Guest guest Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 Dear All, Appended is an email from Mr. David Spiro, that according to our source is allegedly written by his wife, Mrs. Spiro. i have no trouble believing that is the case, because in my experience it is unusual for a man to write with such detail, and the feel of the letter is quite feminine. In any case, as a SY, Mrs. Spiro is just as responsible for allegedly writing the letter, and i therefore choose to respond to her. Firstly, here is Xxxxxxx's letter to Jagbir, explaining about the letter written by an anonymous Sahaj doctor (whom we now know is Jagbir's " eternal brother " )(/message/7264) and of whose letter, the Spiros express concern: Dear Jagbir, In the summer of 2006, a letter written by an anonymous Sahaj doctor, was circulated and mailed to over 100 SYs throughout the world. In it he expressed his concern with Shri Mataji's health and the drug that was administered to her. Below is a backlash (more a cover-up) by the leaders in response to the doctor's letter. I can understand that the doctor did not want to disclose his name, otherwise he will be attacked like the rest. I was informed from some sources that some leaders encouraged the SYs to burn the doctor's letter as well as the letter handwritten by Shri Mataji, saying it is a forgery. Obviously this is not the case, as you can see in the last attachment I sent you. Regards, Xxxxxxx (/message/7263) So folks, here then is the response that i feel i need to make. i consider Jagbir's " eternal brother " to be my spiritual brother also. Those Sahaja Yogis who through their dedication to the Adi Shakti, are due the respect, should be given the respect they deserve, instead of being villified and denounced with false allegations. Neither can we sit idly by, while WCASY et al make a " mockery " of what Shri Mataji has written, by calling it a " forgery " . This is unprecedented in the annals of spiritual history, especially when there is ample opportunity to clear up any confusion through the services of an Independent Handwriting Analyst. But i don't think WCASY et al are up to that, just as they are not up to telling the Last Judgment and Resurrection Message upfront, and just as they are not up to revealing Shri Mataji's Identity as the Adi Shakti upfront either. violet Introducing the " Spiro Email " ... Dear, This is the previous email from Spiro written by his wife in respond to the letter written by an anonymous doctor. (/message/7263) " Spiro Email " with my response to Mrs. Spiro (the alleged writer)... >> " David Spiro " <dms >>David Spiro <dms >><sahajnet >>[sahajnet] anonymous letter >>Tue, 1 Aug 2006 20:52:34 +0100 Dear Brothers and Sisters, 1st August 2006 Mrs. Spiro: Some of the members of the UKCASY, along it seems with many others, have received copies of a letter addressed to " All the Sahaja Yogis of the World " . It says that it is sent by somebody who claims to be a " sahaja yogi " who is also a " practising medical doctor " . The apparent " signature " is nothing but an illegible scribble. There is no letterhead. There is no address and there is no name. It says " Visiting Doctor from abroad. From where? And who is he visiting? And where is he? The letter is addressed to " All the Sahaja Yogis of the World " . Can anyone explain where is " abroad " from " All of the World " . Mars maybe? Violet: For a start, my assumption is that it would have been an anonymous letter, for a very good reason, and this is that WCASY et al have already shown by their actions and behaviour, that they are more interested in suppressing the Truth, than in upholding the Truth, and that they will employ all sorts of tactics to " manage " the truth to suit themselves. Under those circumstances, it is sensible and logical to say the Truth, without revealing who you are. After all, it can be found out if the 'anonymous person' is actually telling the Truth, or not. All you have to do, is check the facts, see what is happening, and do that from a " firsthand basis " , as this doctor has done. Mrs. Spiro: Actually; this is nothing other than a very nasty (and somewhat idiotic) anonymous " poison pen " letter, which is an insult to the intelligence of everybody who has to read it. Violet: This person who sent the letter is a Sahaja Yogi and a practising Medical Doctor, who actually personally attended to Shri Mataji, and therefore would have known " firsthand " the facts of the situation with regard to Shri Mataji. He obviously had major concerns, and therefore sent 100 letters or so (according to Xxxxxxx's email) bringing his concerns to the attention of leaders and others, who would be in a position to address those concerns. Also, as a Sahaja Yogi Doctor who has personally attended to Shri Mataji, and who is not in the Clutches of WCASY, he therefore has no ulterior motive or vested interest that prevents him from telling it " like it is " , and therefore it would behoove us to listen to what he has to say. Mrs. Spiro: 1) Whatever the motive for writing this letter might be it is certainly not love, care or concern for Shri Mataji or Her health. No genuine Sahaj Yogi, never mind a doctor, who felt genuinely concerned would ever behave in such an absurd, foolish, underhand and malicious way - and nor would there be any reason for them to do so. Violet: It might totally surprise you that you are totally wrong in your assumptions. As i have already stated, this SY doctor has lovingly attended to Shri Mataji. i know that he has the highest motives, and i also know that he has the utmost esteem, love, care, and concern for Shri Mataji and Her health. In case you don't know by now, WCASY et al have acted and spoken in so many ways that goes against what Shri Mataji requested, pleaded, taught, and wrote. In reality, they have gone against the Dharma, and are now being exposed. If you don't like that, it does not matter. Only the Truth will stand in the end. The Truth cannot remain hidden in this Last Judgment and Resurrection Time. Mrs. Spiro: 2) There is a shabby photocopy attached to it, which the writer claims was written by Shri Mataji in 1998. Violet: i looked up the word " shabby " in my dictionary. The closest meaning that i found for the way you use the word " shabby " is: " mean in look or conduct " . The doctor sent you a photocopy of what Shri Mataji wrote in 1998, regarding concerns for Her future Wellbeing with regard to Sahaja Yogis and with regard to Her family. Since the significant document is therefore nine (9) years old, its copy will also show its age. However, the photocopy paper itself would not have tattered edges, as it would be new photocopy paper. Therefore, i can only conclude that you must be referring to Shri Mataji's Handwritten Explicit Instructions themselves... " as shabby " . Mrs. Spiro: Mother Herself already declared this to be a forgery when it was first going around more than a year ago. Violet: You know... it is really a serious allegation to call an authentic document a " forgery " . We know it is not a forgery. Jagbir has checked it out, and so have other Sahaja Yogis. So if Mother Herself allegedly declared it to be a forgery, why did She not " say so " Herself, in Public and in front of all the Sahaja Yogis? You just cannot put Words into Her Mouth and claim what She never said Herself. Mrs. Spiro: 3) It so happens that there are four genuine medical doctors on the UKCASY. We can assure you that the allegation that Shri Mataji is " currently being given psychotropic medication " is absolutely false. Violet: As i have not read the letter, i cannot reply to that. Mrs. Spiro: 4) Happily, all of us here, and in all the other countries She has been visiting as well, have enjoyed seeing that Mother's health is very much better and that it continues to improve. She does get tired sometimes, with all the travelling and constantly working things out for all of us, but She is over 83 years old. We know how much (although maybe we can never really know how much), She has done for everybody over all the years. Nobody has the right to criticise Her for that. It is really absurd that these poisonous allegations are doing the rounds again. Violet: This Sahaja Yogi doctor is looking after the best interests of Shri Mataji, as Shri Mataji requested in Her Letter, which you wrongly call a " forgery " . The point is (and lets do stick to the point)... that Shri Mataji's Wishes, as per Her Letter, are not being followed. The criticism is therefore directed at WCASY et al, and not at Shri Mataji. You are clouding the issue, by insinuating that somehow the Letter of this concerned SY