Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Hi allI won't write a long mail. because I appreciate short and meaningful discussion. I was in school(XI) at that time and we had magazines in the Library. As I was always searching God I used to read a magazine of a spiritual leader. I used to read that magazine daily and got to learn a lot from it. Our family was already in SY by that time and one fine day someone discussed about Rajneesh and than I came to know that Rajneesh is also known as Osho. And that magazine was of Osho. So I stopped reading it. And recently after about 6 years, I was searching a book on Buddha. I don't knwo why but I bought the one called This very body the Buddha by Osho. After reading it I had a greater understanding about many things including life, enlightenment and death Also he mentioned about Zen teaching. I than searched theory about Zen on the internet. I think that sahaja yoga, Osho and Zen are all absolutely the same. In fact I now understand sahaja yoga much better. I would appreciate response from those who have read, understood or practiced the above 3 ways. I think its all the same depending the follower should be eager to attain enlightenment.Thanks All New Mail – Tired of Vi@gr@! come-ons? Let our SpamGuard protect you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 Dear Sambhav, i will seek any knowledge that leads me to the One who created me. Having found Her i will strew bit and pieces of that knowledge to mark the path taken to guide others to the same bank so that they too may cross to the Other Shore. Sahaja Yoga, Osho and Zen are useless words that will only weigh and slow down your journey. To cross the Void you will have to leave all of them behind. regards, jagbir , Sambhav <maddy7_maddy7 wrote: > > > Hi all > I won't write a long mail. because I appreciate short and meaningful discussion. > > I was in school(XI) at that time and we had magazines in the Library. As I was always searching God I used to read a magazine of a spiritual leader. I used to read that magazine daily and got to learn a lot from it. Our family was already in SY by that time and one fine day someone discussed about Rajneesh and than I came to know that Rajneesh is also known as Osho. And that magazine was of Osho. So I stopped reading it. > And recently after about 6 years, I was searching a book on Buddha. I don't knwo why but I bought the one called This very body the Buddha by Osho. After reading it I had a greater understanding about many things including life, enlightenment and death > Also he mentioned about Zen teaching. I than searched theory about Zen on the internet. > I think that sahaja yoga, Osho and Zen are all absolutely the same. In fact I now understand sahaja yoga much better. > I would appreciate response from those who have read, understood or practiced the above 3 ways. > I think its all the same depending the follower should be eager to attain enlightenment. > > Thanks > > > > All New Mail – Tired of Vi@gr@! come-ons? Let our SpamGuard protect you. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 Dear JagbirThe reason for me to use the three words Sahaja Yoga, Osho and Zen was to mention that neither of these ways is important and what is important is this very moment, which is free of past and future and it is the point which protects u and gives u all that u want. Its nothing else and not even God. Its this very moment the silence of existence where time stops. As its said - If You find Buddha on the way than kill him > When you grow higher and throw all your conditioning that there will be a moment when the only obstacle in your way is Buddha (Your Guru). At that time he\she is also an illusion and u have to leave it to go further. Regarding knowledge and path - The word path itself takes away from our goal. Because the Goal is right here. This very moment Love Ashwanijagbir singh <adishakti_org wrote: Dear Sambhav, i will seek any knowledge that leads me to the One who created me. Having found Her i will strew bit and pieces of that knowledge to mark the path taken to guide others to the same bank so that they too may cross to the Other Shore. Sahaja Yoga, Osho and Zen are useless words that will only weigh and slow down your journey. To cross the Void you will have to leave all of them behind. regards, jagbir , Sambhav <maddy7_maddy7 wrote: > > > Hi all > I won't write a long mail. because I appreciate short and meaningful discussion. > > I was in school(XI) at that time and we had magazines in the Library. As I was always searching God I used to read a magazine of a spiritual leader. I used to read that magazine daily and got to learn a lot from it. Our family was already in SY by that time and one fine day someone discussed about Rajneesh and than I came to know that Rajneesh is also known as Osho. And that magazine was of Osho. So I stopped reading it. > And recently after about 6 years, I was searching a book on Buddha. I don't knwo why but I bought the one called This very body the Buddha by Osho. After reading it I had a greater understanding about many things including life, enlightenment and death > Also he mentioned about Zen teaching. I than searched theory about Zen on the internet. > I think that sahaja yoga, Osho and Zen are all absolutely the same. In fact I now understand sahaja yoga much better. > I would appreciate response from those who have read, understood or practiced the above 3 ways. > I think its all the same depending the follower should be eager to attain enlightenment. > > Thanks > > > > All New Mail – Tired of Vi@gr@! come-ons? Let our SpamGuard protect you. > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 Dear VioletGod is