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> , " jagbir

> singh " <adishakti_org@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear All,

> >

> > For years i believed that there were more talks that Shri Mataji

> > made in the 1970s ............ although there was no evidence of

> > them. But yet this feeling persisted, enforced by a realization

> > that these were Her most awesome and mind-blowing knowledge. i

> > kept telling others that these talks, even non-existent at that

> > time, were far better and enlightening than any of the late 80s

> > and 90s.

> >

> > Last year i received about 24 GB of Shri Mataji's earliest talks

> > but did not have the time to listen. Many of these talks have not

> > been heard by SYs as they were kept quite 'secret' till recently

> > when a SY managed to make a hard copy and send it to me. (i

> > believe the SY organization is now in the process of transcribing

> > them.)

> >

> > Just a few minutes ago for the first time i listened at random to

> > a 1979 talk. i am at a loss to describe my feelings, especially

> > after hearing Her say " You have no time to waste now. This is the

> > Last Judgment " . SYs were suppossed to spread the same knowledge

> > and message to the rest of humanity, explaining to them the same

> > way Shri Mataji was doing. They were suppossed to glorify Her

> > advent and declare the Great News way back in the late 1970s. But

> > nothing happenned. Over the years it was all but forgotten. Today

> > SYs are oppossed to it!!!

> >

> > All i can say is that the damage done to Shri Mataji's Advent and

> > Message is unbelievable, unforgiveable and unprecedented. The SY

> > leadership will have to pay for their active role in suppressing

> > the Truth Shri Mataji began declaring so early. Their SYSSR is

> > but a collective corruption of Her teachings, a fitting grand

> > finale of their end after decades of dereliction of duty and

> > dharma. One day SYs will realize what really happened. Right now

> > ignorance is bliss.

> >

> > Jai Shri Mataji,

> >

> >

> > jagbir

>

>

, " Violet "

<violet.tubb wrote:

>

> Dear Jagbir,

>

> So these early talks, which a person would believe would be

> transcribed first, have been delayed by at least twenty-five years

> or so, which is as long as it takes for a generation to grow up!!!

> That explains why the new generation of Sahaja Yogis knows very

> little about the Last Judgment and Resurrection, for example, as it

> is not generally taught in Sahaja Yoga now. And it seems that

> those 'with the say and the sway'... did not believe it important

> enough to inculcate in the younger generation either. So these have

> grown up, ignorant to a lot of what Shri Mataji unequivocally gave

> in the late 1970's to the early Sahaja Yogis!

>

> What are they all going to do now, when these tapes are finally

> transcribed and made known to the younger generation... now grown

> up? What are they going to make of it, when they realise that

> knowledge which Shri Mataji considered vitally important... is

> information that has been kept secret/hidden away from them? Surely

> this must be a 'time bomb ticking away' for WCASY et al?

>

> i mean... will it not show them up to have been derelict in their

> duty to the Adi Shakti? After all, the leaders had 'their way and

> sway' with the Sahaja Yogis in regards to what SYs could tell and

> what they could not tell, while Shri Mataji said all along to " TELL

> IT!!! " What if this job is not done by 2012? Won't it be a bit

> late? i mean in the late 1970's Shri Mataji said there was not much

> time left.

>

> violet

>

 

 

Dear Violet and All,

 

We are trying here to re-establish faith in God Almighty and His

Divine Message to humanity delivered by the incarnation of His Shakti

Shri Mataji, and not the petty subtle system that 1001 gurus are

peddling too. There is nothing to be concerned as to whether the SY

leaders/organization will do the same by 2012. You should realize

that the pen is a mighty weapon, the Truth far more. A single SY

armed with both can do more in a year than what the entire SY

organization accomplish in a decade. The reason is that, unlike them,

you are using the awesome potential of both pen and Truth. While they

are scribbling subtle system notes for stress relief you are doing

entire essays on the Last Judgment. While they are externally

experimenting with petty treatments you are explaining in detail how

the Spirit within wholesomely heals mind, body and spirit. While they

are justifying phantasm and deceit to explain about Shri Mataji you

are openly declaring the plain truth about Her advent and message.

Thus there should be absolutely no room for failure or cause for

concern because Truth has its own innate potential to destroy all

obstacles and negativity and reach into the hearts and minds of

humanity. Truth is divinity itself. So protect it at all times, cost

and personal sacrifice.