doctor is criticizing Shri Mataji. That is a very clever manipulative technique to defuse and draw the attention of Sahaja Yogis away from the real issue, which WCASY et al, obviously do not want to face " head on " by just getting a Handwriting Analyst. At least give Shri Mataji the benefit of the doubt. To me, it looks exactly like Shri Mataji's Handwriting. It is immediately recognisable, and i would say, most difficult to forge also, just like the Mahamaya She is! Of course, i admit that what She has written is somewhat shocking, but not too surprising... given all that has happened in regards to the grab for Power, and Prestige of WCASY et al. Mrs. Spiro: At last year's Shri Adi Shakti Puja in Cabella, many U.K. Sahaj Yogis saw a letter circulated by some Italian city leaders. Although he was too clever to put his name to the letter it was clear even then that sadly it was Guido who was the leader of that movement. This new letter is just absolutely a crude rehash of that one, but we have no reason to believe that it is anything to do with Guido, and it is very possible that it might not have been written by a Sahaja Yogi at all. Somebody has got hold of what seems to have been a partial and rather out-of-date U.K. address list to use for us here. Violet: As i have said before, all it takes is a Handwriting Analysis, instead of all this anguish, which is absolutely devastating, and should never have happened. Shri Mataji's Letter should never have been declared a " forgery " without a Handwriting Analyst confirming that Publicly and Officially. Perhaps, this can still be solved, and some sense be brought into it all. Mrs. Spiro: In essence the ludicrous and vicious allegation made then (which it is horrible to have to repeat) was that Sir CP and other members of Shri Mataji's family were poisoning Her with the connivance of the doctors, and with financial motives at heart. Violet: If Shri Mataji says that strong medications are not good for Her, then " strong medications are not good for Her " . Maybe they do poison Her System. i don't think that means that family members are actually " poisoning Her " . i would not say it that way, as you are saying it. However, you do have to take into consideration also, that wherever there is power, prestige, and money to be had, then things can become complicated. There is often a struggle. Shri Mataji warned about that in regards to leaders. Shri Mataji does not warn about something, without a reason. In fact, to date, WCASY et al have already revealed their ambitions for power, by declaring to SYs that they are now " the Will of the Adi Shakti " . That is like declaring " Absolute Power " . Therefore, this does not bode well at all for WCASY, and therefore it is not surprising that SYs are becoming mightily distrustful of WCASY et al. For that reason, it would be in everyone's best interest and for the interests of the Kingdom of God on Earth, that Shri Mataji's Letter be checked by an expert independent Handwriting Analyst. That would settle everything then. If people are not happy with Her Letter, it does not matter. In any case, what is the problem with Her Letter really anyway? Why can't Her Wishes be adhered to? Surely, Her Wishes should be respected. Mrs. Spiro: Everybody knows that Shri Mataji's family have always been financially generous in the extreme. To take just one of several examples they themselves contributed more than half towards the purchase price of Shri Mataji's birthplace in Chhindwara which is being given to Sahaja Yoga. Their love and kindness all around is legendary. And it has always been an inspiration for all of us to see the genuine closeness, caring, good humour, love and understanding, and affectionate concern between Mother and all Her family. It is a wonderful example of all that is highest and most joy-giving in family life. Added to that we have all seen and felt all the love and generosity shown to all of us, all around the world, as if we really are all one big family. Violet: Shri Mataji's genuine closeness with Her family is not in question here, and never was, as far as i know. i also don't think anyone is questioning the generosity of Her family either. You must remember, however, that Shri Mataji is the Incarnation of the Adi Shakti, and as such, She is the Spiritual Mother of a very large family indeed. She has done Her Job in regards to Her Mission and Message. She created Sahaja Yoga, and now power brokers have taken over Sahaja Yoga and Sahaja Yogis, exactly in the way that Shri Mataji deplored. Once the ambitions are there for such worldy things, these power brokers just cannot be trusted anymore. Nobody knows that better than Shri Mataji. That is why She had to write the letter, or perhaps you do not grasp the intricacy of the situation. Mrs. Spiro: Sir C.P. Srivastava, who is now in his 87th year, has wholeheartedly and with absolute kindness and generosity devoted himself to helping Shri Mataji and to helping us in every way he can. We in the U.K. have had more opportunity than most to enjoy being part of all this for nearly thirty years. Moreover, Sir C.P., who was for many years one of the Secretary Generals of the United Nations, has throughout his life been held in the highest esteem the world over for his own outstanding contributions to Mankind. Many nations have bestowed upon him their highest honours, recognising him to be a great and remarkable humanitarian - a man who has given his lifetime for others, spanning the worlds of both extraordinary intellectual prowess and also of great humane concern. He is also the renowned author of several important academic works. Here in England, he was knighted KCMG by Her Majesty the Queen, and India, the place of his birth, bestowed upon him its most coveted and prestigious Shastri Prize. A gentleman of such integrity, dignity and honour, he has been not only unimaginably generous with his own resources, time, patience and understanding bestowed upon thousands of us, but he has also been so generous over all the decades in sacrificing so much private personal time with his Beloved Wife of nearly sixty years. The same can be said of Shri Mataji's two outstandingly beautiful, wise, caring, loving and compassionate daughters and their lovely families too, the sons-in-law and the adored grandchildren and great-grandchildren. They have absolutely and joyfully opened their arms and their hearts to all the Sahaja Yogis of the world, no matter who they may be or from where they might come, who call their Beloved Mummy as " Mother " . Violet: This is a nice Tribute to Sir C.P. and Shri Mataji's family, and i agree they must be nice people, but they are not Devotees of the Adi Shakti. This much is clear to Her Devotees. The only member of Shri Mataji's family that was a devotee, was Her brother, BabaMama. It is unbelievable that in their worldly lust for power, prestige (and perhaps even money) that WCASY have raised Shri Mataji's family members, who are not even Her Devotees to the status and special treatment due an Incarnation of the Adi Shakti. It is unbelievable to witness, and makes me feel ill, as another SY has also expressed. Shri Mataji never ever said that any of Her family members were incarnations. Therefore, they are not. If they were, She would have said so! Mrs. Spiro: To make such absurd and despicable allegations against them and to carry on in this stupid and ridiculous fashion really beggars belief and is beneath contempt. Who could have imagined such a thing? What has been so remarkable is the way in which Shri Mataji, Sir C.P. and all the family have been so forgiving, and of course most of our Italian Brothers and Sisters who got a bit involved have realised that they just got caught up in a moment of madness. They have done everything they can to show how sorry they are, and out of love for them Mother and the family all went back to Italy, and this year's Guru Puja in Cabella was wonderful again. Violet: The reason you can even say this, is because you are not realising what is really going on, nor what is at stake. It is true that often those 'closest to the throne'... as it were... are usually kept in the dark. You are showing your ignorance of what is really happening. You may think you know what is happening externally and outwardly, but you show your ignorance of what is happening internally and in " connection " with the Divine Within. There is much much more to this than meets your physical eye. i can also inform you that, whatever your opinion may be about the SY doctor that wrote this letter, you are not understanding nor realising the actual Truth of