Perfect. This very existence is a proof of his Perfection. And this very Existence is my Guru. The Sun, the moon, animals, humans, mountain and everything that comes in existence is my Guru. And I follow, trust and obey them. In fact there is no need to follow trust and obey them as I am not detached from them. Love AshwaniViolet <violet.tubb wrote: Dear Sambhav, Do you have a guru that you follow, trust, and obey? violet > Hi all > I won't write a long mail. because I appreciate short and meaningful discussion. > > I was in school(XI) at that time and we had magazines in the Library. As I was always searching God I used to read a magazine of a spiritual leader. I used to read that magazine daily and got to learn a lot from it. Our family was already in SY by that time and one fine day someone discussed about Rajneesh and than I came to know that Rajneesh is also known as Osho. And that magazine was of Osho. So I stopped reading it. > And recently after about 6 years, I was searching a book on Buddha. I don't knwo why but I bought the one called This very body the Buddha by Osho. After reading it I had a greater understanding about many things including life, enlightenment and death > Also he mentioned about Zen teaching. I than searched theory about Zen on the internet. > I think that sahaja yoga, Osho and Zen are all absolutely the same. In fact I now understand sahaja yoga much better. > I would appreciate response from those who have read, understood or practiced the above 3 ways. > I think its all the same depending the follower should be eager to attain enlightenment. > > Thanks > > > > All New Mail – Tired of Vi@gr@! come-ons? Let our SpamGuard protect you. > All new Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 Dear Sambhav, So you do not love, follow, trust and obey Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi? Answer me please, and don't evade the question. violet , Sambhav <maddy7_maddy7 wrote: > > Dear Violet > God is Perfect. This very existence is a proof of his Perfection. And this very Existence is my Guru. The Sun, the moon, animals, humans, mountain and everything that comes in existence is my Guru. And I follow, trust and obey them. In fact there is no need to follow trust and obey them as I am not detached from them. > > Love > Ashwani > > Violet <violet.tubb wrote: Dear Sambhav, > > Do you have a guru that you follow, trust, and obey? > > violet > > > Hi all > > I won't write a long mail. because I appreciate short and > meaningful discussion. > > > > I was in school(XI) at that time and we had magazines in the > Library. As I was always searching God I used to read a magazine of > a spiritual leader. I used to read that magazine daily and got to > learn a lot from it. Our family was already in SY by that time and > one fine day someone discussed about Rajneesh and than I came to know > that Rajneesh is also known as Osho. And that magazine was of Osho. > So I stopped reading it. > > And recently after about 6 years, I was searching a book on Buddha. > I don't knwo why but I bought the one called This very body the > Buddha by Osho. After reading it I had a greater understanding about > many things including life, enlightenment and death > > Also he mentioned about Zen teaching. I than searched theory about > Zen on the internet. > > I think that sahaja yoga, Osho and Zen are all absolutely the same. > In fact I now understand sahaja yoga much better. > > I would appreciate response from those who have read, understood or > practiced the above 3 ways. > > I think its all the same depending the follower should be eager to > attain enlightenment. > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > All New Mail – Tired of Vi@gr@! come-ons? Let our SpamGuard > protect you. > > > All new Mail " The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use. " - PC Magazine > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 Sambhav, Don't bother responding, for i have my answer. When i wrote the post asking you the question i did, this putrid hot flow of yuccky energy flowed into my left ear... indicating to me that you have an infected Left Visshudhi problem of major proportions. Meanwhile, i looked in Pending and saw that you had replied to my question of: " Do you love, follow, trust and obey Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi? " . i note that you have not replied to me with a straight " yes " or " no " answer. Instead you evaded it. Why? Can't you face up to your Self? Replying with a trite and vague " as much as you do " is not a " yes " or a " no " in my books. Therefore i have not approved it. i also note you posted recently on that anti Sahaja Yoga forum. That is not a real encouraging sign either. On that forum, it is condoned to demean Our Mother. That just says a lot to me that you can be there as well. violet , " Violet " <violet.tubb wrote: > > Dear Sambhav, > > So you do not love, follow, trust and obey Shri Mataji Nirmala > Devi? Answer me please, and don't evade the question. > > violet > > > , Sambhav > <maddy7_maddy7@> wrote: > > > > Dear Violet > > God is Perfect. This very existence is a proof of his Perfection. > And this very Existence is my Guru. The Sun, the moon, animals, > humans, mountain and everything that comes in existence is my Guru. > And I follow, trust and obey them. In fact there is no need to follow > trust and obey them as I am not detached from them. > > > > Love > > Ashwani > > > > Violet <violet.tubb@> wrote: > Dear Sambhav, > > > > Do you have a guru that you follow, trust, and obey? > > > > violet > > > > > Hi all > > > I won't write a long mail. because I appreciate short and > > meaningful discussion. > > > > > > I was in