 

So even if the SY rank and file does not want to help, you just keep

working with a single-minded purpose to stand on the Truth and

declare it. It does not matter at all how SY leaders/organization

feel. Truth will overcome all the obstacles placed by them to

suppress Shri Mataji's Divine Message. If you are chosen to become

Her instrument then never falter in this blessed task. One day She

will triumph and we look forward to 2012/13 as the excitement is

slowly building up. This time we will be fully prepared for the

future global interest, whether the SY organization is willing or not.

That is why the end of www.adishakti.org homepage reads:

 

Note: Except for quotes of Her incarnation Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

this site is almost entirely about the Divine Feminine (Shakti/Holy

Spirit/Ruh/Tao/Mother) within all humans. Those wishing to take part

in the Last Judgment and Resurrection will learn to meditate on the

Divine Feminine within themselves. Absolutely no external rituals or

worshipping of images or any monetary payment whatsoever is required.

There is no hidden agenda. This site contains all the knowledge and

evidence required to re-establish the faith, belief and conviction in

the Divine and Afterlife - 2000 pages and counting. Thus, unless

desired, there is no need to join any Sahaja Yoga organization. In

fact you will progress faster and further by being your own master,

without any human intermediary between you and the Divine. Self-

realization is, after all, an internal spiritual quest to attain the

eternal afterlife by meditating on the Divine Feminine and purifying

mind, body and soul. Spirituality can not be legislated or

manipulated externally.

 

We are evolving and the daily experience of Cool Breeze (Rûach, Chi,

Ki, Prana, Ruh, Pneuma, Spiritus) is evidence of the promised

spiritual evolution backed by the holy scriptures! So get in touch

with the truth of your being. Live consciously and mindfully. Release

yourself from negative cultural conditioning and regain a clearer

perspective concerning the spiritual potential of humankind. Let go

of all worldly cares and concerns and experience the bliss of being

here. Meditate on your own everlasting Self within and learn to live

conscientiously in the eternal present. The promised Golden Age of

the Spirit has arrived!

 

http://adishakti.org/

 

 

You asked: " What if this job is not done by 2012? Won't it be a bit

late? " Answer: We are at the earliest dawn of the Golden Age of the

Spirit. i am sure my grandchildren will be fine and have nothing to

worry. Shri Mataji's plea in those early years was that Her message

be spread with a sense of great urgency and utmost responsibility

while She is still around to help propagate it. She had everything

set up for the pieces of the spiritual puzzle to fall perfectly in

place at the appointed time. The only problem was that the so-called

leaders were not happy the way Shri Mataji wanted the pieces to be

placed. We are now helping Her to again place the pieces the way She

wanted all along so that others can admire it. i am sure we are at

the earliest dawn of the Golden Age of the Spirit. Why is that? -

Shri Mataji is withdrawing Her external, physical incarnation and

revealing Her internal, eternal Self for all future generations. She

will eventually triumph and 2012/13 will be the starting point of Her

ascend into the hearts and minds of humanity! So devote all your tan,

man, dhan (body, mind, wealth) to ensure Her victory!

 

Jai Ganapathy,

 

 

jagbir

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> > , " jagbir

> > singh " <adishakti_org@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear All,

> > >

> > > For years i believed that there were more talks that Shri Mataji

> > > made in the 1970s ............ although there was no evidence of

> > > them. But yet this feeling persisted, enforced by a realization

> > > that these were Her most awesome and mind-blowing knowledge. i

> > > kept telling others that these talks, even non-existent at that

> > > time, were far better and enlightening than any of the late 80s

> > > and 90s.

> > >

> > > Last year i received about 24 GB of Shri Mataji's earliest talks

> > > but did not have the time to listen. Many of these talks have

not

> > > been heard by SYs as they were kept quite 'secret' till recently

> > > when a SY managed to make a hard copy and send it to me. (i

> > > believe the SY organization is now in the process of

transcribing

> > > them.)

> > >

> > > Just a few minutes ago for the first time i listened at random

to

> > > a 1979 talk. i am at a loss to describe my feelings, especially

> > > after hearing Her say " You have no time to waste now. This is

the

> > > Last Judgment " . SYs were suppossed to spread the same knowledge

> > > and message to the rest of humanity, explaining to them the same

> > > way Shri Mataji was doing. They were suppossed to glorify Her

> > > advent and declare the Great News way back in the late 1970s.

But

> > > nothing happenned. Over the years it was all but forgotten.

Today

> > > SYs are oppossed to it!!!