the concerns he is raising. Mrs. Spiro: It has sadly become very clear over the past year that Guido had his own motives for starting all of this in the first place. It all started when Mother formed the World Council. He was always dead against it and refused to join his brothers and sisters from around the world to try to work together, although of course he had been invited to be on the Council right from the start. For some time he had also been dead against the family, and he resented the way in which Shri Mataji has always been naturally so close to them all. People had noticed that he had never had a job, and that he was living off Sahaja Yoga. Although we had all been fond of him for years, some people said that installed in Rome Ashram he had gradually taken to living like an Emperor, and he was determined that only he should remain in complete and absolute control of everybody and everything. The World Council together were supposed to look at all the accounts of the School (which was for children from all over the world), etc and see how everything was run, and his position of complete power ( and abuse of that power) would have to come to an end. Violet: i had only heard of good things in regards to Guido before the Formation of the World Council debacle. If that formation was when all Shri Mataji said was " Of course " ... then i have to say that i have very grave concern about that also. If Shri Mataji could really speak, She could have said something, other than " Of Course " and then made to sign documents, which i doubt in Her state She knew what She was actually signing. Maybe, that is why Guido was against the formation of the World Council, because maybe it was done underhandedly, without the Real Consent of Shri Mataji. Because, it seems that from the time that Letter of Shri Mataji appeared that is when Guido was villified. i only heard good things about Guido before that time, so i don't really believe any allegations against him since... really. i did at first, but the more time goes by, i am inclined to disbelieve the allegations against Guido, because things are just not " adding up " all over the place, especially in regards to WCASY et al, and their hunger for Power, Prestige, and i don't know anything about the Money for now. The thing is... " All of a sudden it is noticed that Guido does not have a job " . i mean... nothing like knocking down a man, when he has 'allegedly' done something completely unrelated to 'not working at an official job'. Words to the effect of " abuse of power " and " position of complete power " describe WCASY to a " T " . To me, this is just a case of " the Pot calling the Kettle Black " . Mrs. Spiro: The shabby photocopy letter that Mother denounced a year ago first surfaced in Australia, where somebody else (who has since similarly been asked to step down), was again in complete control, was making a lot of mistakes harming the collective, and had similar motives. So to sum up, this whole thing is an old story and the wounds and problems which were caused when it all started are healing. Violet: For a start, i take exception to a Photocopy of Shri Mataji's Letter being described as " shabby " . Until you prove that Shri Mataji's Handwritten Letter is a " forgery " , it is " authentic " . When you get it checked by a Handwriting Analyst, you will discover that it is " authentic " through and through. It is interesting how this authentic Letter of Shri Mataji is causing so many ripples that affect WCASY et al. Anybody, who declares the " same " (that Shri Mataji's Handwritten Letter is Authentic) seems to then... all of a sudden.... suffer from " complete control syndrome " , " making a lot of mistakes in the collective " , and " other similar motives " you like to attribute, but these were never picked up on before they also stated that Shri Mataji's Letter is authentic. This is therefore a very interesting correlation, wouldn't you say so too? In regards to " wounds and problems " i can assure you that this particular 'wound' that has become a thorn in the flesh of WCASY et al... cannot ever be healed until we arrive at the source of the wound, and cleanse it. The only way to do that, is to get Shri Mataji's Handwritten Letter confirmed as " authentic " by a Handwriting Analyst, but it seems to me that WCASY et al, don't want to do that... so they will just have to suffer with a recurring wound then, won't they? Healing only comes with the Absolute Truth. Mrs. Spiro: " There is no evidence to suggest and no reason to believe that the person who wrote this letter is a doctor or a genuine Sahaja Yogi at all, in fact, most probably neither. (They even spell the word " Goddess " wrong). Hopefully not too many people will have been disturbed by this feeble attempt to reopen old wounds. Violet: Let there be " no doubt " that the person who wrote this letter is a doctor and a genuine Sahaja Yogi, and spelling the word 'Goddess " wrong does not make him a non-SY and a non-doctor. In fact he is a very esteemed doctor in his country, and an honest genuine, straight spoken Sahaja Yogi, of a caliber that is beyond the whole WCASY et al combined. If you are telling the Truth, and only accepting the Truth, there is nothing that can disturb a Sahaja Yogi... by the way. This was also not a " feeble " attempt as you call it; it was a " courageous speaking of the Truth " of a Devotee of the Adi Shakti Herself, and who defends Her Right to have Her Wishes as expressed in Her Handwritten Letter.. upheld. Mrs. Spiro: Fortunately it is easy to make out that it is not genuine. Violet: How so? No amount of convincing yourself otherwise, will satisfy you, if it is not the Truth. Only the Absolute Truth will satisfy you. i know that you do not know it, because i know this person. Therefore, i know what you are saying about him, is not the Truth. Mrs. Spiro: Not everybody gets to see Sahajnet, whereas the other thing was painstakingly sent out by post. Violet: His letter would not even have been approved by Sahajnet. And that is why he obviously " painstakingly " sent it out by post. That way you were sure to get the letter, and you should be grateful to be told the Truth. The " painstakingness " was for the benefit of the Adi Shakti; not for the benefit of WCASY et al. There is a difference, you know. And that is also why Shri Mataji said: " You have to dedicate yourself completely to Me, not to Sahaja Yoga, but to me. Sahaja Yoga is only one of my aspects. Leaving everything you have to dedicate. Complete dedication – otherwise you cannot ascend any further. Without questioning, Without arguing, complete dedication is the only way you can achieve it. " (Cheltenham, U.K. – 31 July 1982) Mrs. Spiro: So if you know somebody who you think would like to see this email, please share it with them. With our Love to All, the UKCASY Violet: We are pleased to have received your email so we could respond to it also. After all, " good communication " is a quality of the Vishhuddhi, which is severely lacking because it has been so severely suppressed by WCASY et al... unfortunately. i did not enjoy responding to your email, but felt i needed to, in defence of the Adi Shakti and Her Letter. Those of us who are dedicated to the Adi Shakti, and not to Sahaja Yoga, have to speak out and defend the Adi Shakti in everything that is happening now. kind regards, violet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 Dear All, Shri Mataji always taught SYs that our " real " family are those who are also Sahaja Yogis (also " born of the Spirit " ). This makes sense because often the immediate family members do not understand the highly spiritual person in that family. Shri Mataji revealed to SYs in Delhi in 1993, that She did not even know how She could get through to Her family members, so they would understand also: " But when I saw the world I was shocked... more shocked than Kabira himself. I said how will I talk to anyone about it? My family members... I didn't know how to open the subject to them. It was impossible. So much was darkness of ignorance. How will they believe that there is really Divinity (that) there is Totality waiting for them? They all believed in some sort of a religion which had no connection with Reality. And it was impossible to even think of the method by which I could talk to them. " (Shri Mataji - Birthday Puja - Delhi, India - 21 March, 1993) Given that Shri Mataji said this, all rumours in regards to any of Her family members being incarnations such as " Shri Shiva " or " Shri " should be dispelled. Incarnations come to Earth in order to enlighten humanity, and dispel the