school(XI) at that time and we had magazines in the > > Library. As I was always searching God I used to read a magazine > of > > a spiritual leader. I used to read that magazine daily and got to > > learn a lot from it. Our family was already in SY by that time and > > one fine day someone discussed about Rajneesh and than I came to > know > > that Rajneesh is also known as Osho. And that magazine was of > Osho. > > So I stopped reading it. > > > And recently after about 6 years, I was searching a book on > Buddha. > > I don't knwo why but I bought the one called This very body the > > Buddha by Osho. After reading it I had a greater understanding > about > > many things including life, enlightenment and death > > > Also he mentioned about Zen teaching. I than searched theory > about > > Zen on the internet. > > > I think that sahaja yoga, Osho and Zen are all absolutely the > same. > > In fact I now understand sahaja yoga much better. > > > I would appreciate response from those who have read, understood > or > > practiced the above 3 ways. > > > I think its all the same depending the follower should be eager > to > > attain enlightenment. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > All New Mail – Tired of Vi@gr@! come-ons? Let our > SpamGuard > > protect you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All new Mail " The new Interface is stunning in its > simplicity and ease of use. " - PC Magazine > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 Sambhav, i forgot to say that, given the trite answer you gave me, i question your sincerity and honesty. Don't expect me to approve your posts, therefore. This forum is for sincere honest people... not for people who like to play mind games. violet , " Violet " <violet.tubb wrote: > > Sambhav, > > Don't bother responding, for i have my answer. When i wrote the post asking you the question i did, this putrid hot flow of yuccky energy flowed into my left ear... indicating to me that you have an infected Left Visshudhi problem of major proportions. > > Meanwhile, i looked in Pending and saw that you had replied to my question of: " Do you love, follow, trust and obey Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi? " . i note that you have not replied to me with a straight " yes " or " no " answer. Instead you evaded it. Why? Can't you face up to your Self? Replying with a trite and vague " as much as you do " is not a " yes " or a " no " in my books. Therefore i have not approved it. > > i also note you posted recently on that anti Sahaja Yoga forum. That is not a real encouraging sign either. On that forum, it is condoned to demean Our Mother. That just says a lot to me that you can be there as well. > > violet > > > > , > " Violet " <violet.tubb@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sambhav, > > > > So you do not love, follow, trust and obey Shri Mataji Nirmala > > Devi? Answer me please, and don't evade the question. > > > > violet > > > > > > , Sambhav > > <maddy7_maddy7@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Violet > > > God is Perfect. This very existence is a proof of his Perfection. > > And this very Existence is my Guru. The Sun, the moon, animals, > > humans, mountain and everything that comes in existence is my Guru. > > And I follow, trust and obey them. In fact there is no need to > follow > > trust and obey them as I am not detached from them. > > > > > > Love > > > Ashwani > > > > > > Violet <violet.tubb@> wrote: > > Dear Sambhav, > > > > > > Do you have a guru that you follow, trust, and obey? > > > > > > violet > > > > > > > Hi all > > > > I won't write a long mail. because I appreciate short and > > > meaningful discussion. > > > > > > > > I was in school(XI) at that time and we had magazines in the > > > Library. As I was always searching God I used to read a magazine > > of > > > a spiritual leader. I used to read that magazine daily and got to > > > learn a lot from it. Our family was already in SY by that time > and > > > one fine day someone discussed about Rajneesh and than I came to > > know > > > that Rajneesh is also known as Osho. And that magazine was of > > Osho. > > > So I stopped reading it. > > > > And recently after about 6 years, I was searching a book on > > Buddha. > > > I don't knwo why but I bought the one called This very body the > > > Buddha by Osho. After reading it I had a greater understanding > > about > > > many things including life, enlightenment and death > > > > Also he mentioned about Zen teaching. I than searched theory > > about > > > Zen on the internet. > > > > I think that sahaja yoga, Osho and Zen are all absolutely the > > same. > > > In fact I now understand sahaja yoga much better. > > > > I would appreciate response from those who have read, > understood > > or > > > practiced the above 3 ways. > > > > I think its all the same depending the follower should be eager > > to > > > attain enlightenment. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All New Mail – Tired of Vi@gr@! come-ons? Let our > > SpamGuard > > > protect you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All new Mail " The new Interface is stunning in its > > simplicity and ease of use. " - PC Magazine > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 Dear VioletI had a nice weekend and was glad to see your post on Monday morning.I don't know why you are angry on me. I really can't find any reason or maybe my mind is not capable to understand that reason. My only bad habit is that I only know the language of love and I can't hate anybody and the only thing I don't like is someone disliking me. Specially when I love that person.I do remember that when I joined this group I asked a question and you gave a very nice reply which helped me to develop in Sahaj. From that day I had a love and respect for you, which will always increase. And by your previous reply I love you more because I feel glad to know how dedicated you are towards mother.Alright lets do it this way. You are my sister and I am your brother. We both are in sahaj. And because of Sahaj knowledge I am able to understand Zen and thats why I posted a reasonable question. And suddenly you ask me a question Do U believe in Mother or not? Anyone who is in sahaj and has no (I mean a NO) doubt in her and who thinks mother is everywhere will always give the same answer. "As much as You Do". Saying yes is funny. At least for me because I have no doubt. Yes and No comes when one has a doubt.And yes, if if you read my post on the antisahaj forum. If you read it carefully you will realize that it was a pro-sahaj post on the anti-sahaj forum. Also you came to know that I posted there, was because you are also a member of that forum. I am in that forum for the same reason, the same reason because you are in that forum. Because I care As much as You Do.what do you think ?Warm Regards and lots of LoveSambhavViolet <violet.tubb wrote: Sambhav, Don't bother responding, for i have my answer. When i wrote the post asking you the question i did, this putrid hot flow of yuccky energy flowed into my left ear... indicating to me that you have an infected Left Visshudhi problem of major proportions. Meanwhile, i looked in Pending and saw that you had replied to my question of: "Do you love, follow, trust and obey Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi?". i note that you have not replied to me with a straight "yes" or "no" answer. Instead you evaded it. Why? Can't you face up to your Self? Replying with a trite and vague "as much as you do" is not a "yes" or a "no" in my books. Therefore i have not approved it. i also note you posted recently on that anti Sahaja Yoga forum. That is not a real encouraging sign either. On that forum, it is condoned to demean Our Mother. That just says a lot to me that you can be there as well. violet , "Violet" <violet.tubb wrote: > > Dear Sambhav, > > So you do not love, follow, trust and obey Shri Mataji Nirmala > Devi? Answer me please, and don't evade the question. > > violet > > > , Sambhav > <maddy7_maddy7@> wrote: > > > > Dear Violet > > God is Perfect. This very existence is a proof of his Perfection. > And this very Existence is my Guru. The Sun, the moon, animals, > humans, mountain and everything that comes in existence is my Guru. > And I follow, trust and obey them. In fact there is no need to follow > trust and obey them as I am not detached from them. > > > > Love > > Ashwani > > > > Violet <violet.tubb@> wrote: > Dear Sambhav, > > > > Do you have a guru that you follow, trust, and obey? > > > > violet > > > > > Hi all > > > I won't write a long mail. because I appreciate short and > > meaningful discussion. > > > > > > I was in school(XI) at that time and we had magazines in the > > Library. As I was always searching God I used to read a magazine > of > > a spiritual leader. I used to read that magazine daily and got to > > learn a lot from it. Our family was already in SY by that time and > > one fine day someone discussed about Rajneesh and than I came to > know > > that Rajneesh is also known as Osho. And that magazine was of > Osho. > > So I stopped reading it. > > > And recently after about 6 years, I was searching a book on > Buddha. > > I don't knwo why but I bought the one called This very body the > > Buddha by Osho. After reading it I had a greater understanding > about > > many things including life, enlightenment and death > > > Also he mentioned about Zen teaching. I than searched theory > about > > Zen on the internet. > > > I think that sahaja yoga, Osho and Zen are all absolutely the > same. > > In fact I now understand sahaja yoga much better. > > > I would appreciate response from those who have read, understood > or > > practiced the above 3 ways. > > > I think its all the same depending the follower should be eager > to > > attain enlightenment. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > All New Mail – Tired of Vi@gr@! come-ons? Let our > SpamGuard > > protect you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All new Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its > simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine > > > To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Security Centre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 Sambhav, You continue to evade the question: " Do you follow, love, trust, and obey Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi? Nothing else matters. All your nice words don't matter, if you can't answer that most important question. (Btw...i have never been a member of the anti-Sahaj forum, which denigrates our Mother.) violet , Sambhav <maddy7_maddy7 wrote: > > Dear Violet > I had a nice weekend and was glad to see your post on Monday morning. > > I don't know why you are angry on me. I really can't find any reason or maybe my mind is not capable to understand that reason. My only bad habit is that I only know the language of love and I can't hate anybody and the only thing I don't like is someone disliking me. Specially when I love that person. > > I do remember that when I joined this group I asked a question and you gave a very nice reply which helped me to develop in Sahaj. From that day I had a love and respect for you, which will always increase. And by your previous reply I love you more because I feel glad to know how dedicated you are towards mother. > > Alright lets do it this way. You