> > >

> > > All i can say is that the damage done to Shri Mataji's Advent

and

> > > Message is unbelievable, unforgiveable and unprecedented. The SY

> > > leadership will have to pay for their active role in suppressing

> > > the Truth Shri Mataji began declaring so early. Their SYSSR is

> > > but a collective corruption of Her teachings, a fitting grand

> > > finale of their end after decades of dereliction of duty and

> > > dharma. One day SYs will realize what really happened. Right now

> > > ignorance is bliss.

> > >

> > > Jai Shri Mataji,

> > >

> > >

> > > jagbir

> >

> >

> , " Violet "

> <violet.tubb@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Jagbir,

> >

> > So these early talks, which a person would believe would be

> > transcribed first, have been delayed by at least twenty-five years

> > or so, which is as long as it takes for a generation to grow up!!!

> > That explains why the new generation of Sahaja Yogis knows very

> > little about the Last Judgment and Resurrection, for example, as

it

> > is not generally taught in Sahaja Yoga now. And it seems that

> > those 'with the say and the sway'... did not believe it important

> > enough to inculcate in the younger generation either. So these

have

> > grown up, ignorant to a lot of what Shri Mataji unequivocally gave

> > in the late 1970's to the early Sahaja Yogis!

> >

> > What are they all going to do now, when these tapes are finally

> > transcribed and made known to the younger generation... now grown

> > up? What are they going to make of it, when they realise that

> > knowledge which Shri Mataji considered vitally important... is

> > information that has been kept secret/hidden away from them?

Surely

> > this must be a 'time bomb ticking away' for WCASY et al?

> >

> > i mean... will it not show them up to have been derelict in their

> > duty to the Adi Shakti? After all, the leaders had 'their way and

> > sway' with the Sahaja Yogis in regards to what SYs could tell and

> > what they could not tell, while Shri Mataji said all along to

" TELL

> > IT!!! " What if this job is not done by 2012? Won't it be a bit

> > late? i mean in the late 1970's Shri Mataji said there was not

much

> > time left.

> >

> > violet

> >

>

>

> Dear Violet and All,

>

> We are trying here to re-establish faith in God Almighty and His

> Divine Message to humanity delivered by the incarnation of His

Shakti

> Shri Mataji, and not the petty subtle system that 1001 gurus are

> peddling too. There is nothing to be concerned as to whether the SY

> leaders/organization will do the same by 2012. You should realize

> that the pen is a mighty weapon, the Truth far more. A single SY

> armed with both can do more in a year than what the entire SY

> organization accomplish in a decade. The reason is that, unlike

them,

> you are using the awesome potential of both pen and Truth. While

they

> are scribbling subtle system notes for stress relief you are doing

> entire essays on the Last Judgment. While they are externally

> experimenting with petty treatments you are explaining in detail how

> the Spirit within wholesomely heals mind, body and spirit. While

they

> are justifying phantasm and deceit to explain about Shri Mataji you

> are openly declaring the plain truth about Her advent and message.

> Thus there should be absolutely no room for failure or cause for

> concern because Truth has its own innate potential to destroy all

> obstacles and negativity and reach into the hearts and minds of

> humanity. Truth is divinity itself. So protect it at all times, cost

> and personal sacrifice.

>

> So even if the SY rank and file does not want to help, you just keep

> working with a single-minded purpose to stand on the Truth and

> declare it. It does not matter at all how SY leaders/organization

> feel. Truth will overcome all the obstacles placed by them to

> suppress Shri Mataji's Divine Message. If you are chosen to become

> Her instrument then never falter in this blessed task. One day She

> will triumph and we look forward to 2012/13 as the excitement is

> slowly building up. This time we will be fully prepared for the

> future global interest, whether the SY organization is willing or

not.

> That is why the end of www.adishakti.org homepage reads:

>

> Note: Except for quotes of Her incarnation Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> this site is almost entirely about the Divine Feminine (Shakti/Holy

> Spirit/Ruh/Tao/Mother) within all humans. Those wishing to take part

> in the Last Judgment and Resurrection will learn to meditate on the

> Divine Feminine within themselves. Absolutely no external rituals or

> worshipping of images or any monetary payment whatsoever is

required.

> There is no hidden agenda. This site contains all the knowledge and

> evidence required to re-establish the faith, belief and conviction

in

> the Divine and Afterlife - 2000 pages and counting. Thus, unless

> desired, there is no need to join any Sahaja Yoga organization. In

> fact you will progress faster and further by being your own master,

> without any human intermediary between you and the Divine. Self-

> realization is, after all, an internal spiritual quest to attain the

> eternal afterlife by meditating on the Divine Feminine and purifying

> mind, body and soul. Spirituality can not be legislated or

> manipulated externally.

