RE : To the general public the SY message of Love is no different from any other guru

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Dear Jagbir,

 

AS you said about what I call the so called gurus, I

completely agree with you I myself

had on day a boieng 747 full( from the first class to

the last one) of followers of guru mai ( you know the

one who use to wear a red hat !), they looked happy

talking about their " guru " .. so happy to meet her in

New York.. their vibrations were I can humbly tell you

very bad, even now that I am writing to you I still

feel their catches... , their center heart completely

bloked... After the meal,a lady came to me and said

<Oh! you look so shining so kind, so... this and

that.. Come If you have the time.. I'll teach you a

few things.. <thanks I answered I am a disciple of

" Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi " oh ! What does She brings

you ? Réalisation, like you guru mai has certainly

gave you réalisation ? No, she didn't. Oh , I answered

she is the " emule " of muktananda, who spoke about

realisation and she doesn't give you ? How come? No

shedid not !.was the answear ..

Than I asked if she wanted me to put my hands towards

her and tell her what her vibrations were. She said ok

please do.. And I did.. How to explain her surprise

.... no words.. You see Jagbir, they clame to be gurus,

and give réaisation, they give nothing else than

booths..Some who can give so called réalisation, like

reiki

and so on . Can just rise the left or the right

channel, but Shri Mother is Shri Mahalakshmi , She is

The Kundalini, the center, the Tao, The Sushumna

Nadi.., Rouah,The Shekina... That's the difference,

the real difference and without any payment.

To be a little master in reiki here it cost more or

less 2500 usd.

To get my réalisation it cost me.... a lot with Mother

a lot : " a rose flower " ,

that I brought to the center for Her.-

Many people wrote me for the cassettes and the talks

of Shri Ma,I am not familiarized yet with the

computer, and if You send me your adresses I'll be

more than delighted to send them to you. While I am

wrtitiing I am listening to sahaja radio ... we have

created by Her grâce a troup " The theatre of eternal

value " TREV " Many, many things have been done in

Sahaja Yoga everywhere. And for those many things we

needed to ask permission to Mother.. Only God Knows

When and How. sometimes with our pur desir we wanted

to do so many things, but asking " The Vibrations, " we

had to wait .. for God was doing things and we knew we

could not interfere,sometimes just watch Mother's

Play, and enjoy.We could see " our " pur desir working,

As Morroccan, my dream was to see Sahja Yoga

flourishing in the country where I was born. We went

there a few years ago with the Austrians.. We tried

our best, we could not give public programmes.

And last month they went again, the french, the

english, the austrians.. They give many programms even

to Morroccan dignitaires..And it worked,

beautifully... so many réalisations.. They call now

Morroco " the garden of Allah " .You see, Jagbir the time

has come for them too.It's only when God Wants that It

works, but of course it doesn't mean just do

nothing... the pure desir was there and Our Holy

Mother Did the rest.. Shri Hanumana opened the doors

for them.

And to answear to Violet <talking about last judgment

to people.> Here some dont even beleive in God, and

when they know you are a seeker they laugh at you,

that's why we give courses of the subtil body

explaining their relation with the organs, that they

understand and slowly by slowly they come to Mother..

And there are more and more.We have to be like " the

Mother " Who chooses us " patient and loving people.

Regards. Sharmila

 

--- jagbir singh <adishakti_org a écrit :

 

> Dear Sharmila,

>

> i am just giving an example of other gurus/groups

> offering whatever

> official Sahaja Yoga is offering. We cannot

> reject/ridicule them

> because as far as seekers are concerned Sahaja Yoga

> is no different

> from other yogas. Our faith in Shri Mataji is not an

> issue here and

> neither is the way SYs praise Her in private. It is

> the unbelievable,

> unforgivable and unprecedented way Her advent and

> message has been

> suppressed in public that matters most, and the

> decades-old damage now

> becoming painfully apparent. If SYs had spread and

> explained Sahaja

> Yoga the same way Shri Mataji was doing/saying we

> would have had far

> more seekers who could easily discern the difference

> between the

> Mahayoga of the Adi Shakti and the ordinary yogas of

> hundreds of

> gurus.

>

> So which of Shri Mataji's teachings would have made

> Sahaja Yoga tower

> over all? They are the heart and soul of Sahaja Yoga

> - Last Judgment,

> Qiyamah, Holy Spirit, Adi Shakti, Comforter, Mahdi,

> Shri Lalita,

> Kingdom of God, Deity in Sahasrara, Bible, Quran,

> and the list goes

> on. These are words/topics that have almost

> disappeared from the

> lips, heart and mind of leaders and SYs. Had SYs the

> faith to declare

> all of them in public from the 70s then today

> seekers would not be

> misled by falsehood. The later cannot be faulted for

> not having the

> ability to discern truth from falsehood. The SY

> websites have never

> given seekers the truth to convince seekers to stay.