are my sister and I am your brother. We both are in sahaj. And because of Sahaj knowledge I am able to understand Zen and thats why I posted a reasonable question. And suddenly you ask me a question Do U believe in Mother or not? Anyone who is in sahaj and has no (I mean a NO) doubt in her and who thinks mother is everywhere will always give the same answer. " As much as You Do " . Saying yes is funny. At least for me because I have no doubt. Yes and No comes when one has a doubt. > > And yes, if if you read my post on the antisahaj forum. If you read it carefully you will realize that it was a pro-sahaj post on the anti-sahaj forum. Also you came to know that I posted there, was because you are also a member of that forum. I am in that forum for the same reason, the same reason because you are in that forum. Because I care As much as You Do. > what do you think ? > > Warm Regards and lots of Love > Sambhav > > Violet <violet.tubb wrote: Sambhav, > > Don't bother responding, for i have my answer. When i wrote the post asking you the question i did, this putrid hot flow of yuccky energy flowed into my left ear... indicating to me that you have an infected Left Visshudhi problem of major proportions. > > Meanwhile, i looked in Pending and saw that you had replied to my question of: " Do you love, follow, trust and obey Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi? " . i note that you have not replied to me with a straight " yes " or " no " answer. Instead you evaded it. Why? Can't you face up to your Self? Replying with a trite and vague " as much as you do " is not a " yes " or a " no " in my books. Therefore i have not approved it. > > i also note you posted recently on that anti Sahaja Yoga forum. That is not a real encouraging sign either. On that forum, it is condoned to demean Our Mother. That just says a lot to me that you can be there as well. > > violet > > , > " Violet " <violet.tubb@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sambhav, > > > > So you do not love, follow, trust and obey Shri Mataji Nirmala > > Devi? Answer me please, and don't evade the question. > > > > violet > > > > > > , Sambhav > > <maddy7_maddy7@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Violet > > > God is Perfect. This very existence is a proof of his Perfection. > > And this very Existence is my Guru. The Sun, the moon, animals, > > humans, mountain and everything that comes in existence is my Guru. > > And I follow, trust and obey them. In fact there is no need to > follow > > trust and obey them as I am not detached from them. > > > > > > Love > > > Ashwani > > > > > > Violet <violet.tubb@> wrote: > > Dear Sambhav, > > > > > > Do you have a guru that you follow, trust, and obey? > > > > > > violet > > > > > > > Hi all > > > > I won't write a long mail. because I appreciate short and > > > meaningful discussion. > > > > > > > > I was in school(XI) at that time and we had magazines in the > > > Library. As I was always searching God I used to read a magazine > > of > > > a spiritual leader. I used to read that magazine daily and got to > > > learn a lot from it. Our family was already in SY by that time > and > > > one fine day someone discussed about Rajneesh and than I came to > > know > > > that Rajneesh is also known as Osho. And that magazine was of > > Osho. > > > So I stopped reading it. > > > > And recently after about 6 years, I was searching a book on > > Buddha. > > > I don't knwo why but I bought the one called This very body the > > > Buddha by Osho. After reading it I had a greater understanding > > about > > > many things including life, enlightenment and death > > > > Also he mentioned about Zen teaching. I than searched theory > > about > > > Zen on the internet. > > > > I think that sahaja yoga, Osho and Zen are all absolutely the > > same. > > > In fact I now understand sahaja yoga much better. > > > > I would appreciate response from those who have read, > understood > > or > > > practiced the above 3 ways. > > > > I think its all the same depending the follower should be eager > > to > > > attain enlightenment. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All New Mail – Tired of Vi@gr@! come-ons? Let our > > SpamGuard > > > protect you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All new Mail " The new Interface is stunning in its > > simplicity and ease of use. " - PC Magazine > > > > > > To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Security Centre. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 Yes, I follow, love, trust, and obey Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi?And I wish that she gives wisdom and love to every Human BeingRegardsSambhavViolet <violet.tubb wrote: Sambhav, You continue to evade the question: "Do you follow, love, trust, and obey Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi? Nothing else matters. All your nice words don't matter, if you can't answer that most important question. (Btw...i have never been a member of the anti-Sahaj forum, which denigrates our Mother.) violet , Sambhav <maddy7_maddy7 wrote: > > Dear Violet > I had a nice weekend and was glad to see your post on Monday morning. > > I don't know why you are angry on me. I really can't find any reason or maybe my mind is not capable to understand that reason. My only bad habit is that I only know the language of love and I can't hate anybody and the only thing I don't like is someone disliking me. Specially when I love that person. > > I do remember that when I joined this group I asked a question and you gave a very nice reply which helped me to develop in Sahaj. From that day I had a love and respect for you, which will always increase. And by your previous