darkness of ignorance. They are not subject to that 'darkness of ignorance' themselves. Shri Mataji did say, however, that Her father was a great enlightened soul, who gave much spiritual guidance to Shri Mataji. Then when Shri Mataji had finished raising Her family, She started Her Spiritual Work: " Now I'm just a woman and a house wife, but I was so sure about Sahaja Yoga that it (would) work out. I didn't have to think whether I should do it or not. I just started it. So in the family it was not so much expected... not so much agreed... to Dharma (so) I started the whole thing on my own (and) worked it out on my own because I had complete confidence in the Truth. That if I am standing on the Truth, it will help me... and it will help all those who will come (to Sahaja Yoga). It has happened. So for you it should not be difficult at all. All of you should first of all see (is) that you are not a conditioned person and you do not have ego. And then you should go ahead with it and you'll be amazed how it will work out! " (Shri Mataji - 70th Birthday - Delhi, India - 21 March, 1993) Shri Mataji has brought to us the " Universal Pure Religion " ... or the " Universal Immaculate Religion " (whichever you prefer to call it). Universal Pure Religion is a Dharma, an innate Dharma that comes through kundalini awakening, and it has nothing to do with listening to people because they may have worldly prestige, power, or money. It is the Absolute Dharma of a Sahaja Yogi. Shri Mataji describes this Dharma of a Sahaj Culture: " Today Sahaj culture is so much manifested that people, once they see you, they (will) know immediately (that) there is something special and that they (SYs) have very unique qualities that are seldom found in people. You should understand (that) all these things come to you spontaneously from " within " . But you must preserve them (the special qualities) and you should never feel shy of them. You should never feel shy about your virtues and whatever people may try to tell you... 'that you'd better do this or that' [Please Note: Shri Mataji has to be referring to people telling you to do 'this or that' inside SY Organisaton itself, because outside people don't tell you to do 'this or that' in Sahaja Yoga!!!]... if it is wrong, you should never do it. (Instead), you should say: " I don't want to do it! " Because, you are very powerful and " you " have to lead the people... and people don't have to lead you! Fashions (of all kinds) don't have to lead you... but you have to create fashions (of all kinds). You have to create a Path for them; it's not that you have to turn on (to) the path that they have made! Try to understand that your own personality is of a level where you can see so many subtle things that others don't see and you are so powerful. Therefore, you have to automatically take up their leadership. Don't get ideas from them, and don't get frightened when they try to tell you something against yourself or against Sahaja Yoga. Be sure. Be confident. That is how it's going to work out. " (Shri Mataji - 70th Birthday - Delhi, India - 21 March, 1993) Folks, if ever there are encouraging words to be your own Guru, Master, and Teacher, and not to be swayed by the unbalanced ideas of the SYSSR, which goes against yourself and Sahaja Yoga, then those Words of Comfort are it, which Shri Mataji gave on Her 70th Birthday in Delhi, India as the " real Sahaj Culture " and not some cultish Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion (SYSSR) as devised by WCASY et al. Now... in regards to Shri Mataji's Wishes not to have medications, treatments, and hospitalisation (as per Her Handwritten Letter), i can understand that it must be very difficult for Shri Mataji's immediate family members, who are physically close to Shri Mataji, to be told by Shri Mataji that She does not wish to have medications, treatments, or hospitalisation, especially when it seems that She needs it. After all, family members do care for their wife and mother. There is no doubt about that. How can everyone not love Shri Mataji, and want to do the best for Her. However, Shri Mataji's main role is as the Incarnation of the Adi Shakti. She did not have to come to Earth just to be a wife and mother. There is therefore, a very fine and 'tricky' line... i would say... between those roles, especially when Shri Mataji is ageing. Physically She may look like She is getting more frail, but that is Her Physical Body only. In Spirit, Her Spiritual Power is growing, and people are feeling Her Vibrations as stronger and stronger, as She is ageing. The Truth is... that Shri Mataji has a very different Spiritual Worldview as compared to the average everyday worldview. Here is a look at Her Spiritual World View: " I am the source of all the shaktis, of all (the) powers. So you can have all the powers from me, whatever you like. I am desireless, but whatever desires you have, will be fulfilled. Even about Me, you have to desire. Look how much I am bound by you. Unless and until you desire My good health, I will have bad health; it is to that extent. But to Me, what is bad health or good health. (Shri Mataji - Advice, Guru Puja - London, England - 29 July, 1980) Folks... it is my understanding that when Shri Mataji says we must " desire " Her good health, implicit is the fact that we are " part and parcel " of Her Subtle Body. She states that She has absorbed us into Her body and for that reason... i would say that if we become spiritually healthy, then She will also be in better health. Logically, this makes sense. Shri Mataji explains this in a way that we should have a much better understanding of Her Spiritual Worldview: " Now, the problem of this Adi Shakti is this: that I decided that I will have all of you enter into My body, absorb all of you. It is a very dangerous game, I know, but I did play. Because I’m supposed to do (it) at this stage of time that I should absorb you all in My body. So with you all, your problems have also gone into Me, all your troubles also have gone into Me, but by absorbing it... 'see'... it is like (an) ocean into which you are put and you are cleansed. But what about the ocean? (The) ocean has got still your problems and things lingering and they are very troublesome. So the best thing would be for you to cleanse yourself. Cleansing is very important through introspection. But (that) doesn’t mean thinking. (It) never means thinking, but introspection means meditation and that you all should meditate. I must tell you (that) we had a meeting of the leaders and they came out and sat in the drawing-room. As soon as they (were) assembled, I had such a severe pain in the stomach and I had such bad diarrhoea, that you (would not) believe it. Now, who has got those problems? I don't know. Who has brought these problems? I don't know. But as a Mother... 'as a Mother'... I don't mind anything... as long as you all get well and purified. Just as the Mother Earth cares for you, I also care for you... and just as the Mother Earth loves you, I also love you. Whether you are bad or good; it’s not the point. But to be kind to Me, if you could try to be really good Sahaja Yogis, not the show-offs, not business-like, not only (the) thinking type, not argumentative, not criticising others. If you just try to meditate every day, 10 to 15 minutes, I tell you (that) My health would be first class. Because I have taken your 'injections' inside, and this starts torturing My life... for nothing at all (for no good reason). See... so now it's a risk I have run, and I'm sure you are all very sensible people, and you'll understand that your Mother shouldn't suffer. This is every day a crucifixion for Me, sometimes, you know, and I don't know what to say. For example, the other day in Delhi, one gentleman who is a leader came to Me to see Me and My one foot started paining so much. I mean, I didn’t know what to tell him, that you get out now, because I just can’t hurt him, you know, but I said: " What’s the matter? Where have you been? What did you do? " And so, he realised and he went out and really it improved. Nearness also, I think has an effect, because if a man like that is, or a lady like that is full of problems and she comes very much closer to My attention, then I have to take up the cross. It’s like this. A very simple understanding should be that why are we in Sahaja Yoga? We are in Sahaja Yoga to ascend, to go higher and higher, as you sang yesterday. It was very entertaining yesterday the way you talked about your ambition to be higher and higher, really it was very joy giving, no doubt. But what are we doing about it? What we