions or reasons were met. > > > > > > > > Yes, some SYs may wonder why am i saying it only now. Well, i > was > > > > under the impression that the 10th. Dec 1998 letter of Shri > Mataji > > > > was a forgery i.e., She never wrote it. Only lately i realized > > that > > > > She did in fact write it and Her instructions were crystal > clear > > and > > > > unequivocal. > > > > > > > > If WCASY had sided with Her instead of Sir CP, or at least got > Her > > > > express permission first for medical treatment and release of > > > > information, the present crisis would not have come. After all, > > how > > > > difficult was it for them to ask Shri Mataji on probably Her > most > > > > important personal desire? WCASY seems to have all the time and > > > > luxury to ask 1001 mundane questions but not concerning Her > > express > > > > written order!!!??? How many of you would want your medical > file > > be > > > > made public without your permission? This reeks of a most > > > > frightening negativity and foul play! > > > > > > > > So SYs now think that WCASY's claim that Shri Mataji speaks > > through > > > > Sir CP is true and that he is Shiva? Let me tell you something > to > > > > the contrary. > > > > > > > > Last year a SY ENT expert, Dr. B, was summoned to Genoa, Italy > by > > > > Sir CP to treat Shri Mataji's ear as She is hard of hearing. At > > the > > > > appointed hour Dr. B met Sir CP and Shri Mataji. Dr. B asked > Shri > > > > Mataji if She wanted to be treated. There was no reply from Her. > > > > Then Dr. B again asked in a louder voice if he could examine > Her. > > > > Again Shri Mataji remained silent. > > > > > > > > It was then when Sir CP told Dr. B to go ahead as She had > agreed. > > > > Dr. B was quite shocked by Sir CP's insincerity since Shri > Mataji > > > > never gave any verbal hint or physical gesture that She can be > > > > examined. Dr. B then silently asked Her for forgiveness as he > was > > > > about to perform an ear examination without Her permission. This > > > > incident is evidence that Shri Mataji does not talk to Sir CP > as > > has > > > > been claimed by WCASY and himself. It is just not true as She > has > > > > stopped talking due to the medication administered to Her. > > > > > > > > WCASY's claim that Sir CP is Shiva is just pure fabrication. It > > was > > > > necessary for WCASY to bestow divinity on him as Sir CP holds > the > > de > > > > facto power in the organization, not Shri Mataji. She is now > > reduced > > > > to a mere puppet involuntarily holding a rubber stamp that is > used > > > > by WCASY to endorse and bless any undertaking - from > assassinating > > > > Guido, poisoning Avinash, garroting Perezhogin to suppressing my > > > > websites and demonizing my children. WCASY and their hired hit > man > > > > Alan Wherry is rumored to have now set the crosshair on Derek > Lee. > > > > Yes, WCASY claims that all such acts have the blessings of Shri > > > > Mataji who 'speaks' through Sir Shiva ................. just ask > > > > Dr. B and you will know how much Shri Mataji's talks to Sir CP, > in > > > > public or private. > > > > > > > > But the main question is: " Did Sir CP have Shri Mataji's > > permission > > > > to make public Her medical health and file " ? i have the right > to > > ask > > > > because WCASY and Sir CP are now putting too many words in Her > > > > incapacitated mouth. Their outrageous claim that Sir CP is > > actually > > > > Shiva is the last straw. Tens of thousands of SYs are either too > > > > blissfully unaware or unfortunately dull to comprehend what is > at > > > > stake! It is outsiders like us who have to wake them up. > > > > > > > > Everything will be alright one day – i am sure too that the > > darkest > > > > hour comes just before dawn. Your Mother Kundalini within is > > > > recording all during the Last Judgment! Don't be fooled by > humans > > > > who claim to be Her Will or Shiva. The Devi within has no > partners > > > > or spouse. Even Shri Shiva meditates on Her! So do all others - > > Shri > > > > Ganesha, Jesus, Krishna, Radha, Rama, Sita, Brahma, Saraswati, > > > > Prophet Muhammad, Guru Nanak, Mahavira, Buddha - and all > liberated > > > > souls in the Spirit World. So stand your sacred ground and don't > > > > budge an inch. Gladly leave the organization to continue on > your > > own > > > > but don't ever sell your soul to WCASY or Sir Shiva. Your > > allegiance > > > > and attention at all times must be exclusively, unconditionally > > and > > > > without any question whatsoever on the Adi Shakti, the Devi > > within: > > > > > > > > " Now listen attentively about the supreme devotion (parabhakti) > > > > which I will now describe to you. He always hears my glories and > > > > recites my name. His mind always dwells in me, like the > incessant > > > > flow of oil, and he is the receptacle of all good qualities and > > > > gunas. But he does not have the least trace of any desire to > get > > the > > > > fruits of his actions (karma). Indeed, he does not want the > > various > > > > levels of release (moksha), including being on the same plane > as > > God > > > > (salokya), nearness to God (samipya), having the form of God > > > > (sarsti), union with God (sayujya) and other forms of release. > > > > Devi continues noting that true worshipers abandons all > concepts > > of > > > > themselves, completely identify themselves with Devi, and make > no > > > > distinctions between themselves and anything else. Worshipers > find > > > > Devi in everything, including other souls: > > > > > > > > He becomes filled with devotion for me alone, worships me only, > > > > knows nothing higher than to serve me, and he does not even want > > > > final release. He does not like neglecting the notions of > > " serving " > > > > (sevya) and the " servant who serves " (sevaka). He always > meditates > > > > on me with a constant vigilance, actuated by a feeling of > supreme > > > > devotion. He does not think of himself as separate from me, but > > > > rather thinks to himself, " I am the Lord (Bhagavati). " He > > considers > > > > all souls (jivas) as myself, and loves me as he loves himself. > He > > > > makes no distinction between the souls and myself since he > finds > > the > > > > same pure consciousness (caitanya) everywhere and manifested in > > all. > > > > He does not quarrel with anyone since he has abandoned all > ideas > > of > > > > separateness. He bows down and worships the pure consciousness > and > > > > all the souls. He becomes filled with the highest love when he > > sees > > > > my place, sees my devotees, hears the scriptures, describes my > > > > deeds, and meditates on my mantras. His hairs stand on end out > of > > > > love for me and his tears of love flow incessantly from both of > > his > > > > eyes. He recites my name deeds in a voice that is choked with > > > > feelings of love for me. With intense feeling he worships me as > > the > > > > mother of this universe and the cause of all causes. " [Devi > > > > Bhagavata Purana, 7.37] > > > > > > > > Jai Shri Ganapathy, > > > > > > > > > > > > jagbir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out the all-new Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful > email and get things done faster. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 Dear Violet, She obviously wrote a letter, and gave it to a trusted Sahaja Yogi. Who was this trusted Yogi? Guido? I remain suspect of the letters that surfaced on the internet, including the one reportedly from Sir CP. thanks, Suzy Violet <violet.tubb wrote: Dear Jagbir,My husband who is an R.N. tells me that risperidone/respiridol... apart from being used for treatment of psychosis... can also be used for behavioural management, but this has nothing to do with the stroke itself. A stroke, however often results in agitation and confusion... and in some instances respiridol may be given for behavioural management. It is often used in dementia too... for behavioural management. Peter says that hallucinations are not common with strokes, but they can happen. However, he says that if they do happen... they are very short-term.Whatever the case may be, the fact is that Shri Mataji "did" take the respiridol/respiridone... whether She took it knowingly or unknowingly, willingly, or unwillingly. However... i pose the question that:Why did Shri Mataji not just say "NO" and push the risperidol away... if She did not want the medication?i asked Peter that question, and he said that if She has either stroke, dementia, or psychosis.... then Her cognitive ability is impaired... and She will do as She is told. So... i can only surmise that She did not push away the medication and say "No"! because of impaired cognitive functioning. In other words... She complied, because as Peter explained it to me... 'a person with stroke, dementia, or psychosis... will do what they are told.Shri Mataji must have known what was happening to Her physical body. She obviously wrote a letter, and gave it to a trusted Sahaja Yogi. That She did not give this letter to WCASY... or to her husband nor family... speaks volumes. They were obviously left 'out of the loop'. They were obviously not trusted. You just have to read Her Letter, to understand the same:To whomsoever it may concernI want to state that nobody has any right on my body, without my permission I should not be treated by any doctor vidya or any other person.Specially my husband and my family members should not at all have any say in my sickness, no one has to admit me in any hospital. Even Sahaja Yogis cannot admit me to the hospital or treat me or arrange any doctor for treatment for me.I want to declare that my family should never never admit me in the hospital. Specially my husband has no right over my body and any advice from him should not be accepted at all. In short I do not want to be admitted in any hospital by anyone.Before my death I will write what is to be done with my body.sg. Mataji Nirmala DeviMrs. Nirmala Srivastava10th. Dec 1998But... if because of impaired cognitive functioning, Shri Mataji will comply to whatever is put before Her... where does that leave the "Highjackers of Her Will". As the Incarnation of the Adi Shakti... i am sure Shri Mataji has foreknowledge of Her Own Life, and prepared for all contingencies regarding Her 'sickness'... and that is why She wrote the letter... a letter that tells more than any WCASY or Sir C.P. would want the world-at-large to know.So... She is still working everything out in Her Own Way! She is miles ahead of everyone... and 'all the while'... that 'rope of liberty' that Shri Mataji gave to SY Leaders... and which they have abused... they are slowly but surely 'hanging themselves' with it.violet , "jagbir singh" <adishakti_org wrote:>> >> > This incident is evidence that Shri Mataji does not talk to Sir CP> > as has been claimed by WCASY and himself. It is just not true as> > She has stopped talking due to the medication administered to Her.> >> > Shri Mataji used to be a prolific talker who literally spent the> last three decades traversing and criss-crossing the globe every> year in an effort to enlighten humanity. We all know the prodigious> time and effort spent by Her in talking with fellow human beings,> sometimes for hours at end. She promised to spread Sahaja Yoga> before attaining Mahasamadhi.> > Then a minor incident in April 2003 snowballed into what we have> today. Shri Mataji, then an octogenarian, had some hallucinations.> It ended with Her being given an anti-psychotic drug Risperidone.> > Since being given medication She has not communicated with any> person in any meaningful way over the last three years. i thought> the medication was the cause of Her inability to talk. However today> i have realized that is NOT THE CASE! Risperidone does not silence> the patient.> > "Side Effects> > RISPERDAL® (risperidone) is generally safe and effective for> treating the symptoms of schizophrenia.> > With any medication, some people have side effects and some don't.> If you have any side effects with RISPERDAL, or feel you're not> getting better, please talk to your doctor.> > The most common side effects that may occur with RISPERDAL are:> anxiety, sleepiness, restlessness, tremors, and muscle stiffness;> dizziness, constipation, nausea, indigestion, runny nose, rash, and> rapid heartbeat.> > Studies suggest an increased risk of elevated blood sugar-related> side effects, and sometimes potentially fatal, in patients treated> with this class of medications, including RISPERDAL. Some people may> need regular blood sugar testing.> > Some people taking RISPERDAL may feel faint or lightheaded when they> stand up or sit up too quickly. By standing up or sitting up slowly> and following your doctor's dosing instructions, this side effect> may be reduced or it may go away over time.> > You may have heard the term "extrapyramidal symptoms (EPS)." These> are usually reversible movement disorders or muscle disturbances,> such as restlessness, tremors, and muscle stiffness. Some people> taking RISPERDAL have these side effects. In clinical studies, these> side effects were uncommon at lower doses, but did increase with> higher doses. If you have these symptoms, talk to your doctor.> > You may have heard the term "tardive dyskinesia." These are> potentially irreversible, uncontrollable, slow or jerky facial or> body movements that can be caused by all medications of this type> (antipsychotics). If you have these symptoms, talk to your doctor.> Only your doctor should adjust your dose or stop your medication."> > www.risperdal.com/> > > So why is Shri Mataji so silent for so long? It is as if Shri> Mahamaya is playing a game with those who have boldly hijacked Her> Will and now raised and praised Sir CP to be the incarnation of Shri> Shiva. Sir Shiva, in return for such a blessing, has empowered WCASY> to act as judge, jury and executioner.> > Violet has raised a very troubling point that also pricked my> conscience:> > "Here then is the advice given from the person of whom Shri Mataji> wrote: "Any advice from him should not be accepted at all."