>

> We are evolving and the daily experience of Cool Breeze (Rûach, Chi,

> Ki, Prana, Ruh, Pneuma, Spiritus) is evidence of the promised

> spiritual evolution backed by the holy scriptures! So get in touch

> with the truth of your being. Live consciously and mindfully.

Release

> yourself from negative cultural conditioning and regain a clearer

> perspective concerning the spiritual potential of humankind. Let go

> of all worldly cares and concerns and experience the bliss of being

> here. Meditate on your own everlasting Self within and learn to live

> conscientiously in the eternal present. The promised Golden Age of

> the Spirit has arrived!

>

> http://adishakti.org/

>

>

> You asked: " What if this job is not done by 2012? Won't it be a bit

> late? " Answer: We are at the earliest dawn of the Golden Age of the

> Spirit. i am sure my grandchildren will be fine and have nothing to

> worry. Shri Mataji's plea in those early years was that Her message

> be spread with a sense of great urgency and utmost responsibility

> while She is still around to help propagate it. She had everything

> set up for the pieces of the spiritual puzzle to fall perfectly in

> place at the appointed time. The only problem was that the so-called

> leaders were not happy the way Shri Mataji wanted the pieces to be

> placed. We are now helping Her to again place the pieces the way She

> wanted all along so that others can admire it. i am sure we are at

> the earliest dawn of the Golden Age of the Spirit. Why is that? -

> Shri Mataji is withdrawing Her external, physical incarnation and

> revealing Her internal, eternal Self for all future generations. She

> will eventually triumph and 2012/13 will be the starting point of

Her

> ascend into the hearts and minds of humanity! So devote all your

tan,

> man, dhan (body, mind, wealth) to ensure Her victory!

>

> Jai Ganapathy,

>

>

> jagbir

 

 

, " jagbir

singh " <adishakti_org wrote:

 

Dear Violet and All,

 

We are trying here to re-establish faith in God Almighty and His

Divine Message to humanity delivered by the incarnation of His Shakti

Shri Mataji, and not the petty subtle system that 1001 gurus are

peddling too.

 

(There is no doubt about that, Jagbir.)

 

There is nothing to be concerned as to whether the SY leaders/

organization will do the same by 2012.

 

(This is reasurring.)

 

You should realize that the pen is a mighty weapon, the Truth far

more. A single SY armed with both can do more in a year than what the

entire SY organization accomplish in a decade.

 

(i believe that too).

 

The reason is that, unlike them, you are using the awesome potential

of both pen and Truth. While they are scribbling subtle system notes

for stress relief you are doing entire essays on the Last Judgment.

 

(There is a difference between subtle system notes for stress relief and entire

essays on the Last Judgment.)

 

While they are externally experimenting with petty treatments you are

explaining in detail how the Spirit within wholesomely heals mind,

body and spirit.

 

(The subtle system approach as given by the SYSSR (Sahaja Yoga Subtle System

Religion) makes it seem like it is all to do with moving chakras with hands...

when it is much more wholistic than that. If you read closely Shri Mataji's

'givens'... She says the same. The healing is wholistic. Shri Mataji did not

want to be a " healing agency " where people are not interested in their Spirit,

although She likes helping people. However, She said as far as these people who

are only after healing is concerned... that they are useless for Sahaja Yoga!!!)

 

While they are justifying phantasm and deceit to explain about Shri Mataji you

are openly declaring the plain truth about Her advent and message.

 

(i looked up the word " phantasm " because i was not sure what it really meant.

The dictionary defines " phantasm " as " a vain, airy appearance; a fancied

vision " . i understand what deceit is. It is pretending to be one thing, when you

are actually something else. That's one way of saying it anyway. So put

together, you are saying that rather than declaring Her Message in Plain Truth

regarding Her Advent and Message... that they are justifying using 'a vain, airy

appearance; a fancied vision' and not telling the Plain Truth along with it.)

 

Thus there should be absolutely no room for failure or cause for

concern because Truth has its own innate potential to destroy all

obstacles and negativity and reach into the hearts and minds of

humanity. Truth is divinity itself. So protect it at all times, cost

and personal sacrifice.

