Guest guest Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 Hi everyone I came across this forum on sunday. Ive been visiting the adishakti website for many times but this is the first time i knew about this forum. and i was really surprised after reading some of the posts here, esp abt the subtle system religion. when i became a SY 8 months ago, i felt that there was something incomplete. coz i thought that there was more to self realisation than just raising kundalini and meditating. the weekly classes that i went to focussed on meditation, learning the diff clearning techniques and treatments, listening to talks. i enjoyed the talks a lot. but still there was this feeling that there was more to it. slowly as i talked to more ppl and becoming more collective, i was really enjoying all of it. i came to realise that ppl have diff thinking and approaches towards SY. For me, i like to feel the connection with GOD, and to me everything is abt feeling.learning abt the chakras was interesting but i guess after a while i felt the emptyness as there was no substance to support it. I told one of the senior SY that i enjoyed the talks and he said he wud lend me some books n materials. i was surprised coz i didn't knew there were books! and some ppl were only interested in the treatments. they told me stories of bhoots n how the coconuts they placed in the house turned really hard etc etc. i was surprised at how these ppl r so focussed on these things. that was another aspect which i never realise was there. when i first came across the adishakti website, i really liked it n felt the strong vibrations. i realised that reading about and understanding the truth can give me strong vibrtions. coz at that time, my meditation wasn't going that well, n i wasn't really feeling much of the cool breeze. but somehow i think most ppl just try to clear themselves using the techniques. after coming here on sunday, there was a breakthrough in my meditation. so i'm really glad. i think my questions that i had b4 which i somehow have forgotten r pretty much answered now. is like everything is still the same, i'm still attending sessions, clearing myself but there's a shift in the way i look at things. haha i'm so longwinded and incoherent. jsm Huihua Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 Welcome Huihua to the Forum This is the best place to be. To get connected directly with mother without any artificiality. And to discuss all her knowledge "Completely". Thanks to Jagbir rondosky <rondosky wrote: Hi everyoneI came across this forum on sunday. Ive been visiting the adishakti website for many times but this is thefirst time i knew about this forum. and i was really surprised afterreading some of the posts here, esp abt the subtle system religion. when i became a SY 8 months ago, i felt that there was somethingincomplete. coz i thought that there was more to self realisation thanjust raising kundalini and meditating. the weekly classes that i wentto focussed on meditation, learning the diff clearning techniques andtreatments, listening to talks. i enjoyed the talks a lot. but stillthere was this feeling that there was more to it. slowly as i talkedto more ppl and becoming more collective, i was really enjoying all ofit. i came to realise that ppl have diff thinking and approachestowards SY. For me, i like to feel the connection with GOD, and to meeverything is abt feeling.learning abt the chakras was interesting buti guess after a while i felt the emptyness as there was no substanceto support it. I told one of the senior SY that i enjoyed the talksand he said he wud lend me some books n materials. i was surprised cozi didn't knew there were books! and some ppl were only interested inthe treatments. they told me stories of bhoots n how the coconuts theyplaced in the house turned really hard etc etc. i was surprised at howthese ppl r so focussed on these things. that was another aspect whichi never realise was there. when i first came across the adishaktiwebsite, i really liked it n felt the strong vibrations. i realisedthat reading about and understanding the truth can give me strongvibrtions. coz at that time, my meditation wasn't going that well, n iwasn't really feeling much of the cool breeze. but somehow i thinkmost ppl just try to clear themselves using the techniques. after coming here on sunday, there was a breakthrough in mymeditation. so i'm really glad. i think my questions that i had b4which i somehow have forgotten r pretty much answered now. is likeeverything is still the same, i'm still attending sessions, clearingmyself but there's a shift in the way i look at things. haha i'm so longwinded and incoherent. jsmHuihua New Mail is the ultimate force in competitive emailing. Find out more at the Mail Championships. Plus: play games and win prizes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 , " rondosky " <rondosky wrote: > > Hi everyone > I came across this forum on sunday. > Ive been visiting the adishakti website for many times but this is > the first time i knew about this forum. and i was really surprised > after reading some of the posts here, esp abt the subtle system > religion. when i became a SY 8 months ago, i felt that there was > something incomplete. coz i thought that there was more to self > realisation than just raising kundalini and meditating. the weekly > classes that i went to focussed on meditation, learning the diff > clearning techniques and treatments, listening to talks. > Welcome to the forum Huihua, It was your good fortune that you hung around despite the missing link. Actually it is much more than a missing link, the difference being that of Heaven and Earth. The Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion have been devised to give you a university education in subjects like chakras, bhoots, lemons, bandhans, candles, catches, shoebeating, string-burning, treatments, hot