Guest guest Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Dear Kyyan and All, Since Shri Mataji is not talking to anyone anymore - leaders, council members, relatives, children, husband, in-laws etc - an innovative way has been found to circumvent the apparent embarassment of Shri Mataji remaining silent for no apparent reason. My kudos to the brainstormers who now claim Shri Mataji's vibrations are 'talking' to them .......... even though Shri Mataji remains silent. Now anything can be endorsed as kosher as Shri Mataji's vibrations are 'talking' to SYs. The sky is the limit as to what can be claimed by SYs as having Shri Mataji's approval. Isn't that devilishly ingenious? Last year council members were disposed without Shri Mataji approval. Books of phantasy are launched to promote Sahaja Yoga and SYs hoodwinked to belief She has blessed fiction to be the mode of telling the truth. Sir CP has been elevated to be the incarnation of Shiva. Even Her Will has been divided and now represented by mere humans. Now we are being told Her vibrations are talking to SYs and telling them to go ahead with their plans. i thought i had heard enough but this tops it. No one is asking: - if Shri Mataji is reading and signing all the documents why doesn't She just say a few words? - why is She not speaking to any of those who are making all these claims? - if SY have experienced that the silence of their own mothers is because they have erred and wounded their hearts why is no one thinking the same for Shri Mataji? jagbir , " v_koa " <v_koa wrote: > > Dear all, > > Is it just me or is there no part of that description of Sir Cp's speach which actually says we > should declare openly about Shri Mataji. I see reference to spreading her message about > being one and about love, but i see nowhere in there that we should be openly declaring > her as the Holy Spirit incarnate who has come at this time of last judgement and > ressurection. Though i was not there and have never even met Shri Mataji in person or > been to any pujas of an international kind, i find it kind of presumptious to assume that > just because there were lots of vibrations that Shri Mataji had blessed the worlds > collectives, etc, for spreading this message of oneness and taking realization. > > Like i said, i was not there, but i dont see any reference to Shri Mataji speaking or saying > anything to that effect. I am aware that Shri Mataji's vibrations are continually getting > stronger and stronger as she gets older and older(by talking to a few yogis who have been > with her at pujas as recently as ganesha aqnd krishna of 2006 and have been around her > many times in the earlier years), but if she didn't say anything at all to that affect, i find it > quite an assumption that the level of vibrations felt there are being taken to mean we are > given to go ahead by her to simply spread the message of oneness and selfrealization; > especially when she has said we should be telling the truth about her and the last > judgement and ressurection, and allow people to take part in it by giving them their > realization as well. It was an upfront package deal as far as i can tell by what she has said > about it; not a flashy package and ribbon set designed to dazzle the recievers first, only to > open it up and find nothing but packing paper and empty sentiment until such time as > they begin to question the purpose of such a sparkling package long after the novelty > grows tired. To me that seems quite the opposite to what she said when she was of superb > health in mind and body. > > It might just be me though..... > > With love > > Kyyan > > > , " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org@> > wrote: > > > > , Sambhav > > <maddy7_maddy7@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear All > > > I was happy to see a good improvement in Mother's Health. Also in > > > Sir CP's speech he said that now we have to declare openly about > > > shri Mataji (Through all meand including media). > > > > > > Sambhav > > > > > > > Dear Sambhav, > > > > i assure you nothing has changed except for the increase in the > > decibel and quality of the hype. It is the same old wine - message of > > Love and taking Realization - that is being poured in new bottles. > > SYs in India are already getting intoxicated as they cannot hold > > their drink from all the rounds of toasting ...... now that success > > is now just a realization or two away. Maybe all this is for > > collective consumption. (It was so moving and awe-inspiring that a > > huge crocodile tear fell into my tea and splased onto the laptop.) > > > > There are hundreds of gurus also giving the same message of Love > > and taking Realization ......... most of whom are considered false by > > these drunk SYs. To the general public the SY message of Love and > > taking Realization is no different from any other guru, as distinct > > as peas in a pod. So why are these SYs celebrating like crazy? > > > > But what about Shri Mataji's original and distinct message of the > > Last Judgment and Resurrection which no guru or religious institution > > has any power over? i guess neither Sir CP, WCASY, leaders nor SYs > > are interested. > > > > So party on effective instruments of the Divine! > > > > jagbir > > > > > > > > > > " Gifts from the little angels of the Nirmal Prem NGO project at > > Greater Noida, ISPS, Dharmshala and the state of West Bengal from > > India added to the collective offering of the gifts at Her Holy Lotus > > Feet. > > > > It was after a long pause