are trying (to do) about it, we should see. Seriously we must think, are we meditating? Are we all doing something to elevate others also, to give Realisation to others? So, one has to meditate and one has to also go out to spread Sahaja Yoga. Both things have to be done. Supposing now, you meditate and you don’t spread Sahaja Yoga, you will never ascend, because after all this Kundalini, you see, She is a sensible woman, She is very sensible. She thinks: " Why should I make her a saint, what is the use? " Sahaja Yoga is not individualistic. It’s not for one person to become a saint and sit somewhere. It’s not like that. It’s not mmeant for one person, for oneself, it’s not individualistic. It’s a collective happening. So, if you are not helping to the collective, Kundalini says: " Alright, you are alright as it is! " Just like our body: See in our body, if one organ says: " Alright, now I’m alright, I’m not going to work (it) out. " Or one cell says that: " I’m not going to now grow, it’s alright, why should I worry about the whole body? " (Therefore) it (the body) won't (grow). It’s a living organism! I have told you 100 times, when it is a living organism, it has to grow, it has to grow and also to absorb. To have energy, you have to meditate and you have to grow. If you don’t grow, you are finished, you are no more a Sahaja Yogi. I wouldn’t call a person a Sahaja Yogi, who has not even given one person Realisation. Cannot be a Sahaja Yogi! Sahaja Yogi has to give Realisation to others. Apart from other activities, the main activity should be how we give Realisations to others. Unless and until we really look after that side of life, we can never, never grow in Sahaja Yoga. For example, now take My position, I’m alright, I’m complete, I have no problem. But why did I work so hard and wanted so many Sahaja Yogis? Why? I don’t have to grow either, I’m overgrown already. I don’t have to do it, but why? What is the need? The need is like this, the need is of love. I have so much love that I have to channel it. If I don’t, I’ll suffocate. I can’t love Myself. So this love has to spread. For that, I have to have you people who can take this love to others and make them happy. This is a kind of a Vision I have, and in this Special Time (Blossom Time), it was promised by many people, by many saints and it is so obvious that you are all specially chosen for this kind of thing. Now, how far you understand your importance is a different point. (But) you (have to) do (spiritual work) for your emancipation. Alright, you meditate, but if you are not channels (for) the love, the Divine love... what is the use? Now, supposing I repair something very nicely. I repair this machine nicely... put it right... everything, and I don’t speak. What is the use of having this (then)? In the same way, if you work very hard... I know people who get up at four o’clock, have their bath, do meditation, sit down. In the night again, they sit down for meditation, but they never go out. They never talk to others. They never spread Sahaja Yoga. They do not give Divine love to others. So how can this great problem of this world be solved (when) it has no love... it has never known Divine love. It has to be given to them. They have to feel this Divine love... this power of (the) Adi Shakti. They have to know it. Otherwise, you have been selfish. (Shri Mataji - Adi Shakti Puja - Cabella, Italy - 25/05/97) So... folks, i think we are getting the picture of how we are in Her Subtle Body, a part and parcel of the whole. And She has taken us in there. She calls it " an injection " . Here is more on this same subject: Shri Mataji... " You have to realise your responsibility. See this Mother Earth, how She knows Her responsibility. She is just made out of nothing but soil and mud, but look at Her - how She is conscious, how She is particular, how She works it out, how She is attentive, how She is careful. While you, though you have been blessed so much by everything you are... are you thinking of giving it to others? With twelve disciples, whatever was the problem of Christianity, it’s not a good job, I must say, but still Christianity spread out. Islam was not a very good job either (but) it spread out. All those bad jobs have spread out so much. So why not the good job of Sahaja Yoga? It has to spread! It has to go to various places! Try and find out where you can go and talk about it and do something good to others and help them somehow to rise above this common existence of misery, unhappiness and destruction. The time is very short and I think if you see the Time ( " the Last Judgment and Resurrection Time " )... the rate at which we are moving is not proper. We have to be much faster. We have to go much ahead and we have to create many more Sahaja Yogis through our consistent, very intensive effort. But it’s a side issue... 'by the way'... Sahaja Yoga is 'by the way', and this is where we are failing in our responsibility. We have to learn from the Mother Earth. You might say that: " Mataji, how can we be like You? After all, You are (the) Adi Shakti! " Many people say like this: " You are (the) Adi Shakti! " So what? You see, with one finger, you can move things like that! But why should I? Why should I? What is the need? So in that reflection that you are Me... in that reflection that the Mother Earth is Me... in that beautiful creation within you... you have to become very sensitive to the need of the world. What is the need of the world? Today, if you fail, the whole thing will fail forever. Only very few will be there. So the need for you is to spread Sahaja Yoga, because this love is not only for you... is not (only) to be enjoyed by you, but is to be enjoyed by as many as possible in (the) whole world. So, today we have to decide that as the children of Adi Shakti, we have to go all out, everywhere, every corner, we have to shout, and we have to tell loudly what is the time in which we are living and what is the responsibility that you have to fulfil as Sahaja Yogis. " (Shri Mataji - Adi Shakti Puja - Cabella, Italy - 25/05/97) Folks, Shri Mataji explains here about curing people, and how She doesn't really do anything. But you have to read this, to understand how this is so: Shri Mataji... " Many people think that I have cured people so I have done any sort of a good deed or may be some obligation. But to be very frank, that is also a concept, because what do I do to a person when I cure that person? I don't do anything! The reason is, when I feel that I am yourself, you are a part and parcel of Me. It is not that I feel (that) from the brain, but actually (I feel that) in My Central Nervous System. 'Actually' I feel that you are a part and parcel of Me. When Doctor Sahab's sister was sitting next to me, I 'myself' felt the pain within Myself, because her body is part of Me and I am part of her. And I asked her, " have you got a pain in this portion ? " She said, " Yes, how do you know? " I said, I cannot tell you at this stage, but you will also know the same way. So when 'nobody is the other'... where then is the compassion? Because, suppose this finger is paining, and if I try to rub it, am I doing any compassion to this finger? (It's) because it is a part and parcel of Me! So, the difference between the reality and the concept is this: 'that with concept', we develop egos or we develop another system by which we feel obliged, or something (like that). But with reality, we just do it. It just works! You start speaking in (the) third person (such as) " it works out " (or) " it does not work out " . What is this that is " working out? " Then you realise that you are " working " for that great power of God which is His Divine Love, which is All-Pervading (and) which is doing all (the) living work, and (that) you have become part and parcel of it. (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi - Birthday Puja - Delhi, India - 28/03/83) Folks... i know this expose has been long, but to finish off, here is a Birthday Puja Synopsis from a SY, regarding what Shri Mataji said in Sydney, Australia on 21 March 1990... about the Body: Shri Mataji... " We should understand that sincerity can only come if we raise our Kundalini again and again and open our brahmarandra. Then our hearts will rise and we can jump into doubtless awareness. Shri Mataji said that we can then separate ourselves from the body. Once we have separated from the body, all the barriers of ego and superego will fall apart... All this, only by raising our kundalini and breaking the brahmarandra. The greatest achievement we have gotten is that we can break the brahmarandra and