reply I love you more because I feel glad to know how dedicated you are towards mother. > > Alright lets do it this way. You are my sister and I am your brother. We both are in sahaj. And because of Sahaj knowledge I am able to understand Zen and thats why I posted a reasonable question. And suddenly you ask me a question Do U believe in Mother or not? Anyone who is in sahaj and has no (I mean a NO) doubt in her and who thinks mother is everywhere will always give the same answer. "As much as You Do". Saying yes is funny. At least for me because I have no doubt. Yes and No comes when one has a doubt. > > And yes, if if you read my post on the antisahaj forum. If you read it carefully you will realize that it was a pro-sahaj post on the anti-sahaj forum. Also you came to know that I posted there, was because you are also a member of that forum. I am in that forum for the same reason, the same reason because you are in that forum. Because I care As much as You Do. > what do you think ? > > Warm Regards and lots of Love > Sambhav > > Violet <violet.tubb wrote: Sambhav, > > Don't bother responding, for i have my answer. When i wrote the post asking you the question i did, this putrid hot flow of yuccky energy flowed into my left ear... indicating to me that you have an infected Left Visshudhi problem of major proportions. > > Meanwhile, i looked in Pending and saw that you had replied to my question of: "Do you love, follow, trust and obey Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi?". i note that you have not replied to me with a straight "yes" or "no" answer. Instead you evaded it. Why? Can't you face up to your Self? Replying with a trite and vague "as much as you do" is not a "yes" or a "no" in my books. Therefore i have not approved it. > > i also note you posted recently on that anti Sahaja Yoga forum. That is not a real encouraging sign either. On that forum, it is condoned to demean Our Mother. That just says a lot to me that you can be there as well. > > violet > > , > "Violet" <violet.tubb@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sambhav, > > > > So you do not love, follow, trust and obey Shri Mataji Nirmala > > Devi? Answer me please, and don't evade the question. > > > > violet > > > > > > , Sambhav > > <maddy7_maddy7@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Violet > > > God is Perfect. This very existence is a proof of his Perfection. > > And this very Existence is my Guru. The Sun, the moon, animals, > > humans, mountain and everything that comes in existence is my Guru. > > And I follow, trust and obey them. In fact there is no need to > follow > > trust and obey them as I am not detached from them. > > > > > > Love > > > Ashwani > > > > > > Violet <violet.tubb@> wrote: > > Dear Sambhav, > > > > > > Do you have a guru that you follow, trust, and obey? > > > > > > violet > > > > > > > Hi all > > > > I won't write a long mail. because I appreciate short and > > > meaningful discussion. > > > > > > > > I was in school(XI) at that time and we had magazines in the > > > Library. As I was always searching God I used to read a magazine > > of > > > a spiritual leader. I used to read that magazine daily and got to > > > learn a lot from it. Our family was already in SY by that time > and > > > one fine day someone discussed about Rajneesh and than I came to > > know > > > that Rajneesh is also known as Osho. And that magazine was of > > Osho. > > > So I stopped reading it. > > > > And recently after about 6 years, I was searching a book on > > Buddha. > > > I don't knwo why but I bought the one called This very body the > > > Buddha by Osho. After reading it I had a greater understanding > > about > > > many things including life, enlightenment and death > > > > Also he mentioned about Zen teaching. I than searched theory > > about > > > Zen on the internet. > > > > I think that sahaja yoga, Osho and Zen are all absolutely the > > same. > > > In fact I now understand sahaja yoga much better. > > > > I would appreciate response from those who have read, > understood > > or > > > practiced the above 3 ways. > > > > I think its all the same depending the follower should be eager > > to > > > attain enlightenment. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All New Mail – Tired of Vi@gr@! come-ons? 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Guest guest Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 Dear Sambhav, i regret being harsh with you. i could have expressed myself in a better way than i did. i hope you have a Blessed Christmas and a Happy New Year. kind regards, violet , Sambhav <maddy7_maddy7 wrote: > > Yes, I follow, love, trust, and obey Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi? > > And I wish that she gives wisdom and love to every Human Being > > Regards > Sambhav > > Violet <violet.tubb wrote: Sambhav, > > You continue to evade the question: > > " Do you follow, love, trust, and obey Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi? > > Nothing else matters. All your nice words don't matter, if you can't > answer that most important question. > > (Btw...i have never been a member of the anti-Sahaj forum, which denigrates our Mother.) > > violet > > , Sambhav > <maddy7_maddy7@> wrote: > > > > Dear Violet > > I had a nice weekend and was glad to see your post on Monday > morning. > > > > I don't know why you are angry on me. I really can't find any > reason or maybe my mind is not capable to understand that reason. My > only bad habit is that I only know the language of love and I can't > hate anybody and the only thing I don't like is someone disliking me. > Specially when I love that person. > > > > I do remember that when I joined