that our beloved Pappaji, Sir CP stood up > > to address the collectivity with very powerful words and expressions > > that touched all our hearts. It was indeed a part of the resolution > > taken by the collective on behalf of the world Sahaja collective and > > vowed before our most Holy Mother. Sir CP began with these words… " May > > I wish you all a very happy Christmas and a very happy New Year! He > > said you know when a new year comes every one makes new resolutions > > every time. People have many wishes to make that they expect to be > > fulfilled. Continuing in his flawless diction Sir CP said " he has a > > wish to make that She (Shri Mataji) should continue to be presiding > > here like this and we should be sitting here. And accompanying this > > wish is the need of the world for Her to spread the love and the > > message to be one. He further said, that if this world created by Her > > becomes one, it will be the greatest of the wishes. Then like a > > father he assured and desired for us to take a strong resolution that > > Shri Mataji has played Her role and whose turn should it be now? The > > entire collectivity after a pause affirmed - " Ours " with the hands > > raised spontaneously. Pappaji repeated, " Yes, indeed it is now your > > turn " . " Do you promise that " ? " I stood up just to get that promise > > from you on this New Year " > > > > The curtains were drawn at quarter to eleven as the collectivity > > stood up with freezing chilliness in the air. The coolness spoke for > > itself of the level of vibrations that rose at that moment. Mother in > > Her Shri Jesus Form blessed us on behalf of the entire collectivity > > of the world with all fortunes for the years to come. Thank You > > Mother for You accepted our prayers and the Christmas Puja at Your > > Holy Lotus Feet. > > > > Mother, we promise you on behalf of the world collectivity that we > > shall abide by the resolution we just now made to Sir CP on spreading > > Your message of Love and taking Realization to the farthest corner of > > the world by Your blessings. Please make us Your effective > > instruments to carry forward our desire as You are the Doer and the > > Enjoyer. " > > > > http://www.shrimataji.org/india-2006/story/109 > > > > > Violet <violet.tubb@> wrote: > > Dear All, > > > > > > It was a momentous Time of Great Joy in the late 70's when Shri > > Mataji declared openly Who She Is. Such awe, wonder, and joy! Shri > > Mataji had prepared yogis to receive the momentous truth of who She > > Is, by helping them spiritually in so many ways. Once She had done > > that, She asked Her Devotees to do the same and also prove Who She Is: > > > > > > " But now it is for you people, who have to prove it, that I am > > that. " (Guru Puja - Dollis Hill, UK - 2 December, 1979) > > > > > > Of course, we now know that Sahaja Yogis did not openly declare > > Who She Is to the world, but those with the sway, preferred to > > advertise Her as a Meditation/Subtle System Teacher. However Shri > > Mataji wanted more than that!!! She wanted the World to know She is > > the Adi Shakti!!! This is happening now... fortunately. The " special > > personalities who Shri Mataji said would give evidence of Her > > Incarnation from Montreal, Canada " ... are finally proving Who She > > Really Is, and you can read all about it at: > > > > > > http://www.adishakti.org/ > > > > > > The above website is therefore very important, as in it is the > > proof of Who Shri Mataji Really Is!!! It also proves that Shri Mataji > > has fulfilled the Spiritual Eschatology (prophecies) about the Divine > > Feminine in all Scriptures. There is the Hindu 'Adi Shakti'... the > > Christian 'Comforter'... the Muslim 'Ruh of 'Allah'... the > > Buddhist 'Maitreya'... the Sikh 'Aykaa Mayee'... the > > Jewish 'Shekinah' and the Taoist 'Great Mother'. > > > > > > In addition to this Request to Sahaja Yogis, Shri Mataji also > > makes it most clear how very important it is to " recognise Her " . We > > are not talking about just any ordinary human being here... folks!!! > > We are talking about a Very Special Spiritual Incarnation, the likes > > of which have never been seen on Earth before!!! This Incarnation is > > no less than the Great Mother of the Universe... The Holy Spirit > > Incarnate!!! > > > > > > The fact that " the Holy Spirit Incarnate " ... has told us that > > recognition of Her is of utmost importance for our spiritual > > benevolence, therefore this is something that we need to follow if we > > wish to have the spiritual benefits. It is in fact my belief... that > > any meditation or subtle system work is only as effective as > > is " recognition of Her " . " If the recognition is not there " ... > > according to Shri Mataji... " it will not work out " . Take it or leave > > it folks... but it will not work out, unless you recognise Her. > > > > > > So... please enjoy these momentous confidences of Shri Mataji > > which were originally just for Her Devotees, but now is for all the > > Seekers of Truth to read and understand and to benefit from > > spiritually. > > > > > > Jai Shri Mother! > > > > > > violet > > > > > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi... > > > > > > " Today is the day I declare that I am the One who has to save the > > humanity. I declare I am the One who is Adi Shakti, who is the Mother > > of all the mothers, who is the Primordial Mother, the Shakti, the > > Desire of God, who has incarnated on this Earth to give its meaning > > to itself.... to this creation, to human beings... and