connect the Kundalini with the All-Pervading Power of God. Shri Mataji further emphasized that She always tells us to meditate and be in thoughtless awareness. Then it works out, and we don't pay attention to outside things. (Shri Mataji - Birthday Puja Synopsis - Sydney, Australia - 21 March, 1990) So folks... with all that new understanding of 'where' Shri Mataji is coming from in relation to the Body, and the fact that She has taken us into Her Body like an " injection " ... maybe the physical problems She is experiencing are not Her Own Problems, but are directly related to what She is working out in us, so perhaps giving Her medications, and taking Her to hospital where a person usually gets given medication... is really not helpful... given that She is the Adi Shakti, after all. i hope we can have a deeper understanding of the issues involved, now that we are more aware of what Shri Mataji has spoken and said about the Body. violet , " Violet " <violet.tubb wrote: > > Dear All, > > Appended is an email from Mr. David Spiro, that according to our source is allegedly written by his wife, Mrs. Spiro. i have no trouble believing that is the case, because in my experience it is unusual for a man to write with such detail, and the feel of the letter is quite feminine. In any case, as a SY, Mrs. Spiro is just as responsible for allegedly writing the letter, and i therefore choose to respond to her. > > Firstly, here is Xxxxxxx's letter to Jagbir, explaining about the letter written by an anonymous Sahaj doctor (whom we now know is Jagbir's " eternal brother " )( /message/7264) and of whose letter, the Spiros express concern: > > Dear Jagbir, > > In the summer of 2006, a letter written by an anonymous Sahaj doctor, was circulated and mailed to over 100 SYs throughout the world. In it he expressed his concern with Shri Mataji's health and the drug that was administered to her. Below is a backlash (more a cover-up) by the leaders in response to the doctor's letter. I can understand that the doctor did not want to disclose his name, otherwise he will be attacked like the rest. I was informed from some sources that some leaders encouraged the SYs to burn the doctor's letter as well as the letter handwritten by Shri Mataji, saying it is a forgery. Obviously this is not the case, as you can see in the last attachment I sent you. Regards, Xxxxxxx (/ group//message/7263) > > So folks, here then is the response that i feel i need to make. i consider Jagbir's " eternal brother " to be my spiritual brother also. Those Sahaja Yogis who through their dedication to the Adi Shakti, are due the respect, should be given the respect they deserve, instead of being villified and denounced with false allegations. Neither can we sit idly by, while WCASY et al make a " mockery " of what Shri Mataji has written, by calling it a " forgery " . This is unprecedented in the annals of spiritual history, especially when there is ample opportunity to clear up any confusion through the services of an Independent Handwriting Analyst. But i don't think WCASY et al are up to that, just as they are not up to telling the Last Judgment and Resurrection Message upfront, and just as they are not up to revealing Shri Mataji's Identity as the Adi Shakti upfront either. > > violet > > > Introducing the " Spiro Email " ... > > Dear, > > This is the previous email from Spiro written by his wife in respond to the letter written by an anonymous doctor. (http:// /message/7263) > > " Spiro Email " with my response to Mrs. Spiro (the alleged writer)... > > >> " David Spiro " <dms > >>David Spiro <dms > >><sahajnet > >>[sahajnet] anonymous letter > >>Tue, 1 Aug 2006 20:52:34 +0100 > > Dear Brothers and Sisters, > 1st August 2006 > > Mrs. Spiro: Some of the members of the UKCASY, along it seems with many others, have received copies of a letter addressed to " All the Sahaja Yogis of the World " . It says that it is sent by somebody who claims to be a " sahaja yogi " who is also a " practising medical doctor " . The apparent " signature " is nothing but an illegible scribble. There is no letterhead. There is no address and there is no name. It says " Visiting Doctor from abroad. From where? And who is he visiting? And where is he? The letter is addressed to " All the Sahaja Yogis of the World " . Can anyone explain where is " abroad " from " All of the World " . Mars maybe? > > Violet: For a start, my assumption is that it would have been an anonymous letter, for a very good reason, and this is that WCASY et al have already shown by their actions and behaviour, that they are more interested in suppressing the Truth, than in upholding the Truth, and that they will employ all sorts of tactics to " manage " the truth to suit themselves. Under those circumstances, it is sensible and logical to say the Truth, without revealing who you are. After all, it can be found out if the 'anonymous person' is actually telling the Truth, or not. All you have to do, is check the facts, see what is happening, and do that from a " firsthand basis " , as this doctor has done. > > Mrs. Spiro: Actually; this is nothing other than a very nasty (and somewhat idiotic) anonymous " poison pen " letter, which is an insult to the intelligence of everybody who has to read it. > > Violet: This person who sent the letter is a Sahaja Yogi and a practising Medical Doctor, who actually personally attended to Shri Mataji, and therefore would have known " firsthand " the facts of the situation with regard to Shri Mataji. He obviously had major concerns, and therefore sent 100 letters or so (according to Xxxxxxx's email) bringing his concerns to the attention of leaders and others, who would be in a position to address those concerns. Also, as a Sahaja Yogi Doctor who has personally attended to Shri Mataji, and who is not in the Clutches of WCASY, he therefore has no ulterior motive or vested interest that prevents him from telling it " like it is " , and therefore it would behoove us to listen to what he has to say. > > Mrs. Spiro: 1) Whatever the motive for writing this letter might be it is certainly not love, care or concern for Shri Mataji or Her health. No genuine Sahaj Yogi, never mind a doctor, who felt genuinely concerned would ever behave in such an absurd, foolish, underhand and malicious way - and nor would there be any reason for them to do so. > > Violet: It might totally surprise you that you are totally wrong in your assumptions. As i have already stated, this SY doctor has lovingly attended to Shri Mataji. i know that he has the highest motives, and i also know that he has the utmost esteem, love, care, and concern for Shri Mataji and Her health. In case you don't know by now, WCASY et al have acted and spoken in so many ways that goes against what Shri Mataji requested, pleaded, taught, and wrote. In reality, they have gone against the Dharma, and are now being exposed. If you don't like that, it does not matter. Only the Truth will stand in the end. The Truth cannot remain hidden in this Last Judgment and Resurrection Time. > > Mrs. Spiro: 2) There is a shabby photocopy attached to it, which the writer claims was written by Shri Mataji in 1998. > > Violet: i looked up the word " shabby " in my dictionary. The closest meaning that i found for the way you use the word " shabby " is: " mean in look or conduct " . The doctor sent you a photocopy of what Shri Mataji wrote in 1998, regarding concerns for Her future Wellbeing with regard to Sahaja Yogis and with regard to Her family. Since the significant document is therefore nine (9) years old, its copy will also show its age. However, the photocopy paper itself would not have tattered edges, as it would be new photocopy paper. Therefore, i can only conclude that you must be referring to Shri Mataji's Handwritten Explicit Instructions themselves... " as shabby " . > > Mrs. Spiro: Mother Herself already declared this to be a forgery when it was first going around more than a year ago. > > Violet: You know... it is really a serious allegation to call an authentic document a " forgery " . We know it is not a forgery. Jagbir has checked it out, and so have other Sahaja Yogis. So if Mother Herself allegedly declared it to be a forgery, why did She not " say so " Herself, in Public and in front of all the Sahaja Yogis? You just cannot put Words into Her Mouth and claim what She never said Herself. > > Mrs. Spiro: 3) It so happens that there are four genuine medical doctors on the UKCASY. We can assure you that the allegation that Shri Mataji is " currently being given psychotropic medication " is absolutely false. > > Violet: As i have not read the letter, i