this group I asked a question and > you gave a very nice reply which helped me to develop in Sahaj. From > that day I had a love and respect for you, which will always > increase. And by your previous reply I love you more because I feel > glad to know how dedicated you are towards mother. > > > > Alright lets do it this way. You are my sister and I am your > brother. We both are in sahaj. And because of Sahaj knowledge I am > able to understand Zen and thats why I posted a reasonable question. > And suddenly you ask me a question Do U believe in Mother or not? > Anyone who is in sahaj and has no (I mean a NO) doubt in her and who > thinks mother is everywhere will always give the same answer. " As > much as You Do " . Saying yes is funny. At least for me because I have > no doubt. Yes and No comes when one has a doubt. > > > > And yes, if if you read my post on the antisahaj forum. If you read > it carefully you will realize that it was a pro-sahaj post on the > anti-sahaj forum. Also you came to know that I posted there, was > because you are also a member of that forum. I am in that forum for > the same reason, the same reason because you are in that forum. > Because I care As much as You Do. > > what do you think ? > > > > Warm Regards and lots of Love > > Sambhav > > > > Violet <violet.tubb@> wrote: > Sambhav, > > > > Don't bother responding, for i have my answer. When i wrote the > post asking you the question i did, this putrid hot flow of yuccky > energy flowed into my left ear... indicating to me that you have an > infected Left Visshudhi problem of major proportions. > > > > Meanwhile, i looked in Pending and saw that you had replied to my > question of: " Do you love, follow, trust and obey Shri Mataji Nirmala > Devi? " . i note that you have not replied to me with a straight " yes " > or " no " answer. Instead you evaded it. Why? Can't you face up to your > Self? Replying with a trite and vague " as much as you do " is not a > " yes " or a " no " in my books. Therefore i have not approved it. > > > > i also note you posted recently on that anti Sahaja Yoga forum. > That is not a real encouraging sign either. On that forum, it is > condoned to demean Our Mother. That just says a lot to me that you > can be there as well. > > > > violet > > > > , > > " Violet " <violet.tubb@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sambhav, > > > > > > So you do not love, follow, trust and obey Shri Mataji Nirmala > > > Devi? Answer me please, and don't evade the question. > > > > > > violet > > > > > > > > > , Sambhav > > > <maddy7_maddy7@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Violet > > > > God is Perfect. This very existence is a proof of his > Perfection. > > > And this very Existence is my Guru. The Sun, the moon, animals, > > > humans, mountain and everything that comes in existence is my > Guru. > > > And I follow, trust and obey them. In fact there is no need to > > follow > > > trust and obey them as I am not detached from them. > > > > > > > > Love > > > > Ashwani > > > > > > > > Violet <violet.tubb@> wrote: > > > Dear Sambhav, > > > > > > > > Do you have a guru that you follow, trust, and obey? > > > > > > > > violet > > > > > > > > > Hi all > > > > > I won't write a long mail. because I appreciate short and > > > > meaningful discussion. > > > > > > > > > > I was in school(XI) at that time and we had magazines in the > > > > Library. As I was always searching God I used to read a > magazine > > > of > > > > a spiritual leader. I used to read that magazine daily and > got to > > > > learn a lot from it. Our family was already in SY by that > time > > and > > > > one fine day someone discussed about Rajneesh and than I came > to > > > know > > > > that Rajneesh is also known as Osho. And that magazine was of > > > Osho. > > > > So I stopped reading it. > > > > > And recently after about 6 years, I was searching a book on > > > Buddha. > > > > I don't knwo why but I bought the one called This very body > the > > > > Buddha by Osho. After reading it I had a greater understanding > > > about > > > > many things including life, enlightenment and death > > > > > Also he mentioned about Zen teaching. I than searched theory > > > about > > > > Zen on the internet. > > > > > I think that sahaja yoga, Osho and Zen are all absolutely > the > > > same. > > > > In fact I now understand sahaja yoga much better. > > > > > I would appreciate response from those who have read, > > understood > > > or > > > > practiced the above 3 ways. > > > > > I think its all the same depending the follower should be > eager > > > to > > > > attain enlightenment. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All New Mail – Tired of Vi@gr@! come-ons? 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Guest guest Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 Dear VioletYou were not harsh. Infact I think I was being too non serious. And yes, your Christmas card is on the way. LoveSambhavViolet <violet.tubb wrote: Dear Sambhav, i regret being harsh with you. i could have expressed myself in a better way than i did. i hope you have a Blessed Christmas and a Happy New Year. kind regards, violet , Sambhav <maddy7_maddy7 wrote: > > Yes, I follow, love, trust, and obey Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi? > > And I wish that she gives wisdom and love to every Human Being > > Regards > Sambhav > > Violet <violet.tubb wrote: Sambhav, > > You continue to evade the question: > > "Do you follow, love, trust, and obey Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi? > > Nothing else matters. All your nice words don't matter, if you can't > answer that most important question. > > (Btw...i have never