> (http://www.adishakti.org/images/sm_1998_letter.JPG) When you read> what he advised... i am sure it will become clear why Shri Mataji> told us not to listen to him:> > Sir CP:> > "One thing I want to mention - World Council - is that She (Shri> Mataji) desires for me to convey to you that the World Council is> the highest authority in Sahaja Yoga, representing Her will. And> this will be, the World Council, will be the final deciding> authority in Sahaja Yoga collectives. There should be no doubt about> that. That is Her will, and on behalf of Her, the World Council will> be acting. Is that clear to everyone? That is Her will and She asked> me to convey this, and I am conveying it to you. The final authority> is the World Council. Everything else emanates from the World> Council. Whatever decision is to be taken, the World Council takes,> because that is Her will. The Council represents Her will. Alright?> So there should be no confusion in future. That has been decided.> Thereafter, what happens where is a matter for the World Council to> decide. We have now to move forward, carry forward the message and> act on that basis."> > http://www.sahajayoga.org/swan/view/swan_512_2006.asp> /message/6321?threaded=1 & l=1> > "The T-square formations between Moon-Mars, Venus, Jupiter and> Neptune, indicate that some of the plans of Mataji might be hindered> by obstructive activities of evil and negative forces. Also Mataji> might have to steer through conflicting loyalties and aims, of some> of her so-called followers who are enemies in disguise. But despite> all this, she will find her way to the goal of her life, viz.,> universal Self-Realization!".> > /message/6321> > That brings us back to the same question: But why is Shri Mataji> silent for so long and continues to bear witness to the official> orgies of the copulating parties tightly locked in embrace in their> lust for power and self-aggrandizement?> > But then She promised to spread Sahaja Yoga before attaining> Mahasamadhi. i know Her deafening silence has begun raising> outsiders who will complete that task, and continue long after She> has left. Shri Mataji has steered through the conflicting loyalties> and aims of some of her so-called followers who are enemies in> disguise. Despite all this, She has found the way to the goal of Her> life, viz., universal Self-Realization! There is nothing WCASY or> Sir Shiva can do to stop Her now. It does not matter anymore if Sir> Shiva does not agree to uphold the truth of www.adishakti.org and> www.al-qiyamah.org which Dr. B presented and made clear to him in a> lengthy letter that called for his unconditional duty towards Shri> Mataji. It is obvious that WCASY and Sir Shiva work hand in glove to> suppress Shri Mataji's Divine Message to humanity, and both have> made clear their intentions and we have evidence. The Adi Shakti,> both within and without, knows that neither WCASY nor Sir CP is> interested in propagating Her incarnation and Message.> > i know deep in my heart that Shri Mataji did not summoned Dr. B to> examine Her ear. In Her silence She has exposed all those who work> against Her, specifically her husband Sir Shiva. She also laid bare> the boldness and blasphemy humans are capable of, acts they would> shuddered of committing when She was in Her element. Perhaps this> was to be Her final act to expose the negativity that has> overwhelmed the Sahaja Yoga organization. Perhaps all this is a> harbinger of the trials and tribulations to be faced by the> faithful, concerend and conscientious after She departs.> > Remember the supreme devotion (parabhakti) She has described? That> is your only sanctuary now ............. seek Her within!> > Jagbir> > > Note: John Noyce, please sent a copy of this email to WCASY and Sir Shiva.> > > > > , "jagbir singh"> <adishakti_org@> wrote:> >> >> > Dear Xxxxxx,> >> > Thank you for this 'shocking' mail. i did not know Sir CP is now> > regarded as Shiva. Shri Mataji never ever even once hinted that her> > husband was in any way divine. On the contrary, She did lament that> > even Her own family (husband and children) do not recognize Her.> > How come now when Shri Mataji is old, drugged and incapacitated we> > start hearing of things She never said? i.e., words are put in Her> > mouth because She refuses to say so on Her own.> >> > So maybe we will have to wait for Sir C P to officially announce> > that he is Shiva. Perhaps then WCASY can request SYs to start> > meditating on his lotus feet too.> >> > regards,> >> > jagbir> >> >> > Note: i just realized that WCASY's Sir Shiva has a serious> > credibility problem that will now haunt all of them. It is as if> > Shri Mataji knew what was coming and gifted the guilty parties with> > enough rope to hang all who participated in this terrible> > transgression and blasphemy despite Shri Mataji's explicit> > instructions: "Specially my husband has no right over my body and> > any advice from him should not be accepted at all".> >> > Why do i have this feeling that WCASY's Sir Shiva will need a lot> > of smoke and mirrors to pull this off?............. sorry, i forgot> > wool for SYs. But does Sir C P know he has been elevated to Shiva> > by WCASY, perhaps without his knowledge or consent? WCASY is more> > sinister than we think ............... and time will tell.> >> >> > >> > > Dear All,> > >> > > i read Shri Mataji's 1998 letter again and compared it with Her> > > previous chakra notes. Even with the brief notes i found that> > > letters "a, b, d. h. m, n, r, y" matched in both documents i.e.,> > > there is no need for a handwriting expert. By all means Shri> > > Mataji did write the letter below to all SYs and is no forgery.> > > So what did She declare to all SYs?> > >> > >> > > To whomsoever it may concern> > >> > > I want to state that nobody has any right on my body, without my> > > permission I should not be treated by any doctor vidya or any> > > other person.> > >> > > Specially my husband and my family members should not at all have> > > any say in my sickness, no one has to admit me in any hospital.> > > Even Sahaja Yogis cannot admit me to the hospital or treat me or> > > arrange any doctor for treatment for me.> > >> > > I want to declare that my family should never never admit me in> > > the hospital. Specially my husband has no right over my body and> > > any advice from him should not be accepted at all. In short I do> > > not want to be admitted in any hospital by anyone.> > >> > > Before my death I will write what is to be done with my body.> > >> > > sg. Mataji Nirmala Devi> > > Mrs. Nirmala Srivastava> > > 10th. Dec 1998> > >> > > http://www.adishakti.org/images/sm_1998_letter.JPG> > >> > >> >> > Dear Jagbir,> >> > Jai Shri Mataji! We're so glad to have been told about your Shri> > Adishakti website because it has been very difficult and frustrated> > of not being able to express our views in these past two years due> > to the total control of the Sahaj official website and national> > websites around the world by WCASY and their followers.> >> > My husband and I, who have been in Sahaj for more than 20 years,> > truly admire you and your family for having such tremendous courage> > and inner strength to stand up for the Truth and sticking to your> > principles because we also have been subjected to similar fate as> > you have been through in the past 3 years. We also have great> > admiration for those true yogis like Sergei, Guido, Derek, Al> > Ganesh, Henry Ho, the late Dr. Harald Knobel, Avinash and several> > more of my true brothers and sisters, whose characters have been> > tarnished, vilified and defamed publicly around the world in recent> > years by WCASY and their followers. How many times have Shri Mataji> > talked of Love? It is so apparent that after all these years> > they've never felt God's love in their heart and this is why so> > many of them have fallen in the spider's web.> >> > However much they try to attack and discredit me, they can never> > ever ever destroy my spirit, my faith and my love for Shri Mataji> > which are a permanent fixture in my heart! I must say, there have> > been times when the attacks they inflicted upon me was so> > horrendous that it has posed risk to my health and danger to me> > and my family, I thought I would not be able to last any longer.> > My survival through this awful time only comes from the> > protection, guidance and love of Shri Mataji and using clearing> > and cleansing techniques which She has recommended to us on a> > regular basis. She would come into my dreams regularly before,> > during or after an attack either to forewarn, to indicate, to> > soothe, to advice, to love, to correct or to reassure me.> >> > My family and I withdrew from the collective which has nothing to> > do of how we've been treated, but it has to do of how they,> > disgustingly, have been treating our Holy Divine Mother, God> > Almighty, Shri Adi Shakti for the past 3 and a half years. Often I> > would cry my eyes out and feel so ashamed of us as human beings who> > have been giving the greatest blessing of all and look at what> > they've done in the name of God. They violate Her Divine body by> > silen(cing) Her with this anti-psychotic drug, they parade Her> > around without any respect for Her physical well being, they have> > group photos taken with Shri Mataji in order to pamper their ego,> > they totally disregard all protocols which are needed to be> > observed for Shri Adi Shakti, they anointed and pontificated Sir C> > P and claimed publicly that Shri Mataji speaks through him and> > that he is Shiva, they sanctified Kalpina and Sadna by using shri> > before their names, they show photo of Sir C P's feet in the> > official website, they praised Sir C P by chanting "Bolo, shri> > papaji qui jay!" at the last Diwali puja, and finally, the> > ultimate sin committed against Shri Mataji is that they are doing> > their utmost to destroy by politicising, organising and distorting> > the teachings and works of God Almighty!> >> > Shri Mataji has said that She is the Adi Shakti and She is the only> > Incarnation on this earth, are they deaf or what? For all the years> > we've been in Sahaj, of course we've great respect Sir C P and his> > family, we never once regarded them as SYs. The only member of the> > family who is a SY was Shri Mataji's beloved brother, BabaMama. I> > would like to ask if anybody has witnessed any members of the> > family worship, meditate and bow to Shri Mataji at pujas in all> > these years?> >> > I know that those who are now considered as 'outsiders' will> > continue carrying the divine flame of Shri Mataji's and no one on> > this earth, particularly the WCASY and their followers, can stop us> > from spreading the True Message of our Holy Divine Mother. Gregoire> > had mentioned about fear in us, but do they have fear of the wrath> > of God?> >> > Jagbir, we'll keep in touch.> >> > Love,> >> > Xxxxxxx> >> > Sir CP had no right to make public Shri Mataji's medical health and> file> > Dear Xxxxxxx,> > i consider Sir C P's divulging of Shri Mataji's medical health and> history to all SY leaders as one of the greatest misfortune in> Sahaja Yoga history. Such matters were supposed to be strictly> confidential that, in order to be made public, required the express> permission of Shri Mataji due to the highly damaging and explosive> nature of the medical file.> > > WHAT INFORMATION IS SUBJECT TO PROTECTIONS CONCERNING MEDICAL RECORD> CONFIDENTIALITY?> > Any information about you, whether in electronic or physical form,> regarding your medical history, mental or physical condition, or> treatment is subject to California laws protecting your medical> record confidentiality.> > WHAT DOES AN AUTHORIZATION FORM FOR RELEASE OF MY MEDICAL RECORDS> HAVE TO INCLUDE TO BE VALID?> > To be valid, an authorization form used by health care providers,> HMOs and health care contractors must:> > Be handwritten by you (or your authorized representative signing the> authorization form) or be typewritten in no smaller than 8-point> type.> > Be clearly separate from any other language on the same page and> have a line for your signature that serves no purpose other than to> authorize the release of your information.> > Be signed by one of the following:> > -- you, the patient,> -- your legal representative if you are a minor or incompetent,> -- the beneficiary or personal representative of a deceased patient,> -- or your spouse or person financially responsible for you for the> sole purpose of processing an application for health care insurance> or enrollment in a health care service plan or employee benefit plan> when you are to be an enrolled spouse or dependent under the policy> or plan.> -- Specify the uses and limitations on the types of medical> information to be disclosed,> -- Specify the name or functions of the health care provider that> may disclose the information,> -- State the name or functions of the persons or entities authorized> to receive the medical information,> -- State the specific uses and limitations on the use of the medical> information by the persons or entities authorized to receive the> medical information,> -- State a specific date after which the health care provider is no> longer authorized to disclose your medical record information, and> -- State that you have a right to receive a copy of the> authorization.12> > CAN MY DOCTOR OR HMO RELEASE MY MEDICAL RECORDS WITHOUT MY CONSENT?> > Yes, but only in certain limited situations when necessary to> provide you with appropriate health care. Your doctor or HMO is> required to release your medical record information, even without> your written authorization, to the following:> > A court pursuant to a court order.> > A board, commission, or administrative agency for purposes of> resolving a dispute pursuant to its lawful authority.> > A party to a proceeding before a court or administrative agency> pursuant to an investigative subpoena.> > An arbitrator or arbitration panel, when arbitration is lawfully> requested by either party pursuant to a subpoena.> > A government law enforcement agency pursuant to a search warrant> > http://www.calpatientguide.org/iii.html> > > None of the above conditions or reasons were met.> > Yes, some SYs may wonder why am i saying it only now. Well, i was> under the impression that the 10th. Dec 1998 letter of Shri Mataji> was a forgery i.e., She never wrote it. Only lately i realized that> She did in fact write it and Her instructions were crystal clear and> unequivocal.> > If WCASY had sided with Her instead of Sir CP, or at least got Her> express permission first for medical treatment and release of> information, the present crisis would not have come. After all, how> difficult was it for them to ask Shri Mataji on probably Her most> important personal desire? WCASY seems to have all the time and> luxury to ask 1001 mundane questions but not concerning Her express> written order!!!??? How many of you would want your medical file be> made public without your permission? This reeks of a most> frightening negativity and foul play!