 

(Jagbir, this is true... that Truth has its own innate potential to destroy all

obstacles and negativity, and reach into the hearts and minds of humanity. The

human Spirit " knows " Truth when it hears it. There is something special about

Truth, that cannot be faked. The spiritual resonance is only in the Truth. It is

not in that which is not the Truth. It has to be protected... the Truth that

Shri Mataji has given... folks.)

 

So even if the SY rank and file does not want to help, you just keep

working with a single-minded purpose to stand on the Truth and

declare it. It does not matter at all how SY leaders/organization

feel.

 

(i couldn't agree more. There is a joy in knowing this... and a peace that

cannot be comprehended by the mind!)

 

Truth will overcome all the obstacles placed by them to suppress Shri Mataji's

Divine Message. If you are chosen to become Her instrument then never falter in

this blessed task. One day She will triumph and we look forward to 2012/13 as

the excitement is slowly building up. This time we will be fully prepared for

the future global interest, whether the SY organization is willing or not. That

is why the end of www.adishakti.org homepage reads:

 

Note: Except for quotes of Her incarnation Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

this site is almost entirely about the Divine Feminine (Shakti/Holy

Spirit/Ruh/Tao/Mother) within all humans. Those wishing to take part

in the Last Judgment and Resurrection will learn to meditate on the

Divine Feminine within themselves. Absolutely no external rituals or

worshipping of images or any monetary payment whatsoever is required.

There is no hidden agenda. This site contains all the knowledge and

evidence required to re-establish the faith, belief and conviction in

the Divine and Afterlife - 2000 pages and counting. Thus, unless

desired, there is no need to join any Sahaja Yoga organization. In

fact you will progress faster and further by being your own master,

without any human intermediary between you and the Divine. Self-

realization is, after all, an internal spiritual quest to attain the

eternal afterlife by meditating on the Divine Feminine and purifying

mind, body and soul. Spirituality can not be legislated or

manipulated externally.

 

(This is true that " we will progress faster and further by being our own master,

without any human intermediary between our Self and the Divine. " Any human

intermediaries always help to bring interference in this relationship. History

has proven that!)

 

We are evolving and the daily experience of Cool Breeze (Rûach, Chi,

Ki, Prana, Ruh, Pneuma, Spiritus) is evidence of the promised

spiritual evolution backed by the holy scriptures! So get in touch

with the truth of your being. Live consciously and mindfully. Release

yourself from negative cultural conditioning and regain a clearer

perspective concerning the spiritual potential of humankind. Let go

of all worldly cares and concerns and experience the bliss of being

here. Meditate on your own everlasting Self within and learn to live

conscientiously in the eternal present. The promised Golden Age of

the Spirit has arrived!

 

(Very beautiful words indeed, Jagbir!)

 

http://adishakti.org/

 

You asked: " What if this job is not done by 2012? Won't it be a bit

late? " Answer: We are at the earliest dawn of the Golden Age of the

Spirit. i am sure my grandchildren will be fine and have nothing to

worry. Shri Mataji's plea in those early years was that Her message

be spread with a sense of great urgency and utmost responsibility

while She is still around to help propagate it.

 

(I see... to " get it off the ground " . She wanted to get the momentum going.)

 

She had everything set up for the pieces of the spiritual puzzle to fall

perfectly in place at the appointed time. The only problem was that the

so-called leaders were not happy the way Shri Mataji wanted the pieces to be

placed.

 

(Ah, yes... i do believe i am 'getting your drift', Jagbir. They were not too

happy about those " special children " from " Montreal, Canada " ... were they???!!!

It seems that the leaders, etc. did not like it when the Paramchaitanya

organised some things outside of their jurisdiction? Very interesting... that

is!!! They love to have, and even enforce others to follow their 'organised

efforts' but don't like it at all when the Paramchaitanya also organises efforts

and they choose not to recognise those efforts!!! Very interesting indeed!!!)

 

We are now helping Her to again place the pieces the way She wanted all along so

that others can admire it. i am sure we are at the earliest dawn of the Golden

Age of the Spirit. Why is that? - Shri Mataji is withdrawing Her external,

physical incarnation and revealing Her internal, eternal Self for all future

generations. She will eventually triumph and 2012/13 will be the starting point

of Her ascend into the hearts and minds of humanity! So devote all your tan,

man, dhan (body, mind, wealth) to ensure Her victory!

 

Jai Ganapathy,

 

jagbir

 

 

(Thank you Jagbir. What you say is most heartening indeed for all of us who just

want to do that)

 

Jai Shri Mataji,

 

violet

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