been a member of the anti-Sahaj forum, which denigrates our Mother.) > > violet > > , Sambhav > <maddy7_maddy7@> wrote: > > > > Dear Violet > > I had a nice weekend and was glad to see your post on Monday > morning. > > > > I don't know why you are angry on me. I really can't find any > reason or maybe my mind is not capable to understand that reason. My > only bad habit is that I only know the language of love and I can't > hate anybody and the only thing I don't like is someone disliking me. > Specially when I love that person. > > > > I do remember that when I joined this group I asked a question and > you gave a very nice reply which helped me to develop in Sahaj. From > that day I had a love and respect for you, which will always > increase. And by your previous reply I love you more because I feel > glad to know how dedicated you are towards mother. > > > > Alright lets do it this way. You are my sister and I am your > brother. We both are in sahaj. And because of Sahaj knowledge I am > able to understand Zen and thats why I posted a reasonable question. > And suddenly you ask me a question Do U believe in Mother or not? > Anyone who is in sahaj and has no (I mean a NO) doubt in her and who > thinks mother is everywhere will always give the same answer. "As > much as You Do". Saying yes is funny. At least for me because I have > no doubt. Yes and No comes when one has a doubt. > > > > And yes, if if you read my post on the antisahaj forum. If you read > it carefully you will realize that it was a pro-sahaj post on the > anti-sahaj forum. Also you came to know that I posted there, was > because you are also a member of that forum. I am in that forum for > the same reason, the same reason because you are in that forum. > Because I care As much as You Do. > > what do you think ? > > > > Warm Regards and lots of Love > > Sambhav > > > > Violet <violet.tubb@> wrote: > Sambhav, > > > > Don't bother responding, for i have my answer. When i wrote the > post asking you the question i did, this putrid hot flow of yuccky > energy flowed into my left ear... indicating to me that you have an > infected Left Visshudhi problem of major proportions. > > > > Meanwhile, i looked in Pending and saw that you had replied to my > question of: "Do you love, follow, trust and obey Shri Mataji Nirmala > Devi?". i note that you have not replied to me with a straight "yes" > or "no" answer. Instead you evaded it. Why? Can't you face up to your > Self? Replying with a trite and vague "as much as you do" is not a > "yes" or a "no" in my books. Therefore i have not approved it. > > > > i also note you posted recently on that anti Sahaja Yoga forum. > That is not a real encouraging sign either. On that forum, it is > condoned to demean Our Mother. That just says a lot to me that you > can be there as well. > > > > violet > > > > , > > "Violet" <violet.tubb@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sambhav, > > > > > > So you do not love, follow, trust and obey Shri Mataji Nirmala > > > Devi? Answer me please, and don't evade the question. > > > > > > violet > > > > > > > > > , Sambhav > > > <maddy7_maddy7@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Violet > > > > God is Perfect. This very existence is a proof of his > Perfection. > > > And this very Existence is my Guru. The Sun, the moon, animals, > > > humans, mountain and everything that comes in existence is my > Guru. > > > And I follow, trust and obey them. In fact there is no need to > > follow > > > trust and obey them as I am not detached from them. > > > > > > > > Love > > > > Ashwani > > > > > > > > Violet <violet.tubb@> wrote: > > > Dear Sambhav, > > > > > > > > Do you have a guru that you follow, trust, and obey? > > > > > > > > violet > > > > > > > > > Hi all > > > > > I won't write a long mail. because I appreciate short and > > > > meaningful discussion. > > > > > > > > > > I was in school(XI) at that time and we had magazines in the > > > > Library. As I was always searching God I used to read a > magazine > > > of > > > > a spiritual leader. I used to read that magazine daily and > got to > > > > learn a lot from it. Our family was already in SY by that > time > > and > > > > one fine day someone discussed about Rajneesh and than I came > to > > > know > > > > that Rajneesh is also known as Osho. And that magazine was of > > > Osho. > > > > So I stopped reading it. > > > > > And recently after about 6 years, I was searching a book on > > > Buddha. > > > > I don't knwo why but I bought the one called This very body > the > > > > Buddha by Osho. After reading it I had a greater understanding > > > about > > > > many things including life, enlightenment and death > > > > > Also he mentioned about Zen teaching. I than searched theory > > > about > > > > Zen on the internet. > > > > > I think that sahaja yoga, Osho and Zen are all absolutely > the > > > same. > > > > In fact I now understand sahaja yoga much better. > > > > > I would appreciate response from those who have read, > > understood > > > or > > > > practiced the above 3 ways. > > > > > I think its all the same depending the follower should be > eager > > > to > > > > attain enlightenment. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All New Mail – Tired of Vi@gr@! come-ons? Let our > > > SpamGuard > > > > protect you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All new Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its > > > simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all > new Security Centre. > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http:// uk.messenger. > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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