> > So SYs now think that WCASY's claim that Shri Mataji speaks through> Sir CP is true and that he is Shiva? Let me tell you something to> the contrary.> > Last year a SY ENT expert, Dr. B, was summoned to Genoa, Italy by> Sir CP to treat Shri Mataji's ear as She is hard of hearing. At the> appointed hour Dr. B met Sir CP and Shri Mataji. Dr. B asked Shri> Mataji if She wanted to be treated. There was no reply from Her.> Then Dr. B again asked in a louder voice if he could examine Her.> Again Shri Mataji remained silent.> > It was then when Sir CP told Dr. B to go ahead as She had agreed.> Dr. B was quite shocked by Sir CP's insincerity since Shri Mataji> never gave any verbal hint or physical gesture that She can be> examined. Dr. B then silently asked Her for forgiveness as he was> about to perform an ear examination without Her permission. This> incident is evidence that Shri Mataji does not talk to Sir CP as has> been claimed by WCASY and himself. It is just not true as She has> stopped talking due to the medication administered to Her.> > WCASY's claim that Sir CP is Shiva is just pure fabrication. It was> necessary for WCASY to bestow divinity on him as Sir CP holds the de> facto power in the organization, not Shri Mataji. She is now reduced> to a mere puppet involuntarily holding a rubber stamp that is used> by WCASY to endorse and bless any undertaking - from assassinating> Guido, poisoning Avinash, garroting Perezhogin to suppressing my> websites and demonizing my children. WCASY and their hired hit man> Alan Wherry is rumored to have now set the crosshair on Derek Lee.> Yes, WCASY claims that all such acts have the blessings of Shri> Mataji who 'speaks' through Sir Shiva ................. just ask> Dr. B and you will know how much Shri Mataji's talks to Sir CP, in> public or private.> > But the main question is: "Did Sir CP have Shri Mataji's permission> to make public Her medical health and file"? i have the right to ask> because WCASY and Sir CP are now putting too many words in Her> incapacitated mouth. Their outrageous claim that Sir CP is actually> Shiva is the last straw. Tens of thousands of SYs are either too> blissfully unaware or unfortunately dull to comprehend what is at> stake! It is outsiders like us who have to wake them up.> > Everything will be alright one day – i am sure too that the darkest> hour comes just before dawn. Your Mother Kundalini within is> recording all during the Last Judgment! Don't be fooled by humans> who claim to be Her Will or Shiva. The Devi within has no partners> or spouse. Even Shri Shiva meditates on Her! So do all others - Shri> Ganesha, Jesus, Krishna, Radha, Rama, Sita, Brahma, Saraswati,> Prophet Muhammad, Guru Nanak, Mahavira, Buddha - and all liberated> souls in the Spirit World. So stand your sacred ground and don't> budge an inch. Gladly leave the organization to continue on your own> but don't ever sell your soul to WCASY or Sir Shiva. Your allegiance> and attention at all times must be exclusively, unconditionally and> without any question whatsoever on the Adi Shakti, the Devi within:> > "Now listen attentively about the supreme devotion (parabhakti)> which I will now describe to you. He always hears my glories and> recites my name. His mind always dwells in me, like the incessant> flow of oil, and he is the receptacle of all good qualities and> gunas. But he does not have the least trace of any desire to get the> fruits of his actions (karma). Indeed, he does not want the various> levels of release (moksha), including being on the same plane as God> (salokya), nearness to God (samipya), having the form of God> (sarsti), union with God (sayujya) and other forms of release.> Devi continues noting that true worshipers abandons all concepts of> themselves, completely identify themselves with Devi, and make no> distinctions between themselves and anything else. Worshipers find> Devi in everything, including other souls:> > He becomes filled with devotion for me alone, worships me only,> knows nothing higher than to serve me, and he does not even want> final release. He does not like neglecting the notions of "serving"> (sevya) and the "servant who serves" (sevaka). He always meditates> on me with a constant vigilance, actuated by a feeling of supreme> devotion. He does not think of himself as separate from me, but> rather thinks to himself, "I am the Lord (Bhagavati)." He considers> all souls (jivas) as myself, and loves me as he loves himself. He> makes no distinction between the souls and myself since he finds the> same pure consciousness (caitanya) everywhere and manifested in all.> He does not quarrel with anyone since he has abandoned all ideas of> separateness. He bows down and worships the pure consciousness and> all the souls. He becomes filled with the highest love when he sees> my place, sees my devotees, hears the scriptures, describes my> deeds, and meditates on my mantras. His hairs stand on end out of> love for me and his tears of love flow incessantly from both of his> eyes. He recites my name deeds in a voice that is choked with> feelings of love for me. With intense feeling he worships me as the> mother of this universe and the cause of all causes." [Devi> Bhagavata Purana, 7.37]> > Jai Shri Ganapathy,> > > jagbir> Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Answers. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 Dear all, Indeed, seek her within; that is where she is. Her physical manifestation is not necessary and actually it never was. We needed her physical presence to help us get beyond our egos; so that at the time of our realization we would have a physical something to attribute it to. Otherwise, if we got our realization spontaneously, being the ego oriented beings we are, we would have thought it was us alone who did it. Well, another one of my theories. Shri Mataji's vibrations can be felt for many, many miles. At one of this year's pujas I felt her vibrations long, long before she arrived at the puja hall. I was wondering why they had not started playing Swagata Agata. Thanks for being here to discuss these things. We all know we can't discuss openly among the SY organization. Love, SuzyViolet <violet.tubb wrote: Dear Suzy,In regards to 'strokes'... apparently the most common language disorder following a stroke is aphasia. Here is what it says about 'aphasia' in the Miller-Keane Encyclopedia & Dictionary of Medicine, Nursing & Allied Health (Sixth Edition):aphasia (ah-fa'shah) defect or loss of the power of expression by speech, writing, or signs, or of comprehension of spoken or written language, due to disease or injury of the brain centers, such as after STROKE SYNDROME on the left side.PATIENT CARE. Aphasia is a complex phenomenon manifested in numerous ways. The recovery period typically is very long, sometimes extending to months and years. Because communication is such a vital part of everyday living, loss of the capacity for verbal expression, whether in speaking or writing, can profoundly affect the personality and behaviour of an aphasic patient. Although aphasic persons usually require extensive treatment by specially trained speech therapists, all persons concerned with the care of the patient should practice techniques that will help minimize frustration and improve communication with the aphasic patient.In Potter & Perry's "Fundamentals of Nursing" p.1652-53... it says:Communication... The most common language disorder following a stroke is aphasia. As a result of a disruption in blood flow to the brain, the speech centre becomes damaged, altering a person's ability to either use or understand spoken words. Depending on the type of aphasia, the inability to communicate can be frustrating and frightening.Communication Methods (Clients with Aphasia):Listen to the client and wait for the client to communicate.Do not should or speak loudly (hearing loss is not the problem).If the client has problems with comprehension, use simple, short questions and facial gestures to give additional clues.Speak of things familiar and of interest to the client.If the client has problems speaking, ask questions that require simple yes or no answers or blinking of the eyes. Offer pictures or a communication board so that the client can point.Give the client time to understand; be calm and patient.Do not pressure or tire the client.Avoid patronising and childish phrases.The nurse should initially establish very basic communication and recognise that aphasia does not indicate intellectual impairment or degeneration of personality. The nurse explains situations and treatments that are pertinent to the client, since he or she may understand. Because a stroke often causes partial or complete paralysis of one side of the client's body, an aphasic client may need special asistive devices. There are communication boards that have been developed for several levels of disability. (End Quote)i would not be a bit surprised if Shri Mataji had a partial stroke. When i saw a picture of Her, i showed it to my husband who is a Registered Nurse (Division I). He has worked with people suffering from stroke and is experienced at picking up visual clues. He said to me: "It looks like She has had a partial stroke!" i have to say that when i looked at Her Photo, i actually thought the same, which is why i asked Peter to look at the Photo just to confirm my suspicions.However... 'given the above info'... there is no apparent reason why Shri Mataji should not attempt to communicate... "unless She does not want to." Perhaps what Jagbir is saying... is more true than we "even care to believe".i will repeat what Jagbir has written:"That brings us back to the same question: But why is Shri Mataji silent for so long and continues to bear witness to the official orgies of the copulating parties tightly locked in embrace in their lust for power and self-aggrandizement?But then She promised to spread Sahaja Yoga before attaining Mahasamadhi. i know Her deafening silence has begun raising outsiders who will complete that task, and continue long after She has left. Shri Mataji has steered through the conflicting loyalties and aims of some of her so-called followers who are enemies in disguise. Despite all this, She has found the way to the goal of Her life, viz., universal Self-Realization! There is nothing WCASY or Sir Shiva can do to stop Her now. It does not matter anymore if Sir Shiva does not agree to uphold the truth of www.adishakti.org and www.al-qiyamah.org which Dr. B presented and made clear to him in a lengthy letter that called for his unconditional duty towards Shri Mataji. It is obvious that WCASY and Sir Shiva work hand in glove to suppress Shri Mataji's Divine Message to humanity, and both have made clear their intentions and we have evidence. The Adi Shakti, both within and without, knows that neither WCASY nor Sir CP is interested in propagating Her Incarnation and Message.i know deep in my heart that Shri Mataji did not summoned Dr. B to examine Her ear. In Her silence She has exposed all those who work against Her, specifically her husband Sir Shiva. She also laid bare the boldness and blasphemy humans are capable of, acts they would shuddered of committing when She was in Her element. Perhaps this was to be Her final act to expose the negativity that has overwhelmed the Sahaja Yoga organization. Perhaps all this is a harbinger of the trials and tribulations to be faced by the faithful, concerned and conscientious after She departs.Remember the supreme devotion (parabhakti) She has described? That is your only sanctuary now ............. seek Her within!" (End Quote)What Jagbir says resonates as the truth to me.violet , Suzy Creamcheese <suzyogi wrote:>> Dear Violet,> > Or maybe Shri Mataji's body had a stroke. Makes sense since her left side seemed to be paralysed for some time (Although I saw her use her left hand at the 2006 Shri Krishna Puja).> Also makes sense that no one will admit to it, since if one has a stroke one needs medical attention immediately. Now, if the daughter took the time to call Sir CP and waited for his return before getting medical attention, as was reported some time back, > then it stands to reason that Shri Mataji's left side, speech and cognitive skills could be effected. Certainly the family would not want the knowledge to go out that they dragged their feet getting the proper attention. So, another problem is circulated as truth. Even if she has gotten her speech back, it may not be in the family's and WCASY's best interest to allow lectures as her cognitive skills may be effected.> > Just my theory but from what I've seen and heard the stroke theory may be based on a true hypothosis.> > Suzy> > > Violet <violet.tubb wrote:> Dear All,> > But why is Shri Mataji silent for so long and continues to bear witness? Perhaps the following is why Shri Mataji is silent for so long and continues to bear witness.> > violet> > Sir CP> One thing I want to mention - World Council - is that She (Shri > Mataji) desires for me to convey to you that the World Council is the > highest authority in Sahaja Yoga, representing Her will. > > Shri Mataji> Any advice from him should not be accepted at all.> > Sir C.P.> And this will be, the World Council, will be the final deciding > authority in Sahaja Yoga collectives.> > Shri Mataji> Any advice from him should not be accepted at all.> > Sir C.P.> There should be no doubt about that.> > Shri Mataji> Any advice from him should not be accepted at all.> > Sir C.P.> That is Her will, and on behalf of Her, the World Council will be > acting.> > Shri Mataji> Any advice from him should not be accepted at all.> > Sir C.P.> Is that clear to everyone?> > Shri Mataji> Any advice from him should not be accepted at all.> > Sir C.P.> That is Her will and She asked me to convey this, and I am conveying > it to you.> > Shri Mataji> Any advice from him should not be accepted at all.> > THE "OF COURSE! SCENARIO"> > i did not like the original scenario where Shri Mataji was expected to say "OF COURSE". So... in this scenario... i have Sir C.P. saying it instead:> > Violet> Sir C.P., you must be aware that Shri Mataji wrote a letter in reference to yourself, where She stated that: "Any advice from him should not be accepted at all."> > Sir C.P. > OF COURSE!> > Violet> Sir... i therefore believe you should respect the Desire of Her Devotees to do just as Shri Mataji has requested.> > Sir C.P.> OF COURSE!> > (END OF THE "OF COURSE! SCENARIO"... AND CONTINUATION OF SIR C.P.'S ADVICE TO SAHAJA YOGIS):> > Sir CP> The final authority is the World Council.