livers, cold footsoaks and multi-mantra memory. You are expected to spend years mastering them till your chakras squeak in celestial cleanliness. You are brainwashed to believe that everything is caused by an imbalance or malfunctioning chakra(s), from getting a sore throat to having a dominating mother-in-law to finding a empty downtown parking lot. They want you to daily work on your chakras and treatments day and night because you will forever catch i.e., you will be always spiritually sick, as most senior SYs are till today, due to the hordes of pesky invisible bhoots and UPIs who keep preying on Sahaja Yogis. > > i enjoyed the talks a lot. but still there was this feeling that > there was more to it. slowly as i talked to more ppl and becoming > more collective, i was really enjoying all of it. i came to realise > that ppl have diff thinking and approaches towards SY. > You just need to follow Shri Mataji's talks, not the speculative and at times ludicrous interpretations by Sahaja Yogis. More important than that is to remain focused on Her Advent and Divine Message which is the incarnation of the Primordial Mother delivering the Good News of the Last Judgment and Resurrection that, through Kundalini awakening, has the potential to make you eternal. She is talking about the promised evolution of humans into the spirit. Period! > > For me, i like to feel the connection with GOD, and to me > everything is abt feeling. learning abt the chakras was interesting > but i guess after a while i felt the emptyness as there was no > substance to support it. > If it was not about the Divine i would never have joined Sahaja Yoga and started meditating on Her. i am not interested in the subtle system or chakras - there a 1001 gurus, teachers and novices who have been doing so ................ some even before Sahaja Yoga. > > I told one of the senior SY that i enjoyed the talks and he said he > wud lend me some books n materials. i was surprised coz i didn't > knew there were books! and some ppl were only interested in the > treatments. they told me stories of bhoots n how the coconuts they > placed in the house turned really hard etc etc. i was surprised at > how these ppl r so focussed on these things. that was another > aspect which i never realise was there. > You will be much better off not listening to these SYs. If your follow them your attention will remain outside yourself. There will be hardly any progress for years. > > when i first came across the adishakti website, i really liked it n > felt the strong vibrations. i realised that reading about and > understanding the truth can give me strong vibrations. coz at that > time, my meditation wasn't going that well, n i wasn't really > feeling much of the cool breeze. but somehow i think most ppl just > try to clear themselves using the techniques. > i know those SYs who visit the site do feel strong vibrations as some have written to me. The truth of Shri Mataji's revelations at www.adishakti.org have made my vibrations stronger too ............ to the extend that i can now feel them 24/7. i believe that is the case due to the fact that Shri Mataji's advent and message is backed by the holy scriptures and eschataology i.e., God Almighty. You too, and anyone else for the matter, will feel them more and more as the knowledge progressively make you fearless in faith and dedication. Soon you will be no more catches/subtle system problems that commonly plague our collectives. Then you only have to meditate and, having no external treatments to perform, continue to progress within. > > after coming here on sunday, there was a breakthrough in my > meditation. so i'm really glad. i think my questions that i had b4 > which i somehow have forgotten r pretty much answered now. is like > everything is still the same, i'm still attending sessions, clearing > myself but there's a shift in the way i look at things. > haha i'm so longwinded and incoherent. > > jsm > Huihua > i assure you Huihua that you will advance faster and further than the SYs at your local collective - there is no question about this. All you now need is to comprehend the Divine within you and begin focusing your attention inwards. There is nothing to seek outside. regards, jagbir Note: Please pardon my strong language but we are having a crisis of conscience in Sahaja Yoga. If we do not make a stand the Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion is going to continue making 99.99% of new comers leave. You are the rare few who stayed despite the emptiness of the SYSSR. We intend to make many stay because of the Truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 JSM! This is the first week since i have shifted my perspective inwards. just like to share some of my thoughts. at first i was really confused. like everything i knew abt SY is not what i thought anymore. and again in my life i have to be different from the masses. i thought i had found somewhere which i belong and can settle down. i guess wat i need to learn is to be comfortable with myself in any situation. when i went to the local collective today, it was such a different experience! I really get what u guys r saying now. today we watched a video of Shri Mataji's visit to Singapore in 2002 and also the public regional program which was held at the same time. This is the first time which im feeling really absurd at seeing the people in the video. the focus on clearing is really great. btw my meditation has improved greatly in these few days. n my awareness too has improved. i realised today too that when SYs say to pray to Mother in our heart,most people will take that as praying to the physical Shri Mataji. To understand and be in this state requires that shift, and i would say, is actually quite subtle. Especially for SYogis, even if they r told about it, not everyone will get it. Huihua , " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org