I am sure > > through My Love and Patience and My Powers... I am going to achieve > > it. > > > > > > I was the One who was born again and again. But now in my complete > > form and complete powers, I have come on this Earth... not only for > > salvation of human beings, not only for their emancipation, but for > > granting them the Kingdom of Heaven... the Joy, the Bliss that your > > Father wants to bestow upon you. > > > > > > These words are to be kept within the bounds of Sahaja Yogis only > > for the time being, and today is the day of Guru Puja... not My puja, > > but your Puja as Gurus. I anoint all of you as Gurus, and today I > > will tell you what I have bestowed upon you, and what great powers > > you already have within you. > > > > > > Among you there are people who have still not been able to > > recognise. My announcement will work it out within them... 'the > > recognition'. Without recognition, you cannot see the play. Without > > the play, you cannot have confidence within yourself. Without > > confidence, you cannot become the Guru. Without becoming (the) Guru, > > you cannot help others. Without helping others, you are not going to > > be in any way happy. > > > > > > So to break the chain is very easy... but to build the chain one > > after another is what you have to do. This is what you were all > > wanting to be. So be Confident and be Joyous and be Happy... that all > > my Powers will Protect you, my Love will nourish you, and my Nature > > will fill you with Peace and Joy. May God Bless You. " > > > > > > (Extracts from Guru Puja - Dollis Hill, UK - 2/12/79) > > > > > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi... > > > > > > First of all you have to know you are prophets, and you must know > > that I am the Holy Ghost. I am the Adi Shakti. I am the one who has > > come on this Earth for the first time in this form... to do this > > tremendous task. The more you'll understand this, the better it would > > be. I knew I'll have to say that openly one day. But now it is for > > you people... who have to prove it... that I am that. > > > > > > Because I have said now " I am the Holy Ghost " ... everybody seems > > to be 'over happy' and joyous. I have told you whatever was needed > > for your counselling. I have taught you how to redeem others and > > comfort them. You know everything. Now just become masters in this > > art... forgetting the past. You are all great people. All of you. > > Declare to all the Nations now that I am the Holy Ghost... and I have > > come for this Special Time that is the Resurrection Time. > > > > > > (Shri Mataji's 60th Birthday Puja - Sydney, Australia - 21 March, > > 1983) > > > > > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi... > > > > > > Then how you behave is very important. You should not be > > artificial or superficial. But best is to put your hand on your > > heart... both the hands... and just try to feel (that) your Mother is > > (the) Adi Shakti. She has created all this Universe. She has created > > all this World, and She is for your Protection. As soon as I come to > > know about your problems, my attention can work it out. > > > > > > All this protection is given to you because you are seekers of > > truth, and the truth is that I am the Adi Shakti Incarnated. Once > > this truth becomes one with your Self, there's nothing to fear... > > because all the Deities know this fact. They know about this > > Incarnation very well. They'll do anything to substantiate your > > belief in every way: my photographs... in the sky... they are so > > anxious! They are behind the stage... before the stage... all sides > > of the stage... listening to me... feeling very happy that I am > > telling you the truth. But the way they recognise... the way they > > act... they never disobey. If you behave in the same manner, you are > > completely protected from all these problems I have told you about. > > > > > > Once you have recognised... you will have no fear from anyone and > > the more you show that recognition, the more you realise it. You get > > higher and higher... not only spiritually, but every way, mentally, > > socially, economically, politically. (It) is very remarkable that not > > only (do) you recognise me as a Mother who loves you very much... but > > (also) a Mother who is powerful to protect you. > > > > > > So just behind this recognition... is all the powers. But if you > > are doubting... still half way 'this that'... then things won't be > > alright. You shouldn't worry about your reputation. Just go full > > speed into any direction, knowing one thing... " that you are my > > child, and that I am Adi Shakti " . Everything that looks horrible will > > become better. You have seen it now. Don't worry about anything! Just > > know that I am the Adi Shakti. That all the Powers of Gods and > > Goddesses 'and all that are within me'... and they " are " within me, > > and they are " all " looking after! > > > > > > But if the recognition is not there... they are not going to > > recognise you either. Supposing I correct you sometimes. Instead of > > feeling sad, you should see that how fortunate I am that Adi Shakti > > herself is correcting me. She is taking (an) interest in me. How > > fortunate I am to be born at this time... to be with her in her Great > > Work. (Navaratri Puja - Cabella - 13 October, 1991) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > > http://uk.messenger. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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