> > Shri Mataji:> Any advice from him should not be accepted at all.> > Sir CP> Everything else emanates from the World Council.> > Shri Mataji> Any advice from him should not be accepted at all.> > Sir C.P.> Whatever decision is to be taken, the World Council takes, because that is Her will.> > Shri Mataji> Any advice from him should not be accepted at all.> > Sir C.P.> The Council represents Her will.> > Shri Mataji> Any advice from him should not be accepted at all.> > Sir C.P.> Alright?> > Shri Mataji> Any advice from him should not be accepted at all.> > Sir C.P.> So there should be no confusion in future.> > Shri Mataji> Any advice from him should not be accepted at all.> > Sir C.P.> That has been decided.> > Shri Mataji> Any advice from him should not be accepted at all.> > Sir C.P.> Thereafter, what happens where is a matter for the World Council to decide.> > Shri Mataji> Any advice from him should not be accepted at all.> > Sir C.P.> We have now to move forward, carry forward the message and act on that basis.> > Violet> Sir... it is more important to please Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi than 100,000 WCASY members! > > 'Why, after hearing the kind of advice you gave, i am not surprised at all that Shri Mataji said: "Any advice from him should not be accepted at all."> > violet> > http://www.sahajayoga.org/swan/view/swan_512_2006.asp> http://www.adishakti.org/images/sm_1998_letter.JPG> /message/6321?var=1 & l=1> > , > "Violet" <violet.tubb@> wrote:> >> > Dear All,> > > > Shri Mataji hand-wrote a letter, in which She advised Sahaja Yogis > not to listen to "any" advice from her husband. Here is that letter:> > > > To Whomsoever It May Concern:> > > > "I want to state that nobody has any right on my body, without my > permission. I should not be treated by any doctor vidya or any other > person. Specially my husband and my family members should not at all > have any say in my sickness. No one has to admit me in any hospital. > Even Sahaja Yogis can not admit me in the hospital or treat me or > arrange any doctor for treatment for me. I want to declare that my > family should never admit me in the hospital. Specially my husband > has no right over my body AND ANY ADVICE FROM HIM SHOULD NOT BE> ACCEPTED AT ALL. In short, I do not want to be admitted in any > hospital by anyone. Before my death I will write what is to be done > with my body."> > (sg. Mataji Nirmala devi - Mrs. Nirmala Srivastava 10th Dec. 1998)> > http://www.adishakti.org/images/sm_1998_letter.JPG> > > > The letter above looks just like a letter a person would write, if > they want to be sure that they are treated... "or not treated" > according to their own wishes. Shri Mataji seems to be acknowledging > in the above letter that She is already having... or will be having > 'a sickness'. i imagine a letter like that would not be liked by any > husband or family (whoever they are)... yet every individual has > exactly that right... to write such a letter, expressing their > wishes... if they so please.> > > > And... Shri Mataji has such a right too. Just because She also is > the Incarnation of the Adi Shakti, does not mean others have rights > over Her Body or even over Her Will. In fact, She is clearly > asserting in this letter that neither her husband, her family, or > Sahaja Yogis have any rights over her body... without Her express > permission:> > > > "I want to state that nobody has any right on my body, without my > permission."> > > > Therefore... in hindsight... perhaps that Drama in Italy was a > Drama of Dharma to protect our Mother. i am sure i could hear the > rumbling of a Quick Exit all the way from Down Under. i have never > seen nor heard of Shri Mataji ever making such a speedy exit... > especially when Her Children from Italy and other countries, were > just wanting to make sure that Her wish (as per the above letter) was > being upheld. Therefore... it would appear, that the benefit of the > QUICK EXIT was for WCASY and Co, who of course flew at lightning > speed over the Atlantic Ocean into the Sheltering Reprieve of Alan > Wherry Country... "USA". In their happiness at a World First, the > Italians were forgotten. What the Italians and others had to say... > was dismissed. Any leaders involved... were sacked. The media blitz > made the Italians and others "at fault" and made the WCASY look like > the Heroes that Rescued Their Mother". i am sure, according to > them... if the Letter were followed, She would not be given > medications, unless She approved them... and to WCASY et al... their > Worldview appears to be that "no medication for Shri Mataji's > sickness spells bodily danger". i really believe they convinced > themselves that they were rescuing Shri Mataji from the Italians. > That is how it came across anyway.> > > > Here is the letter to "My dear Modi and other Sahaja Yogis" (of > which the original was handwritten by SM)... and please pay special > attention to Shri Mataji's Worldview of Her Body and what it is meant > to undergo for the mission for which it has been taken, and that > therefore She is not bothered. She talks about working under > anaesthesia... folks. This is not a normal lady... lets face it! She > also says that She "never has pains". This is an official letter > which She wanted everyone to see and read, because it gave us Her > Bodily Worldview. (However, as Shri Mataji is 'wont to do'... She > again hides this information very cleverly "right out in the open" to > be discovered... if we "really look".)> > > > Here then is the letter, which She gave to Modi... with the request > to "please circulate this letter among all Sahaja Yogis":> > > > My dear Modi and other Sahaja Yogis,> > > > Many blessings. Received your letter. I am very glad to know that> > your Ida Nadi has become clean and I hope, Ida Nadis of all have> > become clean at least to some extent. Here I had told all that I> > would work, while under anaesthesia, to clean the Ida channels of> > all. I worked for 3 days cleaning it by vomiting nearly 50 times> > every day and it is nice that the cleaning has become possible.> > > > This physical being has to be used for the mission for which it has> > been taken and therefore I am not bothered by the illness and other> > troubles. On the contrary all such and different experiments with> > this incarnation will have to be performed.> > > > Why are you so anxious about it? What else is the use of this body?> > I never have any pains. All I want is that, in the laboratory of> > this body, some work or the other must go on. Time is short while> > the work to be done is very big.> > > > You cannot do the cleaning of Ida channel only on the strength of> > your realisation. I knew that it had to be cleaned from within.> > > > In ancient days all seekers had to do this action (Kriya) constantly> > right from their childhood at the residences of their gurus at> > isolated places. The seekers had to do it individually in many> > lives. Because, now you have attained the state of collectivity I> > have done it in collective consciousness.> > > > Although you say I have done it, the distinction of you and I should> > not be there in collective consciousness. Mantras ''Twam Bhawani,> > Twam Durga, Twam Ambika etc.'' are good for Ida Channel, but when> > you are established in Sahaja Yoga, you will have to say 'Aham> > Bhavani'. However this Mantra can be said only when your purity> > becomes one with that of 'Aham Bhavani' and I tell you now itself> > that this will happen.> > > > After cleaning the Ida Channel I am awakening Pingala Nadi.> > Sahaja Yogis had become rather lethargic due to the conditioning of> > Ida Channel. Laziness and a tendency of avoiding the work was> > dominating in them. Their attention was being frittered away on> > avoiding the work. But I have now started the work of awakening> > Pingala Channel. All of you should raise your right hand from right> > side over your head and leave it on the left side but while doing> > it, you must apply your will power so that your desires will> > materialize.> > > > With the awakening of collectivity, you will have many people to> > share your work which you are doing alone.> > > > The sphere of Sahasrara envelops your heart. When conditioning of> > heart is reduced, as if the glass of a lamp becomes clean, rays of> > ever resplendent Spirit awaken Sahasrara sheath and the light of> > bliss spreads, which is felt in Sahasrara. This light enlightens all> > sides of colourful heart and decorates it with the qualities which> > can be described as pleasing, blissful etc. Gradually this state> > will grow and become stable within you.> > > > Most of the Sahaja Yogis should try this method, but there should> > not be merely the mechanical movement of hands. Whatever you do, it> > should be done with the faith that you have in worshipping, zeal of> > a warrior and sensitivity of an artist. There should be complete> > purity in the recitation of Mantras to awaken the deities and your> > heart must be involved in it. Only then the awakening will take> > place.> > > > You should understand a simple principle. How can a big fire be lit> > with a small match stick? Will a wick hold the flame if water is> > mixed in the oil? How can those Sahaja Yogis have enlightenment who> > are using Sahaja Yoga to solve only their own petty problems? And> > why should God give them the enlightenment? Lighthouses do not show> > light to themselves even for a moment. Therefore, they are> > considered so important and are looked after.> > > > Please circulate this letter among all Sahaja Yogis.> > > > Your Mother - NIRMALA> > > > > > So... please note especially these words:> > > > "Why are you so anxious about it? What else is the use of this > body? I never have any pains. All I want is that, in the laboratory > of this body, some work or the other must go on. Time is short while > the work to be done is very big." (End Quote) (Given what Shri > Mataji says in these amazing words, and given what She says in the > "To Whomsoever It May Concern" letter about not wanting hospitals... > it can be seen that the Spirit in the two letters indicate a 'same > personality' with a similar 'bodily worldview'.> > > > i believe it was not long after that the Big Announcement with the > Infamous Response of "OF COURSE!" was recorded. A dramatic Letter of > Shri Mataji's that the Italians 'surfaced'... obviously demanded an > equally dramatic and unprecedented "OF COURSE" from Shri Mataji. It > was amazing how the two words of "Of Course"... made the world "so > right" for WCASY and Co. However, the question needs to be asked:> > Did those two words of "OF COURSE" also 'make the world right' for > Mother?"> > > > Because i have a few questions:> > > > Why did WCASY not do the right thing and get a Handwriting Expert > on the spot to clear any confusion and authenticate the Letter that > the Italians claim Shri Mataji wrote? Because as administrators of > Sahaja Yoga Organisation, they owe at least 'that much' to Sahaja > Yogis worldwide. That they did not 'do so' (that is get a handwriting > expert) to verify the Letter... implicates WCASY very much... as not > doing the right thing.> > > > Now the job of WCASY as administration, is essentially > communication:> > "Leaders should be very careful. They should become free of all > arrogance. They are only a communication link, like I have to put a > letter in the envelope and post it." (Gudi Padwa - 24 March, 1993)> > (Excerpt Australian Sahaja Newsletter - 10 Feb. 1996)> > > > However, the communication severely broke down on two counts. The > first count was the failure to get a Handwriting Expert to > authenticate the Letter. The second, was to flee the country. Am i > awake or am i dreaming or am i under some illusion? Because not to > get a Handwriting Expert, and to flee the country at breakneck speed. > What does that indicate? (rhetorical question)> > > > So... 'as already given'... Shri Mataji has stated in Her > (regarding her husband) that:> > > > "Any advice from him should not be accepted at all".> > > > That was probably the teensy weensy bit in the letter that WCASY > hated, and decided the better option was to get out of Italy real > fast.> > > > So... what is this advice that Shri Mataji said "should not be > accepted at all"? Here it is:> > > > > > Sir CP:> > "One thing I want to mention - World Council - is that She (Shri > Mataji) desires for me to convey to you that the World Council is the > highest authority in Sahaja Yoga, representing Her will. And this > will be, the World Council, will be the final deciding authority in > Sahaja Yoga collectives. There should be no doubt about that. That is > Her will, and on behalf of Her, the World Council will be acting. Is > that clear to everyone? That is Her will and She asked me to convey > this, and I am conveying it to you."> > > > Sir CP:> > "The final authority is the World Council. Everything else emanates > from the World Council. Whatever decision is to be taken, the World > Council takes, because that is Her will. The Council represents Her > will. Alright? So there should be no confusion in future. That has > been decided. Thereafter, what happens where is a matter for the > World Council to decide. We have now to move forward, carry forward > the message and act on that basis."> > > > (Btw... in between the two paragraphs of Sir C.P.'s was the famous > alleged "OF COURSE" from Shri Mataji.)> > > > Now... lets remember that Shri Mataji advised us not to listen to > any advice that Sir C.P. gave. As Sir C.P. was "giving advice" to > which Shri Mataji 'supposedly agreed'... this is proof that Shri > Mataji did not know what She was saying 'of course' to. If She knew > what She was supposedly saying 'of course' too, She would not have > agreed with it. All you have to do is read Her Letter to know She > would not have agreed with it:> > > > To Whomsoever It May Concern:> > > > "I want to state that nobody has any right on my body, without my > permission. I should not be treated by any doctor vidya or any other > person. Specially my husband and my family members should not at all > have any say in my sickness. No one has to admit me in any hospital. > Even Sahaja Yogis can not admit me in the hospital or treat me or > arrange any doctor for treatment for me. I want to declare that my > family should never admit me in the hospital. Specially my husband > has no right over my body and any advice from him should not be > accepted at all. In short, I do not want to be admitted in any > hospital by anyone. Before my death I will write what is to be done > with my body."