cannot reply to that. > > Mrs. Spiro: 4) Happily, all of us here, and in all the other countries She has been visiting as well, have enjoyed seeing that Mother's health is very much better and that it continues to improve. She does get tired sometimes, with all the travelling and constantly working things out for all of us, but She is over 83 years old. We know how much (although maybe we can never really know how much), She has done for everybody over all the years. Nobody has the right to criticise Her for that. It is really absurd that these poisonous allegations are doing the rounds again. > > Violet: This Sahaja Yogi doctor is looking after the best interests of Shri Mataji, as Shri Mataji requested in Her Letter, which you wrongly call a " forgery " . The point is (and lets do stick to the point)... that Shri Mataji's Wishes, as per Her Letter, are not being followed. The criticism is therefore directed at WCASY et al, and not at Shri Mataji. You are clouding the issue, by insinuating that somehow the Letter of this concerned SY doctor is criticizing Shri Mataji. That is a very clever manipulative technique to defuse and draw the attention of Sahaja Yogis away from the real issue, which WCASY et al, obviously do not want to face " head on " by just getting a Handwriting Analyst. At least give Shri Mataji the benefit of the doubt. To me, it looks exactly like Shri Mataji's Handwriting. It is immediately recognisable, and i would say, most difficult to forge also, just like the Mahamaya She is! Of course, i admit that what She has written is somewhat shocking, but not too surprising... given all that has happened in regards to the grab for Power, and Prestige of WCASY et al. > > Mrs. Spiro: At last year's Shri Adi Shakti Puja in Cabella, many U.K. Sahaj Yogis saw a letter circulated by some Italian city leaders. Although he was too clever to put his name to the letter it was clear even then that sadly it was Guido who was the leader of that movement. This new letter is just absolutely a crude rehash of that one, but we have no reason to believe that it is anything to do with Guido, and it is very possible that it might not have been written by a Sahaja Yogi at all. Somebody has got hold of what seems to have been a partial and rather out-of-date U.K. address list to use for us here. > > Violet: As i have said before, all it takes is a Handwriting Analysis, instead of all this anguish, which is absolutely devastating, and should never have happened. Shri Mataji's Letter should never have been declared a " forgery " without a Handwriting Analyst confirming that Publicly and Officially. Perhaps, this can still be solved, and some sense be brought into it all. > > Mrs. Spiro: In essence the ludicrous and vicious allegation made then (which it is horrible to have to repeat) was that Sir CP and other members of Shri Mataji's family were poisoning Her with the connivance of the doctors, and with financial motives at heart. > > Violet: If Shri Mataji says that strong medications are not good for Her, then " strong medications are not good for Her " . Maybe they do poison Her System. i don't think that means that family members are actually " poisoning Her " . i would not say it that way, as you are saying it. However, you do have to take into consideration also, that wherever there is power, prestige, and money to be had, then things can become complicated. There is often a struggle. Shri Mataji warned about that in regards to leaders. Shri Mataji does not warn about something, without a reason. In fact, to date, WCASY et al have already revealed their ambitions for power, by declaring to SYs that they are now " the Will of the Adi Shakti " . That is like declaring " Absolute Power " . Therefore, this does not bode well at all for WCASY, and therefore it is not surprising that SYs are becoming mightily distrustful of WCASY et al. For that reason, it would be in everyone's best interest and for the interests of the Kingdom of God on Earth, that Shri Mataji's Letter be checked by an expert independent Handwriting Analyst. That would settle everything then. If people are not happy with Her Letter, it does not matter. In any case, what is the problem with Her Letter really anyway? Why can't Her Wishes be adhered to? Surely, Her Wishes should be respected. > > Mrs. Spiro: Everybody knows that Shri Mataji's family have always been financially generous in the extreme. To take just one of several examples they themselves contributed more than half towards the purchase price of Shri Mataji's birthplace in Chhindwara which is being given to Sahaja Yoga. Their love and kindness all around is legendary. And it has always been an inspiration for all of us to see the genuine closeness, caring, good humour, love and understanding, and affectionate concern between Mother and all Her family. It is a wonderful example of all that is highest and most joy-giving in family life. Added to that we have all seen and felt all the love and generosity shown to all of us, all around the world, as if we really are all one big family. > > Violet: Shri Mataji's genuine closeness with Her family is not in question here, and never was, as far as i know. i also don't think anyone is questioning the generosity of Her family either. You must remember, however, that Shri Mataji is the Incarnation of the Adi Shakti, and as such, She is the Spiritual Mother of a very large family indeed. She has done Her Job in regards to Her Mission and Message. She created Sahaja Yoga, and now power brokers have taken over Sahaja Yoga and Sahaja Yogis, exactly in the way that Shri Mataji deplored. Once the ambitions are there for such worldy things, these power brokers just cannot be trusted anymore. Nobody knows that better than Shri Mataji. That is why She had to write the letter, or perhaps you do not grasp the intricacy of the situation. > > Mrs. Spiro: Sir C.P. Srivastava, who is now in his 87th year, has wholeheartedly and with absolute kindness and generosity devoted himself to helping Shri Mataji and to helping us in every way he can. We in the U.K. have had more opportunity than most to enjoy being part of all this for nearly thirty years. Moreover, Sir C.P., who was for many years one of the Secretary Generals of the United Nations, has throughout his life been held in the highest esteem the world over for his own outstanding contributions to Mankind. Many nations have bestowed upon him their highest honours, recognising him to be a great and remarkable humanitarian - a man who has given his lifetime for others, spanning the worlds of both extraordinary intellectual prowess and also of great humane concern. He is also the renowned author of several important academic works. Here in England, he was knighted KCMG by Her Majesty the Queen, and India, the place of his birth, bestowed upon him its most coveted and prestigious Shastri Prize. A gentleman of such integrity, dignity and honour, he has been not only unimaginably generous with his own resources, time, patience and understanding bestowed upon thousands of us, but he has also been so generous over all the decades in sacrificing so much private personal time with his Beloved Wife of nearly sixty years. The same can be said of Shri Mataji's two outstandingly beautiful, wise, caring, loving and compassionate daughters and their lovely families too, the sons-in-law and the adored grandchildren and great- grandchildren. They have absolutely and joyfully opened their arms and their hearts to all the Sahaja Yogis of the world, no matter who they may be or from where they might come, who call their Beloved Mummy as " Mother " . > > Violet: This is a nice Tribute to Sir C.P. and Shri Mataji's family, > and i agree they must be nice people, but they are not Devotees of the Adi Shakti. This much is clear to Her Devotees. The only member of Shri Mataji's family that was a devotee, was Her brother, BabaMama. It is unbelievable that in their worldly lust for power, prestige (and perhaps even money) that WCASY have raised Shri Mataji's family members, who are not even Her Devotees to the status and special treatment due an Incarnation of the Adi Shakti. It is unbelievable to witness, and makes me feel ill, as another SY has also expressed. Shri Mataji never ever said that any of Her family members were incarnations. Therefore, they are not. If they were, She would have said so! > > Mrs. Spiro: To make such absurd and despicable allegations against them and to carry on in this stupid and ridiculous fashion really beggars belief and is beneath contempt. Who could have imagined such a thing? What has been so remarkable is the