wrote: > > , " rondosky " <rondosky@> wrote: > > > > Hi everyone > > I came across this forum on sunday. > > Ive been visiting the adishakti website for many times but this is > the first time i knew about this forum. and i was really surprised > after reading some of the posts here, esp abt the subtle system > > religion. when i became a SY 8 months ago, i felt that there was > > something incomplete. coz i thought that there was more to self > > realisation than just raising kundalini and meditating. the weekly > > classes that i went to focussed on meditation, learning the diff > > clearning techniques and treatments, listening to talks. > > > > Welcome to the forum Huihua, > > It was your good fortune that you hung around despite the missing link. Actually it is much more than a missing link, the difference being that of Heaven and Earth. The Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion have been devised to give you a university education in subjects like chakras, bhoots, lemons, bandhans, candles, catches, shoebeating, string-burning, treatments, hot livers, cold footsoaks and multi-mantra memory. You are expected to spend years mastering them till your chakras squeak in celestial cleanliness. You are brainwashed to believe that everything is caused by an imbalance or malfunctioning chakra(s), from getting a sore throat to having a dominating mother-in-law to finding a empty downtown parking lot. They want you to daily work on your chakras and treatments day and night because you will forever catch i.e., you will be always spiritually sick, as most senior SYs are till today, due to the hordes of pesky invisible bhoots and UPIs who keep preying on Sahaja Yogis. > > > > > i enjoyed the talks a lot. but still there was this feeling that > > there was more to it. slowly as i talked to more ppl and becoming > > more collective, i was really enjoying all of it. i came to realise > > that ppl have diff thinking and approaches towards SY. > > > > You just need to follow Shri Mataji's talks, not the speculative and at times ludicrous interpretations by Sahaja Yogis. More important than that is to remain focused on Her Advent and Divine Message which is the incarnation of the Primordial Mother delivering the Good News of the Last Judgment and Resurrection that, through Kundalini awakening, has the potential to make you eternal. She is talking about the promised evolution of humans into the spirit. Period! > > > > > For me, i like to feel the connection with GOD, and to me > > everything is abt feeling. learning abt the chakras was interesting > > but i guess after a while i felt the emptyness as there was no > > substance to support it. > > > > If it was not about the Divine i would never have joined Sahaja Yoga and started meditating on Her. i am not interested in the subtle system or chakras - there a 1001 gurus, teachers and novices who have been doing so ................ some even before Sahaja Yoga. > > > > > I told one of the senior SY that i enjoyed the talks and he said he > wud lend me some books n materials. i was surprised coz i didn't > > knew there were books! and some ppl were only interested in the > > treatments. they told me stories of bhoots n how the coconuts they > > placed in the house turned really hard etc etc. i was surprised at > > how these ppl r so focussed on these things. that was another > > aspect which i never realise was there. > > > > You will be much better off not listening to these SYs. If your follow them your attention will remain outside yourself. There will be hardly any progress for years. > > > > > when i first came across the adishakti website, i really liked it n > felt the strong vibrations. i realised that reading about and > > understanding the truth can give me strong vibrations. coz at that > > time, my meditation wasn't going that well, n i wasn't really > > feeling much of the cool breeze. but somehow i think most ppl just > > try to clear themselves using the techniques. > > > > i know those SYs who visit the site do feel strong vibrations as some have written to me. The truth of Shri Mataji's revelations at www.adishakti.org have made my vibrations stronger too ............ to the extend that i can now feel them 24/7. i believe that is the case due to the fact that Shri Mataji's advent and message is backed by the holy scriptures and eschataology i.e., God Almighty. You too, and anyone else for the matter, will feel them more and more as the knowledge progressively make you fearless in faith and dedication. Soon you will be no more catches/subtle system problems that commonly plague our collectives. Then you only have to meditate and, having no external treatments to perform, continue to progress within. > > > > > after coming here on sunday, there was a breakthrough in my > > meditation. so i'm really glad. i think my questions that i had b4 > > which i somehow have forgotten r pretty much answered now. is like > > everything is still the same, i'm still attending sessions, clearing > > myself but there's a shift in the way i look at things. > > haha i'm so longwinded and incoherent. > > > > jsm > > Huihua > > > > i assure you Huihua that you will advance faster and further than the SYs at your local collective - there is no question about this. All you now need is to comprehend the Divine within you and begin focusing your attention inwards. There is nothing to seek outside. > > regards, > > > jagbir > > Note: Please pardon my strong language but we are having a crisis of > conscience in Sahaja Yoga. If we do not make a stand the Sahaja Yoga > Subtle System Religion is going to continue making 99.99% of new > comers leave. You are the rare few who stayed despite the emptiness > of the SYSSR. We intend to make many stay because of the Truth. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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