> > (sg. Mataji Nirmala devi - Mrs. Nirmala Srivastava 10th Dec. 1998)> > http://www.adishakti.org/images/sm_1998_letter.JPG> > > > Lets also not forget that the astrologers predictions are already > coming true:> > > > "The T-square formations between Moon-Mars, Venus, Jupiter and > Neptune, indicate that some of the plans of Mataji might be hindered > by obstructive activities of evil and negative forces." (End Quote)> > > > (This part of the prediction has already come true. WCASY have > obstructed knowledge of Shri Mataji's Identity, as well as Her > Message of the Last Judgment and Resurrection to the world-at-large. > The astrologer's description of "obstructive activities of evil and > negative forces" sounds 'spot on' too.)> > > > "Also Mataji might have to steer through conflicting loyalties and > aims, of some of her so-called followers who are enemies in disguise."> > (End Quote)> > > > (We have shown how time and again that there are many "so-called-> followers" who are not following Shri Mataji's Leading at all. That > they are enemies in disguise is becoming very apparent. The episode > in Italy, i think, is a prime example. i think this prediction has > also already come true.)> > > > "But despite all this, she will find her way to the goal of her > life, viz., universal Self-Realization!".> > /message/6321> > > > violet> > > > > > , "jagbir> > singh" <adishakti_org@> wrote:> > >> > > >> > > > This incident is evidence that Shri Mataji does not talk to Sir > CP> > > > as has been claimed by WCASY and himself. It is just not true as> > > > She has stopped talking due to the medication administered to > Her.> > > >> > >> > > Shri Mataji used to be a prolific talker who literally spent the> > > last three decades traversing and criss-crossing the globe every> > > year in an effort to enlighten humanity. We all know the > prodigious> > > time and effort spent by Her in talking with fellow human beings,> > > sometimes for hours at end. She promised to spread Sahaja Yoga> > > before attaining Mahasamadhi.> > >> > > Then a minor incident in April 2003 snowballed into what we have> > > today. Shri Mataji, then an octogenarian, had some hallucinations.> > > It ended with Her being given an anti-psychotic drug Risperidone.> > >> > > Since being given medication She has not communicated with any> > > person in any meaningful way over the last three years. i thought> > > the medication was the cause of Her inability to talk. However > today> > > i have realized that is NOT THE CASE! Risperidone does not silence> > > the patient.> > >> > > "Side Effects> > >> > > RISPERDAL® (risperidone) is generally safe and effective for> > > treating the symptoms of schizophrenia.> > >> > > With any medication, some people have side effects and some don't.> > > If you have any side effects with RISPERDAL, or feel you're not> > > getting better, please talk to your doctor.> > >> > > The most common side effects that may occur with RISPERDAL are:> > > anxiety, sleepiness, restlessness, tremors, and muscle stiffness;> > > dizziness, constipation, nausea, indigestion, runny nose, rash, > and> > > rapid heartbeat.> > >> > > Studies suggest an increased risk of elevated blood sugar-related> > > side effects, and sometimes potentially fatal, in patients treated> > > with this class of medications, including RISPERDAL. Some people > may> > > need regular blood sugar testing.> > >> > > Some people taking RISPERDAL may feel faint or lightheaded when > they> > > stand up or sit up too quickly. By standing up or sitting up > slowly> > > and following your doctor's dosing instructions, this side effect> > > may be reduced or it may go away over time.> > >> > > You may have heard the term "extrapyramidal symptoms (EPS)." These> > > are usually reversible movement disorders or muscle disturbances,> > > such as restlessness, tremors, and muscle stiffness. Some people> > > taking RISPERDAL have these side effects. In clinical studies, > these> > > side effects were uncommon at lower doses, but did increase with> > > higher doses. If you have these symptoms, talk to your doctor.> > >> > > You may have heard the term "tardive dyskinesia." These are> > > potentially irreversible, uncontrollable, slow or jerky facial or> > > body movements that can be caused by all medications of this type> > > (antipsychotics). If you have these symptoms, talk to your doctor.> > > Only your doctor should adjust your dose or stop your medication."> > >> > > www.risperdal.com/> > >> > >> > > So why is Shri Mataji so silent for so long? It is as if Shri> > > Mahamaya is playing a game with those who have boldly hijacked Her> > > Will and now raised and praised Sir CP to be the incarnation of > Shri> > > Shiva. Sir Shiva, in return for such a blessing, has empowered > WCASY> > > to act as judge, jury and executioner.> > >> > > Violet has raised a very troubling point that also pricked my> > > conscience:> > >> > > "Here then is the advice given from the person of whom Shri Mataji> > > wrote: "Any advice from him should not be accepted at all."> > > (http://www.adishakti.org/images/sm_1998_letter.JPG) When you read> > > what he advised... i am sure it will become clear why Shri Mataji> > > told us not to listen to him:> > >> > >; Sir CP:> > >> > > "One thing I want to mention - World Council - is that She (Shri> > > Mataji) desires for me to convey to you that the World Council is> > > the highest authority in Sahaja Yoga, representing Her will. And> > > this will be, the World Council, will be the final deciding> > > authority in Sahaja Yoga collectives. There should be no doubt > about> > > that. That is Her will, and on behalf of Her, the World Council > will> > > be acting. Is that clear to everyone? That is Her will and She > asked> > > me to convey this, and I am conveying it to you. The final > authority> > > is the World Council. Everything else emanates from the World> > > Council. Whatever decision is to be taken, the World Council > takes,> > > because that is Her will. The Council represents Her will. > Alright?> > > So there should be no confusion in future. That has been decided.> > > Thereafter, what happens where is a matter for the World Council > to> > > decide. We have now to move forward, carry forward the message and> > > act on that basis."> > >> > > http://www.sahajayoga.org/swan/view/swan_512_2006.asp> > > /message/> > 6321?threaded=1 & l=1> > >> > > "The T-square formations between Moon-Mars, Venus, Jupiter and> > > Neptune, indicate that some of the plans of Mataji might be > hindered> > > by obstructive activities of evil and negative forces. Also Mataji> > > might have to steer through conflicting loyalties and aims, of > some> > > of her so-called followers who are enemies in disguise. But > despite> > > all this, she will find her way to the goal of her life, viz.,> > > universal Self-Realization!".> > >> > > /message/6321> > >> > > That brings us back to the same question: But why is Shri Mataji> > > silent for so long and continues to bear witness to the official> > > orgies of the copulating parties tightly locked in embrace in > their> > > lust for power and self-aggrandizement?> > >> > > But then She promised to spread Sahaja Yoga before attaining> > > Mahasamadhi. i know Her deafening silence has begun raising> > > outsiders who will complete that task, and continue long after She> > > has left. Shri Mataji has steered through the conflicting > loyalties> > > and aims of some of her so-called followers who are enemies in> > > disguise. Despite all this, She has found the way to the goal of > Her> > > life, viz., universal Self-Realization! There is nothing WCASY or> > > Sir Shiva can do to stop Her now. It does not matter anymore if > Sir> > > Shiva does not agree to uphold the truth of www.adishakti.org and> > > www.al-qiyamah.org which Dr. B presented and made clear to him in > a> > > lengthy letter that called for his unconditional duty towards Shri> > > Mataji. It is obvious that WCASY and Sir Shiva work hand in glove > to> > > suppress Shri Mataji's Divine Message to humanity, and both have> > > made clear their intentions and we have evidence. The Adi Shakti,> > > both within and without, knows that neither WCASY nor Sir CP is> > > interested in propagating Her incarnation and Message.> > >> > > i know deep in my heart that Shri Mataji did not summoned Dr. B to> > > examine Her ear. In Her silence She has exposed all those who work> > > against Her, specifically her husband Sir Shiva. She also laid > bare> > > the boldness and blasphemy humans are capable of, acts they would> > > shuddered of committing when She was in Her element. Perhaps this> > > was to be Her final act to expose the negativity that has> > > overwhelmed the Sahaja Yoga organization. Perhaps all this is a> > > harbinger of the trials and tribulations to be faced by the> > > faithful, concerend and conscientious after She departs.> > >> > > Remember the supreme devotion (parabhakti) She has described? That> > > is your only sanctuary now ............. seek Her within!> > >> > > Jagbir> > >> > >> > > Note: John Noyce, please sent a copy of this email to WCASY and > Sir> > Shiva.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > , "jagbir singh"> > > <adishakti_org@> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Xxxxxx,> > > >> > > > Thank you for this 'shocking' mail. i did not know Sir CP is now> > > > regarded as Shiva. Shri Mataji never ever even once hinted that> > her> > > > husband was in any way divine. On the contrary, She did lament> > that> > > > even Her own family (husband and children) do not recognize Her.> > > > How come now when Shri Mataji is old, drugged and incapacitated > we> > > > start hearing of things She never said? i.e., words are put in > Her> > > > mouth because She refuses to say so on Her own.> > > >> > > > So maybe we will have to wait for Sir C P to officially announce> > > > that he is Shiva. Perhaps then WCASY can request SYs to start> > > > meditating on his lotus feet too.> > > >> > > > regards,> > > >> > > > jagbir> > > >> > > >> > > > Note: i just realized that WCASY's Sir Shiva has a serious> > > > credibility problem that will now haunt all of them. It is as if> > > > Shri Mataji knew what was coming and gifted the guilty parties> > with> > > > enough rope to hang all who participated in this terrible> > > > transgression and blasphemy despite Shri Mataji's explicit> > > > instructions: "Specially my husband has no right over my body > and> > > > any advice from him should not be accepted at all".> > > >> > > > Why do i have this feeling that WCASY's Sir Shiva will need a > lot> > > > of smoke and mirrors to pull this off?............. sorry, i> > forgot> > > > wool for SYs. But does Sir C P know he has been elevated to > Shiva> > > > by WCASY, perhaps without his knowledge or consent? WCASY is > more> > > > sinister than we think ............... and time will tell.> > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear All,> > > > >> > > > > i read Shri Mataji's 1998 letter again and compared it with > Her> > > > > previous chakra notes. Even with the brief notes i found that> > > > > letters "a, b, d. h. m, n, r, y" matched in both documents > i.e.,> > > > > there is no need for a handwriting expert. By all means Shri> > > > > Mataji did write the letter below to all SYs and is no > forgery.> > > > > So what did She declare to all SYs?> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > To whomsoever it may concern> > > > >> > > > > I want to state that nobody has any right on my body, without > my> > > > > permission I should not be treated by any doctor vidya or any> > > > > other person.> > > > >> > > > > Specially my husband and my family members should not at all> > have> > > > > any say in my sickness, no one has to admit me in any > hospital.> > > > > Even Sahaja Yogis cannot admit me to the hospital or treat me > or> > > > > arrange any doctor for treatment for me.> > > > >> > > > > I want to declare that my family should never never admit me > in> > > > > the hospital. Specially my husband has no right over my body > and> > > > > any advice from him should not be accepted at all. In short I > do> > > > > not want to be admitted in any hospital by anyone.> > > > >> > > > > Before my death I will write what is to be done with my body.> > > > >> > > > > sg. Mataji Nirmala Devi> > > > > Mrs. Nirmala Srivastava> > > > > 10th. Dec 1998> > > > >> > > > > http://www.adishakti.org/images/sm_1998_letter.JPG> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Jagbir,> > > >> > > > Jai Shri Mataji! We're so glad to have been told about your Shri> > > > Adishakti website because it has been very difficult and> > frustrated> > > > of not being able to express our views in these past two years > due> > > > to the total control of the Sahaj official website and national> > > > websites around the world by WCASY and their followers.> > > >> > > > My husband and I, who have been in Sahaj for more than 20 years,> > > > truly admire you and your family for having such tremendous> > courage> > > > and inner strength to stand up for the Truth and sticking to > your> > > > principles because we also have been subjected to similar fate > as> > > > you have been through in the past 3 years. We also have great> > > > admiration for those true yogis like Sergei, Guido, Derek, Al> > > > Ganesh, Henry Ho, the late Dr. Harald Knobel, Avinash and > several> > > > more of my true brothers and sisters, whose characters have been> > > > tarnished, vilified and defamed publicly around the world in> > recent> > > >; years by WCASY and their followers. How many times have Shri> > Mataji> > > > talked of Love? It is so apparent that after all these years> > > > they've never felt God's love in their heart and this is why so> > > > many of them have fallen in the spider's web.> > > >> > > > However much they try to attack and discredit me, they can never> > > > ever ever destroy my spirit, my faith and my love for Shri > Mataji> > > > which are a permanent fixture in my heart! I must say, there > have> > > > been times when the attacks they inflicted upon me was so> > > > horrendous that it has posed risk to my health and danger to me> > > > and my family, I thought I would not be able to last any longer.> > > > My survival through this awful time only comes from the> > > > protection, guidance and love of Shri Mataji and using clearing> > > > and cleansing techniques which She has recommended to us on a> > > > regular basis. She would come into my dreams regularly before,> > > > during or after an attack either to forewarn, to indicate, to> > > > soothe, to advice, to love, to correct or to reassure me.