way in which Shri Mataji, Sir C.P. and all the family have been so forgiving, and of course most of our Italian Brothers and Sisters who got a bit involved have realised that they just got caught up in a moment of madness. They have done everything they can to show how sorry they are, and out of love for them Mother and the family all went back to Italy, and this year's Guru Puja in Cabella was wonderful again. > > Violet: The reason you can even say this, is because you are not realising what is really going on, nor what is at stake. It is true that often those 'closest to the throne'... as it were... are usually kept in the dark. You are showing your ignorance of what is really happening. You may think you know what is happening externally and outwardly, but you show your ignorance of what is happening internally and in " connection " with the Divine Within. There is much much more to this than meets your physical eye. i can also inform you that, whatever your opinion may be about the SY doctor that wrote this letter, you are not understanding nor realising the actual Truth of the concerns he is raising. > > Mrs. Spiro: It has sadly become very clear over the past year that Guido had his own motives for starting all of this in the first place. It all started when Mother formed the World Council. He was always dead against it and refused to join his brothers and sisters from around the world to try to work together, although of course he had been invited to be on the Council right from the start. For some time he had also been dead against the family, and he resented the way in which Shri Mataji has always been naturally so close to them all. People had noticed that he had never had a job, and that he was living off Sahaja Yoga. Although we had all been fond of him for years, some people said that installed in Rome Ashram he had gradually taken to living like an Emperor, and he was determined that only he should remain in complete and absolute control of everybody and everything. The World Council together were supposed to look at all the accounts of the School (which was for children from all over the world), etc and see how everything was run, and his position of complete power ( and abuse of that power) would have to come to an end. > > Violet: i had only heard of good things in regards to Guido before the Formation of the World Council debacle. If that formation was when all Shri Mataji said was " Of course " ... then i have to say that i have very grave concern about that also. If Shri Mataji could really speak, She could have said something, other than " Of Course " and then made to sign documents, which i doubt in Her state She knew what She was actually signing. Maybe, that is why Guido was against the formation of the World Council, because maybe it was done underhandedly, without the Real Consent of Shri Mataji. Because, it seems that from the time that Letter of Shri Mataji appeared that is when Guido was villified. i only heard good things about Guido before that time, so i don't really believe any allegations against him since... really. i did at first, but the more time goes by, i am inclined to disbelieve the allegations against Guido, because things are just not " adding up " all over the place, especially in regards to WCASY et al, and their hunger for Power, Prestige, and i don't know anything about the Money for now. The thing is... " All of a sudden it is noticed that Guido does not have a job " . i mean... nothing like knocking down a man, when he has 'allegedly' done something completely unrelated to 'not working at an official job'. Words to the effect of " abuse of power " and " position of complete power " describe WCASY to a " T " . To me, this is just a case of " the Pot calling the Kettle Black " . > > Mrs. Spiro: The shabby photocopy letter that Mother denounced a year ago first surfaced in Australia, where somebody else (who has since similarly been asked to step down), was again in complete control, was making a lot of mistakes harming the collective, and had similar motives. So to sum up, this whole thing is an old story and the wounds and problems which were caused when it all started are healing. > > Violet: For a start, i take exception to a Photocopy of Shri Mataji's Letter being described as " shabby " . Until you prove that Shri Mataji's Handwritten Letter is a " forgery " , it is " authentic " . When you get it checked by a Handwriting Analyst, you will discover that it is " authentic " through and through. It is interesting how this authentic Letter of Shri Mataji is causing so many ripples that affect WCASY et al. Anybody, who declares the " same " (that Shri Mataji's Handwritten Letter is Authentic) seems to then... all of a sudden.... suffer from " complete control syndrome " , " making a lot of mistakes in the collective " , and " other similar motives " you like to attribute, but these were never picked up on before they also stated that Shri Mataji's Letter is authentic. This is therefore a very interesting correlation, wouldn't you say so too? > > In regards to " wounds and problems " i can assure you that this particular 'wound' that has become a thorn in the flesh of WCASY et al... cannot ever be healed until we arrive at the source of the wound, and cleanse it. The only way to do that, is to get Shri Mataji's Handwritten Letter confirmed as " ;authentic " by a Handwriting Analyst, but it seems to me that WCASY et al, don't want to do that... so they will just have to suffer with a recurring wound then, won't they? Healing only comes with the Absolute Truth. > > Mrs. Spiro: " There is no evidence to suggest and no reason to believe that the person who wrote this letter is a doctor or a genuine Sahaja Yogi at all, in fact, most probably neither. (They even spell the word " Goddess " wrong). Hopefully not too many people will have been disturbed by this feeble attempt to reopen old wounds. > > Violet: Let there be " no doubt " that the person who wrote this letter is a doctor and a genuine Sahaja Yogi, and spelling the word 'Goddess " wrong does not make him a non-SY and a non-doctor. In fact he is a very esteemed doctor in his country, and an honest genuine, straight spoken Sahaja Yogi, of a caliber that is beyond the whole WCASY et al combined. If you are telling the Truth, and only accepting the Truth, there is nothing that can disturb a Sahaja Yogi... by the way. This was also not a " feeble " attempt as you call it; it was a " courageous speaking of the Truth " of a Devotee of the Adi Shakti Herself, and who defends Her Right to have Her Wishes as expressed in Her Handwritten Letter.. upheld. > > Mrs. Spiro: Fortunately it is easy to make out that it is not genuine. > > Violet: How so? No amount of convincing yourself otherwise, will satisfy you, if it is not the Truth. Only the Absolute Truth will satisfy you. i know that you do not know it, because i know this person. Therefore, i know what you are saying about him, is not the Truth. > > Mrs. Spiro: Not everybody gets to see Sahajnet, whereas the other thing was painstakingly sent out by post. > > Violet: His letter would not even have been approved by Sahajnet. And that is why he obviously " painstakingly " sent it out by post. That way you were sure to get the letter, and you should be grateful to be told the Truth. The " painstakingness " was for the benefit of the Adi Shakti; not for the benefit of WCASY et al. There is a difference, you know. And that is also why Shri Mataji said: " You have to dedicate yourself completely to Me, not to Sahaja Yoga, but to me. Sahaja Yoga is only one of my aspects. Leaving everything you have to dedicate. Complete dedication – otherwise you cannot ascend any further. Without questioning, Without arguing, complete dedication is the only way you can achieve it. " (Cheltenham, U.K. – 31 July 1982) > > Mrs. Spiro: So if you know somebody who you think would like to see this email, please share it with them. With our Love to All, the UKCASY > > Violet: We are pleased to have received your email so we could respond to it also. After all, " good communication " is a quality of the Vishhuddhi, which is severely lacking because it has been so severely suppressed by WCASY et al... unfortunately. i did not enjoy responding to your email, but felt i needed to, in defence of the Adi Shakti and Her Letter. Those of us who are dedicated to the Adi Shakti, and not to Sahaja Yoga, have to speak out and defend the Adi Shakti in everything that is happening now. > > kind regards, > > violet > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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