> As far as

> seekers are concerned the same subtle system yoga is

> just a mouse

> click away. So is self-realization, kundalini

> awakening, thoughtless

> awareness etc. That is why people are willing to

> participation in a

> worldwide mass awakening of the kundalini, and no

> amount of SY

> indignation will change anything. A simple

> introspection will tell us

> that false gurus and their followers claim far more

> than SYs dare

> admit about their advent and message of the Adi

> Shakti. Their

> devotees stand and shout from rooftops to advertise

> their gurus. SYs

> can hold a candle to any of them.

>

> But why is the entire organization of Sahaja Yoga

> afraid of expressing

> their faith and beliefs in public with the same

> conviction and

> thunder they have during private pujas? Why can't

> they tell newcomers

> the same truth that Shri Mataji tells complete

> strangers during

> public programs? On what basis do SYs take it upon

> themselves to

> discriminate as to whom is delivered the message of

> the Adi Shakti's

> present incarnation and by what convoluted process

> that message is

> selectively delivered? Other spiritual organizations

> do not behave in

> this dishonest way. On the contrary, they go to

> great lengths to

> proclaim loudly and openly their claims. Thus why

> should we feel

> insulted when gurus claim they can raise the

> kundalini of thousands.

> They have all the right to declare their

> convictions. After all, SYs

> have always claimed on their official sites that She

> is a great guru.

> The devotees of other gurus are saying the same too,

> including claims

> of divinity which SYs have no stomach for. The mass

> kundalini

> awakening is but an example and reminder of how

> advanced and

> confident other yoga organizations and devotees of

> gurus are, and

> have left Sahaja Yoga far behind in the dust. i am

> just explaining

> today what SYs will see tomorrow when the dust

> settles.

>

> regards,

>

>

> jagbir

>

>

> , alice

> abergel

> <lilysharmila wrote:

> >

> > Dear Jagbir,

> >

> > Jay Shri Mataji,

> >

> > I'm sorry I don't understand why you sent us this

> mail

> > about a Maha Yogi willing to give en mass

> réalisation,

> > You know only Our Holy Mother Can do that . An

> dont't

> > worry many many yogis western I don't know about

> the

> > others do Havan after Haven asking Lord Agni to

> take

> > off the veil of the seekers and non seekers of the

> > wold.

> > Any so called yogi does his best to pread Mothe'rs

> > Message, and no, no, Jagbir Mother is not

> Forgotten at

> > All , Never .We are doing our very,very best to be

> <

> > Her Hands>, with love, compassion and knowledge,

> Pure

> > Vidya,silently, but surely...

> >

> > Regards . Sharmila

> >

> >

> >

> > --- jagbir singh <adishakti_org a écrit :

> >

> > > and neither is Self-realization and Kundalini

> > > awakening. i just came

> > > across this request:

> > >

> > > SHRI SHRIGURAVE

> > > NAMAHA

> > >

> > > Param Pujya Shri Narayankaka Dhekane Maharaj

> would

> > > like to invite

> > > everyone on this earth to participate in a

> Global

> > > Introductory Trial

> > > of Mahayoga Shaktipat (Siddhayoga) for the

> uplift of

> > > all humankind.

> > > This introductory trial will be held on January

> > > 25th, 2007 from 7:06

> > > am to 7:27 am local time, and those interested

> can

> > > participate during

> > > that time at no cost from the privacy of their

> own

> > > homes. All are

> > > eligible to participate in this trial regardless

> of

> > > religion, race,

> > > sex, age, caste or creed. This world-wide trial

> can

> > > be considered to

> > > be a " trailer " or a precursor for the awakening

> of

> > > one's Kundalini

> > > Shakti (Universal Life Energy) through Shaktipat

> > > (transfer of Energy)

> > > from a Siddha Yoga Master.

> > >

> > > Here's how to participate:

> > >

> > > * At the designated time (January 25th, 2007

> from

> > > 7:06 am to 7:27am

> > > local time) sit comfortably with your eyes

> closed in

> > > a quiet location

> > > in your home. Instantly observe a wave of energy

> > > along your spinal

> > > column.

> > > * Relax your body completely in order to

> minimize

> > > the awareness of

> > > your body.

> > > * Let your mind observe your involuntary

> breathing.

> > > * Observe your experiences during the designated

> > > time interval and

> > > please report them by e-mail to P. P.

> Narayankaka

>

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