> > > >> > > > My family and I withdrew from the collective which has nothing > to> > > > do of how we've been treated, but it has to do of how they,> > > > disgustingly, have been treating our Holy Divine Mother, God> > > > Almighty, Shri Adi Shakti for the past 3 and a half years. > Often I> > > > would cry my eyes out and feel so ashamed of us as human beings> > who> > > > have been giving the greatest blessing of all and look at what> > > > they've done in the name of God. They violate Her Divine body by> > > > silen(cing) Her with this anti-psychotic drug, they parade Her> > > > around without any respect for Her physical well being, they > have> > > > group photos taken with Shri Mataji in order to pamper their > ego,> > > > they totally disregard all protocols which are needed to be> > > > observed for Shri Adi Shakti, they anointed and pontificated > Sir C> > > > P and claimed publicly that Shri Mataji speaks through him and> > > > that he is Shiva, they sanctified Kalpina and Sadna by using > shri> > > > before their names, they show photo of Sir C P's feet in the> > > > official website, they praised Sir C P by chanting "Bolo, shri> > > > papaji qui jay!" at the last Diwali puja, and finally, the> > > > ultimate sin committed against Shri Mataji is that they are > doing> > > > their utmost to destroy by politicising, organising and > distorting> > > > the teachings and works of God Almighty!> > > >> > > > Shri Mataji has said that She is the Adi Shakti and She is the> > only> > > > Incarnation on this earth, are they deaf or what? For all the> > years> > > > we've been in Sahaj, of course we've great respect Sir C P and > his> > > > family, we never once regarded them as SYs. The only member of > the> > > > family who is a SY was Shri Mataji's beloved brother, BabaMama. > I> > > > would like to ask if anybody has witnessed any members of the> > > > family worship, meditate and bow to Shri Mataji at pujas in all> > > > these years?> > > >> > > > I know that those who are now considered as 'outsiders' will> > > > continue carrying the divine flame of Shri Mataji's and no one > on> > > > this earth, particularly the WCASY and their followers, can stop> > us> > > > from spreading the True Message of our Holy Divine Mother.> > Gregoire> > > > had mentioned about fear in us, but do they have fear of the > wrath> > > > of God?> > > >> > > > Jagbir, we'll keep in touch.> > > >> > > > Love,> > > >> > > > Xxxxxxx> > > >> > >> > > Sir CP had no right to make public Shri Mataji's medical health > and> > > file> > >> > > Dear Xxxxxxx,> > >> > > i consider Sir C P's divulging of Shri Mataji's medical health and> > > history to all SY leaders as one of the greatest misfortune in> > > Sahaja Yoga history. Such matters were supposed to be strictly> > > confidential that, in order to be made public, required the > express> > > permission of Shri Mataji due to the highly damaging and explosive> > > nature of the medical file.> > >> > >> > > WHAT INFORMATION IS SUBJECT TO PROTECTIONS CONCERNING MEDICAL > RECORD> > > CONFIDENTIALITY?> > >> > > Any information about you, whether in electronic or physical form,> > > regarding your medical history, mental or physical condition, or> > > treatment is subject to California laws protecting your medical> > > record confidentiality.> > >> > > WHAT DOES AN AUTHORIZATION FORM FOR RELEASE OF MY MEDICAL RECORDS> > > HAVE TO INCLUDE TO BE VALID?> > >> > > To be valid, an authorization form used by health care providers,> > > HMOs and health care contractors must:> > >> > > Be handwritten by you (or your authorized representative signing > the> > > authorization form) or be typewritten in no smaller than 8-point> > > type.> > >> > > Be clearly separate from any other language on the same page and> > > have a line for your signature that serves no purpose other than > to> > > authorize the release of your information.> > >> > > Be signed by one of the following:> > >> > > -- you, the patient,> > > -- your legal representative if you are a minor or incompetent,> > > -- the beneficiary or personal representative of a deceased > patient,> > > -- or your spouse or person financially responsible for you for > the> > > sole purpose of processing an application for health care > insurance> > > or enrollment in a health care service plan or employee benefit > plan> > > when you are to be an enrolled spouse or dependent under the > policy> > > or plan.> > > -- Specify the uses and limitations on the types of medical> > > information to be disclosed,> > >; -- Specify the name or functions of the health care provider that> > > may disclose the information,> > > -- State the name or functions of the persons or entities > authorized> > > to receive the medical information,> > > -- State the specific uses and limitations on the use of the > medical> > > information by the persons or entities authorized to receive the> > > medical information,> > > -- State a specific date after which the health care provider is > no> > > longer authorized to disclose your medical record information, and> > > -- State that you have a right to receive a copy of the> > > authorization.12> > >> > > CAN MY DOCTOR OR HMO RELEASE MY MEDICAL RECORDS WITHOUT MY > CONSENT?> > >> > > Yes, but only in certain limited situations when necessary to> > > provide you with appropriate health care. Your doctor or HMO is> > > required to release your medical record information, even without> > >; your written authorization, to the following:> > >> > > A court pursuant to a court order.> > >> > > A board, commission, or administrative agency for purposes of> > > resolving a dispute pursuant to its lawful authority.> > >> > > A party to a proceeding before a court or administrative agency> > > pursuant to an investigative subpoena.> > >> > > An arbitrator or arbitration panel, when arbitration is lawfully> > > requested by either party pursuant to a subpoena.> > >> > > A government law enforcement agency pursuant to a search warrant> > >> > > http://www.calpatientguide.org/iii.html> > >> > >> > > None of the above conditions or reasons were met.> > >> > > Yes, some SYs may wonder why am i saying it only now. Well, i was> > > under the impression that the 10th. Dec 1998 letter of Shri Mataji> > > was a forgery i.e., She never wrote it. Only lately i realized > that> > > She did in fact write it and Her instructions were crystal clear > and> > > unequivocal.> > >> > > If WCASY had sided with Her instead of Sir CP, or at least got Her> > > express permission first for medical treatment and release of> > > information, the present crisis would not have come. After all, > how> > > difficult was it for them to ask Shri Mataji on probably Her most> > > important personal desire? WCASY seems to have all the time and> > > luxury to ask 1001 mundane questions but not concerning Her > express> > > written order!!!??? How many of you would want your medical file > be> > > made public without your permission? This reeks of a most> > > frightening negativity and foul play!> > >> > > So SYs now think that WCASY's claim that Shri Mataji speaks > through> > > Sir CP is true and that he is Shiva? Let me tell you something to> > > the contrary.> > >> > > Last year a SY ENT expert, Dr. B, was summoned to Genoa, Italy by> > > Sir CP to treat Shri Mataji's ear as She is hard of hearing. At > the> > > appointed hour Dr. B met Sir CP and Shri Mataji. Dr. B asked Shri> > > Mataji if She wanted to be treated. There was no reply from Her.> > > Then Dr. B again asked in a louder voice if he could examine Her.> > > Again Shri Mataji remained silent.> > >> > > It was then when Sir CP told Dr. B to go ahead as She had agreed.> > > Dr. B was quite shocked by Sir CP's insincerity since Shri Mataji> > > never gave any verbal hint or physical gesture that She can be> > > examined. Dr. B then silently asked Her for forgiveness as he was> > > about to perform an ear examination without Her permission. This> > > incident is evidence that Shri Mataji does not talk to Sir CP as > has> > > been claimed by WCASY and himself. It is just not true as She has> > > stopped talking due to the medication administered to Her.> > >> > > WCASY's claim that Sir CP is Shiva is just pure fabrication. It > was> > > necessary for WCASY to bestow divinity on him as Sir CP holds the > de> > > facto power in the organization, not Shri Mataji. She is now > reduced> > > to a mere puppet involuntarily holding a rubber stamp that is used> > > by WCASY to endorse and bless any undertaking - from assassinating> > > Guido, poisoning Avinash, garroting Perezhogin to suppressing my> > > websites and demonizing my children. WCASY and their hired hit man> > > Alan Wherry is rumored to have now set the crosshair on Derek Lee.> > > Yes, WCASY claims that all such acts have the blessings of Shri> > > Mataji who 'speaks' through Sir Shiva ................. just ask> > > Dr. B and you will know how much Shri Mataji's talks to Sir CP, in> > > public or private.> > >> > > But the main question is: "Did Sir CP have Shri Mataji's > permission> > > to make public Her medical health and file"? i have the right to > ask> > > because WCASY and Sir CP are now putting too many words in Her> > > incapacitated mouth. Their outrageous claim that Sir CP is > actually> > > Shiva is the last straw. Tens of thousands of SYs are either too> > > blissfully unaware or unfortunately dull to comprehend what is at> > > stake! It is outsiders like us who have to wake them up.> > >> > > Everything will be alright one day – i am sure too that the > darkest> > > hour comes just before dawn. Your Mother Kundalini within is> > > recording all during the Last Judgment! Don't be fooled by humans> > > who claim to be Her Will or Shiva. The Devi within has no partners> > > or spouse. Even Shri Shiva meditates on Her! So do all others - > Shri> > > Ganesha, Jesus, Krishna, Radha, Rama, Sita, Brahma, Saraswati,> > > Prophet Muhammad, Guru Nanak, Mahavira, Buddha - and all liberated> > > souls in the Spirit World. So stand your sacred ground and don't> > > budge an inch. Gladly leave the organization to continue on your > own> > > but don't ever sell your soul to WCASY or Sir Shiva. Your > allegiance> > > and attention at all times must be exclusively, unconditionally > and> > > without any question whatsoever on the Adi Shakti, the Devi > within:> > >> > > "Now listen attentively about the supreme devotion (parabhakti)> > > which I will now describe to you. He always hears my glories and> > > recites my name. His mind always dwells in me, like the incessant> > > flow of oil, and he is the receptacle of all good qualities and> > > gunas. But he does not have the least trace of any desire to get > the> > > fruits of his actions (karma). Indeed, he does not want the > various> > > levels of release (moksha), including being on the same plane as > God> > > (salokya), nearness to God (samipya), having the form of God> > > (sarsti), union with God (sayujya) and other forms of release.> > > Devi continues noting that true worshipers abandons all concepts > of> > > themselves, completely identify themselves with Devi, and make no> > > distinctions between themselves and anything else. Worshipers find> > > Devi in everything, including other souls:> > >> > > He becomes filled with devotion for me alone, worships me only,> > > knows nothing higher than to serve me, and he does not even want> > > final release. He does not like neglecting the notions of > "serving"> > > (sevya) and the "servant who serves" (sevaka). He always meditates> > > on me with a constant vigilance, actuated by a feeling of supreme> > > devotion. He does not think of himself as separate from me, but> > > rather thinks to himself, "I am the Lord (Bhagavati)." He > considers> > > all souls (jivas) as myself, and loves me as he loves himself. He> > > makes no distinction between the souls and myself since he finds > the> > > same pure consciousness (caitanya) everywhere and manifested in > all.> > > He does not quarrel with anyone since he has abandoned all ideas > of> > > separateness. He bows down and worships the pure consciousness and> > > all the souls. He becomes filled with the highest love when he > sees> > > my place, sees my devotees, hears the scriptures, describes my> > > deeds, and meditates on my mantras. His hairs stand on end out of> > > love for me and his tears of love flow incessantly from both of > his> > > eyes. He recites my name deeds in a voice that is choked with> > > feelings of love for me. With intense feeling he worships me as > the> > > mother of this universe and the cause of all causes." [Devi> > > Bhagavata Purana, 7.37]> > >> > > Jai Shri Ganapathy,> > >> > >> > > jagbir> > >> >> > > > > > > > Check out the all-new Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster.> Cheap Talk? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 Dear Suzy, i am not sure who it was. Someone else might be able to confirm that. However... rumour has it... that it was Guido, and i believe it was in Italy where this Letter was revealed, which was why WCASY & Co. with Shri Mataji 'in tow'.... fled to the Shelter of Alan Wherry's United States of Americo. Thereafter... Italy as a 'Country Collective' appeared to be 'cut off' because of disobedience to the Hijackers of Her Will. According to the report given by xxxxxxxxxx any leadership heads who had 'been party to upholding Shri Mataji's Will (as per the revealed letter)... well, their characters in xxxxxxxxx's words were " tarnished, vilified and defamed publicly around the world in recent years by WCASY and their followers " : /message/7005?unwrap=1 & var=1 & \ l=1 The evidence therefore seems to be mounting that the besmirching of the reputations of leaders loyal to Shri Mataji's Will... is directly related to the upholding of Her Will, and not due to any personal immorality. Surely, all these leaders did not become immoral all of a sudden!!! While " OF COURSE! " ... those who claim to have usurped Her Will actually directly or indirectly 'dealt in one way or the other' with those loyal to Her Wishes and Will. It is just a continuing drama that has not finished as yet, but She will expose and destroy all that is not Truth, for this is the Last Judgment and Resurrection Time. Their previous ploys that succeeded in their previous incarnations as the priestly castes and priestly-following-scribes... will not succeed this Time around. But they are so spiritually blind and deaf and dumb... that they cannot see this. violet , Suzy Creamcheese <suzyogi wrote: > > Dear Violet, > > She obviously wrote a letter, and gave it to a trusted Sahaja Yogi. Who was this trusted Yogi? Guido? I remain suspect of the letters that surfaced on the internet, including the one reportedly from Sir CP. > > thanks, > Suzy > > > Violet <violet.tubb wrote: > Dear Jagbir, > > My husband who is an R.N. tells me that risperidone/respiridol... apart from being used for treatment of psychosis... can also be used for behavioural management, but this has nothing to do with the stroke itself. A stroke, however often results in agitation and confusion... and in some instances respiridol may be given for behavioural management. It is often used in dementia too... for behavioural management. Peter says that hallucinations are not common with strokes, but they can happen. However, he says that if they do happen... they are very short-term. > > Whatever the case may be, the fact is that Shri Mataji " did " take the respiridol/respiridone... whether She took it knowingly or unknowingly, willingly, or unwillingly. > > However... i pose the question that: > > Why did Shri Mataji not just say " NO " and push the risperidol away... if She did not want the medication? > > i asked Peter that question, and he said that if She has either stroke, dementia, or psychosis.... then Her cognitive ability is impaired... and She will do as She is told. > > So... i can only surmise that She did not push away the medication and say " No " ! because of impaired cognitive functioning. In other words... She complied, because as Peter explained it to me... 'a person with stroke, dementia, or psychosis... will do what they are told. > > Shri Mataji must have known what was happening to Her physical body. She obviously wrote a letter, and gave it to a trusted Sahaja Yogi. That She did not give this letter to WCASY... or to her husband nor family... speaks volumes. They were obviously left 'out of the loop'. They were obviously not trusted. You just have to read Her Letter, to understand the same: > > To whomsoever it may concern > > I want to state that nobody has any right on my body, without my permission I should not be treated by any doctor vidya or any other person. > > Specially my husband and my family members should not at all have any say in my sickness, no one has to admit me in any hospital. Even Sahaja Yogis cannot admit me to the hospital or treat me or arrange any doctor for treatment for me. > > I want to declare that my family should never never admit me in the hospital. Specially my husband has no right over my body and any advice from him should not be accepted at all. In short I do not want to be admitted in any hospital by anyone. > > Before my death I will write what is to be done with my body. > > sg. Mataji Nirmala Devi > Mrs. Nirmala Srivastava > 10th. Dec 1998 > > But... if because of impaired cognitive functioning, Shri Mataji will comply to whatever is put before Her... where does that leave the " Highjackers of Her Will " . As the Incarnation of the Adi Shakti... i am sure Shri Mataji has foreknowledge of Her Own Life, and prepared for all contingencies regarding Her 'sickness'... and that is why She wrote the letter... a letter that tells more than any WCASY or Sir C.P. would want the world-at-large to know. > > So... She is still working everything out in Her Own Way! She is miles ahead of everyone... and 'all the while'... that 'rope of liberty' that Shri Mataji gave to SY Leaders... and which they have abused... they are slowly but surely 'hanging themselves' with it. > > violet > > , " jagbir > singh " <adishakti_org@> wrote: > > > > > > > > This incident is evidence that Shri Mataji does not talk to Sir CP > > > as has been claimed by WCASY and himself. It is just not true as > > > She has stopped talking due to the medication administered to Her. > > > > > > > Shri Mataji used to be a prolific talker who literally spent the > > last three decades traversing and criss-crossing the globe every > > year in an effort to enlighten humanity. We all know the prodigious > > time and effort spent by Her in talking with fellow human beings, > > sometimes for hours at end. She promised to spread Sahaja Yoga > > before attaining Mahasamadhi. > > > > Then a minor incident in April 2003 snowballed into what we have > > today. Shri Mataji, then an octogenarian, had some hallucinations. > > It ended with Her being given an anti-psychotic drug Risperidone. > > > > Since being given medication She has not communicated with any > > person in any meaningful way over the last three years. i thought > > the medication was the cause of Her inability to talk. However today > > i have realized that is NOT THE CASE! Risperidone does not silence > > the patient. > > > > " Side Effects > > > > RISPERDAL® (risperidone) is generally safe and effective for > > treating the symptoms of schizophrenia. > > > > With any medication, some people have side effects and some don't. > > If you have any side effects with RISPERDAL, or feel you're not > > getting better, please talk to your doctor. > > > > The most common side effects that may occur with RISPERDAL are: > > anxiety, sleepiness, restlessness, tremors, and muscle stiffness; > > dizziness, constipation, nausea, indigestion, runny nose, rash, and > > rapid heartbeat. > > > > Studies suggest an increased risk of elevated blood sugar-related > > side effects, and sometimes potentially fatal, in patients treated > > with this class of medications, including RISPERDAL. Some people may > > need regular blood sugar testing. > > > > Some people taking RISPERDAL may feel faint or lightheaded when they > > stand up or sit up too quickly. By standing up or sitting up slowly > > and following your doctor's dosing instructions, this side effect > > may be reduced or it may go away over time. > > > > You may have heard the term " extrapyramidal symptoms (EPS). " These > > are usually reversible movement disorders or muscle disturbances, > > such as restlessness, tremors, and muscle stiffness. Some people > > taking RISPERDAL have these side effects. In clinical studies, these > > side effects were uncommon at lower doses, but did increase with > > higher doses. If you have these symptoms, talk to your doctor. > > > > You may have heard the term " tardive dyskinesia. " These are > > potentially irreversible, uncontrollable, slow or jerky facial or > > body movements that can be caused by all medications of this type > > (antipsychotics). If you have these symptoms, talk to your doctor. > > Only your doctor should adjust your dose or stop your medication. " > > > > www.risperdal.com/ > > > > > > So why is Shri Mataji so silent for so long? It is as if Shri > > Mahamaya is playing a game with those who have boldly hijacked Her > > Will and now raised and praised Sir CP to be the incarnation of Shri > > Shiva. Sir Shiva, in return for such a blessing, has empowered WCASY > > to act as judge, jury and executioner. > > > > Violet has raised a very troubling point that also pricked my > > conscience: > > > > " Here then is the advice given from the person of whom Shri Mataji > > wrote: " Any advice from him should not be accepted at all. " > > (http://www.adishakti.org/images/sm_1998_letter.JPG) When you read > > what he advised... i am sure it will become clear why Shri Mataji > > told us not to listen to him: > > > > Sir CP: > > > > " One thing I want to mention - World Council - is that She (Shri > > Mataji) desires for me to convey to you that the World Council is > > the highest authority in Sahaja Yoga, representing Her will. And > > this will be, the World Council, will be the final deciding > > authority in Sahaja Yoga collectives. There should be no doubt about > > that. That is Her will, and on behalf of Her, the World Council will > > be acting. Is that clear to everyone? That is Her will and She asked > > me to convey this, and I am conveying it to you. The final authority > > is the World Council. Everything else emanates from the World > > Council. Whatever decision is to be taken, the World Council takes, > > because that is Her will. The Council represents Her will. Alright? > > So there should be no confusion in future. That has been decided. > > Thereafter, what happens where is a matter for the World Council to > > decide. We have now to move forward, carry forward the message and > > act on that basis. " > > > > http://www.sahajayoga.org/swan/view/swan_512_2006.asp > > /message/ > 6321?threaded=1 & l=1 > > > > " The T-square formations between Moon-Mars, Venus, Jupiter and > > Neptune, indicate that some of the plans of Mataji might be hindered > > by obstructive activities of evil and negative forces. Also Mataji > > might have to steer through conflicting loyalties and aims, of some > > of her so-called followers who are enemies in disguise. But despite > > all this, she will find her way to the goal of her life, viz., > > universal Self-Realization! " . > > > > /message/6321 > > > > That brings us back to the same question: But why is Shri Mataji > > silent for so long and continues to bear witness to the official > > orgies of the copulating parties tightly locked in embrace in their > > lust for power and self-aggrandizement? > > > > But then She promised to spread Sahaja Yoga before attaining > > Mahasamadhi. i know Her deafening silence has begun raising > > outsiders who will complete that task, and continue long after She > > has left. Shri Mataji has steered through the conflicting loyalties > > and aims of some of her so-called followers who are enemies in > > disguise. Despite all this, She has found the way to the goal of Her > > life, viz., universal Self-Realization! There is nothing WCASY or > > Sir Shiva can do to stop Her now. It does not matter anymore if Sir > > Shiva does not agree to uphold the truth of www.adishakti.org and > > www.al-qiyamah.org which Dr. B presented and made clear to him in a > > lengthy letter that called for his unconditional duty towards Shri > > Mataji. It is obvious that WCASY and Sir Shiva work hand in glove to > > suppress Shri Mataji's Divine Message to humanity, and both have > > made clear their intentions and we have evidence. The Adi Shakti, > > both within and without, knows that neither WCASY nor Sir CP is > > interested in propagating Her incarnation and Message. > > > > i know deep in my heart that Shri Mataji did not summoned Dr. B to > > examine Her ear. In Her silence She has exposed all those who work > > against Her, specifically her husband Sir Shiva. She also laid bare > > the boldness and blasphemy humans are capable of, acts they would > > shuddered of committing when She was in Her element. Perhaps this > > was to be Her final act to expose the negativity that has > > overwhelmed the Sahaja Yoga organization. Perhaps all this is a > > harbinger of the trials and tribulations to be faced by the > > faithful, concerend and conscientious after She departs. > > > > Remember the supreme devotion (parabhakti) She has described? That > > is your only sanctuary now ............. seek Her within! > > > > Jagbir > > > > > > Note: John Noyce, please sent a copy of this email to WCASY and Sir > Shiva. > > > > > > > > > > , " jagbir singh " > > <adishakti_org@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Xxxxxx, > > > > > > Thank you for this 'shocking' mail. i did not know Sir CP is now > > > regarded as Shiva. Shri Mataji never ever even once hinted that > her > > > husband was in any way divine. On the contrary, She did lament > that > > > even Her own family (husband and children) do not recognize Her. > > > How come now when Shri Mataji is old, drugged and incapacitated we > > > start hearing of things She never said? i.e., words are put in Her > > > mouth because She refuses to say so on Her own. > > > > > > So maybe we will have to wait for Sir C P to officially announce > > > that he is Shiva. Perhaps then WCASY can request SYs to start > > > meditating on his lotus feet too. > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > jagbir > > > > > > > > > Note: i just realized that WCASY's Sir Shiva has a serious > > > credibility problem that will now haunt all of them. It is as if > > > Shri Mataji knew what was coming and gifted the guilty parties > with > > > enough rope to hang all who participated in this terrible > > > transgression and blasphemy despite Shri Mataji's explicit > > > instructions: " Specially my husband has no right over my body and > > > any advice from him should not be accepted at all " . > > > > > > Why do i have this feeling that WCASY's Sir Shiva will need a lot > > > of smoke and mirrors to pull this off?............. sorry, i > forgot > > > wool for SYs. But does Sir C P know he has been elevated to Shiva > > > by WCASY, perhaps without his knowledge or consent? WCASY is more > > > sinister than we think ............... and time will tell. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > i read Shri Mataji's 1998 letter again and compared it with Her > > > > previous chakra notes. Even with the brief notes i found that > > > > letters " a, b, d. h. m, n, r, y " matched in both documents i.e., > > > > there is no need for a handwriting expert. By all means Shri > > > > Mataji did write the letter below to all SYs and is no forgery. > > > > So what did She declare to all SYs? > > > > > > > > > > > > To whomsoever it may concern > > > > > > > > I want to state that nobody has any right on my body, without my > > > > permission I should not be treated by any doctor vidya or any > > > > other person. > > > > > > > > Specially my husband and my family members should not at all > have > > > > any say in my sickness, no one has to admit me in any hospital. > > > > Even Sahaja Yogis cannot admit me to the hospital or treat me or > > > > arrange any doctor for treatment for me. > > > > > > > > I want to declare that my family should never never admit me in > > > > the hospital. Specially my husband has no right over my body and > > > > any advice from him should not be accepted at all. In short I do > > > > not want to be admitted in any hospital by anyone. > > > > > > > > Before my death I will write what is to be done with my body. > > > > > > > > sg. Mataji Nirmala Devi > > > > Mrs. Nirmala Srivastava > > > > 10th. Dec 1998 > > > > > > > > http://www.adishakti.org/images/sm_1998_letter.JPG > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Jagbir, > > > > > > Jai Shri Mataji! We're so glad to have been told about your Shri > > > Adishakti website because it has been very difficult and > frustrated > > > of not being able to express our views in these past two years due > > > to the total control of the Sahaj official website and national > > > websites around the world by WCASY and their followers. > > > > > > My husband and I, who have been in Sahaj for more than 20 years, > > > truly admire you and your family for having such tremendous > courage > > > and inner strength to stand up for the Truth and sticking to your > > > principles because we also have been subjected to similar fate as > > > you have been through in the past 3 years. We also have great > > > admiration for those true yogis like Sergei, Guido, Derek, Al > > > Ganesh, Henry Ho, the late Dr. Harald Knobel, Avinash and several > > > more of my true brothers and sisters, whose characters have been > > > tarnished, vilified and defamed publicly around the world in > recent > > > years by WCASY and their followers. How many times have Shri > Mataji > > > talked of Love? It is so apparent that after all these years > > > they've never felt God's love in their heart and this is why so > > > many of them have fallen in the spider's web. > > > > > > However much they try to attack and discredit me, they can never > > > ever ever destroy my spirit, my faith and my love for Shri Mataji > > > which are a permanent fixture in my heart! I must say, there have > > > been times when the attacks they inflicted upon me was so > > > horrendous that it has posed risk to my health and danger to me > > > and my family, I thought I would not be able to last any longer. > > > My survival through this awful time only comes from the > > > protection, guidance and love of Shri Mataji and using clearing > > > and cleansing techniques which She has recommended to us on a > > > regular basis. She would come into my dreams regularly before, > > > during or after an attack either to forewarn, to indicate, to > > > soothe, to advice, to love, to correct or to reassure me. > > > > > > My family and I withdrew from the collective which has nothing to > > > do of how we've been treated, but it has to do of how they, > > > disgustingly, have been treating our Holy Divine Mother, God > > > Almighty, Shri Adi Shakti for the past 3 and a half years. Often I > > > would cry my eyes out and feel so ashamed of us as human beings > who > > > have been giving the greatest blessing of all and look at what > > > they've done in the name of God. They violate Her Divine body by > > > silen(cing) Her with this anti-psychotic drug, they parade Her > > > around without any respect for Her physical well being, they have > > > group photos taken with Shri Mataji in order to pamper their ego, > > > they totally disregard all protocols which are needed to be > > > observed for Shri Adi Shakti, they anointed and pontificated Sir C > > > P and claimed publicly that Shri Mataji speaks through him and > > > that he is Shiva, they sanctified Kalpina and Sadna by using shri > > > before their names, they show photo of Sir C P's feet in the > > > official website, they praised Sir C P by chanting " Bolo, shri > > > papaji qui jay! " at the last Diwali puja, and finally, the > > > ultimate sin committed against Shri Mataji is that they are doing > > > their utmost to destroy by politicising, organising and distorting > > > the teachings and works of God Almighty! > > > > > > Shri Mataji has said that She is the Adi Shakti and She is the > only > > > Incarnation on this earth, are they deaf or what? For all the > years > > > we've been in Sahaj, of course we've great respect Sir C P and his > > > family, we never once regarded them as SYs. The only member of the > > > family who is a SY was Shri Mataji's beloved brother, BabaMama. I > > > would like to ask if anybody has witnessed any members of the > > > family worship, meditate and bow to Shri Mataji at pujas in all > > > these years? > > > > > > I know that those who are now considered as 'outsiders' will > > > continue carrying the divine flame of Shri Mataji's and no one on > > > this earth, particularly the WCASY and their followers, can stop > us > > > from spreading the True Message of our Holy Divine Mother. > Gregoire > > > had mentioned about fear in us, but do they have fear of the wrath > > > of God? > > > > > > Jagbir, we'll keep in touch. > > > > > > Love, > > > > > > Xxxxxxx > > > > > > > Sir CP had no right to make public Shri Mataji's medical health and > > file > > > > Dear Xxxxxxx, > > > > i consider Sir C P's divulging of Shri Mataji's medical health and > > history to all SY leaders as one of the greatest misfortune in > > Sahaja Yoga history. Such matters were supposed to be strictly > > confidential that, in order to be made public, required the express > > permission of Shri Mataji due to the highly damaging and explosive > > nature of the medical file. > > > > > > WHAT INFORMATION IS SUBJECT TO PROTECTIONS CONCERNING MEDICAL RECORD > > CONFIDENTIALITY? > > > > Any information about you, whether in electronic or physical form, > > regarding your medical history, mental or physical condition, or > > treatment is subject to California laws protecting your medical > > record confidentiality. > > > > WHAT DOES AN AUTHORIZATION FORM FOR RELEASE OF MY MEDICAL RECORDS > > HAVE TO INCLUDE TO BE VALID? > > > > To be valid, an authorization form used by health care providers, > > HMOs and health care contractors must: > > > > Be handwritten by you (or your authorized representative signing the > > authorization form) or be typewritten in no smaller than 8-point > > type. > > > > Be clearly separate from any other language on the same page and > > have a line for your signature that serves no purpose other than to > > authorize the release of your information. > > > > Be signed by one of the following: > > > > -- you, the patient, > > -- your legal representative if you are a minor or incompetent, > > -- the beneficiary or personal representative of a deceased patient, > > -- or your spouse or person financially responsible for you for the > > sole purpose of processing an application for health care insurance > > or enrollment in a health care service plan or employee benefit plan > > when you are to be an enrolled spouse or dependent under the policy > > or plan. > > -- Specify the uses and limitations on the types of medical > > information to be disclosed, > > -- Specify the name or functions of the health care provider that > > may disclose the information, > > -- State the name or functions of the persons or entities authorized > > to receive the medical information, > > -- State the specific uses and limitations on the use of the medical > > information by the persons or entities authorized to receive the > > medical information, > > -- State a specific date after which the health care provider is no > > longer authorized to disclose your medical record information, and > > -- State that you have a right to receive a copy of the > > authorization.12 > > > > CAN MY DOCTOR OR HMO RELEASE MY MEDICAL RECORDS WITHOUT MY CONSENT? > > > > Yes, but only in certain limited situations when necessary to > > provide you with appropriate health care. Your doctor or HMO is > > required to release your medical record information, even without > > your written authorization, to the following: > > > > A court pursuant to a court order. > > > > A board, commission, or administrative agency for purposes of > > resolving a dispute pursuant to its lawful authority. > > > > A party to a proceeding before a court or administrative agency > > pursuant to an investigative subpoena. > > > > An arbitrator or arbitration panel, when arbitration is lawfully > > requested by either party pursuant to a subpoena. > > > > A government law enforcement agency pursuant to a search warrant > > > > http://www.calpatientguide.org/iii.html > > > > > > None of the above conditions or reasons were met. > > > > Yes, some SYs may wonder why am i saying it only now. Well, i was > > under the impression that the 10th. Dec 1998 letter of Shri Mataji > > was a forgery i.e., She never wrote it. Only lately i realized that > > She did in fact write it and Her instructions were crystal clear and > > unequivocal. > > > > If WCASY had sided with Her instead of Sir CP, or at least got Her > > express permission first for medical treatment and release of > > information, the present crisis would not have come. After all, how > > difficult was it for them to ask Shri Mataji on probably Her most > > important personal desire? WCASY seems to have all the time and > > luxury to ask 1001 mundane questions but not concerning Her express > > written order!!!??? How many of you would want your medical file be > > made public without your permission? This reeks of a most > > frightening negativity and foul play! > > > > So SYs now think that WCASY's claim that Shri Mataji speaks through > > Sir CP is true and that he is Shiva? Let me tell you something to > > the contrary. > > > > Last year a SY ENT expert, Dr. B, was summoned to Genoa, Italy by > > Sir CP to treat Shri Mataji's ear as She is hard of hearing. At the > > appointed hour Dr. B met Sir CP and Shri Mataji. Dr. B asked Shri > > Mataji if She wanted to be treated. There was no reply from Her. > > Then Dr. B again asked in a louder voice if he could examine Her. > > Again Shri Mataji remained silent. > > > > It was then when Sir CP told Dr. B to go ahead as She had agreed. > > Dr. B was quite shocked by Sir CP's insincerity since Shri Mataji > > never gave any verbal hint or physical gesture that She can be > > examined. Dr. B then silently asked Her for forgiveness as he was > > about to perform an ear examination without Her permission. This > > incident is evidence that Shri Mataji does not talk to Sir CP as has > > been claimed by WCASY and himself. It is just not true as She has > > stopped talking due to the medication administered to Her. > > > > WCASY's claim that Sir CP is Shiva is just pure fabrication. It was > > necessary for WCASY to bestow divinity on him as Sir CP holds the de > > facto power in the organization, not Shri Mataji. She is now reduced > > to a mere puppet involuntarily holding a rubber stamp that is used > > by WCASY to endorse and bless any undertaking - from assassinating > > Guido, poisoning Avinash, garroting Perezhogin to suppressing my > > websites and demonizing my children. WCASY and their hired hit man > > Alan Wherry is rumored to have now set the crosshair on Derek Lee. > > Yes, WCASY claims that all such acts have the blessings of Shri > > Mataji who 'speaks' through Sir Shiva ................. just ask > > Dr. B and you will know how much Shri Mataji's talks to Sir CP, in > > public or private. > > > > But the main question is: " Did Sir CP have Shri Mataji's permission > > to make public Her medical health and file " ? i have the right to ask > > because WCASY and Sir CP are now putting too many words in Her > > incapacitated mouth. Their outrageous claim that Sir CP is actually > > Shiva is the last straw. Tens of thousands of SYs are either too > > blissfully unaware or unfortunately dull to comprehend what is at > > stake! It is outsiders like us who have to wake them up. > > > > Everything will be alright one day – i am sure too that the darkest > > hour comes just before dawn. Your Mother Kundalini within is > > recording all during the Last Judgment! Don't be fooled by humans > > who claim to be Her Will or Shiva. The Devi within has no partners > > or spouse. Even Shri Shiva meditates on Her! So do all others - Shri > > Ganesha, Jesus, Krishna, Radha, Rama, Sita, Brahma, Saraswati, > > Prophet Muhammad, Guru Nanak, Mahavira, Buddha - and all liberated > > souls in the Spirit World. So stand your sacred ground and don't > > budge an inch. Gladly leave the organization to continue on your own > > but don't ever sell your soul to WCASY or Sir Shiva. Your allegiance > > and attention at all times must be exclusively, unconditionally and > > without any question whatsoever on the Adi Shakti, the Devi within: > > > > " Now listen attentively about the supreme devotion (parabhakti) > > which I will now describe to you. He always hears my glories and > > recites my name. His mind always dwells in me, like the incessant > > flow of oil, and he is the receptacle of all good qualities and > > gunas. But he does not have the least trace of any desire to get the > > fruits of his actions (karma). Indeed, he does not want the various > > levels of release (moksha), including being on the same plane as God > > (salokya), nearness to God (samipya), having the form of God > > (sarsti), union with God (sayujya) and other forms of release. > > Devi continues noting that true worshipers abandons all concepts of > > themselves, completely identify themselves with Devi, and make no > > distinctions between themselves and anything else. Worshipers find > >; Devi in everything, including other souls: > > > > He becomes filled with devotion for me alone, worships me only, > > knows nothing higher than to serve me, and he does not even want > > final release. He does not like neglecting the notions of " serving " > > (sevya) and the " servant who serves " (sevaka). He always meditates > > on me with a constant vigilance, actuated by a feeling of supreme > > devotion. He does not think of himself as separate from me, but > > rather thinks to himself, " I am the Lord (Bhagavati). " He considers > > all souls (jivas) as myself, and loves me as he loves himself. He > > makes no distinction between the souls and myself since he finds the > > same pure consciousness (caitanya) everywhere and manifested in all. > > He does not quarrel with anyone since he has abandoned all ideas of > > separateness. He bows down and worships the pure consciousness and > > all the souls. He becomes filled with the highest love when he sees > > my place, sees my devotees, hears the scriptures, describes my > > deeds, and meditates on my mantras. His hairs stand on end out of > > love for me and his tears of love flow incessantly from both of his > > eyes. He recites my name deeds in a voice that is choked with > > feelings of love for me. With intense feeling he worships me as the > > mother of this universe and the cause of all causes. " [Devi > > Bhagavata Purana, 7.37] > > > > Jai Shri Ganapathy, > > > > > > jagbir > > > Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Answers. Try it now. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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